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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 13 14:00:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:01 |
| macsz | \o | 14:01 |
| edleafe | Good UGT morning! Who's here? | 14:01 |
| cdent | orz | 14:01 |
| jroll | morning :) | 14:01 |
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| edleafe | With the recent DST shift, I now have time to caffeinate before these meetings :) | 14:02 |
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| * cdent holds on to his hat | 14:02 | |
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| edleafe | cdent: oh, don't worry. It just means I may not be as dimwitted as usual | 14:02 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 14:03 |
| cdent | does that mean I should be holding on to my sides? | 14:03 |
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| edleafe | Hold on to whatever you like | 14:03 |
| bauzas | FWIW, I'm still having 25 mins for you folks before rushing out | 14:04 |
| bauzas | at least, till April | 14:04 |
| bauzas | and then DST for me | 14:04 |
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| alex_xu | o/ | 14:04 |
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| edleafe | Let's get started | 14:05 |
| edleafe | #topic Specs & Reviews | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs & Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:05 | |
| jaypipes | traits ahoy | 14:05 |
| edleafe | first up: Traits series, starting with: | 14:05 |
| edleafe | #link | 14:06 |
| edleafe | doh! | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | merged. | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | :) | 14:06 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376199/ | 14:06 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/resource-provider-traits | 14:06 |
| alex_xu | the patch series :) | 14:06 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: this looks like it's getting very close | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | yup, ^^ it highest priority. | 14:07 |
| alex_xu | edleafe: thanks | 14:07 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: Any issues we need to focus on or discuss? | 14:07 |
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| jaypipes | alex_xu: I'm reviewing that series this morning. | 14:07 |
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| alex_xu | 1. I removed the cache | 14:07 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe, alex_xu: I will have a couple patches up today for adding networking traits to os-traits. | 14:08 |
| alex_xu | 2. is there anyway I can separate one microversion into two separated patches? | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu: not if both patches add/change something in the API. | 14:08 |
| alex_xu | jaypipes: cool | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu: but you can split out patches and isolate only the API-affecting stuff into a single patch. | 14:08 |
| alex_xu | jaypipes: ok | 14:08 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: +1 to cache removal | 14:08 |
| alex_xu | ok, let me merge the last two API patches | 14:09 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: those changes won't conflict with anything in alex_xu's series, will they? | 14:09 |
| edleafe | Oh, well, guess Jay got pulled in another direction... :) | 14:11 |
| edleafe | Moving on... | 14:11 |
| edleafe | Ironic inventory is reeeeeally close: | 14:11 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441544/ | 14:11 |
| edleafe | Let's all get our eyes on that | 14:11 |
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| edleafe | Nested RPs needs some attention: | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415920/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | But those are waiting for the traits stuff | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Finally: | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Improve placement API error messages: | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418393/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Comments on any of these? | 14:13 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: you mean the os-traits ones? | 14:13 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: yes | 14:13 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: sorry, no, they won't affect alex's patches. | 14:13 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: cool, I didn't imagine they would | 14:13 |
| _gryf | edleafe, there was some comments from stephen | 14:13 |
| _gryf | which was addressed | 14:14 |
| edleafe | _gryf: on which? | 14:14 |
| _gryf | edleafe, imporve api error mesgs | 14:14 |
| edleafe | I have in my queue to re-review with those changes | 14:15 |
| _gryf | cool, hanks | 14:15 |
| _gryf | *thanks | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Anything else for Specs and Reviews? | 14:15 |
| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:15 |
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| edleafe | No new bugs that I'm aware of | 14:16 |
| * edleafe hasn't searched that deeply, though | 14:16 | |
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| cdent | I looked late last week, and agree | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Moving on... | 14:17 |
| edleafe | #topic Open discussion | 14:17 |
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| cdent | (I try to regularly look for things that need a placement or scheduler tag) | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Functional testing: | 14:17 |
| edleafe | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-placement-functional | 14:17 |
| edleafe | We have some general approaches there | 14:17 |
| edleafe | I have some first baby steps outlined at the bottom | 14:17 |
| edleafe | I'd like to start working on this this week | 14:18 |
| edleafe | Unless anyone has objections | 14:18 |
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| bauzas | not sure I get the problem | 14:18 |
| bauzas | edleafe: ^ | 14:18 |
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| jroll | edleafe: those baby steps lgtm | 14:19 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you know that we have a PlacementFixture, right? | 14:19 |
| edleafe | bauzas: we lack functional tests, and that prevents us from making changes with any confidence | 14:19 |
| * jroll reminds folks that he'll be writing specs for some of the flavor changes and ironic transition this week | 14:19 | |
| edleafe | bauzas: yes | 14:19 |
| cdent | jroll++ | 14:20 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I'd like to use it more | 14:20 |
| bauzas | edleafe: okay, you confused me with "jay's fixtures" then | 14:20 |
| bauzas | and yeah, I agree with you, we're missing functional coverage | 14:21 |
| edleafe | bauzas: the idea was to have a single base instead of several | 14:21 |
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| edleafe | So I'll probably start on this today, and have a first attempt soon. I'll ping people on -nova to review | 14:22 |
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| edleafe | Any other comments/concerns about functional testing changes? | 14:23 |
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| edleafe | whoops, forgot to | 14:24 |
| edleafe | #link Functional testing: | 14:24 |
| edleafe | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-placement-functional | 14:24 |
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| edleafe | #undo | 14:24 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-placement-functional | 14:24 |
| edleafe | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-placement-functional | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: cool with me. ++ | 14:25 |
| edleafe | OK, moving on. | 14:25 |
| edleafe | Extracting placement from Nova | 14:25 |
| edleafe | Dev ML discussion starting with: | 14:25 |
| edleafe | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113812.html | 14:25 |
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| edleafe | cdent: wanna run with this one? | 14:25 |
| cdent | a) the email pretty much says it: I extracted a working placement and found some few small issues, some of which we can deal with independently of any actual plan to do extraction | 14:26 |
| cdent | b) it wasn't my intent to such any timeline or solid plan, just to change guessing to less guessing, because all the guessing was causing some FUD | 14:27 |
| jroll | ++ | 14:27 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: on functional testing (sorry, late), please get with sfinucan, since he's also been working on that for libvirt. | 14:27 |
| cdent | c) that said, I continue to think that sooner is better than later: we have a self-contained thing here that is _easy_ to extract (unlike the rest of nova) and we can help both nova and placement by having disconnected review processes | 14:28 |
| cdent | EOS | 14:28 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: will do | 14:28 |
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| bauzas | damn kids | 14:29 |
| edleafe | cdent: separating it sooner will mean less time for rust to build that will make them harder to separate later | 14:29 |
| jaypipes | cdent: I agree with the sentiment, as mentioned on the ML. I think getting the discussion started *now* about a separation in Queens is A Good Thing. dansmith has some concerns on whether to include claims in the list of things to do *before* split-out, but is willing to discuss further about an appropriate delimiting point. | 14:29 |
| edleafe | rust == linkages | 14:29 |
| edleafe | OK, how about we continue the discussion on the ML, and talk further at our next meeting? | 14:30 |
| cdent | +1 | 14:30 |
| edleafe | It's much too early in the thought process to be able to make any decisions, anyway | 14:31 |
| cdent | yes | 14:31 |
| _gryf | btw, when is the spec freeze? | 14:31 |
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| edleafe | But I do think knowing the issues can help us clean up those bits earlier, so thanks cdent | 14:31 |
| * cdent bows | 14:31 | |
| edleafe | _gryf: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 14:32 |
| _gryf | thx | 14:32 |
| edleafe | Anything else for Opens? | 14:32 |
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| edleafe | OK, thanks everyone! | 14:34 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 13 14:34:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-03-13-14.00.html | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-03-13-14.00.txt | 14:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-03-13-14.00.log.html | 14:34 |
| jroll | thanks edleafe | 14:34 |
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| cdent | thanks edleafe | 14:35 |
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| _gryf | thanks | 14:36 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 13 15:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| manjeets | hi | 15:01 |
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| electrocucaracha | howdy | 15:02 |
| dasanind | hi | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Upgrades-Subteam Agenda | 15:03 |
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| ihrachys | let's review action items from the last meeting | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | that one will be embarrassing for me\ | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | "ihrachys to follow up with manjeets on next steps for linuxbridge multinode grenade" | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | did I? no | 15:04 |
| manjeets | we just concluded something messed up with data plane | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | manjeets: yeah, I think external connectivity issue using floating IP? | 15:05 |
| manjeets | yes | 15:05 |
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| manjeets | it is failing smoke tests some time where it tests vm connectivity | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | manjeets: have you looked at the server/agent logs to see if anything there? | 15:05 |
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| manjeets | i looked server logs couldn't find anything i'll look at agent logs today | 15:06 |
| ihrachys | it may help to try to trace messaging between them | 15:06 |
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| ihrachys | to see if agent actually processed FIP addition and such | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | another thing to check would be the VM console log (I assume tempest tests already dump that in case of failure) | 15:07 |
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| ihrachys | there you may e.g. see DHCP lease not served | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | or metadata access broken | 15:07 |
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| ihrachys | ok let's follow up on that and see if we can make progress till next week | 15:08 |
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| ihrachys | next was "everyone to review online data migration neutron-db-manage command: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432494/" | 15:08 |
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| ihrachys | I see it didn't happen so we are all guilty | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | let's repeat the action then | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | #action everyone to review online data migration neutron-db-manage command: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432494/ | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | next was "ihrachys to spec a mechanism to tackle differences in the list of extensions exposed by multiple mixed server nodes" | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | didn't happen, will try to get to it this week :) | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to spec a mechanism to tackle differences in the list of extensions exposed by multiple mixed server nodes | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | next was "ihrachys to follow up on mixed server version gating" | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | you know the pattern? | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | didn't happen | 15:10 |
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| ihrachys | it's clear I am a slug | 15:10 |
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| * electrocucaracha sometimes that happen | 15:11 | |
| ihrachys | anyone wants to take over that one from me? it's some talking to do with nova/infra/dolph | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | that may raise the chance other stuff will happen | 15:11 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: maybe I can do it | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: yeah you are in the same office | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: so we just need to understand what's the progress to gate on mixed api versions for nova, and where we can plug ourselves into that for neutron | 15:12 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: got it, I can check with dolph | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | #action electrocucaracha to explore status of mixed server version gating in nova/infra | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | thanks a lot! | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | next one was "manjeets to remove lock_for_update for quotas db code" | 15:13 |
| manjeets | ihrachys, patch is up | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | since manjeets is NOT a slug, he actually posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442181/ | 15:13 |
| manjeets | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442181/ | 15:14 |
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| manjeets | somehow i was for not being doing enough lb job | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | gotta reach out to kevinbenton to make his judgement | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | from my side it's good to go | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | thanks manjeets for pulling that quick! | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | ok no more actions to embarrass myself | 15:15 |
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| ihrachys | actually action items covered most topics in the agenda, so let's go straight to OVO | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | #topic Object implementation | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Object implementation (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:16 | |
| ihrachys | some good news. we landed devref page, finally: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336518/ | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | also pager docstring: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441226 | 15:16 |
| manjeets | \o/ | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | we also landed lock_for_update removal for type driver allocations: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438144/ | 15:17 |
| electrocucaracha | yeah thanks dasm for taking all the comments | 15:17 |
| dasm | \o/ | 15:17 |
| ihrachys | I believe with quota lockless in, the code base should be free of lock_for_update | 15:17 |
| ihrachys | yeah dasm was really helpful pushing the last mile of the patch | 15:17 |
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| ihrachys | also thanks to korzen for moving it along for so long | 15:18 |
| electrocucaracha | +1 | 15:18 |
| manjeets | yes no blocker then except support of like i believe | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | yeah, the LIKE patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419152/ | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | it has some review comments to follow up on | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | tonytan4ever: will you have time in next days to pull that? | 15:18 |
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| tonytan4ever | @ihrachys: yes | 15:20 |
| tonytan4ever | I am working on it now actually | 15:20 |
| ihrachys | tonytan4ever: oh cool, will wait for next PS | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | ok next in the list from the agenda is tag OVO switch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356825/ | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | actually it seems like ready to go, so +W! | 15:21 |
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| ihrachys | next is quotas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338625/ manjeets is it already rebased on lockless? or we wait for it? | 15:22 |
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| manjeets | i'll rebase it today | 15:23 |
| dasanind | ihrachys: need reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360908/. It's ready to go. | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | dasanind: oh I see you removed the synthetic field | 15:24 |
| ihrachys | will do, haven't noticed it before | 15:24 |
| dasanind | ihrachys: thank you | 15:24 |
| sshank | ihrachys, Regarding the portbinding level integration, we found out the cause. It is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382037/42/neutron/plugins/ml2/plugin.py@1620 me and johndperkins have added comments to point where it fails. Error is when a model query is done right after the level OVO transaction. Can you please have a look into that? | 15:25 |
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| ihrachys | sshank: hm ok. I think kevinbenton also looked at something relevant here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441231/ | 15:27 |
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| ihrachys | ok let's move to the next section which is | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | #topic Other patches on review | 15:28 |
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| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22UpgradeImpact%22+project:openstack/neutron | 15:28 |
| sshank | ihrachys, Thanks for the link. | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | nothing huge in the list, just note ns-metadata-proxy is now switched to haproxy | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | for what I understand it doesn't really affect users on upgrade | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | it will merely replace implementation of the proxy on agent restart | 15:29 |
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| ihrachys | which may introduce a moment of metadata service not replying | 15:30 |
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| ihrachys | but metadata consumers should already be resilient against short downs | 15:30 |
| electrocucaracha | I found useful this blog for understanding neutron metadata services https://vietstack.wordpress.com/2014/09/27/introduction-of-metadata-service-in-openstack/ | 15:31 |
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| ihrachys | with the patch in, some of those bits will become irrelevant :) | 15:31 |
| manjeets | electrocucaracha, ++ | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | ok other patches seem old and don't need discussion | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | #topic Open discussion | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | I think we talked about review prioritization before | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | to mitigate some of the problems with my reviews, I created some calendar 'events' to review OVO patches specifically | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | hopefully it will give me some motivation to walk thru them more often | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | it would also help if folks raise patches they believe are ready to review in #openstack-neutron | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | once in a while | 15:34 |
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| ihrachys | I think we started making some more progress lately, so that's good to see | 15:34 |
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| ihrachys | if you have more ideas how to keep reviewers more focused, I am all ears | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | apart from that, I don't have anything to raise here, so unless you have something... | 15:35 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: quick question about that calendar | 15:35 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: is it public? | 15:35 |
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| ihrachys | nooo | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | it's my private calendar;) | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | I am just saying, that's what I try to do to fix my flow | 15:35 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: hehehe okas, that makes sense | 15:35 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: as long as we have some progress on that I'm ok | 15:36 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: at least there is an official document which explains how to contribute and review OVO | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | indeed | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | I wonder if it's consumable by anyone outside the group | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | there may be a lot of assumed knowledge there | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | but we will figure it out once people start reading it | 15:38 |
| electrocucaracha | well, given the amount of review over that document I should expect that most of them were aware | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | oh you think so! | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | :) | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | ok seems like we have plenty of time to spend for other means, like following up on things we said we will ;) | 15:39 |
| electrocucaracha | yep :) | 15:39 |
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| ihrachys | thanks everyone for joining, take those 20 mins as a gift from yours truly | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | ciao | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 13 15:39:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-03-13-15.01.html | 15:39 |
| electrocucaracha | thanks bye | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-03-13-15.01.txt | 15:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-03-13-15.01.log.html | 15:39 |
| sshank | Thank you. | 15:39 |
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| manjeets | thanks | 15:40 |
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| dasanind | thanks | 15:42 |
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| dave-mccowan | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 13 20:00:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic roll call | 20:00 |
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| kfarr | \o/ | 20:02 |
| dave-mccowan | hi kfarr | 20:02 |
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| alee | o/ and here I was thinking I missed it | 20:02 |
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| dave-mccowan | hi alee. we're an hour later now due to DST | 20:03 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, yeah - seems the rest of the world doesn't change when we do | 20:03 |
| alee | mighty inconvenient, that .. | 20:03 |
| alee | :/ | 20:04 |
| dave-mccowan | yep. i figure congress owes me a new VCR due to that change. except, i don't use VCR anymore. :-) | 20:05 |
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| dave-mccowan | small group.... we'll blame it on congress. ;-) | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | here's the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic backlog review | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "backlog review (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:06 | |
| dave-mccowan | we're doing a great job whittling down the open reviews for patches | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | the bug count is still pretty high. down from 72, but still half of the remaining 49 are in "new" state. | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | just a reminder to help out when you can. when more folks are round i'll set up a time to get together to triage together again. | 20:07 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic Pike status | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike status (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:07 | |
| dave-mccowan | 4 weeks until Milestone 1. | 20:07 |
| dave-mccowan | https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/pike-1 | 20:08 |
| kfarr | I sent an email to the ML about oslo.keymanager | 20:08 |
| kfarr | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113863.html | 20:08 |
| kfarr | already has some replies | 20:08 |
| dave-mccowan | kfarr thanks! i missed that. | 20:09 |
| kfarr | it was just an hour ago or so | 20:09 |
| kfarr | so no worries :) | 20:09 |
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| dave-mccowan | ah... that's why. cool. a good discussion started already. | 20:10 |
| dave-mccowan | alee are you going to do the httpd and devstack changes for pike-1? | 20:11 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, I'm going to try -- on some dogtag proiorities right now | 20:11 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, if not, definitely by pkie-2 | 20:12 |
| dave-mccowan | alee sounds good. i'll try to keep an appropriate level of nagging in the meantime. :-) | 20:12 |
| alee | sure :) | 20:12 |
| dave-mccowan | a new contributor, namnh, want to help us with getting our "supported:upgrades" tag. he asked us to look at: | 20:12 |
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| dave-mccowan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/1670946 | 20:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1670946 in Barbican "[RFE] Support rolling upgrade in Barbican" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Nam (namnh) | 20:13 |
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| dave-mccowan | hi namnh | 20:14 |
| dave-mccowan | we just got to your agenda item on rolling upgrade support. did you have anything to mention in particular? | 20:14 |
| namnh | hi dave-mccowan, I am so sorry for late | 20:14 |
| namnh | yes, | 20:15 |
| dave-mccowan | namnh thanks for waking up early (or staying up late) to talk with us | 20:15 |
| namnh | First, I think we should add worker to devstack plugin. this path is to do this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444190/ | 20:15 |
| namnh | :) thanks for your understanding | 20:16 |
| dave-mccowan | that patch looks good to me. what do you think alee? | 20:16 |
| kfarr | I wish I understood better about what barbican-worker is doing | 20:16 |
| kfarr | does just adding it like that automatically make all the requests pass through the worker? | 20:17 |
| kfarr | I wish there were a way to check that it is doing what we think it is doing | 20:17 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, patch looks ok to me .. | 20:17 |
| alee | not sure what this has to do with rolling upgrades .. | 20:18 |
| namnh | kfarr: I am new member in barbican, I will try to make clear this service | 20:19 |
| dave-mccowan | my guess is that workers runs, but is not used unless settings are made in the [queue] section | 20:19 |
| dave-mccowan | alee right. devstack and workers are separate from ugrades. | 20:19 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, ok - just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some context | 20:20 |
| namnh | alee: I think yes, becasue I am writting automation test and it's related to all service in barbican | 20:20 |
| kfarr | dave-mccowan, do you know what the difference is between barbican-retry and barbican-worker? | 20:20 |
| alee | namnh, fairt enough. Its a good idea for something to test the worker code | 20:20 |
| namnh | alee, dave-mccowan, kfarr: I have a plan to support upgrade | 20:21 |
| namnh | Testing upgrade from newton to ocata and ocata to master to verify that there're not any problems | 20:21 |
| namnh | developing to support automation test with grenade, then making a document for operators | 20:21 |
| namnh | how do you think about this? | 20:22 |
| kfarr | yes, that sounds like a good plan~ | 20:22 |
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| dave-mccowan | namnh thanks, that sounds great. | 20:23 |
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| dave-mccowan | anything else on this topic? | 20:24 |
| namnh | dave-mccowan, alee, kfarr: I am preparing souce code link this link: https://github.com/NguyenHoaiNam/barbican/tree/devstack_db/devstack/upgrade | 20:24 |
| namnh | is that right way what you are thinking? | 20:25 |
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| dave-mccowan | namnh i see you're using grenade. that's good. what example did you follow? i assume you plan to merge this to the barbican repository... | 20:27 |
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| kfarr | namnh maybe we could make an experimental gate first, modeled off another project (maybe ironic since they also have a devstack plugin?) | 20:30 |
| kfarr | then if you committed your changes to barbican, they could be tested in the experimental grenade gate? | 20:30 |
| namnh | dave-mccowan: I think barbican is missing a "upgrade" folder that it can support grenade running automation test. I am just preparing, I will push my patch after testing | 20:30 |
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| dave-mccowan | kfarr do you want to add an empty experimental gate job to help get that started? | 20:32 |
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| kfarr | dave-mccowan, I could take a look, sure | 20:32 |
| namnh | as you can see: https://github.com/NguyenHoaiNam/barbican/blob/devstack_db/devstack/upgrade/shutdown.sh#L31. it has worker, that reason why I would like ask your dicision about this service | 20:32 |
| namnh | whether it has in devstack or not. | 20:33 |
| dave-mccowan | namnh sounds good. i think we reached agreement to merge your devstack change. thanks for finding and fixing this. | 20:33 |
| namnh | dave-mccowan: for this patch set: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444190/ | 20:34 |
| dave-mccowan | namnh yes, i've given it +2 now. maybe alee or kfarr can finish their review soon and merge. | 20:35 |
| kfarr | I'm still unsure! I don't have any hard objections | 20:36 |
| kfarr | I just don't know enough | 20:36 |
| kfarr | like, what's the difference between barbican-retry and barbican-worker | 20:36 |
| kfarr | and do we need both in devstack | 20:36 |
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| namnh | kfarr: I understand, maybe I should research worker more detail :) | 20:38 |
| dave-mccowan | on the old wiki, there is a description of workers. under [queue] in the config, you specify enable=True and the number of workers and that gives parallel processing. recommendation is # of workers == the # of CPUs. in the default config with devstack, it doesn't matter if a worker is started or not... it's not used, unless [queue] is enabled. | 20:38 |
| alee | kfarr, I'm not answering because I'ma little fuzzy myself. I think we need to look to see whats realyy needed | 20:39 |
| dave-mccowan | let's pick redrobot's or woodster's brain on this | 20:39 |
| dave-mccowan | thanks namnh we'll work more on this and let you know through comments on the review | 20:40 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, yes -because I think we need barbican-worker and not retry or visa versa | 20:40 |
| kfarr | Another question, if we change the installation to install the worker, then should we change the default config to have one worker enabled? | 20:41 |
| kfarr | probably for woodster or redrobot ^^ | 20:42 |
| alee | kfarr, dave-mccowan lets take an actuaon item to try to understand what we need here - in consultation with redrobot and woodster | 20:42 |
| dave-mccowan | #action check with redrobot or woodster about retry and worker processes and devstack defaults | 20:42 |
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| dave-mccowan | moving on... | 20:43 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic tempest testing | 20:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tempest testing (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:43 | |
| dave-mccowan | i notice that octavia added barbican/octavia scenario testing that now runs in our gate | 20:43 |
| dave-mccowan | anything else new here kfarr? | 20:44 |
| kfarr | not too much | 20:45 |
| kfarr | volume encryption scenario tests: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439182/ | 20:45 |
| kfarr | that's it! | 20:46 |
| dave-mccowan | thanks! | 20:46 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic summit | 20:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:46 | |
| dave-mccowan | Barbicaneers got a lot of session approved! | 20:46 |
| alee | including the superpopular workshop! | 20:47 |
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| alee | on the workshop, we should be able to get Thales involved again in providing us with an HSM | 20:48 |
| dave-mccowan | We also will need volunteers to staff an "onboarding room" for new contributors to drop by. It will be part of the Forum, scheduled for 90 minutes. they say we don't need to prepare something, but maybe having something hands-on would be good to recruit contributors. | 20:48 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, I should probably be able to volumteer for part of that | 20:49 |
| dave-mccowan | Also for the Forum (i guess Design-session-lite), there are two etherpads to collect topics | 20:49 |
| dave-mccowan | To propose cross project topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-TC-brainstorming | 20:50 |
| dave-mccowan | To propose Barbican topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Barbican-brainstorming | 20:50 |
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| dave-mccowan | We can propose a continuation of the Key Manager adoption topic that we started at PTG | 20:51 |
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| dave-mccowan | The | 20:51 |
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| dave-mccowan | The forum should have operators and developers present. | 20:52 |
| dave-mccowan | any other comments on Summit? | 20:52 |
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| dave-mccowan | #topic any other business | 20:53 |
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| dave-mccowan | thanks for joining namnh. usually we have a few more people joining. | 20:54 |
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| namnh | dave-mccowan: I am glad to discuss with all of you in a weekly meeting :) | 20:56 |
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| dave-mccowan | thanks everyone | 20:56 |
| dave-mccowan | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 13 20:56:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-03-13-20.00.html | 20:57 |
| namnh | thanks for your message about my topic | 20:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-03-13-20.00.txt | 20:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-03-13-20.00.log.html | 20:57 |
| kfarr | thanks dave-mccowan! | 20:57 |
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| namnh | thanks kfarr alee | 20:57 |
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| jeblair | who is around for a zuul meeting? | 22:01 |
| Shrews | ahoy | 22:01 |
| pabelanger | present | 22:01 |
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| SpamapS | o/ | 22:01 |
| jhesketh | Howdy | 22:02 |
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| rattboi | o/ | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting zuul | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 13 22:02:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-03-06-22.03.html | 22:03 |
| jeblair | #topic Actions from last meeting | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:03 | |
| jeblair | Shrews restart nodepoolv3 launcher to pick up quota fix | 22:03 |
| jeblair | that happened | 22:03 |
| Shrews | it so happened | 22:03 |
| jeblair | and then pabelanger made it happen again :) | 22:03 |
| jeblair | clarkb review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435933/ | 22:03 |
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| rbergeron | hi! :) | 22:04 |
| jeblair | that didn't happen | 22:04 |
| jeblair | #action clarkb review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435933/ | 22:04 |
| jeblair | jeblair consider removing layoutvalidator and tests | 22:04 |
| jeblair | jeblair remove swift and layoutvalidator as appropriate | 22:04 |
| jeblair | those things happened | 22:04 |
| jeblair | jeblair triage remaining skipped tests | 22:05 |
| jeblair | that happened as well | 22:05 |
| jeblair | we should link the etherpad for that | 22:05 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: do you still have that handy? | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | eh? | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | sorry I got twisted around for a second | 22:05 |
| jeblair | #link remaining skipped tests in zuul https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3skips | 22:06 |
| jeblair | there it is | 22:06 |
| SpamapS | thanks | 22:06 |
| SpamapS | sorry.. I lost it in my pile of slacks and ircs and emails | 22:06 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Nodepool | 22:06 |
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| jeblair | Shrews: how goes it? | 22:07 |
| Shrews | oh, not much interesting to report... | 22:07 |
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| Shrews | except that ZUULv3 NODEPOOL IS DONE | 22:07 |
| Shrews | !!!!!!1111!!1eleven!! | 22:07 |
| openstack | Shrews: Error: "!!!!!1111!!1eleven!!" is not a valid command. | 22:07 |
| pabelanger | oh ya | 22:08 |
| jeblair | nice :) | 22:08 |
| fungi | you know, nothing _interesting_ though ;) | 22:08 |
| jhesketh | woo :-) | 22:08 |
| rbergeron | WOO | 22:08 |
| fungi | good going! | 22:08 |
| Shrews | there will be bugs to squash, but all outstanding things and requests are done | 22:08 |
| SpamapS | whuuutttt | 22:08 |
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| jlk | o/ | 22:08 |
| SpamapS | Shrews be like http://imgur.com/xgz9nkR | 22:09 |
| Shrews | i will hereafter be doing only LHF because i need some easy stuff for a while | 22:09 |
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| Shrews | :) | 22:09 |
| jeblair | Shrews: there is certainly some of that in zuul :) | 22:10 |
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| jeblair | we should probably implement https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000895 before we get to actual release time | 22:10 |
| * rbergeron actually fully pays attention now that phone is done, whew | 22:10 | |
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| jeblair | but that's not so much of a change to functionality | 22:10 |
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| jeblair | other than that, i'm not seeing a whole bunch of nodepool on the storyboard | 22:11 |
| SpamapS | Shrews: can I suggest documentation updates? | 22:11 |
| SpamapS | Like, not to bring the party down | 22:11 |
| SpamapS | but... | 22:11 |
| SpamapS | nice when things work like the docs say they work. :) | 22:11 |
| jeblair | (it might be good to stack doc updates behind the config syntax change) | 22:12 |
| Shrews | SpamapS: to which docs? i think we updated as we went | 22:12 |
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| jeblair | i'm sure the whole nodepool docs need a once over anyway | 22:12 |
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| SpamapS | Right | 22:13 |
| * rbergeron notes she is here for giving the halp with the docs and finding all the corners of darkness and light | 22:13 | |
| jeblair | the narrative structure is mostly geared toward openstack-infra 3 years ago | 22:13 |
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| rbergeron | ...if some part of that is ready to be poked at or scoured for loose ends, yay? :) | 22:13 |
| SpamapS | I'm sure it's generally correct but right after completed milestones are a good quiet period to land doc cleanups. | 22:13 |
| pabelanger | Shrews: did you by chance look at nl01.o.o today? We seem to be still paused on ready nodes. Grouping this under potential bugs to squash | 22:13 |
| rbergeron | jeblair: right | 22:14 |
| Shrews | rbergeron and I can give the docs a once over | 22:14 |
| rbergeron | shrews: that would be awesome :) | 22:14 |
| pabelanger | should we also merge master to feature/zuulv3? | 22:14 |
| SpamapS | That would certainly make merging feature/zuulv3 to master later much simpler. :) | 22:15 |
| jeblair | yeah, we'll need to keep merging into v3 for a while yet | 22:15 |
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| Shrews | pabelanger: i looked quickly, but the exceptions looked to have stopped. i thought you and jeblair were looking deeper | 22:15 |
| jeblair | also, try not to add too many things to master :) | 22:15 |
| pabelanger | Shrews: okay, lets push it until tomorrow | 22:15 |
| rbergeron | shrews: iwill beep you to figure out a time to do this in the next few days, if that's kosher? (docs pokin') | 22:15 |
| jeblair | mordred: are you around to talk about the shim? | 22:16 |
| Shrews | rbergeron: beep away | 22:16 |
| fungi | i want to say mmmpork/auggy did a pass through a bunch of the nodepool docs more recently than three years ago, but this is a great opportunity to go through them again | 22:16 |
| jhesketh | I can look at merging master -> v3 | 22:17 |
| rbergeron | shrews: i am settling up my "going to disneyland plans" for one day this week so as soon as i know that later today i'll know what days i'm not at disneyland and when we can theoretically go ... doc-toring | 22:17 |
| jeblair | also, we need to drop ready scripts | 22:18 |
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| pabelanger | indeed, I have playbooks already setup for that | 22:18 |
| Shrews | rbergeron: okie dokie | 22:19 |
| jeblair | is anyone around to talk about devstack-gote roles refactoring? | 22:19 |
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| rbergeron | mmm. goats | 22:19 |
| jeblair | i named it. i'm allowed to call it that. | 22:19 |
| SpamapS | I wonder if we could get a goat to eat a devstack | 22:19 |
| rbergeron | oh wait, is that the actual word and not a typo? | 22:19 |
| jeblair | heh, no it's devstack-gate | 22:19 |
| jeblair | is a dvorak typo | 22:20 |
| * clarkb returns from dentist | 22:20 | |
| fungi | dvorak-gate | 22:20 |
| jeblair | #topc Status updates: Devstack-gate roles refactoring | 22:20 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Devstack-gate roles refactoring | 22:20 |
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| rbergeron | http://www.roadtrafficsigns.com/close-the-gate-behind-you-goat-symbol-sign/sku-k2-1508?engine=googlebase&keyword=&skuid=K2-1508-AL-12x18&gclid=CMu7iPbB1NICFZKGfgodpOkDKA | 22:20 |
| rbergeron | there you go. okay, i will stop being silly now :) | 22:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: apparently it would be helpful for you to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435933/ when you have a moment | 22:21 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ok will add to todo list | 22:21 |
| jeblair | i think that's probably the only thing for this topic | 22:21 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Zuul test enablement | 22:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates: Zuul test enablement (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:22 | |
| SpamapS | I got 0 done the last week. Been focused on security spec and deploying v3 in BonnyCI | 22:22 |
| jeblair | as mentioned earlier, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3skips has the list of remaining tests that need enabling, along with an annotation as to complexity | 22:22 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: is the "grab a test in storyboard" process still in effect, or do we need to adopt a different procedure? | 22:23 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: It's still in effect, but I like your etherpad as the selection helper because most of the ones left are a bit scary for noobs | 22:23 |
| jeblair | cool | 22:24 |
| SpamapS | 28 left to re-enable | 22:24 |
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| SpamapS | with 4 of those added to test_connection with the merge from master | 22:24 |
| jeblair | and yeah, as mentioned, i pulled a few out for being irrelevant, so that brought the number down a bit | 22:25 |
| jeblair | anything else on this? | 22:25 |
| SpamapS | I'm hoping we'll get v3 up and then can get our upstream dev contributions cranking again. | 22:25 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: ++ | 22:25 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: oh yeah I forgot about the irrelevant ones. | 22:25 |
| rbergeron | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3skips | 22:26 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: soon afterwords, we should probably talk seriously about finding a long-term home for our stdlib playbooks/roles | 22:26 |
| rbergeron | #info list of remaining tests that need enabling, along with an annotation as to complexity | 22:26 |
| jeblair | whether that's in-zuul-repo, or in-sister-repo or what... | 22:26 |
| rbergeron | #info 28 left :) | 22:26 |
| * fungi can imagine some of both | 22:26 | |
| jeblair | and, heh, i guess i just jumped topics accidentally | 22:27 |
| jeblair | #topic Status updates: Zuul sample jobs | 22:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates: Zuul sample jobs (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:27 | |
| jeblair | that's better | 22:27 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: are you un-blocked on proceeding with setting up our sample jobs? | 22:27 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: If BonnyCI gets a broad audience, we'll likely have a lot of tox-like jobs to contribute. | 22:27 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: ++ | 22:28 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: I don't think we have merged it yet. Checking | 22:28 |
| pabelanger | ya, we still need +3 on 438281 | 22:28 |
| jeblair | we got good feedback on that over the course of the week | 22:28 |
| pabelanger | then we can iterate forward | 22:28 |
| SpamapS | And there's also a big looming question that I keep getting asked which is "can you just run my tests in a container?" which I have to say I probably want to start making plans to answer with more than "sure once we get v3 production ready.." | 22:28 |
| pabelanger | but everybody seems on the same page as 438281, which is good | 22:28 |
| rbergeron | jeblair: in this case is job == test? or job == ?? (sorry, my dumb question of the day :D) | 22:28 |
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| jeblair | rbergeron: job meaning "unit of ansible execution in zuul" | 22:29 |
| fungi | SpamapS: single-use containers on reusable nodes... without root access i guess? | 22:30 |
| jeblair | rbergeron: usually we use "test" in the context of unit tests, to mean exercising a single bit of code | 22:30 |
| jeblair | rbergeron: roughly equivalent to "project" in jenkins and "check" in travis | 22:30 |
| fungi | SpamapS: or just with appropriate "you know this is a security foot-cannon" disclaimers? | 22:30 |
| rbergeron | jeblair: ack, gotcha | 22:31 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: i would too, but we're already quite a bit over-extended | 22:31 |
| SpamapS | Yeah I can't even get into it | 22:32 |
| SpamapS | but I'm having to start thinking about it | 22:32 |
| jeblair | that's not okay | 22:32 |
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| jeblair | we're not even remotely ready to run for real in our friendliest environment yet | 22:32 |
| jeblair | let's make some more actual progress before we take on any more design work for major new features | 22:32 |
| SpamapS | Yeah, #1 priority is getting that up. :) | 22:33 |
| SpamapS | (while maintaining management-feel-goods about trajectory and value) | 22:33 |
| jeblair | anything else about the zuul sample jobs? | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | jeblair: is there a list of wished for sample jobs | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | ? | 22:33 |
| SpamapS | great question | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | it wounds like pabelanger has some ideas in mind | 22:34 |
| rbergeron | err | 22:34 |
| jeblair | rbergeron: no, pabelanger is making good headway on that | 22:34 |
| rbergeron | sounds. | 22:34 |
| jeblair | he has *lots* ready to go actually | 22:34 |
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| jeblair | and just needs someone to +3 https://review.openstack.org/438281 | 22:34 |
| jeblair | there's a stack of like 8 changes | 22:34 |
| pabelanger | indeed | 22:34 |
| jeblair | we paused waiting on resolution of 438281 | 22:35 |
| jeblair | but now someone needs to +3 that, and then the rest shoud be rebased and we should review them and ask/answer questions about how they serve as foundational jobs or examples | 22:35 |
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| jeblair | any volunteers for that, or should i just single-core approve it? | 22:36 |
| rbergeron | that ask/answer should happen... where? future meeting? in the review? | 22:36 |
| jeblair | in reviews | 22:36 |
| jhesketh | jeblair: I can review it | 22:36 |
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| jeblair | until it gets too complicated, then we'll take it to ml/meetings, like we did for 438281 | 22:36 |
| rbergeron | okay. i thought so but wasn't sure if it was more meta-level head scratching | 22:36 |
| jeblair | rbergeron: yeah, we might uncover more questions like that | 22:37 |
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| jeblair | rbergeron: but until then... | 22:37 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: thanks! | 22:37 |
| rbergeron | #info pabelanger making headway on https://review.openstack.org/438281 (needs review), zuul sample jobs | 22:37 |
| jeblair | #action jhesketh review https://review.openstack.org/438281 | 22:38 |
| jeblair | #topic Progress summary | 22:38 |
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| rbergeron | #info then review, ask/answer questions about how they serve as foundational jobs / examples. | 22:38 |
| * SpamapS digging out link | 22:38 | |
| SpamapS | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/41 | 22:38 |
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| SpamapS | Nothing untriaged yet there | 22:39 |
| jeblair | i chatted with rcarrillocruz about the secrets work. he's a bit swamped with other work right now, so i'm going to take that over from him for a bit | 22:39 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: oh that's good to hear, I think we might butt up against it soon for artifact storage. | 22:39 |
| jeblair | i updated sb to reflect that, and will start pushing patches soon. fortunately rcarrillocruz did quite a bit of the hard stuff already. :) | 22:39 |
| SpamapS | so I may throw jamielennox at it if there's room for two cooks | 22:40 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: yeah, it's going to be a blocker for real use for sure. | 22:40 |
| SpamapS | assuming I can lift jamielennox | 22:40 |
| jamielennox | :| | 22:40 |
| SpamapS | jamielennox: it's auth. You love auth. | 22:40 |
| jeblair | SpamapS, jamielennox: cool, let me know when you're ready and i'll see if we can split off some tasks. | 22:40 |
| jeblair | at any rate, i'll take point on it to make sure it gets done | 22:41 |
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| SpamapS | I think the board accurately reflects things from where I stand | 22:41 |
| SpamapS | which is to say.. there's a ton to do, and please everyone keep your assigned items moving :) | 22:41 |
| jeblair | ++ | 22:41 |
| jamielennox | jeblair: ok, let's chat about it after | 22:42 |
| jeblair | #topic Renaming zuul-launcher? (pabelanger) | 22:42 |
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| pabelanger | ohai | 22:42 |
| SpamapS | to zuul-make-go-things-er? | 22:42 |
| jeblair | let's paint that bikeshed | 22:42 |
| rbergeron | zoo-lander i guess would be bad | 22:42 |
| pabelanger | we talked a little about this at PTG, but wanted bikeshed more about it | 22:42 |
| SpamapS | zuul-apult? | 22:42 |
| pabelanger | do we want to have 2 launchers or just 1? | 22:43 |
| SpamapS | I missed that discussion. The 2 are what? | 22:43 |
| pabelanger | reason for 1, so we don't keep asking, which launcher | 22:43 |
| jeblair | nodepool-launcher and zuul-launcher | 22:43 |
| pabelanger | thanks | 22:43 |
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| pabelanger | I think we generally agreed about renaming zuul-launcher to something else, but didn't pick the something else | 22:43 |
| SpamapS | AH | 22:43 |
| pabelanger | figure now is the time to do it | 22:44 |
| jlk | zuul-jobber | 22:44 |
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| SpamapS | so the problem is people say "on the launcher" and confusion happens? | 22:44 |
| jeblair | i think zuul-executor is probably the best non-funny name i've seen so far. it is annother borrowed-jenkins-word, but it's a good one. | 22:44 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: yep | 22:44 |
| jeblair | especially when we're wearing our sysadmin hats | 22:44 |
| jeblair | "reboot the launcher" | 22:44 |
| jlk | that makes sense | 22:44 |
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| jeblair | "er. the other launcher." | 22:44 |
| fungi | zuul-executioner would be funner | 22:44 |
| SpamapS | well it runs playbooks, so the fun name is zuul-quarterback ... but executor is probably more geek-friendly | 22:44 |
| pabelanger | I didn't mind zuul-runner, but think we had other plans for it | 22:45 |
| pabelanger | otherwise , zuul-executor wfm | 22:45 |
| jeblair | fungi: this is true | 22:45 |
| jhesketh | +1 to pabelanger | 22:45 |
| SpamapS | or just | 22:45 |
| SpamapS | the zuuler | 22:45 |
| fungi | but yeah, the pragmatist in me ultimately doesn't care what people pick as long as it's suitable disambiguated | 22:46 |
| SpamapS | zuul-ansibler? | 22:46 |
| fungi | er, suitably | 22:46 |
| SpamapS | no I like executor and I'll stop saying ridiculous things | 22:46 |
| jeblair | "zuuler? zuueler? zueller? bueller?" | 22:46 |
| Shrews | zuul-executor ftw | 22:46 |
| pabelanger | okay, I'll propose a name change to zuul-executor and see how that goes | 22:46 |
| fungi | or even just zuul-exec for teh shortnez | 22:46 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: ++ | 22:46 |
| pabelanger | thanks, that is all | 22:47 |
| jeblair | #agreed rename zuul-launcher zuul-executor to disambiguate from nodepool | 22:47 |
| SpamapS | fwiw, I wouldn't shorten it to zuul-exec | 22:47 |
| SpamapS | that sounds like a verb rather than a noun | 22:47 |
| fungi | cool, then i won't either ;) | 22:47 |
| jeblair | we're going to need new hosts zl01 -> ze01 | 22:47 |
| pabelanger | yes! | 22:47 |
| fungi | then we can say "run it from ze server!" | 22:48 |
| jeblair | but, i figured we'd get new hosts for v3 anyway, so that's probably convenient :) | 22:48 |
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| jeblair | omg where's the agenda | 22:48 |
| rbergeron | zuulecutor | 22:48 |
| jeblair | #topic Spec update: update job trees to graphs (jeblair) | 22:48 |
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| jeblair | #link Spec update: update job trees to graphs https://review.openstack.org/443985 | 22:48 |
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| fungi | this one lgtm, happy to put forward for council vote tomorrow if you like | 22:48 |
| jeblair | i proposed this spec update to do a thing we've been saying we would do in v3, which is have actual job graphs | 22:48 |
| clarkb | jeblair: there is a follow up too | 22:49 |
| clarkb | 445022? | 22:49 |
| clarkb | yup | 22:49 |
| jeblair | #link also https://review.openstack.org/445022 | 22:49 |
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| jeblair | there's even an implementation | 22:49 |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/443973 | 22:49 |
| jeblair | which is a port to v3 of the original patch offered for v2 | 22:49 |
| jeblair | (which is why that's happening in the opposite order than we normall do with specs) | 22:50 |
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| jeblair | do folks think we'll be ready to put it to a formal vote at tomorrows infra meeting? | 22:50 |
| pabelanger | no objection here | 22:51 |
| fungi | fine with me to move forward there | 22:51 |
| clarkb | they are straightforward | 22:52 |
| jeblair | okay, let's go with putting it on the agenda tomorrow, but if anyone wants more time, that's fine. that is, in fact, *why* we put it on the agenda so that we have an opportunity for people to request more time. :) | 22:53 |
| fungi | yup | 22:53 |
| jeblair | #topic New spec: Zuulv3 Launcher Security Enhancement (SpamapS) | 22:53 |
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| jeblair | #link New spec: Zuulv3 Launcher Security Enhancement https://review.openstack.org/444495 | 22:53 |
| jlk | I keep meaning to read this | 22:53 |
| jeblair | SpamapS has started working on this based on discussions we had at the ptg | 22:53 |
| fungi | this is one i haven't had a chance to read yet, but i like some of the words in the title ;) | 22:54 |
| SpamapS | 7 minutes, we should at least be able to narrow down the shed color a little :) | 22:54 |
| jeblair | it has several solutions, and i'd say it's at a point where we want to flesh out each of them a bit, yeah? | 22:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb and SpamapS has already started diving into this | 22:55 |
| SpamapS | The tl;dr is that we want to wrap ansible-playbook in host-enforced security so that we're not totally reliant on ansible plugins. | 22:55 |
| SpamapS | I just pushed a rev up as the meeting started that tries to address clarkb's initial comments and some nits | 22:55 |
| jeblair | some of the options will definitely have deployment considerations | 22:55 |
| jeblair | so wide input would be really good on this | 22:56 |
| SpamapS | It's a little bit overwhelming, because there doesn't seem to be a clear winner. | 22:56 |
| fungi | this could be said of information security in general | 22:57 |
| jamielennox | is it something that needs an upstream decision vs launch this in your own env? | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | jamielennox: I'm leaning toward an abstraction with a clear and simple initial implementation of all the options that don't require heavy deployment config. | 22:57 |
| jamielennox | like gut instinct here is docker+selinux, but that's never going to fly as a general purpose requirement | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | Which basically means chroot. | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | Anyway, reviews are definitely helpful here. | 22:58 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: thanks! | 22:58 |
| SpamapS | I'm sure there are containment techs that I haven't considered.. feel free to add them. | 22:58 |
| jeblair | #topic New spec: An interface for Zuul Job Reporting (dmsimard) | 22:58 |
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| jeblair | #link New spec: An interface for Zuul Job Reporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444088/ | 22:59 |
| jeblair | in the 1 minute remaining, i just wanted to point people at this spec | 22:59 |
| jeblair | which i believe will change a bit before it's finalized | 22:59 |
| jlk | ah, yes | 22:59 |
| jeblair | thanks everyone! | 23:00 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 13 23:00:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-03-13-22.02.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-03-13-22.02.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-03-13-22.02.log.html | 23:00 |
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