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| dirk | o/ | 13:08 |
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| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:09 |
| dirk | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof | 13:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 23 13:09:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:09 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:10 |
| jpena | o/ | 13:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | o/ | 13:10 |
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| dirk | #tipic rollcall | 13:10 |
| dirk | #chair IgorYozhikov jpena | 13:10 |
| openstack | Current chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk jpena | 13:10 |
| dirk | #topic rollcall | 13:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:11 | |
| dirk | jpena: IgorYozhikov : does any of yoy want to run the meeting? I'm also in another meeting today :-/ | 13:12 |
| IgorYozhikov | I can | 13:12 |
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| IgorYozhikov | and I want to ask you dirk about suse ci | 13:13 |
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| dirk | Thx | 13:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | I just re-triggered nova | 13:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | will it pass unit tests now? | 13:14 |
| dirk | No idea | 13:15 |
| dirk | I can watch it today | 13:15 |
| IgorYozhikov | that's will be great | 13:15 |
| dirk | We seem to have some issues with oslo.messaging test stability | 13:16 |
| dirk | It fails more often than not | 13:16 |
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| IgorYozhikov | ok, pymod2pkg has updates related to monasca. Do we need new release& | 13:17 |
| number80 | o/ | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | s/&/?/ | 13:17 |
| IgorYozhikov | Hi number80 | 13:18 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: oh yes, we need.. good point | 13:19 |
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| IgorYozhikov | :) | 13:20 |
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| toabctl | hi | 13:21 |
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| toabctl | I can triggera new release | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | number80, jpena - looks like today we have Open discussion, so please rise topics if you have | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, cool | 13:21 |
| jpena | so, about python-kombu: we're finally getting it sorted out, I hope to have it in our dependency repos soon | 13:21 |
| IgorYozhikov | please let me know & I'll ++ it | 13:21 |
| number80 | jpena: CI passed? | 13:22 |
| jpena | number80: yes | 13:22 |
| jpena | let me find the logs | 13:22 |
| number80 | can you give me the jobs which passed, so I'll tag packages appropriately | 13:22 |
| jpena | number80 https://ci.centos.org/view/rdo/view/weirdo/job/weirdo-generic-wrapper/30/console | 13:22 |
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| number80 | ok, it only passed pike job ack | 13:23 |
| jpena | I think apevec was building an updated version of the kombu package, requiring the right amqp version | 13:23 |
| toabctl | https://review.openstack.org/449142 is the pymod2pkg release | 13:23 |
| number80 | jpena: ack, I'm tagging amqp right now into pike tag | 13:24 |
| dirk | toabctl: thanks | 13:24 |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, thanx | 13:24 |
| dirk | jpena: do we need to retrigger something so that the new oslo.messaging appears ? | 13:25 |
| dirk | Or will that resolve itself? | 13:25 |
| jpena | I'll have to retrigger it in the machine hosting the repos | 13:26 |
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| IgorYozhikov | jpena, after that new kombu should appears in dlrn repos and we could send recheck-rdo, right& | 13:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | s/&/?/ | 13:27 |
| jpena | IgorYozhikov: yes | 13:28 |
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| IgorYozhikov | that's good | 13:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok, I have a question related to progress with glance, cinder & swift? | 13:32 |
| dirk | Fyi suse ci always does a full rebuild of all packages and their dependencies | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | Does someone had a chance to prepare something? | 13:33 |
| dirk | That's why we're iften globally broken when we're needing one particular review in order to pass again | 13:33 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, I know, we used obs before, libsolve - very nice thing :) | 13:34 |
| dirk | There are reviews for glance and swift | 13:34 |
| dirk | I think they are currently waiting for review | 13:34 |
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| IgorYozhikov | ah, found them | 13:34 |
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| IgorYozhikov | will examine failures and leave comments | 13:35 |
| IgorYozhikov | any other topics 4 today? | 13:37 |
| dirk | Not from me, sorry | 13:37 |
| toabctl | nope | 13:37 |
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| jpena | nope | 13:38 |
| IgorYozhikov | #action IgorYozhikov will look through reviews and leave comments if necessary | 13:38 |
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| IgorYozhikov | I'm suggesting to finish our meeting then | 13:40 |
| IgorYozhikov | #endmeeting | 13:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 23 13:41:09 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-03-23-13.09.html | 13:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-03-23-13.09.txt | 13:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-03-23-13.09.log.html | 13:41 |
| IgorYozhikov | c u soon :) | 13:41 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 23 15:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| xyang2 | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
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| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| tommylikehu_ | ganso: hello | 15:00 |
| vkmc | hi hi o/ | 15:01 |
| jprovazn | hi | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: tommy respects only you )) | 15:01 |
| arnewiebalck | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | no announcements today | 15:01 |
| tommylikehu_ | vponomaryov: ... | 15:01 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: lol | 15:01 |
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| tbarron | ganso: hi | 15:01 |
| zhongjun_ | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: hi | 15:01 |
| ganso | vponomaryov, tbarron, tommylikehu_ : hello :) | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic SSL certificate verification | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SSL certificate verification (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
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| bswartz | this issue popped up late last week and I thought it would be good to bring it up here | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | for API? drivers? | 15:02 |
| bswartz | this is a py27 change | 15:03 |
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| dustins | hey all! | 15:03 |
| bswartz | between py 2.7.8 and 2.7.9, the SSL library switched from not verifying SSL certs by default to verifying by default | 15:04 |
| bswartz | in either case the behavior is configurable but the default changed and most people use the default | 15:04 |
| markstur | hi | 15:04 |
| bswartz | Apparently it's relatively common for people to actually use HTTPS an not verify certificates, even though it's bad security practice | 15:04 |
| clarkb | my understanding was older python couldnt be made to do it instead you had to install extra libs (hence the urllib3 insecure platform warning) | 15:05 |
| bswartz | NetApp first noticed this issue back during ocata when our driver started having issues communicating with some backends using HTTPS | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | clarkb: I wasn't aware of that -- that explains some things | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | in any case the initial response was to turn create an option to turn off SSL cert verification in our driver, but I pushed back against that solution | 15:06 |
| clarkb | I should clarify older python stdlib couldnt do it | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | My stance is that SSL certification verification is there for a reason, and it's better to show users how to use it correctly than to give them a switch to turn it off | 15:07 |
| bswartz | users who _really_ don't want to do the work of setting up SSL right still have the option to use HTTP or downgrade to python 2.7.8 | 15:08 |
| jungleboyj | Seems reasonable. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | anyways the issue popped up again because EMC encountered the same issue and pushed a bugfix to disable SSL cert verification in their driver, but did it using a global driver option | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | I have reverted that bugfix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447065/ | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | and the remaining issue is how to solve EMC's problem | 15:10 |
| markstur | it is good to be able to turn it off in test labs | 15:10 |
| bswartz | markstur: I disagree | 15:10 |
| bswartz | it's good to setup SSL properly in your test labs | 15:10 |
| bswartz | or test with HTTP | 15:11 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: I thought you are okay for a driver only fix? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | anyways the current proposal is to introduce an EMC-only driver option to disable SSL cert verification, and I'm okay with that | 15:11 |
| clarkb | its trivial to properly trust a self signed cert fwiw | 15:11 |
| markstur | s/it is good/it is sometimes necessary (and evil...)/ | 15:11 |
| bswartz | but I don't want anyone getting the idea that's is a recommended practice | 15:12 |
| tbarron | xyang2: I have some concern with driver only fix unless the option is marked 'testing...' or whatever | 15:12 |
| tbarron | xyang2: from a distro and support POV, #1 | 15:12 |
| tbarron | xyang2: and #2, from manila seeking managed-vulnerability-status from OpenStack security | 15:13 |
| ganso | tbarron: from my understanding, that was targetting production clouds | 15:13 |
| tbarron | ganso: ? so why would a production cloud want to run w/o cert for https? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | xyang2: I would hope that the EMC driver option default to true (verify certificates unless the admin specifically disables it) | 15:13 |
| xyang2 | tbarron: default to true, is ok? | 15:14 |
| ganso | tbarron: I don't know, EMC should have the answer to that | 15:14 |
| bswartz | xyang2: maybe log a warning when it's turned off, explaining the risks | 15:14 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: ok | 15:14 |
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| tbarron | xyang2: yeah, something loud that support people will see | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | the truth is that most admins are dumb and will take the path of least resistance to make things work | 15:15 |
| bswartz | which is why I applaud the python community for making it harder to use SSL without certificate validation | 15:15 |
| bswartz | as developers we have responsibility to make things secure by default and make it clear when options are changed to compromise security | 15:16 |
| vkmc | bswartz++ | 15:16 |
| zhongjun_ | lol | 15:17 |
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| jungleboyj | Truth. | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | #topic Specs | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/manila-specs | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | specs deadline is in 3 weeks | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | please be reviewing specs | 15:19 |
| bswartz | are there any spec-review-related issues we should discuss here today? | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | zhongjun_: you have the most open specs for pike | 15:20 |
| tbarron | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447021/ is a good spec but needs an implementor | 15:20 |
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| tbarron | ^^ if anyone is interested | 15:20 |
| zhongjun_ | bswartz: yes, please review my specs | 15:20 |
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| tbarron | ^^ should largely be a port from cinder | 15:22 |
| bswartz | also I should point out that while pike is a longer release, we have fewer people actively working on the team now :-( so we need to be mindful of core reviewer bandwidth | 15:22 |
| bswartz | we will most likely need to make some priority calls about what we focus on in Pike | 15:22 |
| bswartz | and some perfectly good specs and/or ideas might not get approved just so we can focus on the high priority stuff | 15:23 |
| vkmc | more eyes on this would be appreciated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445441/ | 15:23 |
| bswartz | tbarron: why would Arne Wiebalck propose a spec he doesn't plan to work on? | 15:24 |
| vkmc | with a high interest with regards to the perf section | 15:24 |
| zhongjun_ | How to define which spec is perfectly good specs? :D | 15:25 |
| tbarron | bswartz: arnewiebalck is running a very big cloud full time, I think it's great to have operators proposing work for us | 15:25 |
| arnewiebalck | bswartz: b/c I’d like that feature to operate Manila in our cloud | 15:25 |
| tbarron | instead of us just coming up a priori with ideas of what operators need | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | arnewiebalck: hi! | 15:25 |
| arnewiebalck | bswartz: o/ | 15:25 |
| arnewiebalck | bswartz: besides, I wouldn’t call myself a developer :) | 15:26 |
| bswartz | okay I would just assume that operators would work with a developer to produce a spec that the developer would go on to implement | 15:26 |
| bswartz | it's great to get input from operators | 15:26 |
| bswartz | but a spec with no implementor does create problems for us | 15:27 |
| arnewiebalck | bswartz: I thought defining more precisely what I’d need would helkp finding a dev | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I guess it's good to raise awareness that we need a volunteer here | 15:27 |
| bswartz | and hopefully it's obvious to everyone that working on something that a deployer asks for is way more likely to be useful that working on stuff we dream up ourselves | 15:27 |
| bswartz | :-) | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | actually, I can take it | 15:28 |
| vkmc | if the implementation is not very complex (I need to read the spec), we may be able to get an intern from Outreachy to work on that | 15:28 |
| vkmc | or Valeriy :) | 15:28 |
| bswartz | Outreachy? | 15:28 |
| vkmc | yeah it's an internship project we have in OpenStack | 15:29 |
| bswartz | ah | 15:29 |
| vkmc | s/project/program/g | 15:29 |
| tbarron | and btw vkmc's spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445441/ for telemetry is actual operator/customer demanded also | 15:29 |
| bswartz | we have a bunch of shovel-ready work for interns who want to contribute | 15:29 |
| jungleboyj | If it is just a port from Cinder it shouldn't be that bad. | 15:29 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: +1 | 15:30 |
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| arnewiebalck | i referenced the Cinder commit in the spec | 15:30 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: if you're interested please take a look | 15:30 |
| bswartz | I'm curious to know how much work this is | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: ok | 15:30 |
| vkmc | oh nice... yeah, in that case it could be ok | 15:30 |
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| jungleboyj | vkmc: If you have someone Outreachy for it I can be available to help understand the Cinder side as they bring it over. | 15:31 |
| tbarron | well vponomaryov will probably have it done tomorrow :) | 15:31 |
| vkmc | jungleboyj, that would be awesome! | 15:31 |
| vkmc | yeah :) | 15:31 |
| vkmc | tbarron, ^ | 15:32 |
| tbarron | but jungleboyj there's more gold where that came from | 15:32 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Is he the Gorka of Manila tbarron ? | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | okay I think that covers specs | 15:33 |
| bswartz | please review them, please don't feel bad about pushing for reviews if you're an author | 15:34 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:34 | |
| bswartz | any other things for today? | 15:34 |
| tommylikehu_ | wait | 15:34 |
| tommylikehu_ | hope someone would like to take a look | 15:35 |
| tommylikehu_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448384/ | 15:35 |
| tommylikehu_ | I am proposing this in cinder, but we also have this in manila | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | tommylikehu_: is there a spec for that, or just the change? | 15:36 |
| tommylikehu_ | it's a idea | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | tommylikehu_: Is this THE change? | 15:37 |
| tommylikehu_ | jungleboyj: yes | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | Ah, yes it is. :-) | 15:37 |
| tommylikehu_ | I hope I can get more response | 15:37 |
| tommylikehu_ | just that. | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | So, I looked at that more this morning and my confusion was I didn't even know that change had gone in place. | 15:38 |
| bswartz | okay and I see that jprovazn already saw it so hopefully the idea can be integrated into the manila user messages work if it makes sense | 15:38 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu_: thank you for working for consistency across the two projects where it matters, despite jgriffith saying he doesn't give a @#$#@ about what manila does :) | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: ++ | 15:38 |
| tommylikehu_ | tbarron: lol | 15:38 |
| tommylikehu_ | tbarron: you checked the history | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | tommylikehu_: I will go comment in the review. See what others think. Thank you for the updates and bearing with me on that. | 15:39 |
| jprovazn | tommylikehu_, bswartz: yes, I like the idea in the patch and if manila user messages spec will be accepted I hope we can use the same too | 15:39 |
| bswartz | k | 15:39 |
| tommylikehu_ | thanks. jprovazn, jungleboyj, tbarron:) | 15:39 |
| tommylikehu_ | We can do this after meeting | 15:40 |
| bswartz | alright if there's nothing else we're done | 15:40 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 15:40 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 23 15:40:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-03-23-15.00.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-03-23-15.00.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-03-23-15.00.log.html | 15:40 |
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| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:40 |
| vkmc | thx o/ | 15:40 |
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| vds | o/ | 17:00 |
| hyakuhei | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 23 17:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| lhinds | o/ | 17:00 |
| vds | o/ | 17:00 |
| vinaypotluri | o/ | 17:00 |
| knangia | o/ | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | How's everyone doing today? | 17:01 |
| unrahul | o/ | 17:01 |
| knangia | doing well | 17:01 |
| unrahul | One more day to Friday | 17:01 |
| unrahul | what abt you hyakuhei ? | 17:01 |
| knangia | how are you doing hyakuhei | 17:01 |
| lhinds | spring cold :( | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey is on holiday so he won't be hrere | 17:01 |
| knangia | oops :( | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Heh, better this week. There's a massive IBM conference so everyone is distracted and my todo list is finally getting shorter :) | 17:02 |
| vinaypotluri | great | 17:02 |
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| unrahul | :) | 17:03 |
| knangia | nice :) | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Sweet | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | welcome mdong | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | ok, first up is syntribos :) | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Syntribos | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Syntribos (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:04 | |
| unrahul | yup | 17:04 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 17:04 |
| * sigmavirus sneaks into the back | 17:04 | |
| unrahul | so we are running the tests against Cinder | 17:04 |
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| mdong | o/ | 17:05 |
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| unrahul | Got a few 500 errors, also looking into old SSNs and CVEs to see if any of the issues have regressed | 17:05 |
| knangia | * OSSNs | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus | unrahul: are you blocked on cinder by any chance? (pun intended) | 17:05 |
| unrahul | Thats it from us on the testing side | 17:05 |
| unrahul | :D | 17:05 |
| unrahul | good one sigmavirus | 17:05 |
| unrahul | Any particular areas of cinder if you guys want us to look into.. ? | 17:06 |
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| unrahul | hyakuhei: sigmavirus lhinds ^ | 17:06 |
| lhinds | nothing comes to mind, unrahul - good job so far | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | I'm not sure. There's so much plumbing there. We know there's issues with many of the backends... I'm no expert though, sigmavirus - what do you think ? | 17:07 |
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| lhinds | perhaps the volume encryption parts? | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus | lhinds: that'd be good | 17:07 |
| unrahul | I think by default its handled by LUKS, may be some binary fuzzing? | 17:07 |
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| lhinds | unrahul: +1 | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:08 |
| unrahul | thanks all.. | 17:08 |
| unrahul | thats it from our side for this week | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus | unrahul: hyakuhei the driver interactions will be hard to test without hardware | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | How do they get tested atm? | 17:09 |
| sigmavirus | hyakuhei: cinder has lots of 3rd party CI | 17:09 |
| unrahul | sigmavirus: ..m.. :/ hyeah.. we are limited in those situations.. | 17:09 |
| sigmavirus | unrahul: right, I was trying to point that out for you =P | 17:09 |
| unrahul | yup..we are only testing the default lvm backend that comes with devstack | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus | moving on? | 17:10 |
| unrahul | +1 | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus | hyakuhei: ^ | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | ty | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Security Docs | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security Docs (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:11 | |
| hyakuhei | asettle has been making some great efforts recently I don't think there's any outstanding reviews | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Obviously OSIC - we love you :) | 17:11 |
| unrahul | hyakuhei: :P | 17:12 |
| knangia | thank you hyakuhei :) | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Is there anything that the wider community needs to look at? | 17:12 |
| unrahul | Nop, this week we were a lil slow on the docs front | 17:12 |
| unrahul | nothing as of now for reviews or feedback | 17:12 |
| knangia | but, we have assigned more bugs to ourselves, will be working on those | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Cool, ok | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | That's epic you guys. | 17:13 |
| michaelxin | good job! | 17:14 |
| knangia | :D | 17:14 |
| vinaypotluri | :) | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | #topic OSSN | 17:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSN (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:14 | |
| hyakuhei | lhinds ^^ | 17:14 |
| lhinds | only one open, which I am likely going to 'won't fix': | 17:15 |
| lhinds | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1673085 | 17:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673085 in OpenStack Security Notes "scheduler hints are unbounded and never deleted" [Undecided,New] | 17:15 |
| lhinds | from what I understand, this needs a code change. | 17:15 |
| sigmavirus | seems reasonable if that's the case | 17:15 |
| lhinds | so I prefer not to send out a note saying you're at risk, and you cannot do anything about it yet :P | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Hmm, normally if a code change is required, there's an OSSA. | 17:15 |
| lhinds | hyakuhei: my thoughts too. | 17:16 |
| lhinds | if anyone wants to jump in on the issue comments, please do so. | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | done lhinds | 17:17 |
| lhinds | I will it another week for Matt to get back too. | 17:17 |
| lhinds | thx hyakuhei | 17:17 |
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| lhinds | that's it for notes. | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | Cool, I see an keystone trusts note in the queue, is that being processed? | 17:18 |
| lhinds | oh rly | 17:18 |
| lhinds | let me look. | 17:18 |
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| lhinds | oh is that embaroged? | 17:18 |
| lhinds | I am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | One moment | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Yup that's a super secret one | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | There's nothing wrong with trusts people, go back to your homes, nothing to see here. | 17:19 |
| lhinds | I normally see private issues, but only if marked as ossn | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Yup i see it as OSSN, private | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | I'll ping you a link | 17:20 |
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| lhinds | hmm, ok, I should see that. Thanks! | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | Cool. | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any Other Business | 17:20 |
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| hyakuhei | Anything to bring up guys? | 17:20 |
| hyakuhei | I think we can probably call it here then :) | 17:21 |
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| hyakuhei | TY ALL | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 23 17:22:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-23-17.00.html | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-23-17.00.txt | 17:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-03-23-17.00.log.html | 17:22 |
| lhinds | thanks all! | 17:22 |
| lhinds | thx hyakuhei | 17:23 |
| vinaypotluri | thank you all | 17:23 |
| knangia | thanks all! | 17:25 |
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| cdent | SpamapS, ttx is there a meeting or is my calendar still wrong? | 20:01 |
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| ttx | i'm here | 20:01 |
| SpamapS | I am double booked, can somebody else chair? | 20:01 |
| * ttx has some network issues so would prefer not | 20:02 | |
| cdent | #startmeeting arch_wg | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 23 20:02:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 20:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'arch_wg' | 20:02 |
| cdent | #link agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Arch-WG#Agenda | 20:02 |
| cdent | say hello to this week arch-wg | 20:02 |
| cdent | harlowja you here? | 20:03 |
| harlowja | oh hi | 20:03 |
| cdent | #chair ttx SpamapS harlowja | 20:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SpamapS cdent harlowja ttx | 20:03 |
| harlowja | u aren't clint, lol | 20:03 |
| ttx | harlowja: o/ | 20:03 |
| harlowja | what did u do with clint, lol | 20:03 |
| cdent | nom nom nom | 20:03 |
| cdent | #topic previous meeting action items | 20:03 |
| cdent | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2017/ | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 20:03 | |
| cdent | no rocky_g here today two actions from here to care over | 20:04 |
| cdent | #action rocky_g Send email regarding implementation bleed-through (stretch: submit as raw proposal) (Carried since Feb 9 2017) | 20:04 |
| cdent | #action rocky_g Resurrect Error Codes and Logging Improvements spec and socialize appropriately before PTG (Carried since Feb 9 2017) | 20:04 |
| cdent | SpamapS was supposed to "submit analysis for nova-compute-api as patch to nova-compute-api work stream." | 20:04 |
| cdent | did that happen? | 20:05 |
| ttx | haven't seen that yet | 20:05 |
| cdent | doesn't look like it | 20:05 |
| cdent | the 'move to active' review is still pending as well | 20:05 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435555/ | 20:05 |
| cdent | #topic OpenStack Specs check-in | 20:06 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-specs | 20:06 |
| cdent | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/ | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Specs check-in (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 20:06 | |
| cdent | I guess this is a prompt to check in on anything openstack-specs that might relevant? | 20:06 |
| cdent | no recent activity in gerrit for openstack-specs | 20:06 |
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| * cdent skips #topic Proposal Process Review | 20:07 | |
| cdent | #topic Proposals for work | 20:07 |
| cdent | * nova-compute-api - SpamapS | 20:07 |
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| ttx | I had a question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449078/1 | 20:08 |
| harlowja | it'd also be interseting to figure out what https://github.com/openstack/mogan is :-P | 20:08 |
| ttx | like should I consider the earlier thing implemented and push a new thing | 20:08 |
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| cdent | on the nova-compute-api I guess we are waiting additional input and plans | 20:08 |
| ttx | or is it ok to modify it | 20:09 |
| cdent | ttx I think modifying is fine at this stage | 20:09 |
| cdent | we don't need to overburden the process yet? | 20:09 |
| ttx | ok | 20:09 |
| harlowja | more process!!! | 20:09 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:09 |
| cdent | #topic Active workstreams | 20:09 |
| cdent | * Base Services - ttx | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Active workstreams (Meeting topic: arch_wg)" | 20:09 | |
| cdent | started that discussion already, is there more to say? | 20:09 |
| ttx | right so I touched on that just earlier | 20:09 |
| cdent | we all seem to be in agreement that pitching it slightly different is a good idea? | 20:10 |
| ttx | not much. I wanted to document the expand/contract thing so that we use it with postgres | 20:10 |
| ttx | but then also mention the direct route we'll likely follow for the dlm | 20:11 |
| ttx | should definitely order them the other way :) | 20:11 |
| cdent | #action ttx to change expand/contract concept to default first to picking the best if possible | 20:11 |
| cdent | anything other active workstreams? | 20:12 |
| ttx | the next base service is likely to be the dlm now, so we'll probably have to work on that | 20:12 |
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| harlowja | can we also not call it DLM :) | 20:12 |
| cdent | or perhaps a better question is: what active workstreams should we push | 20:12 |
| cdent | harlowja++ | 20:12 |
| harlowja | jus a suggestion ;) | 20:12 |
| harlowja | *just | 20:12 |
| ttx | we can call it 'etcd' | 20:12 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:12 |
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| cdent | "canonical hub for cluster coordination and state management" | 20:13 |
| harlowja | ya, need a better name, something that doesn't describe one particular feature of these things | 20:13 |
| cdent | is a bit of a mouthful | 20:13 |
| harlowja | CHCCSM | 20:13 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:13 |
| ttx | scs -- shared context service | 20:13 |
| cdent | fancy! | 20:13 |
| cdent | does that mean we can start a shared context service as a service service? | 20:14 |
| ttx | +service++ | 20:14 |
| ttx | ok that is all on base services | 20:15 |
| clarkb | this might not be the best venue for it, but considering the current memory pressure in integration testing we likely want to keep an eye on that as we add a new service. But also putting more pressure on project teams to go on a diet like heat would be awesome | 20:15 |
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| cdent | indeed | 20:15 |
| harlowja | so that might be another kind of thing to start a spec on | 20:15 |
| harlowja | i don't really think people even have visiblity into there memory consumption | 20:16 |
| ttx | memory consumption ? | 20:16 |
| harlowja | ya i know | 20:16 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:16 |
| ttx | that's a good one | 20:16 |
| cdent | so that would a workstream to encourage or do some analysis? | 20:16 |
| harlowja | it may not be possible to fix, but at least some visibility might help | 20:17 |
| clarkb | harlowja: eh I think its 100% fixabnle | 20:17 |
| cdent | if this were for publishing guidance the guidance would be "don't be fat" | 20:17 |
| clarkb | harlowja: heat had like a 60% reduction just with a few changes | 20:17 |
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| harlowja | did they just scale back active engines and ... ? | 20:17 |
| ttx | yeah, the low hanging fruit can represent 80% | 20:17 |
| cdent | clarkb: anything that sounds like it will be repeatable elsehwere? | 20:17 |
| clarkb | and we've trimmed a fair bit out of the supporting cast of services too. Its just a matter of people looking at what is using it and trimming it down | 20:17 |
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| * ttx types slowly, trying to learn a US keyboard | 20:17 | |
| cdent | repeatable in the "oh, duh, yeah" sense | 20:18 |
| clarkb | cdent: harlowja my understanding of it was they changed the way they stored all their state in memory | 20:18 |
| cdent | ah | 20:18 |
| clarkb | previously it was naive and it showed | 20:18 |
| * cdent suspects there could be a bit of that in the nova-conductor and -scheduler | 20:18 | |
| harlowja | ya, i think they use the python stack for all there engine coroutine state, so it'd be understandable that such state could be large | 20:19 |
| harlowja | *especially if there are a bunch of active engines | 20:19 |
| cdent | I haven't got cycles do volunteer for this. does anyone? | 20:20 |
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| clarkb | I've been poking at it on the more infra side of things since that is what I am familiar with. Things like apache and wsgi have been tuned down and I have a change up to enable ksm | 20:20 |
| ttx | same here, we could maybe put a 'help wanted' sign on the ml ? | 20:20 |
| clarkb | but likely oyu want individuals in each project pushing from within each project | 20:20 |
| harlowja | yup | 20:21 |
| ttx | a queens goal would probably be too late | 20:21 |
| * cdent nods | 20:21 | |
| cdent | I was thinking more in terms of an agitator, coordinator, not someone to go fix everything | 20:21 |
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| clarkb | jordanP on the qa side ahs been doing things too. Might be interested? | 20:22 |
| harlowja | i am good at agitating,lol | 20:22 |
| cdent | #action harlowja to spin up some attention to memory usage in projects | 20:22 |
| cdent | oh look, you won first prize! | 20:23 |
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| harlowja | :-P | 20:23 |
| cdent | I can undo that if you feel that was a gross abuse of power. | 20:23 |
| harlowja | nah, its fine | 20:23 |
| cdent | or you can too | 20:23 |
| cdent | woot | 20:23 |
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| ttx | cdent: you're a natural born leader | 20:24 |
| cdent | I think we're already there but: | 20:24 |
| cdent | #topic Open Discussion | 20:24 |
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| * cdent adds ttx quote to CV | 20:24 | |
| ttx | if nothing else I'll go back to my regular evening | 20:25 |
| cdent | I've got one: I personally think that unitl we make concrete active progress on the SCS the arch-wg is sort of walking slowly | 20:25 |
| ttx | got that m key is killing me | 20:25 |
| ttx | gott or god, not got | 20:26 |
| cdent | or to put it another way: SCS will prove the pudding | 20:26 |
| cdent | I'm not sure why I feel that way. | 20:26 |
| harlowja | so another thing, i know there are architects out there that are not on here | 20:27 |
| ttx | yes, base services was more like a framework to introduce scs | 20:27 |
| harlowja | they have to exist (just like there are engineer managers that exist in the shadows somewhere) | 20:27 |
| cdent | harlowja: quite | 20:27 |
| harlowja | so how can we find them :-P | 20:27 |
| harlowja | and get them into here | 20:27 |
| cdent | by doing something intriguing and valuable? | 20:27 |
| harlowja | sounds like alot to ask | 20:28 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:28 |
| cdent | api-wg got interesting when we started drawing attention to how wrong some uses of http were | 20:28 |
| harlowja | we need a PR person | 20:28 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:28 |
| cdent | and providing concrete advice on how to change, not just documenting the status quo | 20:28 |
| harlowja | ya, i mean i get that | 20:29 |
| cdent | but... | 20:29 |
| ttx | until we actually do something, we'll just be another random group of nice folks | 20:29 |
| harlowja | is that the only way? | 20:30 |
| harlowja | i mean alot of us have done things, so is there any way to use that to jumpstart things? | 20:30 |
| harlowja | like put ttx in newsweek or something | 20:30 |
| harlowja | or cdent | 20:30 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:30 |
| harlowja | CNN may take anyone at this point? | 20:31 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:31 |
| * cdent wonders how harlowja feels about being called "nice" | 20:31 | |
| harlowja | i'm always nice | 20:31 |
| harlowja | :-P | 20:31 |
| ttx | I need to run | 20:32 |
| cdent | yeah, shall we call it, before I start making more stupid puns and jokes? | 20:32 |
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| ttx | call | 20:32 |
| cdent | thanks everyone, we are at least laying in some common language and mind so we can make a bright future ... soon | 20:33 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 20:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 23 20:33:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2017/arch_wg.2017-03-23-20.02.html | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2017/arch_wg.2017-03-23-20.02.txt | 20:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/arch_wg/2017/arch_wg.2017-03-23-20.02.log.html | 20:33 |
| ttx | thx cdent | 20:34 |
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| jrobinson | Hello! the docs meeting is planned to start in about 5 to 7 minutes. | 20:53 |
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| jrobinson | #startmeeting docteam | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 23 21:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jrobinson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 21:00 |
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| jrobinson | Hello everyone, the OpenStack docs team meeting is ready to start, who is around today? | 21:00 |
| bmoss | o/ | 21:00 |
| jrobinson | bmoss, \o | 21:01 |
| alex_bash | o/ | 21:01 |
| ianychoi | hello | 21:02 |
| jrobinson | alex_bash, \o | 21:02 |
| jrobinson | That's three of us, might need a few more for quorum today. | 21:02 |
| jrobinson | oh and ianychoi is 4 :) thanks ianychoi | 21:03 |
| jrobinson | apologies, miscounted | 21:03 |
| ianychoi | jrobinson, hi thanks haha :) | 21:03 |
| jrobinson | it's early morning here | 21:03 |
| ianychoi | Yep 7am in Australia and 6am in Korea | 21:03 |
| loquacities | o/ | 21:03 |
| ianychoi | Now I am on vacation and it is 11 am now | 21:04 |
| jrobinson | loquacities, \o | 21:04 |
| ianychoi | loquacities, hi! | 21:04 |
| loquacities | sorry i'm late :) | 21:04 |
| ianychoi | 5 members are now in meeting :) | 21:04 |
| jrobinson | loquacities, no problems. I believe 5 is enough to carry the meeting. | 21:04 |
| loquacities | sure :) | 21:05 |
| jrobinson | ianychoi, with 5 here I'll get started | 21:05 |
| ianychoi | yep :) | 21:05 |
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| jrobinson | So I'll begin by briefly explaining that PTL Alex is away today, but Alex has written up the agenda for us to follow, so I'll be going through that now. | 21:06 |
| jrobinson | #topic Action items from last meeting | 21:06 |
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| jrobinson | We had just one - Review the Admin Guide migration spec | 21:07 |
| jrobinson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439122/ | 21:07 |
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| jrobinson | The spec has had several reviews from docs and one project liaison this fortnight. | 21:08 |
| jrobinson | So we can call this item completed. | 21:08 |
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| jrobinson | #topic Countdown to summit | 21:08 |
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| jrobinson | Moving on to this item, since there are a few points to talk about here. | 21:08 |
| jrobinson | First, the Boston Summit schedule (starting Mon 8th of May) is available | 21:09 |
| jrobinson | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/ | 21:09 |
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| ianychoi | jrobinson, are you planning to go to Boston Summit? | 21:10 |
| jrobinson | ianychoi, it's not likely I will be there. No plans have been put together at this stage. | 21:11 |
| ianychoi | I see | 21:11 |
| jrobinson | A key meeting in the summit schedule is that Docs and l18n have a project onboarding room at the summit. | 21:11 |
| ianychoi | yep | 21:12 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2017-March/009828.html | 21:12 |
| ianychoi | And note that Forum topic submission is now open: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ The due is April 2nd | 21:12 |
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| jrobinson | ianychoi, thanks for the dev mailing list link | 21:13 |
| ianychoi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 | 21:13 |
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| jrobinson | #Info Contact Alex (asettle) if you can assist with the onboarding room at Boston. | 21:13 |
| ianychoi | There is no Docs team brainstorming currently. I just want to ask whether Docs team consider Forum topics or not. | 21:14 |
| annegentle | ianychoi yes, the install guide tag came up at the TC meeting this week as a good Forum topic. | 21:14 |
| annegentle | ianychoi Alex is working on it | 21:15 |
| ianychoi | annegentle, aha I see - yep I have seen one Gerrit review in openstack/governance, thanks for the info! | 21:15 |
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| jrobinson | #Info Docs has one possible forum topic planned - the governance tag for our install guides | 21:16 |
| annegentle | Well, it came out of that | 21:17 |
| annegentle | but really it'll be more about using distribution packages for the install guide | 21:17 |
| jrobinson | Kendall N will also be emailing the Dev mailing list with more information on forum topics. | 21:17 |
| annegentle | I think | 21:17 |
| jrobinson | annegentle, sorry to interrupt - okay, that's good to note. | 21:17 |
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| annegentle | #info Docs Forum topic to focus on packaging and install guides and distros | 21:18 |
| jrobinson | thanks, was just about to write something similar :) | 21:18 |
| jrobinson | And just one more point on the forum, this is one email from Kendall with some context: | 21:19 |
| jrobinson | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114149.html | 21:19 |
| jrobinson | More generally on the summit, | 21:19 |
| jrobinson | Alex is delivering a Docs project update on Monday May 8, 3:40pm-4:20pm. | 21:20 |
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| jrobinson | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Alexandra+Settle | 21:20 |
| ianychoi | Yep I would like to go there :) | 21:20 |
| jrobinson | Olga and Andreas are also listed as presenters on the schedule too. | 21:21 |
| jrobinson | Any further points about the Boston Summit? | 21:21 |
| loquacities | i have Opinions about the packaging stuff, and the tag | 21:21 |
| loquacities | i meant to respond to things yesterday, but didn't get that far | 21:21 |
| loquacities | will do today | 21:21 |
| annegentle | capital O :) | 21:21 |
| annegentle | sounds good | 21:21 |
| loquacities | very deliberate :P | 21:22 |
| ianychoi | Haha big O :) | 21:22 |
| bsilverman_ | o/ | 21:23 |
| jrobinson | summit is the traditional place for Opinions and discussion. | 21:23 |
| jrobinson | bsilverman_, \o | 21:23 |
| jrobinson | The next topic is a PTL report | 21:23 |
| jrobinson | #Topic PTL Report | 21:24 |
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| jrobinson | From Alex: | 21:24 |
| ianychoi | bsilverman_, hi :) | 21:24 |
| jrobinson | "I am (asettle) in the process of drafting a governance tag for our install guides." | 21:24 |
| jrobinson | "Would be great for everyone to review and understand what the process will involve." | 21:24 |
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| jrobinson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445536/ | 21:24 |
| jrobinson | So on the patch, check on and read the docs_install-guide-verified.rst file | 21:25 |
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| ianychoi | I see - that's what I have seen it (because I want to propose another tag for I18n) | 21:28 |
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| loquacities | thanks team, i need to head out o/ | 21:29 |
| jrobinson | ianychoi, yes a tag similar to this for tracking accuracy is a good plan | 21:29 |
| jrobinson | loquacities, thank you, and see ya! \o | 21:29 |
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| ianychoi | loquacities, have a good day! | 21:29 |
| jrobinson | Any further comments on the install-guide-verified tag proposal | 21:30 |
| ianychoi | jrobinson, I agree :) | 21:30 |
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| annegentle | and I have to go too o/ thanks jrobinson for stepping in and running the meeting! | 21:31 |
| jrobinson | Okay, moving on to speciality team reports | 21:31 |
| jrobinson | annegentle, no problems | 21:31 |
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| jrobinson | #topic Speciality Team Reports | 21:32 |
| ianychoi | Yep, let's move on :) | 21:32 |
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| jrobinson | I know that more information should be available for each team in the Docs Newsletter this week | 21:32 |
| jrobinson | So if there is no update, the Docs Newletter will have more information | 21:33 |
| jrobinson | Anne has just headed out, so no API update. | 21:33 |
| ianychoi | Yep | 21:33 |
| jrobinson | Configuration Reference and CLI Reference - | 21:34 |
| jrobinson | I don think Katomo is here. | 21:34 |
| ianychoi | Q: Arch design is not a specialty team? | 21:35 |
| jrobinson | High Availability Guide - iphutch, any update here | 21:35 |
| ianychoi | Oops sorry | 21:35 |
| ianychoi | Operations & Arch Design haha | 21:35 |
| jrobinson | ianychoi, no problems, yes it has Operations first. Another capital O :) | 21:36 |
| iphutch | New ha guide toc is now merged as a draft | 21:36 |
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| jrobinson | iphutch, excellent :) | 21:36 |
| jrobinson | Hypervisor Tuning Guide - Blair B | 21:37 |
| jrobinson | I don't have Blair's IRC nic on hand. | 21:37 |
| bsilverman_ | I guess Darren isn’t here | 21:38 |
| jrobinson | bsilverman_, that's right, Darren is also away today. | 21:38 |
| jrobinson | Installation Guides - Lana also headed out | 21:39 |
| jrobinson | So Hypervisor Tuning and Installation guide updates will be in the newsletter. | 21:39 |
| jrobinson | Moving on to Networking Guide - John D | 21:39 |
| jrobinson | john-davidge is also not here. | 21:40 |
| jrobinson | Operations and Architecture Design guides - darrenc - also not away | 21:40 |
| jrobinson | Security Guides - Nathan D | 21:41 |
| bsilverman_ | also not away? | 21:41 |
| bsilverman_ | :slightly_smiling_face: | 21:42 |
| jrobinson | bsilverman_, not completely sure, just checking on Nathan's IRC nic, | 21:42 |
| bsilverman_ | you said darrenc was “also not away”, wouldn’t that mean he’s here? :slightly_smiling_face: | 21:42 |
| jrobinson | yep, that's a typo :) Like I said earlier, it's early morning here. Darren is definitely away, sorry for the ambiguity. | 21:43 |
| jrobinson | Training Guides: Matjaz P | 21:43 |
| ianychoi | matjazp is not here | 21:44 |
| jrobinson | thanks ianychoi :) | 21:44 |
| jrobinson | moving on to Training labs: Pranav Salunke, Roger Luethi | 21:44 |
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| jrobinson | Also not sure if they are here. | 21:45 |
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| jrobinson | Moving on to the User-Guides - my update: | 21:46 |
| jrobinson | Several other Legacy commands were converted to OS commands this week. | 21:46 |
| jrobinson | Reviewed the Admin Guide spec. | 21:47 |
| ianychoi | Good :) | 21:47 |
| jrobinson | That's all the important points. | 21:47 |
| jrobinson | And now an new team update | 21:47 |
| jrobinson | Docs theme and tools: bmoss | 21:47 |
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| bsilverman_ | Arch guide has had storage structure changes and minor edits to the compute-design | 21:47 |
| jrobinson | thank you bsilverman_ :) | 21:48 |
| bmoss | openstackdocstheme 1.7.0 has been released. Highlights include improvements to PDF styling and the search page. | 21:48 |
| bmoss | We've had some issues come up with the auto-generation scripts. Some have been fixed already (thanks Kato and Christian!), and we're investigating others. If you notice anything amiss or would like to help out, please let me know. | 21:48 |
| bmoss | In other release news, we'll be cutting the Ocata branch for openstack-manuals today (Friday) and closing out the final release tasks. Yay! | 21:48 |
| bsilverman_ | Yay! New branch. | 21:48 |
| bmoss | :) | 21:48 |
| ianychoi | bmoss, yep I am on vacation but try to address WIP for PDF in openstack-manuals to make use of new openstackdocstheme | 21:48 |
| bmoss | awesome, thanks ianychoi | 21:49 |
| ianychoi | bmoss, it would be much nice if you +2 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449133/ | 21:49 |
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| bmoss | ianychoi, sure, I'll take a look | 21:49 |
| ianychoi | To really use new openstackdocstheme 1.7.0 in openstack-manuals | 21:49 |
| ianychoi | bmoss, thanks :) | 21:49 |
| ianychoi | I need to head out. Thanks all today! | 21:50 |
| bsilverman_ | later ianychoi | 21:50 |
| jrobinson | That's all for speciality teams, There is one more point on bug triaging then open discussion | 21:50 |
| bmoss | o/ | 21:50 |
| jrobinson | ianychoi, thanks, enjoy your vacation :) | 21:50 |
| jrobinson | #topic Bug Triaging | 21:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triaging (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:50 | |
| jrobinson | So, to complete the schedule for Pike, there are two more spots on the schedule to fill. More importantly, thanks everyone for getting on board. | 21:51 |
| jrobinson | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams#Bug_Triage_Team | 21:51 |
| jrobinson | Big thanks to iphutch for your bug triaging work! | 21:51 |
| jrobinson | Next up is loquacities from the 10th of April | 21:52 |
| jrobinson | And now to open discussion | 21:53 |
| jrobinson | #topic Open Discussion | 21:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 21:53 | |
| jrobinson | Anything to discuss openly? | 21:53 |
| jrobinson | If not, I'll close the meeting for this fortnight. | 21:54 |
| bmoss | short and sweet. Thanks jrobinson | 21:55 |
| jrobinson | bmoss, no problems | 21:55 |
| jrobinson | alright: | 21:55 |
| jrobinson | #endmeeting | 21:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 23 21:55:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2017/docteam.2017-03-23-21.00.html | 21:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2017/docteam.2017-03-23-21.00.txt | 21:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2017/docteam.2017-03-23-21.00.log.html | 21:55 |
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| jrobinson | Thanks everyone for attending today :) | 21:55 |
| bsilverman_ | thank you for playing Alex | 21:56 |
| jrobinson | lol only Alex can be Alex :) thanks bsilverman_ | 21:57 |
| bsilverman_ | :slightly_smiling_face: | 21:57 |
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