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edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 14:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
jaypipes | o/ | 14:00 |
edleafe | Good UGT morning! | 14:00 |
edleafe | Who's here? | 14:00 |
jaypipes | hola | 14:00 |
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alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
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edleafe | #topic Specs & Reviews | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Specs & Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:01 | |
edleafe | Claims in placement spec | 14:01 |
edleafe | #link placement doing claims: https://review.openstack.org/437424 | 14:01 |
edleafe | #link Forum session proposed for claims in the scheduler: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/63 | 14:01 |
* bauzas waves | 14:01 | |
edleafe | PS5 was posted on Friday | 14:02 |
bauzas | FWIW, I'm just updating the spec | 14:02 |
bauzas | and I did -W with the current consensus | 14:02 |
edleafe | Are we all agreed on how to handle overhead? | 14:02 |
bauzas | new revision should be in the next minutes | 14:02 |
edleafe | bauzas: ok, thanks | 14:02 |
edleafe | Anything else to discuss on this? Or should we do it on the new revision of the spec? | 14:03 |
alex_xu | I suggest an idea, but looks like you guys already get consistent | 14:04 |
cdent | edleafe: on thespec | 14:04 |
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edleafe | ok, moving on | 14:04 |
edleafe | os-traits | 14:04 |
edleafe | #link os-traits series: NIC traits and automation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448283/ | 14:04 |
jaypipes | yes pls :) | 14:05 |
edleafe | Looks like general agreement on these changes | 14:05 |
jaypipes | i need to chat with vladikr on that. | 14:05 |
jaypipes | it's just a misunderstanding I think about the traits vs. resources. | 14:05 |
edleafe | jaypipes: You mean the NIC stuff? | 14:05 |
jaypipes | ya | 14:05 |
edleafe | next up: Nested Resource Providers | 14:06 |
edleafe | #link Nested RPs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415920/ | 14:06 |
edleafe | jaypipes: got anything to say about this? | 14:06 |
alex_xu | there is still a patch for sync os-traits into placement db | 14:06 |
jaypipes | edleafe: still rebasing, sorry. will be going on top of the get_inventory() patches. | 14:06 |
edleafe | alex_xu: can you post that link? | 14:07 |
alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/450125 | 14:07 |
edleafe | thx | 14:08 |
alex_xu | np | 14:08 |
edleafe | Ironic testing for custom Resource Classes | 14:08 |
edleafe | #link Ironic custom RC tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443628/ | 14:08 |
edleafe | Several new PSs in the past few days. | 14:09 |
edleafe | It's on my list of reviews to-do | 14:09 |
edleafe | OK, I see that bauzas has posted the updated spec. Let's all hop on that after the meeting | 14:10 |
edleafe | Docs | 14:11 |
edleafe | #link Placement API ref https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:cd/placement-api-ref | 14:11 |
edleafe | Looks like some good progress on these | 14:11 |
bauzas | yup, good comments from jaypipes that I missed | 14:11 |
bauzas | a recheck could be nice also | 14:11 |
bauzas | now that the job creates the HTML files | 14:11 |
jaypipes | edleafe: unfortunately, Andrey is on PTO for next week or so. so, either me or cdent should push up changes. | 14:11 |
cdent | andrey is on vacation for a few more days, so if anyone wants to do some | 14:11 |
cdent | jinx | 14:12 |
jaypipes | heh | 14:12 |
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edleafe | Any other specs/reviews to discuss? | 14:13 |
jaypipes | don't think so | 14:13 |
edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:14 |
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edleafe | #link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement | 14:14 |
edleafe | Nothing new this week it seems | 14:14 |
edleafe | So let's move on to... | 14:14 |
edleafe | #topic Open discussion | 14:14 |
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edleafe | (don't everyone type at once!) | 14:15 |
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jaypipes | heh | 14:15 |
jaypipes | I've just been working on my slides for Boston recently... | 14:16 |
jaypipes | which has taken quite a bit of my time. | 14:16 |
jaypipes | but I should have them both finished up this week and able to make forward progress on the nested resource providers stuff. | 14:16 |
edleafe | Wish I could be there to harass you during the talk | 14:16 |
cdent | edleafe: send me prompts | 14:17 |
edleafe | ?? | 14:17 |
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cdent | to harass jaypipes | 14:17 |
edleafe | Didn't think you'd need them | 14:17 |
cdent | if you help, it will be twice as fun | 14:18 |
edleafe | Since it isn't live-streamed, you're on your own | 14:18 |
edleafe | So... short meeting today. Everyone back to what you were doing! | 14:18 |
edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:18 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 14:18:57 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:18 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-04-24-14.00.html | 14:19 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-04-24-14.00.txt | 14:19 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-04-24-14.00.log.html | 14:19 |
jaypipes | :) | 14:19 |
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ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 15:00:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:01 |
ihrachys | o/ | 15:01 |
ihrachys | anyone else? | 15:01 |
manjeets | 0/ | 15:01 |
ihrachys | ok we are two at least, let's run quick through what we have | 15:01 |
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ihrachys | #topic Linuxbridge grenade | 15:02 |
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ihrachys | I think kevinbenton had a reasonable lead as to why it may fail sometimes | 15:02 |
* ihrachys searches for the bug number | 15:02 | |
ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1683256 | 15:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1683256 in neutron "linuxbridge multinode depending on multicast support of provider" [Critical,New] | 15:02 |
ihrachys | which may also explain why manjeets saw it on a particular cloud | 15:03 |
ihrachys | there is no patch up for review yet, but at least we know a possible culprit. | 15:03 |
* manjeets looks at it | 15:03 | |
ihrachys | we can discuss that later if needed | 15:05 |
ihrachys | #topic Mixed server versions | 15:05 |
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ihrachys | due to recent changes in staffing, I decided I won't be able to make progress on /extensions convergence, so I abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451993/ and unassigned the RFE bug from myself | 15:05 |
ihrachys | I will instead spend time completing OVO transition | 15:05 |
ihrachys | later I may get back to it, but for now I will suggest we don't pursue this for Pike. | 15:06 |
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manjeets | ok, we can also work on ovo patches already up to get going | 15:07 |
ihrachys | if someone would like to poke it though, you are welcome (but note we have plenty of work on OVO side and others, like neutron-db-manage CLI) | 15:07 |
ihrachys | right. there is little sense to start new endevours if we struggle to close those already running | 15:07 |
ihrachys | #topic Object implementation | 15:08 |
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ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db | 15:08 |
ihrachys | I haven't checked those too much lately | 15:08 |
manjeets | may be we can track from Victor's spread sheet | 15:08 |
ihrachys | maybe, but let's have a look what's in the queue already that may be an easy target | 15:09 |
ihrachys | for one, metering should be close to completion: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433125/ | 15:09 |
ihrachys | needs a rebase/respin | 15:09 |
ihrachys | I will take care of that one | 15:09 |
ihrachys | #action ihrachys to respin metering OVO patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433125/ | 15:09 |
ihrachys | I also hear that router l3 agent binding should be ready: https://review.openstack.org/377074 | 15:10 |
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manjeets | Luijin luo was not osic is he gonna still keep up with his patches ? | 15:10 |
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ihrachys | manjeets, may you ask him in gerrit? or do you have other means to contact him? | 15:11 |
manjeets | I don't have will comment on his patch to figure out | 15:11 |
ihrachys | ok thanks | 15:11 |
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ihrachys | tonytan4ever, hi | 15:12 |
ihrachys | I see LIKE patch is stuck: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419152/ | 15:12 |
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ihrachys | would be nice to see it moving forward. or if you don't have spare cycles, we can see who can pick it up for you. | 15:12 |
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sshank | ihrachys: I tried the None filtering on object field. It works fine. I guess I was wrong. | 15:13 |
ihrachys | sshank, ok good to know. which patch was blocked due to that? | 15:13 |
sshank | I encountered that during floating ip ovo. But it is blocked by router ovo | 15:14 |
tonytan4ever | ihrachys: I will work on it this week | 15:14 |
sshank | Since the floating ip ovo depends on router ovo | 15:14 |
tonytan4ever | Last week is all sorta hectic finding new jobs. | 15:14 |
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ihrachys | tonytan4ever, yeah that's understandable. I wish you all gl with the new endevours. | 15:15 |
ihrachys | tonytan4ever, thanks for taking care | 15:15 |
ihrachys | #action tonytan4ever to respin LIKE patches | 15:15 |
ihrachys | I haven't had a chance to work on update_objects so no progress there | 15:17 |
ihrachys | tonytan4ever, another patch that you have is the dvr mac address object: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304873 | 15:17 |
ihrachys | have you had a chance to look at the gate failure? seems related. | 15:18 |
tonytan4ever | Yes, I will take care of that too. | 15:18 |
ihrachys | ok cool | 15:19 |
tonytan4ever | I haven't looked at it for a while though, but I will pick it up later today. | 15:19 |
ihrachys | I think code wise it was ready but gate breaks because of it | 15:19 |
tonytan4ever | yeah | 15:19 |
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ihrachys | I was looking through the Victor's documnet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FeeQlQITsZSj_wpOXiLbS36dirb_arX0XEWBdFVPMB8/edit#gid=1434170112 | 15:21 |
ihrachys | seems like apart from things currently in progress, we lack several crucial bits. specifically, we haven't made much progress on Networks/Ports/Routers/SGs (basically, all huge objects) since we landed object definitions in tree. | 15:22 |
ihrachys | some of them had patches in the past (or even respinned and on review right now) but lacked attention from reviewers and authors lately | 15:22 |
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ihrachys | we need to eventually shift the focus there | 15:23 |
ihrachys | I wanted to close the current smaller gaps before I get to the bigger pieces, but if folks have plans to take care of any of those, that's a good time to revisit the status of the patches and make them ready for reviews. | 15:23 |
ihrachys | next week we will revisit the document in some more detail | 15:25 |
ihrachys | #topic Other patches on review | 15:25 |
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ihrachys | there is something that, I realized, breaks ml2 rolling upgrades for all agents not in tree: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452009/ | 15:26 |
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ihrachys | thought it may be of interest to the group | 15:26 |
ihrachys | specifically, it breaks OVN rolling | 15:26 |
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ihrachys | oh we should also discuss the new CLI command for neutron-db-manage | 15:28 |
ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432494/ | 15:28 |
ihrachys | manjeets, I think you planned to have a look | 15:28 |
manjeets | ihrachys, sorry I was dragged into internal work last week | 15:29 |
manjeets | will review it in detail today | 15:29 |
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ihrachys | ok | 15:29 |
ihrachys | #action manjeets to take over neutron-db-manage CLI command for data migration | 15:29 |
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ihrachys | any other patches worth attention? | 15:30 |
manjeets | ovo for sg | 15:30 |
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ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284738/ ? | 15:30 |
manjeets | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284738/ | 15:31 |
manjeets | yes | 15:31 |
ihrachys | ok, I see that Victor was the last touching it. I guess we need to get a new owner for the patch. | 15:31 |
manjeets | i guess need to address kevin's comment on that and then it will be good | 15:32 |
ihrachys | this is one of the larger objects that may need special attention. not as huge as ports though. I am actually a bit surprized integration patch is not too long. | 15:32 |
manjeets | i'll see if i get cycles | 15:33 |
ihrachys | ok thanks | 15:33 |
ihrachys | #action manjeets to try craft out cycles for SG adoption patch | 15:33 |
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ihrachys | ok any other patches or topics to discuss? | 15:34 |
ihrachys | or I call it a day | 15:34 |
manjeets | mostly covered | 15:35 |
ihrachys | ok. we can discuss OVO adoption for larger objects in more details next week. | 15:35 |
ihrachys | thanks manjeets and others for joining | 15:35 |
manjeets | sure | 15:35 |
manjeets | thanks | 15:35 |
sshank | Thanks | 15:35 |
ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 15:35:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-04-24-15.00.html | 15:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-04-24-15.00.txt | 15:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2017/neutron_upgrades.2017-04-24-15.00.log.html | 15:36 |
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dave-mccowan | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 20:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
dave-mccowan | #topic roll call | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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kfarr | o/ | 20:01 |
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dave-mccowan | hi kfarr | 20:01 |
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kfarr | hey dave-mccowan! | 20:02 |
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dave-mccowan | The agenda is here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda | 20:03 |
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dave-mccowan | lots of review request. if no one else shows up, maybe we can use the time for code reviews. :-) | 20:04 |
kfarr | hehe good idea | 20:04 |
redrobot | o | 20:04 |
redrobot | o/ | 20:04 |
dave-mccowan | hi redrobot | 20:04 |
dave-mccowan | is there anything on pike status or summit status that we should cover now? | 20:06 |
dave-mccowan | let's use this time for code reviews then. | 20:07 |
dave-mccowan | i'll add my patch to the list. the py35 functional tests should be good to go now. | 20:08 |
dave-mccowan | https://review.openstack.org/453435 | 20:08 |
dave-mccowan | there's a couple more requests linked in the agenda. | 20:08 |
dave-mccowan | kfarr you have a few listed that are related... i'm not sure which one to start with. | 20:08 |
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diazjf | o/ | 20:15 |
diazjf | sorry meeting went over | 20:15 |
kfarr | dave-mccowan, this is the main one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400370/ | 20:15 |
kfarr | that one needs to go in first | 20:15 |
dave-mccowan | hi diazjf | 20:16 |
dave-mccowan | small group today, and a lot of people added review requests to the agenda... so we're using the time for code reviews. | 20:16 |
dave-mccowan | unless someone else has a topic to bring up for today. | 20:16 |
kfarr | these two are nice-to-haves: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436244/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437056/ | 20:16 |
diazjf | dave-mccowan, kfarr, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459135/ is the initial Certificate Orders removal. I will be adding the CAs removal once that is merged. | 20:18 |
diazjf | that way not some much code to review in 1 patch :) | 20:18 |
dave-mccowan | diazjf thanks! i'll take a look. | 20:19 |
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diazjf | dave-mccowan awesome thanks | 20:19 |
dave-mccowan | i'll trade you for: https://review.openstack.org/453435 :-) | 20:19 |
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diazjf | cool! Will take a look and add it to my list :) | 20:20 |
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dave-mccowan | thanks everyone... | 20:24 |
dave-mccowan | #endmeeting | 20:24 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 20:24:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:24 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-04-24-20.00.html | 20:24 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-04-24-20.00.txt | 20:24 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-04-24-20.00.log.html | 20:24 |
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Arkady_Kanevsky | Hello Product WG | 20:58 |
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pchadwick | Hi Arkady | 20:59 |
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GeraldK | hi there | 20:59 |
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leong | hi folks... | 21:00 |
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leong | #startmeeting product_working_group | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 21:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is leong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 21:00 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | I will be on for the first 1/2 hour | 21:00 |
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leong | #topic Rollcall | 21:00 |
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shamail | Hi everyone | 21:00 |
GeraldK | o/ | 21:00 |
leong | let's get the ball rolling | 21:00 |
pchadwick | o/ | 21:01 |
leong | who is here for Product WG meeting? :) | 21:01 |
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Arkady_Kanevsky | Arkady | 21:01 |
leong | #chair add shamail | 21:01 |
openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: add | 21:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: add leong shamail | 21:01 |
shamail | :-) | 21:02 |
leong | today agenda can be found here: | 21:02 |
leong | #link Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team | 21:02 |
leong | if you have any topics not listed in the agenda, feel free to bring it up! | 21:02 |
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leong | in general, today we want to cover more around Boston Summit and Forum | 21:02 |
AndyU | o/ | 21:03 |
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leong | any other agenda to add before i kick start the first one? | 21:03 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | For https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG-forum-planning - do we need a volunteer for each session? | 21:03 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | Of it iwll be handled by user WG and only subset will fall on us. | 21:03 |
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leong | #topic Boston Forum Planning | 21:04 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | We still need to convery to moderator about adding ## info. | 21:04 |
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rockyg | o/ | 21:04 |
leong | FYI, for those who are not aware, the approved list of forum sessions can be found here: http://forumtopics.openstack.org | 21:04 |
shamail | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/#track=146 | 21:05 |
shamail | This link is the online version of the accepted sessions for the Forum | 21:05 |
leong | as well as the link provided by shamail :) | 21:05 |
leong | +1 shamail | 21:05 |
leong | from the list of approved session, does anyone need help here? | 21:06 |
leong | especially those "moderator"? | 21:06 |
shamail | I am moderating https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18744/evolving-the-community-generated-roadmap with HeidiJoy | 21:06 |
leong | Arkady_Kanevsky: i will get back to your question real quick... | 21:06 |
shamail | We are good for this topic, I sent an email earlier today to invite TC and UC members | 21:06 |
leong | shamail: yes i saw that email ... | 21:07 |
AndyU | I plan to join that one | 21:07 |
rockyg | shamail, I could use help on the logging topics | 21:07 |
leong | i assume the rest of the moderator should also start "inviting" people to join the relevant sessions | 21:07 |
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shamail | rockyg: I saw that you didn’t confirm “moderator” for that one yet… I am going to be sending a reminder tomorrow to those who haven’t responded yet. Do you need to find a new moderator? | 21:08 |
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rockyg | No, I can moderate, but I'd love to have some backup there. | 21:08 |
leong | for moderator, we also encourage you to use the etherpad template | 21:08 |
AndyU | Rocky, Hank Greene (he was with us in Milan) would like to connect with you about the logging session | 21:08 |
leong | #link Forum Etherpad Template: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-moderator-template | 21:09 |
shamail | Gotcha rockyg | 21:09 |
shamail | Thanks AndyU, rockyg seems like you there is someone willing to co-moderate :) | 21:09 |
rockyg | Excellent. Either give him my email, or give me his. Looks like we have lost some of our implementers. | 21:10 |
shamail | AndyU: Please copy me as well so I can have him added to the session | 21:10 |
AndyU | How about if i send an email to Hank & Rocky to make the introduction? He wants to connect with Rocky and work on the logging stuff | 21:10 |
rockyg | Thanks for the template link leong | 21:10 |
AndyU | ok, I'll include Shamail | 21:10 |
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rockyg | Great! can use all the help I can get from somebody who understands the issues. | 21:11 |
leong | awesome | 21:11 |
AndyU | To be clear... I can't promise Hank will want to co-moderate (but probably) | 21:11 |
shamail | leong: The template looks great, I used it for the community roadmap session. I know the UC meeting was cancelled today but when you have time can you please reply to the email and let the UC members know about our template and plans? Once we notify the UC, we can forward it to the forum planning committee. | 21:11 |
rockyg | FYI, Doug Hellmann is working on a spec from a developer POV. I'll send out the link and some history to all interested. | 21:12 |
shamail | thanks rockyg | 21:12 |
leong | shamail: yes. i will do that after this meeting... | 21:12 |
shamail | leong: thanks | 21:12 |
leong | going back to Arkady's question: do we need a volunteer for each session? | 21:12 |
leong | Arkady_Kanevsky: i don't think we have enough manpower to cover every sessions | 21:13 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | agree. | 21:13 |
leong | there are nearly 70 forum sessions | 21:13 |
leong | i think that's part of the reason we propose to use the template and ##hashtag | 21:14 |
shamail | leong: Agreed, I think we just need to share the template and hashtag info | 21:14 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | Suggest we updated #hashtag guidance and send to each moderator for people to use in the session. | 21:14 |
leong | shamai: +1 | 21:14 |
MeganR | will any of the forum sessions be recorded? | 21:14 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | Do we have enouhg from 04/13 page for it? | 21:14 |
leong | Arkady_Kanevsky: for #hashtag guidance, there is a short description in the Template | 21:14 |
shamail | good question, I don’t think so but I can double check and let everyone know | 21:15 |
shamail | they are similar to ops and design sessions which normally were not recorded | 21:15 |
leong | Arkady_Kanevsky:I don | 21:15 |
MeganR | that's what I figured, but thought I would ask :) | 21:15 |
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leong | i don't get your question: Do we have enouhg from 04/13 page for it | 21:15 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | excellent. Thanks. | 21:15 |
* leong hit the cr key too fast... | 21:15 | |
Arkady_Kanevsky | Templates cover it. | 21:15 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | Who is going to send it to all moderators? Do we have email list for it? | 21:16 |
leong | #action Leong to email UC about Forum template and ##hashtag today | 21:16 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | Thanks Leong | 21:17 |
leong | Arkady_Kanevsky: once i email UC, i will forward to "forum planning committee" | 21:17 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | thanks | 21:17 |
leong | "forum planning committee" will then notify all moderators... | 21:17 |
leong | shamail: am i right? :) | 21:17 |
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rockyg | having major IRC delays here. 14:15:46 was last message received. I will get the messages eventuallym, but expect me to ve very asynch. | 21:19 |
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AndyU | Rocky, I just sent the email to you, Hank and Shamail about logging. | 21:20 |
leong | anything else for Forum sessions and preparation? | 21:20 |
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leong | are we all clear on the template and ##hashtag | 21:21 |
leong | in case you are not aware, we listed down a few "suggested/recommended" ##hashtag | 21:21 |
shamail | leong: +1 | 21:21 |
rockyg | thanks, AndyU | 21:21 |
leong | #link Hashtag definition: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-hashtag-definition | 21:21 |
leong | those definition are also included in the "etherpad template" | 21:22 |
AndyU | In our planning meeting we discussed an email to provide a quick reminder/overview of what the Forum is for all participants. i think Melvin was looking into that | 21:22 |
AndyU | I'm finding that many people (despite heroic efforts) still do not know what the Forum is, why, what to expect, how to pre-plan, etc | 21:23 |
leong | AndyU: i didn't recall that one? Is that something expecting from PWG? | 21:24 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | +1 AndyU | 21:24 |
Arkady_Kanevsky | need to drop. Will stay in the meteing to read later | 21:25 |
leong | I presume Tom/Forum-Planning-Committee will do that? and Shamail and Melvin also in that committee? | 21:25 |
rockyg | Yah. Transparency ain't great. I think because *nobod6y* is real clear on what is is/could be | 21:25 |
AndyU | Tips for moderators and participants might also be good. things like how to find the etherpad, review it, add items to it, reach out to people you want to attend and ask them to come, look for related presentations and reach out to speakers, ask speakers to mention the forum session, etc. | 21:26 |
AndyU | @Leong - we talked about it 4/20 and Melvin seemed to be taking notes, but no specific action items I think | 21:27 |
leong | ok.. you mean adding list of forum's session etherpads and instructions for moderators? | 21:28 |
leong | i will check with Tom/forum-committee | 21:28 |
shamail | What’s the question? | 21:29 |
leong | shamail: Tips for moderators and participants might also be good. things like how to find the etherpad, review it, add items to it, reach out to people you want to attend and ask them to come, look for related presentations and reach out to speakers, ask speakers to mention the forum session, etc | 21:29 |
leong | shamail: I presume Tom/Forum-Planning-Committee will do that? | 21:30 |
AndyU | instructions, tips, etc., but maybe one targeted at moderators and another as part of a general message about the Forum for everyone | 21:30 |
shamail | Yeah, spending this week making sure we have moderators for sessions | 21:30 |
AndyU | just a suggestion :-) | 21:30 |
shamail | next step is to enable moderators, which would be when we do all those things | 21:30 |
shamail | similar to ops meetup prep | 21:30 |
rockyg | Tom has a moderator's wiki page to point folks at. There was a youtube made about a year ago, too. | 21:31 |
leong | #link Forum wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | 21:31 |
leong | #link List of Forum sessions: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 | 21:32 |
AndyU | Yep, good resources. | 21:33 |
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shamail | good links | 21:33 |
leong | ok.. anything else to discuss for Boston Forum ? | 21:33 |
leong | #topic Boston BoF | 21:34 |
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leong | The BoF date/time is: Wednesday, May 10, 5:20pm-6:00pm | 21:34 |
AndyU | I'm just guessing that less than 1% of attendees know what an ops meetup is like. They probably have no experience to draw from to really get a sense for what the Forum sessions are supposed to be like. Moderators are probably fine. Thinking of general attendees | 21:34 |
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leong | Shamail wil be moderating the BoF now | 21:35 |
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shamail | that will be a general growing pain AndyU, first forum… | 21:35 |
AndyU | true | 21:36 |
leong | AndyU: yes.. the community is learning..:) | 21:36 |
shamail | developers and ops will know the format but users will experience it for the first time. | 21:36 |
shamail | There is an intro session on the first day | 21:36 |
leong | shamail: anything to discuss for the BoF? | 21:36 |
AndyU | oh that's right. That's good! | 21:36 |
shamail | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18793/forum-101-previously-design-summit-101 | 21:36 |
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shamail | leong: working on the deck this week, I hope to have it ready for team review by next meeting | 21:37 |
leong | shamail: awesome, thanks, let me know if need help. | 21:37 |
shamail | thanks | 21:37 |
leong | #topic PWG Boston Working Session | 21:37 |
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leong | The PWG working session date/time is: Wed 10 , 2:40pm-3:20pm | 21:37 |
shamail | #info New PWG working session date/time is: Wed 10 , 2:40pm-3:20pm | 21:38 |
leong | Please note the "time changed" in case you previously saved that in your calendar | 21:38 |
AndyU | The working session originally conflicted with LCOO's. Now they're been adjusted to follow each other. | 21:38 |
leong | i think both are now in the same room... | 21:39 |
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leong | #link PWG Boston Working Session: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG_Session_May2017_BOS | 21:39 |
leong | this is the etherpad that we created previously.. i am wondering if we should also adopt the "forum template" :) | 21:40 |
AndyU | Might present an opportunity for PWG to help LCOO find focus | 21:40 |
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leong | we only have 40 mins for the working session, if you have any agenda, please add to it.. | 21:41 |
GeraldK | leong: +1 | 21:41 |
shamail | leong: +1 | 21:41 |
GeraldK | for adopting the template | 21:41 |
leong | i will change that then :-) | 21:41 |
leong | meanwhile if you have any agenda, please add to it.. | 21:41 |
leong | we need to make the best use of 40-mins for things that need F2F discussion | 21:42 |
leong | #action leong to update the PWG Working Session etherpad to "forum template" | 21:42 |
leong | one key topic of discussion in the Working Session is the "post-forum analysis" | 21:43 |
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leong | #action all please suggest agenda for Working Session, especially topics that need F2F discussion | 21:44 |
leong | let's move on to next topic.... :) | 21:45 |
leong | #topic Roadmap | 21:45 |
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leong | #info Roadmap session: Monday, May 8, 2:50pm-3:30pm | 21:45 |
leong | #link Community roadmap session: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17775/whats-going-on-in-openstack-learn-about-the-community-generated-roadmap | 21:46 |
shamail | HeidiJoy has sent out a questionnaire to PTLs and we have recieved a few responses already… she has been converting the responses into slide format. We will leverage the slides she is creating to build the roadmap. | 21:47 |
shamail | pchadwick said that he has availability to help with the creation as well… | 21:47 |
leong | AndyU also mentioned to me that he would like to help... :) | 21:47 |
* pchadwick still says that | 21:48 | |
shamail | Kenny won’t be at the summit so I am going to update the presenters to HeidiJoy, pchadwick, and I is everyone is okay with that | 21:48 |
leong | shamail: +1 | 21:48 |
pchadwick | +1 | 21:48 |
shamail | I think at this point, we will need help after the summit when we use the project updates to build the roadmap refresh following the summit. | 21:48 |
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rockyg | +1 | 21:48 |
shamail | The short runway at this point probably works best to just churn through the updates… I will make sure to include everyone on the draft for feedback/analysis and suggestions | 21:49 |
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AndyU | At the mid-cycle there was talk of also asking for a production readiness assessment, like should something be considered 'beta'. Will that be included? | 21:49 |
leong | shamail: maybe that can be a quick discussion for Working Session agenda? | 21:49 |
shamail | not in this release AndyU, we will bring that up in the “evolving the community generated roadmap" | 21:50 |
AndyU | And YES, I would like to help ;-) | 21:50 |
AndyU | ok just wondering | 21:50 |
shamail | You should def. be there as we will be sharing the recommendations we put together at the midcycle with the broader community to see which changes everyone agrees with | 21:50 |
AndyU | I definitely plan to join | 21:51 |
shamail | thanks AndyU | 21:51 |
leong | #link Evolving Community Generaged Roadmap forum session: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18744/evolving-the-community-generated-roadmap | 21:51 |
shamail | That’s all I have on the roadmap at this point. | 21:51 |
leong | shamail: thanks | 21:51 |
leong | #topic Progress of renaming user-story to development proposal | 21:51 |
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leong | i think we had made some good progress to rephase the term | 21:52 |
rockyg | I think it's done | 21:52 |
shamail | leong: +1 | 21:52 |
rockyg | Although, now we should verify | 21:52 |
leong | and thanks all for the help! | 21:52 |
AndyU | well done | 21:52 |
leong | there are still few minor changes need to be updated/tweaked | 21:52 |
rockyg | Thanks, leonnng | 21:52 |
leong | #link latest repo: https://github.com/openstack/development-proposals | 21:53 |
GeraldK | I guess after the update of the repo, we may need to do some final changes in the Wiki. I could check tomorrow | 21:53 |
leong | existing changes need to rebase and align with the changes (e.g. directory structure changes) | 21:53 |
leong | geraldk: awesome! thanks for checking that :-) | 21:54 |
shamail | Thanks GeraldK | 21:54 |
GeraldK | #action Gerald to check Wiki for updates links to new repo | 21:54 |
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leong | #action GeraldK will review the wiki for the user-story/development-proposal rephrased | 21:54 |
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leong | lol... thanks geraldk | 21:55 |
AndyU | readme.rst: "The rendered user stories are available in OpenStack User Stories." ;-) | 21:55 |
leong | good catch AndyU | 21:55 |
shamail | low-hanging-fruit :) | 21:55 |
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AndyU | the tastiest | 21:55 |
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leong | #info to be changed: readme.rst: "The rendered user stories are available in OpenStack User Stories." | 21:56 |
leong | great work team! | 21:56 |
leong | #topic Open | 21:56 |
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* shamail sneaks out… has another meeting in 4 min | 21:56 | |
leong | 4 mins left for opens :) | 21:56 |
AndyU | just need to update the file in general; minor stuff | 21:56 |
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leong | btw, i will be submitting a presentation to OpenStack Days China to talk about Product WG, in mandarin | 21:57 |
leong | #info OpenStack Days China (July 24-25, Beijing) : http://openstackdaychina.org/ | 21:57 |
MeganR | long: that's fantastic! | 21:57 |
AndyU | I want the youtube link when you're done | 21:57 |
leong | i hope that can draw more membership/participants from other regional countries | 21:57 |
AndyU | Awesome :-) | 21:57 |
leong | anyone any open? | 21:58 |
leong | looks like we are good? | 21:59 |
AndyU | +1 | 21:59 |
leong | thank you all! | 21:59 |
MeganR | thank you! | 21:59 |
leong | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 22:00:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-04-24-21.00.html | 22:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-04-24-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-04-24-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
GeraldK | thanks and bye | 22:00 |
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jeblair | hi zuul folks? | 22:00 |
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* mordred waves to jeblair | 22:01 | |
pabelanger | o/ | 22:01 |
jlk | o/ | 22:01 |
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mordred | we just caled the AC repair people because the AC wasn't working. problem? the door wasn't closed on the furnace blower thing | 22:02 |
jeblair | #startmeeting zuul | 22:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 22:02:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:02 |
jlk | mordred: Shut the front door! | 22:02 |
jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:03 |
jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-04-17-22.03.html | 22:03 |
jesusaur | o/ | 22:03 |
clarkb | hello | 22:03 |
jeblair | jlk has a time constraint and has requested that we talk about the github topic which i put on the agenda first | 22:04 |
jeblair | #topic Github patches | 22:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Github patches (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:04 | |
jlk | Hi, thanks. | 22:04 |
jlk | So, github patches. | 22:04 |
jlk | There is a series of them, the topic is 'github-v3' | 22:05 |
SpamapS | o/ | 22:05 |
* SpamapS made it back | 22:05 | |
jlk | These are mostly cherry-picked from the zuul 2.5 patch series to add github support. I've massaged them to fit into v3 as best I could. | 22:05 |
jlk | The first 10 or so pass tests after being rebased on some recent v3 changes, the rest are in progress of being rebased | 22:06 |
* SpamapS notes that jlk is excellent at massaging the pythons | 22:06 | |
SpamapS | careful though, they bite. :) | 22:06 |
jlk | and I think there's another 5 or so from BonnyCI's fork of zuul that have yet to be brought into gerrit. | 22:06 |
jeblair | we've been deferring review of them so that we could focus on getting the bulk of the fundamental zuulv3 changes (many of which affect how these should operate) in place first | 22:06 |
jeblair | jlk and SpamapS asked me if maybe we could consider whether it's time to take a serious look at merging these soonish | 22:07 |
jeblair | and i think now is a good time | 22:08 |
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* mordred agrees | 22:08 | |
SpamapS | \o/ | 22:08 |
jlk | I agree as well :D | 22:08 |
jeblair | i think the major things that would impact it are out of the way now | 22:08 |
jlk | I look forward to the feedback, and will be quick to respond. | 22:08 |
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jeblair | (we're certainly not done with v3, but i don't think these are blocked on anything major anymore) | 22:09 |
jlk | These may also shed light on places where model.py is too gerrit specific, so some things may need to move out into driver space, which I'm also happy to do work on. | 22:09 |
jlk | ditto scheduler. | 22:10 |
jeblair | i took a high-level look at them, and they generally look like they fit in pretty well; i think that merging them won't be a major distraction at this point. | 22:10 |
jlk | (and now I have to skeedaddle, so my son doesn't have to wait in the school office. My client will keep logging) | 22:10 |
jeblair | i'm signing up to review them; if anyone else is interested, let me know and i'll make sure we know to watch for your reviews | 22:11 |
jeblair | (or, you know, just start reviewing if you want :) | 22:11 |
jeblair | i'll start reviewing the early ones while jlk continues the large rebase underway | 22:12 |
SpamapS | There are some (not)fun github-isms that don't mesh well to the way OpenStack uses Gerrit+Zuul.. but most of them are handled well in Zuul's model AFAICT. | 22:12 |
SpamapS | One just has to use Github differently than one uses Gerrit. | 22:12 |
SpamapS | which is not surprising. :) | 22:12 |
jeblair | SpamapS: yeah, though a lot maps over with sufficient abstraction. | 22:12 |
mordred | SpamapS: as a person who has yet to find great ways to use github, it might benefit me to have a really high-level paragraph or somethign which describes the workflow/differences ? | 22:13 |
SpamapS | mordred: the biggest thing is that "reviews" are a new beta feature of github | 22:13 |
SpamapS | and they've got some very strong opinions | 22:14 |
SpamapS | one of which we strongly disagree with | 22:14 |
mordred | yah. the "votes are sticky" one? | 22:14 |
SpamapS | but basically.. when you push -f over your source branch for a PR, they do not dismiss positive reviews | 22:14 |
SpamapS | They're committed to that. | 22:14 |
mordred | wow relaly? | 22:14 |
mordred | they think that's not a bug? | 22:14 |
SpamapS | They've noted that we're not alone in reporting it as a bug. | 22:14 |
jeblair | many people will enjoy abusing that. | 22:14 |
SpamapS | No they think it's a feature. | 22:14 |
mordred | wow | 22:14 |
jeblair | i'll note that gerrit has that feature. it's just (sensibly) off by default. | 22:15 |
SpamapS | Zuul can enforce the review<->sha bond.. but that feels like zuul imposing things on github. | 22:15 |
SpamapS | also you cannot review your own PR | 22:15 |
SpamapS | so there's no self-approve without something like a magic label. | 22:16 |
jeblair | SpamapS: generally speaking, if we can find a way to let zuul operators/users *choose* to enforce something, i think that's in scope. | 22:16 |
SpamapS | jeblair: Agree. We've put that one down as "let's warn users and see how they feel about adding it as a feature" | 22:16 |
jeblair | SpamapS: (to be more concrete, if it could be implemented as, say, a pipeline requirement of "review==sha" or whatever would seem sensible) | 22:17 |
SpamapS | But the events from github match well enough with events from gerrit... it's still just repos.. and there are refs for things.. there's not too much to change in the core now. | 22:17 |
jeblair | then you can choose to have that req or not | 22:17 |
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SpamapS | jeblair: yeah that's how I'd want it. | 22:17 |
jeblair | yeah, i got about 75% of the way through the stack before i started having thoughts like "let's rethink this..." | 22:18 |
jeblair | anyone else want to say anything on this topic? | 22:20 |
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jeblair | well, i'm excited. thanks jlk for putting up with all the rebasing and doing such excellent massaging. i know mordred will be thrilled when we can start reporting on ansible PRs. i will be too. :) | 22:22 |
mordred | \o/ | 22:22 |
jeblair | i'm going to continue to run this meeting backwards... | 22:22 |
jeblair | #topic Bubblewrap | 22:22 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bubblewrap (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:22 | |
jeblair | i mostly just wanted to check in and see what the (infra?) blockers are for bubblewrap | 22:22 |
jeblair | something about packaging... | 22:22 |
mordred | fwiw - I put a topic on tomorrow's infra meeting related to "where do we stick debian packages" | 22:22 |
SpamapS | ubuntu backports, I think, is effectively stalled | 22:22 |
jeblair | mordred: oh cool, so that (can be?) in service of bubblewrap | 22:23 |
mordred | and ppa's seem hosed, at least they did not build anything for vhd-util | 22:23 |
SpamapS | Simplest way to get bwrap into Xenial would be a PPA. | 22:23 |
mordred | jeblair: yah - we have 2 things we need in infra potentially that are not in our upstream repos at the moment - vhd-util on xenial and now bubblewrap | 22:23 |
SpamapS | PPA's what? | 22:23 |
mordred | SpamapS: it would - if ppas were building things | 22:23 |
SpamapS | #ohmy | 22:23 |
SpamapS | That's a very bad sign. | 22:23 |
mordred | SpamapS: I uploaded a new source pacakge for xenial to the vhd-util ppa | 22:23 |
mordred | and nothing happened | 22:24 |
mordred | I mean, it accepted it | 22:24 |
jeblair | but in a mongodb sort of way? | 22:24 |
SpamapS | PPA builders take a back seat to the OS builders | 22:24 |
SpamapS | so it may have been queued | 22:24 |
pabelanger | Ya, shouldn't be too hard to get a bublewrap repo setup for repreprp in openstack-infra | 22:24 |
pabelanger | if we want to do that path | 22:24 |
SpamapS | since they just opened artful | 22:24 |
SpamapS | lots of rebuilds | 22:24 |
mordred | SpamapS: it doesn't even show as queued | 22:24 |
SpamapS | mordred: link? | 22:25 |
mordred | SpamapS: there are literally no records in launchpad | 22:25 |
mordred | SpamapS: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ci-core/+archive/ubuntu/vhd-util | 22:25 |
SpamapS | yeah wow | 22:25 |
clarkb | I was thinking about doing our own repo and wondering if maybe it made more sense to use nix? | 22:25 |
mordred | well, I mean, that would require retooling literally everytihng we do | 22:25 |
mordred | but sure? | 22:25 |
clarkb | then in theory we'd have packages that would work on centos fedora, ubuntu ,debian gentoo etc | 22:25 |
SpamapS | nix? | 22:26 |
clarkb | mordred: no it wouldn't nix is different than nixos | 22:26 |
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SpamapS | Oh | 22:26 |
mordred | oh | 22:26 |
mordred | I thought you were suggesting moving to nixos | 22:26 |
SpamapS | well he is | 22:26 |
mordred | which, I mean, I'm game for crazy things | 22:26 |
clarkb | no I'm talking abuot nix | 22:26 |
clarkb | basically just the package manager | 22:26 |
clarkb | which apparently works quite well alongside other package managers in distros? | 22:27 |
clarkb | since its all self contained and magical | 22:27 |
mordred | well - I think this is honestly a grea topic for tomorrow's infra meeting | 22:27 |
SpamapS | it's a bit aggressive. | 22:27 |
mordred | I think today's zuul meeting status is "bubblewrap is stalled pending resolution of where to stick bubblewrap" | 22:27 |
mordred | yah? | 22:27 |
jeblair | yeah, that is a good takeaway | 22:28 |
SpamapS | I could also push harder and try to get xenial-backports upload rights | 22:28 |
jeblair | #info starting to review/merge github patches | 22:28 |
SpamapS | and we could also ./configure ; make ; sudo make install bwrap ;-) | 22:28 |
pabelanger | what about standing up a fedora zuul-executor for now? until we figure out ubuntu packages? | 22:28 |
jeblair | #info bubblewrap is stalled pending resolution of where to stick bubblewrap package | 22:28 |
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SpamapS | pabelanger: need to test brwap | 22:29 |
jeblair | pabelanger: unit tests are still a concern | 22:29 |
SpamapS | bwrap | 22:29 |
SpamapS | so we'd need a fedora test job | 22:29 |
SpamapS | which isn't a bad idea btw | 22:29 |
SpamapS | but.. then do we have ZK? | 22:29 |
pabelanger | ya, we have fedora-25 in the gate | 22:29 |
pabelanger | yes, zookeeper for fedora | 22:29 |
pabelanger | I've been using it to test zuulv3 roles | 22:29 |
jeblair | that's good to keep in mind as an option. let's see where we go in the infra meeting, and if the answer is "it will be some time before we have it available in infra", then we can add a fedora job and push forward on implementation. that would only block infra rollout. | 22:30 |
pabelanger | k | 22:30 |
mordred | ++ | 22:30 |
jeblair | #info a fedora25 test job is an option for testing bubblewrap | 22:31 |
jeblair | anything else we should discuss here? | 22:32 |
SpamapS | the implementation I already did has probably bitrotten | 22:32 |
SpamapS | but feel free to review it | 22:32 |
mordred | SpamapS: I believe in your implementation | 22:32 |
SpamapS | https://review.openstack.org/453851 | 22:32 |
SpamapS | https://review.openstack.org/453852 | 22:32 |
jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/453851 is bwrap implementation; does not pass tests but is ready to review | 22:33 |
jeblair | #topic Status updates: Zuul test enablement | 22:33 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Status updates: Zuul test enablement (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:33 | |
jeblair | i don't think we enabled many tests recently, though we did go and make them faster | 22:34 |
SpamapS | yeah we're yak shaving around the last few tedious/complex tests | 22:34 |
jeblair | clarkb is continuing looking into some issues as well | 22:34 |
SpamapS | I truly believe the weird optimizatoin problem with python in xenial is the issue. | 22:34 |
SpamapS | but there may be some interactions too | 22:35 |
clarkb | ya I'm working on cleaning up the thread leaks | 22:35 |
jeblair | are there any test enablement patches that are in need of review? | 22:35 |
clarkb | I've got apsched leaks fixed I think but that causes configuration verification to afil? is voluptuous introspecting Driver and Connections? | 22:35 |
jeblair | clarkb: yes | 22:36 |
clarkb | I'm also working to narrow down kazoo thread leaks (looks like they start in test_openstack) | 22:36 |
SpamapS | I haven't seen any test re-enablements come in lately | 22:36 |
clarkb | separately I've got broken yappi profiling and use cStringIO stuff. I'll try to make sense of it all and psuh a stack of changes | 22:36 |
SpamapS | 15 @skip's left | 22:37 |
jeblair | that reminds me we can probably drop test_openstack now; it was mostly a demonstration. but obviously after clarkb uses it to track down what he's seeing. | 22:37 |
SpamapS | ah yeah, well covered in the others most likely | 22:38 |
clarkb | oh there are also gearman leaks somewhere too, the code I've got to debug thread leaks should help me track them all down | 22:38 |
clarkb | basically modified the if >1 thread then log error code to also log all the threads and their stacktraces | 22:38 |
jeblair | clarkb: ah, thanks. wondered what you were doing there :) | 22:38 |
clarkb | then set .testr.conf OS_LOG_CAPTURE to 0 | 22:39 |
clarkb | so that logs are captured unconditionally | 22:39 |
jeblair | anything else on this? | 22:39 |
jeblair | #topic Status updates: Zuul sample jobs | 22:40 |
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jeblair | pabelanger: have you started up the executors again? | 22:41 |
jeblair | er, executor. single. :) | 22:41 |
pabelanger | I wanted to confirm still good to do that, if so, was planning on today | 22:41 |
jeblair | pabelanger: yeah, i think after installing branch tip (remember that's still manual), should be fine. | 22:42 |
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pabelanger | okay, I'll do that after our meeting. Have some jobs I'd like to start testing again. | 22:42 |
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jeblair | cool | 22:43 |
jeblair | #topic Progress summary | 22:43 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Progress summary (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:43 | |
jeblair | i don't think much is changing here atm | 22:45 |
jeblair | there's lots of tasks available if folks are interested. i think it's generally correct. | 22:45 |
jeblair | #topic Open discussion | 22:46 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:46 | |
pabelanger | zuul package for fedora landing hopefully this week :) | 22:46 |
jeblair | pabelanger: neat! | 22:46 |
pabelanger | next up will be nodepool | 22:47 |
jeblair | we've had lively discussions in #zuul today related to log streaming (which Shrews is working on implementing) | 22:47 |
jeblair | i should probably copy some of that into a story | 22:48 |
jeblair | thanks everyone! | 22:50 |
jeblair | #endmeeting | 22:50 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:50 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 22:50:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:50 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-04-24-22.02.html | 22:50 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-04-24-22.02.txt | 22:50 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-04-24-22.02.log.html | 22:50 |
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