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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May  3 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting'14:00
devkulkarnizhurong_phone: hi14:01
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zhuronghi devkulkarni14:02
devkulkarnizhurong: hi14:02
devkulkarnilets wait for about a minute to see if anyone else joins in14:02
zhurongsure14:03
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devkulkarnialright, lets begin14:04
devkulkarniso the main topics for today are Boston summit preparations14:04
devkulkarnihow are things coming along on your side?14:05
devkulkarniis your travel plan finalized?14:05
zhurongyep, I had order the plane14:05
zhurongAnd I will go to Austin after the summit14:05
devkulkarnicool14:06
devkulkarniwhen do you reach Boston?14:06
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devkulkarnireally?? when are you going to be in Austin? Is it for work visit or pleasure?14:07
zhurongwe will arrive at 5.614:07
zhurongsome work visit14:07
devkulkarniyou mean, you will be in Austin on May 6th?14:08
devkulkarniand then go to Boston from Austin?14:08
zhuronggo to Austin after summit14:09
devkulkarniah I see14:09
devkulkarniso on May 6th you reach Boston14:09
devkulkarniI see.14:09
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devkulkarnilet me know when you are in Austin. We can meet14:10
zhurongI will go to austin at 5.1314:10
devkulkarniah!14:10
devkulkarnihow long are you going to be in Austin?14:10
devkulkarniI am traveling to Dallas on 13th14:10
devkulkarnishould be back by 13th night14:11
zhurongwill left at 5.1814:11
devkulkarnioh nice!14:11
devkulkarniin that case we can meet on one of the evenings on 15th, 16th, or 17th14:11
zhurongsure, if not so far :D14:12
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devkulkarnino worries.. Austin is not that big. and if you are visiting here all the way from China then there is no reason not to meet :)14:12
devkulkarniI will check if vijendar might be interested in joining as well14:13
devkulkarniyou just let me know which evenings would be good for you and then I will plan a dinner14:13
devkulkarnion one of the evenings14:14
devkulkarnialright, lets discuss about the summit14:15
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devkulkarniWe have two presentations:14:15
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devkulkarni1) Monday 11:15 am - 12:45 pm is project on-boarding14:15
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zhurongmy pool English may can not talk conversation14:15
devkulkarni2) Thursday 9:50 am - 10:30 am is project update14:16
devkulkarniI would say not to worry about that14:16
devkulkarniwe will prepare slide decks for both14:16
devkulkarnisimilar to how you did it in Barcelona14:17
devkulkarniwhat say?14:17
zhurongsure, sounds good14:17
devkulkarnigreat!!14:17
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devkulkarnifor project on-boarding, we should cover following things:14:18
devkulkarni- Give high-level overview of the project14:18
devkulkarni- Talk about use-cases14:18
devkulkarni- Then talk about high-level architecture14:18
devkulkarni- Dive deep into the code structure14:18
devkulkarni- Talk about Horizon14:18
devkulkarnithat was my idea14:19
devkulkarniis there anything that I am missing?14:19
zhurongthere are 90 mins, that's a long time14:19
zhurongI totally agree with your idea14:19
devkulkarniyes, but first 30 mins or so will go in you presenting above things14:19
devkulkarnianother 30/40 minutes will go in looking at the code14:20
devkulkarnido you have a working VM? If so, you can also give a demo which will take about 10 minutes14:20
devkulkarniI think 90 minutes will fly by14:20
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devkulkarniand even if you are done early, that is fine14:21
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devkulkarnialso, it will all depend on how many participants come to the session14:21
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devkulkarnidoes this make sense?14:21
zhurongyep14:22
devkulkarnicool14:22
devkulkarniso, from the above list of things, which are the ones that you think we should discuss before you leave for Boston?14:23
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devkulkarniif you want to spend some time discussing about code structure, we can do that14:23
zhurongAnd I forget to fill in the form14:24
devkulkarnithat is fine. we can work on that as well14:24
devkulkarnithe form was for the Thursday presentation14:25
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devkulkarnilets look at the form right now14:26
devkulkarniok, so once we fill in the form they will send us a template in 24-48 hours14:27
devkulkarnithat is good14:27
devkulkarniso we don't have to worry about a template14:27
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devkulkarnibtw, looks like they have also given a template14:28
devkulkarnithe template looks very useful14:29
zhurongyep, the dropbox14:29
devkulkarniyep14:29
devkulkarnilet me do this.. I will fill out the template today and send it to you14:29
devkulkarniduring your day tomorrow you can look at it14:29
devkulkarniI am guessing that you are leaving from China on Friday14:30
devkulkarniis that correct?14:30
zhurongthat's will be very helpfull14:30
devkulkarniof course14:30
devkulkarniI will also put together the slide deck for on-boarding session14:30
devkulkarniI will have both of them prepared today so that you will have them tomorrow morning14:30
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zhurongI will leave on Saturday morning14:31
devkulkarniah I see14:31
devkulkarniok that is good actually14:31
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devkulkarniso you have Thursday and Friday, of course I understand that you have to prepare for travel as well14:31
zhurongand some office works :(14:32
devkulkarniwhat I would suggest is, at least spend some time looking through Solum service side code - atleast high level14:32
devkulkarniI can understand14:32
devkulkarnibefore you start your travel if we can go over the code a bit, you will feel prepared for the project on-boarding session14:33
devkulkarniwe might also get some time on Sunday after you have reached Boston14:34
devkulkarniprovided you are not heavily jet-lagged14:34
zhurongyep, I will  looking through the code before Friday14:35
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devkulkarnibtw, do you have a working Solum VM? just in case if anyone wants to get a working setup?14:35
devkulkarnicool, that will be good14:35
zhurongyep, I will prepare a devstack env in my VM14:35
devkulkarnithat way we can discuss it on Friday and then again on Sunday if require14:35
devkulkarnirequired14:35
devkulkarniawesome !!14:35
devkulkarnihaving a devstack VM in which you can demo CLI and/or Horizon will be very useful14:36
zhurongyep, my PC have 16G memory, I use 8G for the devstack14:37
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devkulkarnithat is good to konw14:37
devkulkarniknow14:37
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devkulkarniso I guess preparing for these two presentations is the main thing for us14:38
devkulkarniah one more thing14:38
devkulkarniwhen you are in Boston, see if you can touch base with Hong Bin14:39
devkulkarnialso, with any other folks that you think might be interested in Solum14:39
devkulkarnithat reminds me, have you checked this April's OpenStack survey?14:39
devkulkarnihere it is: https://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April2017SurveyReport.pdf14:40
zhurongsure, we are all Chinese, It's convenient for us to communicate14:40
devkulkarninice!!14:40
zhurongyep, I saw the survey14:40
devkulkarniSolum has 21% interest for adoption14:41
devkulkarnithat is very good14:41
zhurongyes14:41
devkulkarnihopefully you might be able to meet some of those who are interested14:41
zhurongI hope so14:42
devkulkarniwhat is your organization's plan? you can show them this survey and try to convince them to join in14:42
zhurongseems they have no plan to do this :(14:43
devkulkarniI see14:43
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devkulkarniin any case, if you meet anyone at Boston who you think might be interested in contributing, that will be good14:44
zhurongyep, we need more contributors14:45
devkulkarniyeah14:46
devkulkarnilets hope you can find some interested folks at Boston14:46
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zhurongyeah14:47
devkulkarnionce you become PTL, you can also try to get more attention to the project by presenting at venues close to you14:47
devkulkarnialright.. anything else on your mind today that we should discuss?14:48
zhuronghopefully :)14:48
zhurongseems nothing from my sider14:48
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devkulkarniok14:49
devkulkarniin that case we can stop today. I will work on the presentations today and send them to you.14:49
zhurongthanks14:49
devkulkarniplease set aside some time before you travel to go through the presentation and also to look through the code14:49
devkulkarniwe can then discuss14:49
devkulkarnicool14:50
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zhurongyep, I think so14:50
devkulkarnialright then, I will end the meeting now14:50
zhurongthanks devkulkarni14:50
devkulkarnithanks zhurong14:50
devkulkarnilets keep in close sync for next couple of days14:51
zhurongsure14:51
devkulkarniI know you will have great time at the summit14:51
devkulkarnigood night14:51
devkulkarni#endmeeting14:51
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Swamihi15:00
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haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed May  3 15:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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haleyb#chair Swami15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: Swami haleyb15:01
haleyb#topic Announcements15:01
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Swamihaleyb: Let us have a short meeting today, probably need to touch base with you on the summit slides.15:02
haleybSummit is next week, time to focus on getting our talk done :-o15:02
haleybsure, we don't have much on the agenda i think15:02
haleyb#topic Bugs15:02
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Swamihaleyb: I agree, let us try to add some content to the slides. I tried adding some, but I need to add some pictures too.15:02
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:03
SwamiI did not see any new bugs for this week.15:03
SwamiDid you see anything new that is not tagged with l3_dvr_backlog15:03
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haleybNo, nothing new15:03
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Swamihaleyb: I did see that you have reviewed the fast-path-exit patch. Thanks15:04
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Swamihaleyb: I need to address some review comments on the allowed_address_pair patch.15:04
haleybyes, just that one nit, but think it's fine15:04
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Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437970/15:04
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SwamiWas not able to spend much time upstream, because of in house work.15:05
haleyblooks like we need to update the wiki with the new reviews for address pairs, i can do that after meeting15:06
Swamihaleyb: sure15:07
Swamihaleyb: which wiki are you talking about.15:07
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haleybhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-DVR15:08
haleybit has pointers to the abandoned reviews15:08
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Swamihaleyb: Oh I got it.15:09
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Swamihaleyb: I don't have anything else on the bugs.15:09
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haleybok15:10
haleyb#topic Gate15:10
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haleybgate looks fine for DVR, so nothing to talk about here15:12
haleyb#topic Stable15:12
Swamihaleyb: fine. I like it.15:12
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haleybwhere there any stable backports that needed attention?15:12
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456780/ this is failing jenkins still. I also did a rebase on it.15:12
Swamihaleyb: This is the only one I have.15:13
haleyblooks to still be the same bug it's failing on15:14
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haleybSwami: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461828/ was just proposed to stable/newton, so need to wait for that15:16
Swamihaleyb: ok got it.15:17
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haleyb#topic Open Discussion15:17
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haleybanything else, or we can just end and move onto summit slides15:18
Swamihaleyb: nothing more. We can move on to the summit slides15:18
haleybi guess i can send an email about no meeting next week, but there's only the two of us15:18
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haleybok, i'll end it15:19
Swamihaleyb: sure.15:19
haleyb#endmeeting15:19
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rkukurahi ML2’ers!16:00
tbachmanrkukura: hi!16:00
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rkukuratrevormc, dasanind: Are you here for ML2?16:01
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trevormco/16:01
rkukuraI don’t see Sukhdev or sadasu16:01
trevormcrkukura: Hi, I just had a question on the rfe for the sr-iov api extension.16:02
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rkukuradoesn’t seem we really have quorum for an ML2 meeting today16:04
rkukuratrevormc: What’s the question?16:05
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rkukurahi sadasu - probably no official meeting today16:05
trevormcrkukura: The NIC functionality I want to add is for managing BUM traffic but there is also a proposition for such functionality here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/TrafficProtection16:06
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sadasurkukura: thanks..was wondering about that16:06
rkukuratrevormc: I hadn’t seen that16:07
trevormctraffic protection didn't get implemented, but should I implement it?16:07
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trevormcI created the table changes here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455445/ but I just need to pass these values to the NIC for my RFE16:07
trevormcso to anyone not using the NIC it just looks like a bunch of random flags being set16:07
* tbachman sees that wiki page was last edited in 201416:08
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trevormcdrivers meeting didn't like that and suggested I move the vf_policy object parts for filtering traffic to security groups.16:08
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trevormctbachman: yeah its old, I was wondering if some other alternative has came about as well but I didn't see anything.16:09
trevormcI was planning on using iptables -m pkttype --pkt-type <cast type> to enforce the security group rules16:09
rkukuratrevormc: your approach makes sense to me16:10
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trevormcrkukura: I just don't like how we want to TCP offload these features and I have to implement them in software too :(16:11
rkukuratbachman: good catch on the age of that proposal16:11
trevormci guess thats normal.16:11
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rkukuraideally, wouldn’t we define one API that different mechanism drivers / agents would enforce different ways - offload vs. iptables vs. whatever?16:12
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trevormcrkukura: Yeah I believe we can modify the sriov-nic-agent to do that based on the linux tools it uses.16:13
rkukuratrevormc: will you be at the summit next week?16:14
trevormcrkukura: yes I will :)16:14
trevormcI have a presentation on this feature, Need for Speed: SR-IOV and DPDK16:14
rkukuraGood - will try to catch that, as long as its not on Monday16:15
trevormcits not16:15
rkukuraI’m not sure I have any specific guidance on the API question16:15
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trevormcI think the drivers team needs to digest the RFE more, they asked me to split up the RFE and I'm not sure if that makes sense.16:16
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trevormcrkukura: thanks, for the input on iptables16:16
rkukuraI wish I had more insight into the drivers team’s feedback you’ve been getting, but I have not been following that closely enough16:17
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trevormcyeah its a pain how slow they groom16:18
trevormcor rather, the number they have to groom is large16:18
rkukuratrue16:18
rkukuraBest bet is to corner the right person/people at the summit16:19
trevormcyep, well I didn't have anything else to say16:19
rkukurasorry I wasn’t more help16:19
rkukurasee you next week16:19
trevormcno problem, see you next week o/16:20
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timsim#startmeeting designate17:03
openstackMeeting started Wed May  3 17:03:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
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timsim#topic Roll Call17:03
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sonuko/17:03
hieulq_o/17:03
timsimAnyone around mugsie kiall trungnv hieulq  sonuk17:03
trungnv_o/17:03
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timsimProbably a quick'n today17:04
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timsimI don't see any bugs...17:04
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timsimno action items...17:05
timsimNothing to backport...17:05
timsim#topic Open Discussion17:06
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timsimI'll just open it up17:06
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timsimmugs and I will be at the summit next week.17:06
trungnv_regard to my BP about rolling upgrade17:06
timsimHope to see some folks there.17:06
timsimSure trungnv_ go ahead17:06
sonuktimsim: i will be there too at the summit17:06
trungnv_this week, we have a holiday until yesterday. thus I have just some update about code base in my repo.17:06
hieulq_timsim me too, hope to see you there17:07
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timsimDefinitely come to the project update on Monday17:07
hieulq_sure17:07
sonukyeah sure17:08
trungnv_I have some issues for new objects which coded via OVO. I am trying to get best solution for it.17:08
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timsimtrungnv_: If you can distill it into something that we can review, we'd be happy to take a look, that's certainly going to be hard. I'm with Graham on that you probably won't actually be able to use ovo, but rather will have to replicate the behavior.17:10
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trungnv_I understand what you say. But I think I believe my codes will be working...17:11
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timsimFair enough.17:12
timsimAnything else specific we'd like to discuss on this (or anything else) today?17:12
timsimGraham (mug_sie) isn't able to join today.17:12
trungnv_nope.17:12
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trungnv_I need more time to complete this issue.17:13
timsimCool, last call for discussion then!17:13
trungnv_perhaps couple week.17:13
timsimcool17:13
timsimShortest meeting ever going once....17:13
trungnv_thanks17:14
timsimtwice!17:14
timsim#endmeeting17:14
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timsimThanks all, see you soon!17:14
timsimNext weeks meeting will probably be cancelled FYI trungnv_ with everyone in Boston17:14
trungnv_yep.17:15
trungnv_my colleague going to meet you at Boston.17:15
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May  3 20:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
johnsomHi folks!20:00
xgermanO/20:00
nmagnezio/20:00
johnsomMaybe I can summon rm_work to this channel...20:01
rm_worko.20:01
rm_worko/20:01
johnsomgrin20:01
johnsom#topic Announcements20:01
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johnsomThe summit is next week.  I plan to cancel the weekly meeting20:02
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johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-pike-summit20:02
johnsomThat is an etherpad with our talk details and a list of folks (not attending in this case).20:02
rm_workkk20:02
johnsomThe week of the 15th and 22nd I will be on vacation and likely in and out of cell service20:03
johnsomDoes someone want to volunteer to run the IRC meetings or should be cancel those too?20:03
rm_workeveryone in 'not attending' gets frowny faces20:03
rm_workI'll also be out that week20:04
johnsomYes, frowny faces are appropriate20:04
johnsomThat is two weeks actually20:04
rm_workI'll be at *another* conference20:04
xgermanI am in the week after the summit but then out two weeks 5/19-6/220:04
rm_workah k20:04
rm_workwell, week after Boston summit, I'm at an internal conference thing20:04
xgermannice!20:04
johnsomOk, so maybe we should skip a few20:04
rm_workbut will be back after that20:05
rm_workwhen does the final Pike release freeze happen?20:05
johnsom#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html20:05
johnsomPike-2 is June 0520:05
rm_workmost importantly maybe, feature freeze20:05
rm_workI REALLY want to get single-create / cascade-delete in20:05
rm_workfor Pike20:05
rm_workOK20:05
rm_workwell20:05
rm_workwe'll be kinda cramped for time I guess with everyone in and out20:05
rm_workbut hopefully we can do it20:06
johnsomFeature freeze for Octavia is Jul 24th20:06
johnsomPike-320:06
rm_workaaah ok20:06
rm_workexcellent20:06
rm_worksomehow I always thought the conference lined up with a release20:06
rm_workbut i guess not20:06
johnsomIt did until the PTG happened20:06
rm_workahh20:06
rm_workok20:06
johnsomPike release is now Aug 28th20:07
rm_workok, until July is great, we should be able to 100% wrap up APIv2 in Octavia20:07
johnsomYES!20:07
xgermanfamous last words20:07
rm_workumm, do we also need to start looking at the driver shim stuff again?20:07
johnsomExcept maybe the vendor driver support....  But, hey, we made huge progress20:07
rm_workI assume people will ... want that20:07
rm_workyeah lol20:07
johnsomYeah.  I'm pretty much expecting we will not have providers in Octavia V2 API until Queens20:08
rm_workI wish I could help look at that, but I think the internal goodwill for me working pretty much 100% upstream recently is about to dry up20:08
johnsomGiven the huge drop in contributors20:08
rm_workand it's a lot harder to tie that to our use cases here20:08
xgermanindeed -20:09
johnsomI had hoped we had some vendors that were interested in working on that, but...20:09
rm_work:/20:09
nmagnezijohnsom, maybe f5? m-greene?20:09
rm_workis kobis still around?20:09
xgerman*hoping*20:09
johnsomOk, so other announcements, the systemd as default in devstack happened.  Joy20:09
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johnsomAlso, the uwsgi goal we JUST finished is now a moving target.....20:10
johnsomThe py35 goal is pretty much done except for having voting gates (lbaas)20:10
rm_workwe have voting gates (octavia), no?20:11
johnsomAny other announcements?20:11
johnsomrm_work yes, we have the octavia gates voting, but you wanted to hold off on lbaas20:11
rm_worki'd say it's done20:11
rm_workwhy do those matter20:11
rm_workthat project is dead20:11
johnsomYeah, um, not technically yet....20:12
rm_workalso for the record, i'm glad we held off, because with the roving VM build errors (OVH acting up again?) the more voting scenarios we have, the worse the recheck-hell gets20:12
rm_workas it is, we have to recheck about 1/3 of the changes that we try to merge20:12
rm_workwith yet more scenarios that'd be like 2/320:12
johnsomYeah, OVH is a problem.  I'm don't know why some of their hosts work and some libvirt crashes20:12
johnsomMaybe we get "creative" and make them voting, merge the "goal complete" then switch them back....20:13
rm_worklol20:13
rm_worki don't think anyone is watching that closely anyway20:13
rm_worki'm still not sure why those would even matter20:13
johnsomHey, life changes in the openstack world20:13
rm_workwe have py3x gates20:13
rm_workin octavia20:14
rm_workthey vote20:14
rm_workand the py3x gates in neutron-lbaas vote *in neutron-lbaas gates* so20:14
rm_workhow is this a problem20:14
johnsomWell, I can try and see what we get for feedback.20:14
rm_worki think the fact that we co-gate at all with n-lbaas is generous20:14
johnsomrm_work they don't vote in neutron-lbaas20:14
rm_workif it were up to me i'd just remove them from octavia20:14
rm_workwait really?20:15
johnsomHmm, maybe we should do that, make them vote over there20:15
rm_workyeah why wouldn't they vote on their own project, lol20:15
johnsomWell, the same reason we didn't have octavia voting.  Tons of other projects breaking us20:16
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johnsomHa, now that is interesting.  The global requirements change didn't pass pep8...  lol  This place will drive me crazy some day.....20:16
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462111/20:16
johnsomOk, maybe I will move forward with voting in neutron lbaas20:17
johnsomThat seems "fair"20:17
rm_workthen when they start break and no one fixes them because no one cares about neutron-lbaas, we can finally admit it is dead :P20:17
johnsomOye, some eager beaver: N537  Log messages should not be translated!20:17
rm_worklol they're trying to ENFORCE THAT now?20:18
rm_workseriously20:18
johnsomGreat, another housekeeping project, go fix those crapy log change patches20:18
rm_workthey can't just let us choose20:18
johnsomEvidently20:18
nmagnezijohnsom, maybe this will resolve the issue (I have not looked at the code) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447921/20:18
nmagnezi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447921/20:18
johnsomYeah, those patches need some work....20:19
johnsomThey were just global replacements that broke a bunch of stuff20:19
johnsomWell, heck, throw one more cleanup on the pile....20:19
johnsomWe have uwsgi, the stable branch issues, and now this20:19
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johnsomI guess my afternoon is booked.20:19
nmagnezisorry about that :)20:20
nmagneziif it was not a bit late for me i would tackle those log translation issues20:20
johnsomnmagnezi Ah well, I signed up for this.... grin20:20
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johnsomrm_work maybe I should not sign up for the stats patch.  Maybe I should leave that up to someone with time and do this stuff and try to get back to the api-ref20:21
johnsomOk, moving on...20:22
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:22
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johnsomI have been doing developer training for some new folks interested in working on Octavia.  So hopefully some new faces soon.20:23
rm_workI've got Single-Create and Cascade-Delete ready for review...20:23
johnsomOtherwise it's been trying to track down some devstack problems I was having and doing reviews....20:23
rm_workSingle-Create: https://review.openstack.org/45903220:23
rm_workCascade-Delete: https://review.openstack.org/46118220:23
xgermanworked on presentations, smaller stuff20:24
johnsomYeah, I will get back to that too.  The devstack issues screwed up my testing for that20:24
rm_workTrying to fix stable gates for newton20:24
rm_workand a small direction vote: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461344/20:24
johnsomSame, worked on the 101 presentation and the project update presentation.20:24
rm_workalso Pagination is ready for eyes / testing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382147/20:25
johnsomrm_work should we remove "vote" from the commit message?20:25
rm_workI have it on top of single-create20:25
rm_workah maybe20:25
xgermanworked on lab presentation and soms small stuff20:25
rm_workI guess maybe it's less of a vote? dunno20:25
johnsomI think we vote with gerrit20:25
rm_workjohnsom: right, that's why it says vote :P20:25
rm_workjohnsom: did we decide if i could remove the tenant_id stuff already tho? lol20:25
rm_workit was deprecated in like20:25
rm_workLiberty20:25
johnsomYeah, I think sort / pagination is working  I tested it.  I just want to test the single-call stack with it and call it good.20:25
johnsomWhere are we at with filters?20:26
rm_workI have to start it20:26
johnsomOk20:26
rm_workI really wanted to get the big stuff I have sitting merged first though20:26
rm_workbefore I start yet another thing20:26
rm_workthat'd be on the end of the chain20:26
johnsomWas it REALLY liberty????20:26
rm_workI am pretty sure20:26
johnsomWhen I looked it gets removed in R20:26
rm_workumm20:26
johnsomHmm, not sure now, R seems wrong20:27
rm_workAh it was deprecated with keystone v320:27
rm_workor rather, when keystone v2 was deprecated20:27
rm_workwhich WAS icehouse20:27
rm_workbut the deprecation was reverted20:27
rm_workand re-deprecated in Mitaka20:28
johnsomYeah, it was newer than that20:28
nmagnezire-deprecated.. lol20:28
johnsomYeah, I guess it can get pulled20:28
nmagnezigotta love openstack.20:28
rm_workso M20:28
rm_workso N/O and P is good :)20:28
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rm_workI'll make that changeeeeee20:28
* rm_work is excite20:28
johnsomPlease put a release note in for that20:28
rm_workok20:29
johnsomnmagnezi how is tripleo coming?  Is that all merged now?20:29
rm_workI am super super pleased that we'll be tenant_id-less tho20:29
johnsomYeah, I HATE it too20:30
rm_worki know nmagnezi still has some o-hm cleanup patch pending20:30
nmagnezijohnsom, I was OOO most of this week (and also for the rest of this week), but I'll try to push something to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460524/ tonight (which is now, my time)20:30
nmagnezijohnsom, I hope to wrap this up next week at most20:31
johnsomOk, cool20:31
xgerman+!20:31
nmagnezijohnsom, we deployed Octavia with tripleO and ran all scenario and api tests, which passed OK20:31
xgermanwere wndering if we can announce in BOS — guess we better skip ;-)20:31
nmagneziso we are in a good shape20:31
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xgermanmaybe we can mention it…20:31
nmagnezixgerman, up to you :)20:32
johnsomIs there a link to some docs for the tripleo stuff?20:32
nmagnezixgerman, If anything changes before the summit I can ping you for that20:32
xgermanok20:32
nmagnezijohnsom, I think so, I'll have to check with beagles20:32
johnsomOk, if someone can forward I can advertise a bit20:32
johnsom#topic Boston Summit planning20:32
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nmagnezi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447496/20:32
nmagnezijohnsom, xgerman ^20:33
johnsomSpeaking of, anything more we need to discuss for the summit?20:33
johnsomI think we need to put together a deck for the main LBaaS talk20:33
rm_workwho is on what20:33
xgerman+120:33
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rm_workis it just me and xgerman on everything?20:33
xgermanyep20:33
rm_workwe have ... 3 talks and a lab still? or just 2 talks and a lab?20:34
xgermanwe will throw a coinf before each talk20:34
johnsom3 talks and a lab20:34
xgermanI think 3 talks + lab20:34
nmagnezii will look forward for the recordings :-)20:34
* johnsom sounds like a band20:34
rm_workugh I'm not looking forward to this part... i'm starting to get sick too, i think (seriously)20:35
rm_workhopefully will not impact my ability to speak20:35
johnsomI hope you don't play a Doug on German20:35
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xgerman+120:35
rm_workT_T20:35
johnsomcough, cough, ugh I can't do the talk, I will just watch....  My welcome to summit presenting20:35
johnsomgrin20:36
johnsomOk, so LBaaS talk slides...20:37
johnsomI can work on all the code "stuff" or start a deck for that20:37
xgermanyeah, sound sgood20:37
rm_workdid someone confirm how many talks we have?20:37
rm_worki disconnected briefly20:37
xgermanI can throw in some OSA stuff20:37
johnsomrm_work three talks, one lab20:38
rm_workugh k20:38
rm_worki thought we decided one of the talks was kinda redundant20:38
xgermanwell, it’s only one talk per day?20:38
johnsomThe project update talk is going to be easy20:38
rm_workk20:38
johnsomNo, one day has two20:38
xgermanyeah, redundant. = practice20:38
rm_work>_<20:38
johnsomAt least I got them to move them so they weren't back-to-back20:39
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xgermannice!20:39
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:40
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rm_workjohnsom: is removing tenant_id a ... deprecation?20:40
rm_workor a feature? :P20:40
rm_worki think it was ALREADY a deprecation, right?20:40
rm_workbut does it fit under that category again now?20:40
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johnsomYeah, that is awkward isn't it.  I would say either of those or "other"20:41
rm_workk20:41
johnsomI guess deprecation can just say, timer expired, this is history20:41
johnsomha20:41
johnsomI'm going to skip the API thing again (it wasn't on the agenda for today20:42
xgermanyep20:42
johnsomEvidently there is more info on the systemd stuff here:20:43
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461716/2/doc/source/development.rst20:43
rm_workthere's GOT to be a way to get logs working properly20:43
rm_workwoot: https://review.openstack.org/46134420:43
johnsomAny other topics for today?20:43
nmagnezinothing on my end20:44
m-greene_apologies for being off-grid for several weeks.  I saw my nick referenced in my scrollback history, but not sure the context20:44
nmagneziI'll keep you posted if the ovs cleanup patch makes progress before the summit20:45
rm_workk20:45
xgermank20:45
m-greene_something about hoping a vendor would contribute20:45
rm_workyes :P20:45
rm_workthe provider work in octavia20:45
xgermanyeah, we were talking about the shim/plugin layer20:45
rm_workso vendor drivers are possible20:45
m-greene_I trying to line up GUI dev from my team starting next quarter20:45
rm_workvendors know best what they're looking for20:45
m-greene_(octavia GUI, missing L7 wizard, etc.)20:45
johnsomAh, GUI help would be great20:45
rm_workyes20:45
xgerman+1020:45
m-greene_we’re in a tough spot though right now… I only have 4 devs active20:46
rm_workyeah, i think basically everyone is feeling the same pain currently :(20:46
xgerman:-(20:46
rm_workalright, we pretty much done?20:47
rm_workabout to be boarding I think20:47
johnsomm-greene_ I assume they are not working on OpenStack20:48
johnsomYeah, I think we are pretty close to wrapped up for the week.20:48
xgermanhow long are we skipping now?20:48
johnsomReminder, I think we decided no meetings for the next three weeks20:48
xgermanyeah, sounds good —20:48
rm_workok20:48
johnsomI will send out an e-mail20:48
nmagneziack20:48
rm_worksounds good to me20:48
m-greene_I have 6 technical reports, with 2 temporarily re-allocated.  Of my 4, 1-2 are usually handling hot customers cases… :(20:48
xgermank20:49
johnsomm-greene_ yeah, understood20:49
m-greene_but it’s 4 on OpenStack20:49
xgermancustomers… it’s always them20:49
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johnsomm-greene_ I just want to make sure they aren't working on something that they don't have assigned as we have some people coming on that may be picking up some stuff.  I just don't want duplicate work20:50
johnsomOk, I think that is it.  Safe travels to the  Summit folks!20:51
johnsom#endmeeting20:51
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