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| IgorYozhikov | o/ | 12:01 |
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| jpena|lunch | o/ | 12:03 |
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| IgorYozhikov | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 12:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 12:04:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is IgorYozhikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 12:04 |
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| IgorYozhikov | #chair IgorYozhikov toabctl jpena | 12:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: IgorYozhikov jpena toabctl | 12:05 |
| toabctl | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof | 12:05 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's spend some time on agenda | 12:05 |
| dirk | hey | 12:05 |
| toabctl | hey | 12:05 |
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| jruzicka | o/ | 12:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | so let's start | 12:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | # topic - pbr as discussed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465918/ | 12:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic - pbr as discussed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465918/ | 12:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- pbr as discussed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465918/ (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:09 | |
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| IgorYozhikov | I uploaded commit and saw that some of dependencies are not found | 12:09 |
| IgorYozhikov | so I can disable %check because most of them are required by tests | 12:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | according to test-requirements | 12:10 |
| IgorYozhikov | your thoughts colleagues? ^^^ | 12:10 |
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| dirk | IgorYozhikov: I just fixed the suse ci bits | 12:11 |
| IgorYozhikov | I saw, you are swift :) | 12:11 |
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| jpena | I'll need to add some stuff to the RDO CI, we always assumed a git repo in the openstack namespace, and pbr is openstack-dev | 12:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes, I saw issues in dlrn job | 12:13 |
| jruzicka | if test requirements aren't available, disabling %check until they are sounds OK to me | 12:13 |
| IgorYozhikov | so, I'll cover test stuff with %if_with tests, ok? | 12:14 |
| dirk | jpena: IgorYozhikov : ah, I misse dthat, maybe we want to move it to openstack-dev subdir on rpm-packaging? | 12:15 |
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| IgorYozhikov | dirk, not a problem | 12:15 |
| jpena | no, I can fix it without too much trouble | 12:15 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'll move it into openstack-dev | 12:15 |
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| IgorYozhikov | if necessary | 12:15 |
| dirk | I think it would be more consistent but I'm not sure it would actually work out of the box without some hammering on the CI | 12:18 |
| dirk | I can take a look at that | 12:18 |
| IgorYozhikov | 2 questions: 1) should I disable tests? 2) move to openstack-dev folder? | 12:19 |
| jpena | I'll patch the simple case (keeping it under openstack/), then we can look at the more complex | 12:19 |
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| IgorYozhikov | colleagues ? | 12:27 |
| IgorYozhikov | I asked 2 questions and want to understand my next steps | 12:27 |
| jpena | IgorYozhikov: I'd say yes to 1, but wait for 2 | 12:28 |
| dirk | +1 | 12:28 |
| toabctl | +1 | 12:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok | 12:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | yey! | 12:28 |
| toabctl | :) | 12:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's move forward | 12:28 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic - singlespec | 12:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- singlespec (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:29 | |
| IgorYozhikov | toabctl, is this your topic ^^^ ? | 12:30 |
| toabctl | hm. I did not add it. is it from last week? | 12:30 |
| toabctl | or maybe from dirk? | 12:30 |
| IgorYozhikov | during previous meeting we discussed it | 12:30 |
| dirk | sorry I added it | 12:30 |
| dirk | I just felt reminded again because of the pbr review | 12:31 |
| dirk | because in the SUSE distro we already converted pbr to singlespec, so it would not be upstreamable unless we decide to switch to it | 12:31 |
| dirk | I think the action item was jpena to talk to number80 , did that happen? | 12:31 |
| toabctl | and there are requests from the opensuse community to provide packages which are singlespec'ed | 12:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | ok we decided to use it but with if cases | 12:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | let's listen our RH colleagues | 12:31 |
| IgorYozhikov | jpena, jruzicka ^^^' | 12:32 |
| * jpena still waiting for input from the elders | 12:32 | |
| dirk | jpena: could you ask for input a bit more? | 12:34 |
| jpena | dirk: yep, I will | 12:34 |
| dirk | thanks a lot ! :) | 12:34 |
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| jpena | btw, https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/7978 should fix the RDO CI for the pbr review | 12:39 |
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| IgorYozhikov | +1 | 12:42 |
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| dirk | next ? | 12:43 |
| IgorYozhikov | yes | 12:43 |
| jpena | yes | 12:43 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic - packages reviews (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/rpm-packaging+status:open ) | 12:43 |
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| toabctl | I don't think there is anything special in the queue... | 12:50 |
| cousin_luigi | Greetings. I hope this is not invitation-only. | 12:50 |
| toabctl | cousin_luigi, it is not. hey :) | 12:50 |
| IgorYozhikov | :) | 12:50 |
| IgorYozhikov | #topic - OpenFloor | 12:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "- OpenFloor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:51 | |
| cousin_luigi | toabctl: I wanted to talk about that suggestion I had made some time ago about dealing with singlespec. | 12:51 |
| cousin_luigi | I wrote something on the launchpad page too, but it must have been the wrong place. | 12:51 |
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| toabctl | cousin_luigi, where is the suggestion? | 12:51 |
| cousin_luigi | In short: for the python modules that cannot be unified, I recommend adding a Provides: python2-%pypi_name, at least for opensuse. | 12:52 |
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| cousin_luigi | toabctl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rpm-packaging/+bug/1690199 <- was this the wrong place? | 12:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690199 in rpm-packaging "Add python2- provides to spec files" [Undecided,New] | 12:52 |
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| cousin_luigi | I tried doing it myself but I failed. I couldn't understand much about the internal workflow. | 12:53 |
| IgorYozhikov | dirk, does singlespec provides something similar? | 12:54 |
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| IgorYozhikov | cousin_luigi, we just discussed singlespec and need to wait for feedback from RH side | 12:56 |
| IgorYozhikov | to ensure that we can use it | 12:56 |
| cousin_luigi | IgorYozhikov: Glad to hear that! | 12:57 |
| dirk | IgorYozhikov: yes, singlespec automatically generates the python2- provides | 12:57 |
| dirk | cousin_luigi: I remember the discussion we had a few days ago, thanks for bringing that up again. I forgot about it | 12:57 |
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| dirk | any objections to us adding a macro or some other way of providing python2-* for all thepackages? | 12:57 |
| dirk | that would unblock the SUSE singlespec efforts somewhat | 12:57 |
| dirk | while we haven't decided whether or not to adopt that | 12:58 |
| jpena | dirk: do you have the python_provide macro? We're using it in Fedora | 12:58 |
| dirk | no, whats that? | 12:58 |
| IgorYozhikov | I'm fine and Fedora already uses provides py2 | 12:58 |
| * jpena searches | 12:58 | |
| jpena | dirk: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python#The_.25python_provide_macro | 12:59 |
| dirk | jpena: if that does the job, then lets add it to the suse amcros. I'll make sure that we'll transpire it into opensuse then | 12:59 |
| jpena | you can use it like: | 12:59 |
| jpena | %{?python_provide:%python_provide python2-%{srcname}} | 12:59 |
| toabctl | time over... | 13:00 |
| jpena | and it provides python-xyz and python2-xyz for the pkg | 13:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | yep | 13:00 |
| dirk | jpena: I'll take a look at that, thanks for pointing it out | 13:00 |
| dirk | jpena: can you post a review? | 13:00 |
| jpena | dirk: for the macro? Sure, I will | 13:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | good! | 13:00 |
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| IgorYozhikov | let's proceed at our channel | 13:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | #endmeeting | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 13:00:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-05-18-12.04.html | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-05-18-12.04.txt | 13:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-05-18-12.04.log.html | 13:01 |
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| szaher | #startmeeting freezer | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 14:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is szaher. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:01 |
| szaher | Hello everyone | 14:01 |
| szaher | Let's wait 5 minutes for everyone to join | 14:01 |
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| m3m0 | o/ | 14:04 |
| szaher | m3m0: Hi m3m0 | 14:04 |
| szaher | The meeting agenda can be found here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:05 |
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| raliev | hey guys :) | 14:06 |
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| szaher | raliev: Hi Ruslan | 14:07 |
| szaher | How was your holidays ? | 14:07 |
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| raliev | great, I was in Turkey :) | 14:08 |
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| vnogin_ | hi guys | 14:08 |
| szaher | very good :) hope you like it | 14:08 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Hey Vitaly | 14:08 |
| raliev | yep :) | 14:08 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: hi Saad ) | 14:08 |
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| szaher | so guys please take a look here first https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings then we can start | 14:09 |
| szaher | if you want you can add as many topics as you want | 14:09 |
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| szaher | so let's start ? | 14:11 |
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| raliev | yep | 14:11 |
| szaher | #topic Summit recap | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit recap (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:11 | |
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| vnogin_ | btw, who is Elena? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8phin9J3-0U&feature=youtu.be :) I see patch from here | 14:11 |
| szaher | I've been to OpenStack summit in Boston, It was great experience to be with everyone else | 14:12 |
| szaher | vnogin_: I'll explain :) | 14:12 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: cool ) tnx) | 14:12 |
| szaher | I had a very good insights about freezer | 14:12 |
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| szaher | people were asking me what do we have now and what's gonna be next | 14:12 |
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| vnogin_ | szaher: we have got "message" from you from our booth:))) | 14:12 |
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| szaher | vnogin_: Yes, I went to you booth and I ask the guys to say hi to you :) | 14:13 |
| szaher | I had some meetings with some public cloud providers and they're interested in using freezer in production | 14:13 |
| szaher | they might need our help at the beginning to use it and in return they're going to sponsor some freezer activities and some advertising for freezer :) | 14:14 |
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| vnogin_ | szaher: awesome news | 14:15 |
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| szaher | I did freezer on boarding session with George (Ericsson) and Elena from Ericsson as well | 14:15 |
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| szaher | Elena did again the demo that Julia have done before with a little bit more features (nova, cinder, rsync, tenant) backups and restore | 14:16 |
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| szaher | it was actually very good to show people that we have all these features | 14:17 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: I haven't see her in our co-dev team :( | 14:17 |
| szaher | vnogin_: yet she is not OpenStack dev :) | 14:18 |
| raliev | vnogin_, because you didn't attend in last meetings with George :) | 14:18 |
| szaher | anyway you can find the presentation over here https://www.slideshare.net/saad_asd49/openstack-backup-restore-dr-freezer | 14:18 |
| vnogin_ | raliev: szaher I see :) | 14:18 |
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| szaher | and you will find a link to the demo in the presentation | 14:18 |
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| vnogin_ | cool, thx | 14:19 |
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| szaher | some people from Redhat attended the session and the feedback was great. They promised to contribute to freezer very soon | 14:19 |
| szaher | and they'll be doing the freezer packaging for us ( for redhat OS) | 14:20 |
| szaher | I think they will use freezer in their own distro at some point :) | 14:20 |
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| jiaopengju02 | we have purpose to use freezer or some other openstack project to optimize our backup process, so I'm testing it. | 14:22 |
| szaher | I had also some discussions with different people about OpenStack Doctor ( a new project people want to launch to provide fault management in OS ) I mentioned we do have freezer-dr which can be used and there is actually a plan for it to grow and to be used for DR between 2 different OS | 14:22 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Which Company do you work for ? | 14:22 |
| szaher | Redhat ? | 14:22 |
| jiaopengju02 | szaher: ChinaMobile | 14:22 |
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| szaher | jiaopengju02: Very Good :) I mentioned that you guys are working on Freezer as well :) ( doing some dev and I wasn't sure about how much are you using it ) | 14:23 |
| jiaopengju02 | It depends on my testing | 14:25 |
| szaher | I had a chat also with people from Fujitsu and they will test freezer to be used on their cloud as well :) | 14:25 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Let's hope it's good enough to be used :) | 14:25 |
| jiaopengju02 | yeah | 14:26 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: You can send us your feedback, It will be great anyway to give us some feedback | 14:26 |
| jiaopengju02 | jiaopengju02: I will do that | 14:26 |
| szaher | anyway it was a very chance to be in the summit, to talk to people, to let people know more about freezer :) | 14:27 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Thanks :) | 14:27 |
| szaher | I think that was it pretty much :) | 14:27 |
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| szaher | Any questions ? | 14:28 |
| szaher | move on ? | 14:28 |
| jiaopengju02 | ok | 14:28 |
| vnogin_ | + | 14:28 |
| szaher | #topic Announcements: nominate (vnogin) Vitaly as core freezer member | 14:29 |
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| szaher | Well, vnogin_ is doing great job out their on freezer, he is contributing to freezer, review as much as he can the code in freezer. I can see a lot of effort has been done recently by vnogin_ in freezer so I think this is the right moment to nominate him as a core dev | 14:31 |
| szaher | he recently fixed the centos gate job, working freezer puppet and hopefully soon will be working on freezer ansible :) so it's really appreciated | 14:32 |
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| szaher | your votes are appreciated +1 if you agree or -1 if you don't agree | 14:32 |
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| m3m0 | +1 | 14:33 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02 ? raliev ? | 14:33 |
| raliev | +1 from my side | 14:33 |
| jiaopengju02 | +1 | 14:33 |
| vnogin_ | Thanks guys, I am very pleased. Thank you for your trust in me :) and yep, let's start with ansible :)) | 14:33 |
| raliev | good work, vnogin_ :) | 14:34 |
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| szaher | +1 from slashme as well :) | 14:34 |
| vnogin_ | raliev: thanks Ruslan :) | 14:34 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: cool, thanks a lot :) | 14:34 |
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| szaher | vnogin_: With great power come great responsibility, I'll send an email to OpenStack mailing list then will do it either this week or may be early next week :) | 14:35 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Congratulations! :) | 14:35 |
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| vnogin_ | szaher: THANKS! :) I'll do my best to make freezer much better :) | 14:36 |
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| vnogin_ | m3m0: szaher raliev jiaopengju02 slashme Thanks for all of you guys :) | 14:37 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Hope to see you soon in the core dev as well :) | 14:37 |
| szaher | Also dstepanenko: :) | 14:37 |
| szaher | dstepanenko: :) | 14:38 |
| vnogin_ | yep :) | 14:38 |
| jiaopengju02 | szaher: I will try my best | 14:38 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Thanks :) | 14:38 |
| szaher | Ok, Let's move on ? | 14:39 |
| szaher | #topic Installation docs | 14:39 |
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| szaher | As you know now we have a new contributor, Elena, She is really motivated to work on the installation docs of freezer and may be contributing to freezer later on ... | 14:40 |
| szaher | I think she will take care of it and hopefully we can get something before the end of Pike and we can publish it upstream | 14:41 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: We have been waiting for her for so long :) | 14:41 |
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| szaher | vnogin_: She is doing that on voluntarily :) | 14:42 |
| szaher | anyway you're correct :) | 14:42 |
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| szaher | I'm working with her closely and helping her if needed and Let's hope we gonna get something soon :) | 14:43 |
| szaher | Ok, Let's move on ? | 14:43 |
| jiaopengju02 | ok | 14:43 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: yep, because we need to implement these doc with easy workflow | 14:44 |
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| szaher | vnogin_: Yup | 14:44 |
| szaher | #topic tempest tests to cover new features | 14:44 |
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| szaher | We need to increase Tempest tests, we need add some few tests for the new features merged recently so we can make sure nothing is going to break it again :) | 14:45 |
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| szaher | It take so long for me to test important patches offline :) which shouldn't be the case. | 14:46 |
| vnogin_ | as far as I remember I even asked to fix some tempest tests for new functionality someone :) | 14:46 |
| szaher | May I ask if everyone of us can right one tempest test case for one feature :) ? | 14:46 |
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| szaher | I will be writing some tests as well very soon | 14:48 |
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| szaher | raliev: Are you going to get your new rsync v2 to Pike-2 (milestone 2) ? | 14:48 |
| jiaopengju02 | Someting for reference? I would like do but with no experience | 14:48 |
| raliev | szaher, I hope yes | 14:49 |
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| szaher | jiaopengju02: I will try to send some docs for writing tempest tests in freezer room or freezer useful links page https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_usefull_links | 14:49 |
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| szaher | raliev: Cool, Thanks :) | 14:50 |
| jiaopengju02 | szaher: thanks | 14:50 |
| szaher | In the meanwhile m3m0 is working on fixing the ui and adding newly added features to it | 14:50 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: welcome :) | 14:50 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Any news from Dima ? | 14:50 |
| szaher | about oslo.db move ? | 14:50 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: still on vacation ) | 14:50 |
| szaher | vnogin_: Best of luck for him :) | 14:51 |
| vnogin_ | szaher: ))) | 14:51 |
| szaher | raliev: I remember once you told me you're going to do the Pike py35 goal, do you still have the bandwidth to do it ? | 14:52 |
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| szaher | Looks like raliev is busy now :) | 14:53 |
| szaher | anyway we can get the reply in freezer room :) | 14:53 |
| raliev | szaher, actually I'm not sure :( | 14:53 |
| szaher | raliev: np, I will try to takecare of it | 14:54 |
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| szaher | #topic reviews | 14:54 |
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| szaher | there is some reviews we can't merge right now as it needs to be test offline as we still don't have enough tempest tests to cover it | 14:55 |
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| szaher | I commented on these reviews, if anyone can help please comment you're going to test this feature :) | 14:55 |
| jiaopengju02 | ok | 14:56 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Thanks :) | 14:56 |
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| szaher | Well, I think that was it for today :). Any questions, anything to add ? | 14:57 |
| jiaopengju02 | I have some bug fix should be reviewed, thanks | 14:57 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: I will take a look at it :) | 14:57 |
| jiaopengju02 | thank you very much | 14:57 |
| szaher | jiaopengju02: Welcome :) | 14:57 |
| szaher | Thanks a million guys and have a good weekend | 14:58 |
| vnogin_ | bb guys :) | 14:58 |
| szaher | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 14:58:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-05-18-14.01.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-05-18-14.01.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-05-18-14.01.log.html | 14:58 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 15:00:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | tbarron markstur xyang2 cknight: courtesy ping | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
| markstur | hi | 15:01 |
| zhongjun | Hi | 15:01 |
| * bswartz remembers that tbarron is out on vacation... | 15:01 | |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | welcome back from summit everyone | 15:02 |
| xyang2 | hi | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | I hope you all enjoyed boston | 15:02 |
| * jungleboyj is still recovering | 15:02 | |
| bswartz | especially you xyang2 | 15:02 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: short travel:) | 15:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:03 |
| vkmc | hey hey | 15:03 |
| markstur | xyang2: hosting a summit must be a lot of work | 15:03 |
| bswartz | so I only have one topic on the agenda today, and it's an urgent one | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:03 |
| xyang2 | markstur: right:) | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | markstur: Not for xyang2 , she can do it all! | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #topic PTG involvement | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116921.html | 15:04 |
| xyang2 | jungleboyj: I'll just take all the credit:) | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | so I don't know how many of you saw my ML thread | 15:04 |
| bswartz | only got 2 responses on the list | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | if you haven't seen it please read it now | 15:04 |
| bswartz | we need to decide about the denver PTG today | 15:04 |
| bswartz | diablo_rojo is impatient to hear our response | 15:05 |
| tommylikehu | Will manila cancel the next ptg? | 15:05 |
| bswartz | tommylikehu: it's up to the community | 15:05 |
| bswartz | as I said in my ML post, I lean toward making the Manila PTG a virtual event, and not requiring travel to Denver | 15:06 |
| diablo_rojo | bswartz, not impatient but eager :) | 15:06 |
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| markstur | virtual is better for me, but I don't want that to get in the way of those that can meet live | 15:07 |
| bswartz | diablo_rojo: I was exaggerating for effect :-) | 15:07 |
| markstur | careful what you say diablo_rojo is listening | 15:07 |
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| diablo_rojo | markstur, :) | 15:07 |
| markstur | :) | 15:07 |
| diablo_rojo | easier to listen when my name is mentioned | 15:07 |
| bswartz | yeah I knew she was in the channel and I wanted her to get the ping | 15:07 |
| bswartz | so the big downside to doing a virtual PTG is the timezone issue | 15:08 |
| tommylikehu | bswartz: has any other project already lead the way to have a virtual one? | 15:08 |
| ganso | it seems the biggest problem for this next (PTG + Summit) combo is the Summit, not the PTG | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | in past events we chose to hold them from UTC 1200-2000 | 15:09 |
| diablo_rojo | If it helps- we will have TSP for the PTG again and will continue to have it for the Summit/Forum as well. | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | during those the most affected team member was markstur, but he was able to wake up early for those 2 days | 15:10 |
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| zhongjun | Virtual is also better for me, Meybe we have less chance to go out in the next half year | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | however I worry that people in Asia/Pacific would be completely unable to attend due to that being the middle of the night for them | 15:10 |
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| xyang1 | everyone still here? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | diablo_rojo: some manila team members attempted to use TSP for Atlanta and all got turned down IIRC | 15:11 |
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| zhongjun | Yes | 15:11 |
| ganso | yes | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure if manila is viewed as a "less important" project or if people just got unlucky in the lottery | 15:12 |
| dustins | Or both :( | 15:12 |
| bswartz | TSP is great but I don't think we should rely on it as a community because it's hit or miss | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | only /me doesn't know what is TSP? | 15:13 |
| tommylikehu | vpo | 15:13 |
| xyang1 | I assume that means travel support program | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | ooooh | 15:13 |
| zhongjun | What is TSP | 15:14 |
| diablo_rojo | bswartz, :/ We tried to give TSP first to PTLs and then we balanced the numbers based on registration for individual projects, so if there were a lot of Manila people registered, we gave them less priority. | 15:14 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: ty ) | 15:14 |
| diablo_rojo | zhongjun, Travel Support Program | 15:14 |
| jungleboyj | vponomaryov: Yes, the travel support program from the foundation | 15:14 |
| bswartz | so I'm particularly intersted to hear from zhongjun and tommylikehu | 15:14 |
| jungleboyj | For those who can't get company funding. | 15:14 |
| bswartz | if we held a virtual event and kept the times we have in the past (UTC 1200-2000) would you be able to attend or would that make it impossible? | 15:14 |
| tommylikehu | zhongjun and I are both not sure whether we could get the chance to go aboard | 15:15 |
| bswartz | we of course could discuss a different time slot that favored Asia/Pacific, but then the European members would have problems | 15:15 |
| bswartz | there is no way to do a virtual event that works for the whole world | 15:15 |
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| zhongjun | We have less chance to go aboard | 15:16 |
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| vkmc | we could try to do some sort of time slots pick and see in which slot the majority can make it | 15:16 |
| vkmc | it's far from ideal... but... | 15:16 |
| bswartz | okay so if we join the physical PTG in Denver then you might be excluded anyways? | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | vkmc: we will cross the bridge when we get to it | 15:16 |
| tommylikehu | maybe | 15:16 |
| vkmc | if we do the physical ptg and people cannot get funding to attend, is the same as if we cannot find time slots for virtual ptg | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:17 |
| ganso | vkmc: yea it will end up being the same as virtual | 15:17 |
| tommylikehu | we could do the physical ptg and set up the webex as what we did in atlanta | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | why not consider virtual as plan B? | 15:18 |
| bswartz | so is there anyone that prefers the Denver PTG over a virtual event? | 15:18 |
| vkmc | the only difference is that with the virtual ptg we can have recordings of the sessions in an easier way as if we do a physical ptg | 15:18 |
| bswartz | tommylikehu: yes if we did go to Denver we'd setup a conference to try to help remote attendees join (and also to record the sessions) | 15:19 |
| bswartz | but recordings of physical meetings tend to miss a lot of the details | 15:19 |
| bswartz | recordings of virtual meetings capture everything | 15:19 |
| vkmc | ^ that | 15:19 |
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| tommylikehu | bswartz: that make sense | 15:20 |
| bswartz | not that I think anybody really watches 16 hours of us talking | 15:20 |
| bswartz | still there have been cases where we wanted to go back and listed to select parts of a recording if we forgot what was discussed | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | just need someone volunteering to be stenographers )) | 15:21 |
| bswartz | so I'm still waiting to hear from someone who prefers a physical meeting over a virtual meeting | 15:21 |
| bswartz | if nobody does, then I think our decision is easy | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | the benefits of not having to fight for time at the PTG are pretty big, because those of us who want to do crossproject stuff can do it and not be stressed out in denver | 15:22 |
| markstur | denver is a no-stress zone | 15:22 |
| bswartz | and we can meet face to face in sydney and drink whatever kind of beer they have in Australia | 15:22 |
| dustins | I like a physical meeting because it allows us to talk with other contributors in other projects that are in the same place | 15:22 |
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| tommylikehu | sydney? | 15:22 |
| dustins | But, on the other hand, they can just join our virtual meeting | 15:23 |
| tommylikehu | next summit? | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | markstur: :-) | 15:23 |
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| zhongjun | We'd like to attend physical meeting if our company allows us to do it:) | 15:23 |
| ganso | bswartz: ok, this is the part that I don't understand completely. How does choosing the PTG to be virtual or physical relate to us doing an "official" Manila Forum at Sydney? | 15:23 |
| diablo_rojo | bswartz, you shouldn't have the same scheduling conflicts as with Atlanta. | 15:24 |
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| vkmc | dustins, agree with that... it's harder though, people won't join a virtual meeting as easy as they go into a room... it's less casual | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | ganso: it doesn't -- I'm just saying that it's likely some of us will be in sydney due to all the customers and salespeople and loose budgets that go along with those things | 15:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Not sure if you saw ttx 's email to the dev list today but we are working on a new organization and are listening to feedback on optimizing the layout. | 15:25 |
| tommylikehu | I think different company has different strategies, for our company, huawei would rather give us the chance the attend the ptg not the summit. | 15:25 |
| bswartz | diablo_rojo: link? | 15:25 |
| dustins | vkmc: Yeah, I find it easier to stay focused when we're all together in a room | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: "salespeople" point is related mostly to manager positions, so, I think, you are minority in this case having it as an argument | 15:26 |
| bswartz | okay so I'm hearing a few votes in favor of physical PTG | 15:26 |
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| diablo_rojo | bswartz, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116971.html | 15:26 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: perhaps | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | diablo_rojo: ty | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: physical presence on PTC is really interesting from other devs presence | 15:27 |
| xyang1 | diablo_rojo: so that means cinder's PTG meeting time in Denver will be shorter than in Atlanta? | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: That is the major scheduling conflict. :-( | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | cinder didn't even use their whole time in Atlanta -- the 3rd day was slow and ended before lunch | 15:28 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: We were just that efficient. ;-) | 15:29 |
| diablo_rojo | xyang1, the idea was to have the conflict teams in different parts of the week so Manila M&T with a little spillover into W if needed and Cinder be W-F | 15:29 |
| bswartz | I want to get to the point where we can vote on this today | 15:29 |
| tommylikehu | it looks like the real decision here is which one should we use as a manila ptg, summit or real ptg. | 15:29 |
| bswartz | but I want to get all the opinion and facts out in the open first | 15:29 |
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| dustins | tommylikehu: I know that my management won't be too happy about sending everyone but Manila folks to the PTG and then the Manila folks to the summit | 15:29 |
| bswartz | jungleboyj: I think you're joking but that's actually an important point | 15:29 |
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| jungleboyj | bswartz: Only a little joking. We were able to tear through stuff there. | 15:30 |
| bswartz | dustins: summit attendence wouldn't be required by this community | 15:30 |
| bswartz | but the foundation seems to have this idea that devs should also attend summits | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | "should"? )) | 15:31 |
| dustins | So long as there are PTGs, I don't think I'll ever be at a summit unless I'm presenting :( | 15:31 |
| dustins | So if we don't do the physical PTGs, I'd likely never get to see anyone in the community face-to-face | 15:31 |
| tommylikehu | dustins: +1 | 15:32 |
| vkmc | that's a good point dustins | 15:32 |
| dustins | Since there's no point in my going to the PTG if no Manila folks are there, and I won't go to the summits because it's hard to justify for engineers | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: especially considering place where will be next summit. Manila team will gain more participating om PTG, IMHO | 15:33 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: that was the source of my discontentment after Atlanta PTG | 15:33 |
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| ganso | dustins: unless we create an actual need for us to go to the summit, like doing official Manila Forum sessions there, like in design summit, no? | 15:33 |
| dustins | Yeah, there's a 0% chance that I get to go to Sydney in the fall :) | 15:33 |
| dustins | It'd be very difficult to justify | 15:34 |
| tommylikehu | dustins: prepare for a persentation | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:34 |
| bswartz | the foundation is sending signals that we're expected to attend all 4 events each year and I think it's unrealistic for most of us | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | ganso: yes, but unless you attend the PTG in person, you don't get the free ATC pass to the summit :P | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | so I'm trying to figure out what is realistic | 15:34 |
| ganso | gouthamr: oh right, forgot about that | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: Good point. | 15:34 |
| dustins | But the ATC pass only covers a small amount of the total travel expense for a Summit | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: pass much cheaper than attendance of summit | 15:34 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: not anymore -- have you seen how high they raised the price to attend summit? | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | true... but having to pay that much is probably more reason to not go to summit :( | 15:35 |
| tommylikehu | bswartz: how much | 15:35 |
| ganso | tommylikehu: $1200 dollars | 15:35 |
| bswartz | IIRC Boston was $1200 | 15:35 |
| zhongjun | Wow | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | where you meet real users and operators and hear more war stories than you do on irc channels or mailing lists | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is cheaper anyway | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | i really wish the PTG was right before summit or right after it so we didn't have this problem at all | 15:36 |
| bswartz | okay so what if we ignore sydney and fast forward to vancouver | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | the only problem then would be a looong hiatus from home | 15:36 |
| bswartz | are those of you who think you can't attend summits also thinking vancouver will be impossible? | 15:37 |
| ttx | and frankly, if they don't want to come, they just should not :) | 15:37 |
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| ttx | the Foundation is not focring anyone | 15:37 |
| dustins | bswartz: It's distinctly possible, I'll have to ask my management chain to see | 15:38 |
| ganso | bswartz: I guess for those that could not attend Boston, why would they be able to attend Vancouver? | 15:38 |
| ttx | I mean, if a team prefers to skip the PTG, it's OK too | 15:38 |
| bswartz | so it's possible that maybe sydney is a special case where people won't be able to attend, but afterwards the summit could be a viable choice | 15:38 |
| dustins | Yeah, I wasn't able to go to Boston because I'd gone to Atlanta | 15:39 |
| bswartz | ttx: what if a team wants to get space at the summit to conduct a PTG-like event for just that team? | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | hey, unless the one after is in Berlin :) | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | or someplace | 15:39 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: Berlin is a cheap flight I'm sure | 15:39 |
| ttx | bswartz: we had hacking rooms in Boston, I expect them to still be around in next events | 15:39 |
| ganso | bswartz: I still think PTG + Vancouver will not be viable for most people, unless speakers and TSP, but we cannot depend on those | 15:40 |
| bswartz | ttx: yes I checked those out -- but is something more formal a possibility? | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | ttx: what are the chances we can get the ATC discount if we didn't have a physical meeting at the PTG? | 15:40 |
| ttx | bswartz: depend wh | 15:40 |
| ttx | err | 15:40 |
| ttx | depends what you mean by "formal" | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | I feel like if the summit has no formal place for teams to meet up, then we're being pushed to go to the PTG or to hold a virtual event | 15:40 |
| ttx | gouthamr: low. The idea is to keep it cheap for people going to 4 events per year | 15:41 |
| bswartz | ttx: I mean a reserved room | 15:41 |
| ttx | (and then push money to the travel support program) | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | oh.. didn't think of it that way.. | 15:41 |
| ttx | bswartz: you could reserve the hacking rooms in Boston. | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | ttx: okay good to know | 15:41 |
| ttx | was in emails, but yeah, was easy to miss | 15:42 |
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| ttx | bswartz: the Forum is definitely encouraging people to talk to each other rather than encouraging holing up in a hacking room with your team, yes | 15:43 |
| zhongjun | Is there a chance that openstack organization will pay all travel money for someone who want to attend PTG? | 15:43 |
| ttx | since te latter can be done in cheaper venues and locations | 15:43 |
| tommylikehu | zhongjun: only you get the lucky | 15:43 |
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| zhongjun | tommylikehu: I wish | 15:44 |
| bswartz | okay so our decision is complicated because what we decide for Queens might be different from Rocky | 15:44 |
| ttx | zhongjun: we have a travel support program. At PTGs the travel support program prioritizes PTLs first, then asks them to give us an idea of who is necessary for discussions | 15:44 |
| bswartz | but we need to decide on Queens today | 15:44 |
| smcginnis | zhongjun: A little out of date: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Travel_Support_Program | 15:44 |
| ttx | in Atlanta we could fund travel for ~20people | 15:45 |
| bswartz | so I'll open up a vote and we'll see where people stand | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | amount of PTLs is bigger than 20 | 15:45 |
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| ttx | vponomaryov: thankfully most of them had support from their employer | 15:45 |
| zhongjun | thx,smcginnis:thanks | 15:45 |
| vkmc | sounds like.. ptgs are more focused per team event, summits are more cross-project diverse-profiles event | 15:45 |
| diablo_rojo | vponomaryov, true, but not all projects go and not all need our help :) | 15:45 |
| bswartz | #startvote Should Manila attend the PTG in Denver or hold a virtual PTG for Queens? denver, virtual | 15:46 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should Manila attend the PTG in Denver or hold a virtual PTG for Queens? Valid vote options are denver, virtual. | 15:46 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 15:46 |
| ganso | #vote virtual | 15:46 |
| vponomaryov | #vote denver | 15:46 |
| vkmc | #vote virtual | 15:46 |
| xyang1 | #vote virtual | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | #vote denver | 15:46 |
| tommylikehu | #vote denver | 15:46 |
| bswartz | #vote virtual | 15:46 |
| dustins | #vote denver | 15:47 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: are you going to Denver? | 15:47 |
| zhongjun | #vote virtual | 15:47 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: I thought you will start a new adventure by then | 15:47 |
| bswartz | too bad tbarron isn't here and I don't know his vote | 15:47 |
| tommylikehu | xyang1: same question | 15:47 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang1: so, I should not vote because of it? | 15:47 |
| markstur | #vote virtual | 15:47 |
| bswartz | 30 more seconds for voting | 15:48 |
| * markstur was disctracted sorry | 15:48 | |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: you have all the right to vote! | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | xyang1: his new adventure may be an openstack project and he might come hang with his old friends | 15:48 |
| xyang1 | :) | 15:48 |
| bswartz | #endvote | 15:48 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should Manila attend the PTG in Denver or hold a virtual PTG for Queens?" Results are | 15:48 |
| openstack | denver (4): vponomaryov, dustins, tommylikehu, gouthamr | 15:48 |
| openstack | virtual (6): bswartz, markstur, ganso, xyang1, zhongjun, vkmc | 15:48 |
| bswartz | hmm not as clear cut a result as I hoped for | 15:48 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: and looking forward to seeing you in Denver | 15:49 |
| markstur | I'd like to assume tbarron would vote denver | 15:49 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: If you slice it by cores (and PTL), that probably needs to have more weight. | 15:49 |
| markstur | and yes it is not clear | 15:49 |
| markstur | @smcginnis what's my weight got to do with it? | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | :'D | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 15:50 |
| ganso | smcginnis: that would reduce 2 voters for each option, the result would end up being the same | 15:50 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: consider cknight and tbarron | 15:50 |
| bswartz | well there's slight edge for virtual, so I think we should follow the will of the people | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | ganso: Well, just saying if half the cores and the PTL are not able or unwilling to go in person, that's important. | 15:50 |
| bswartz | if you slice it by core team members it's still in favor of virtual | 15:51 |
| bswartz | so we will plan a virtual event for queens | 15:51 |
| bswartz | some of us will likely end up in denver for other reasons | 15:51 |
| bswartz | and we can reassess for Rocky what we'd like to do | 15:51 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: how about cinder teams:) | 15:52 |
| bswartz | diablo_rojo, ttx: thanks for your willingness to accomodate us in Denver but it appears it won't be necessary | 15:52 |
| ttx | bswartz: That's fine! Moar space for others :) | 15:53 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: Cinder will be in Denver for sure. | 15:53 |
| bswartz | so the next decisions we'll need to make are which week we'll do our virtual PTG and which timeslot | 15:53 |
| diablo_rojo | bswartz, no problem :) | 15:53 |
| bswartz | but that doesn't need to happen today | 15:53 |
| bswartz | for the record: | 15:53 |
| bswartz | #agreed Manila Queens PTG will be virtual | 15:53 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:54 |
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| markstur | and "viral" | 15:54 |
| bswartz | anything else today? | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | bswartz diablo_rojo: i attended a couple project onboarding sessions. i think that's a great thing to formalize! :) can we try that in Sydney (i can attend virtually :P) | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | ^^ manila onboarding i mean.. we didn't have one in Boston | 15:54 |
| bswartz | I didn't manage to attend any of those onboarding sessions but I'm certainly curious about them | 15:55 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj, smcginnis: the cinder on-boarding is great! | 15:55 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: That did seem to be popular. | 15:55 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: Thank you! | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | see, all the cool kids had it :) | 15:55 |
| diablo_rojo | gouthamr, I imagine we will do the signup for those in a similar way- smaller projects that need more new devs get first dibs and then when I open it up to everyone else its first come first serve | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: +1 | 15:55 |
| diablo_rojo | They did seem to go over well which made me very happy :) | 15:55 |
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| gouthamr | diablo_rojo: :) thanks! we're small-ish and we're always welcoming.. | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | Some more than others, but I think there were some very useful ones. | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | gouthamr: did any of the projects have hazing rituals for newcomers? | 15:56 |
| xyang1 | :) | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | but we're also kinda scary for new developers... too much esoteric tribal knowledge that only a few possess... | 15:57 |
| dustins | gouthamr: +1 | 15:57 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: maybe we should start that in manila:) | 15:57 |
| ganso | gouthamr: starting with "DHSS", right? xD | 15:57 |
| bswartz | xyang1: I assumed they did that in nova already.... | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | hahaha | 15:57 |
| dustins | I've got a new QE on Manila and I'm trying to distill the last three years of knowledge in a single document :D | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | dustins: you're a hero | 15:57 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: and 24-hour rules :P | 15:57 |
| dustins | consequently hi raissa :) | 15:58 |
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| raissa | do/ | 15:58 |
| bswartz | okay I think we can wrap up this meeting | 15:58 |
| raissa | *o/ | 15:58 |
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| gouthamr | hey raissa... welcome! | 15:58 |
| raissa | thnaks :) | 15:58 |
| bswartz | thanks all for helping me make this decision | 15:58 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 15:59:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-05-18-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-05-18-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-05-18-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| lhinds | k.. | 17:00 |
| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 17:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
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| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:00 |
| lhinds | anyone around? | 17:00 |
| john_studarus | yes! I'm here for the security meeting | 17:01 |
| lhinds | hi john_studarus | 17:01 |
| john_studarus | newbie to the meetings... | 17:01 |
| john_studarus | I put on the Security Service Chain workshop in Boston | 17:01 |
| lhinds | oh nice, very good to have you here | 17:02 |
| john_studarus | just lurking for ideas on future OpenStack security workshops... | 17:02 |
| lhinds | I know a litle about that stuff, but still new to the topic, NHS headers etc. | 17:02 |
| lhinds | we will let quorum build a bit before starting | 17:02 |
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| lhinds | hmm, strange we normally have around 5-10 core folk. | 17:04 |
| lhinds | must be a lull from the summit | 17:04 |
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| lhinds | Hmm, guess it will be a short meeting today. Anything Q's you have or topics john_studarus ? | 17:06 |
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| michaelxin_ | hi | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | hi michaelxin_ | 17:08 |
| lhinds | its very quite today, only two of us here. | 17:08 |
| michaelxin_ | gee | 17:08 |
| michaelxin_ | how are you? | 17:08 |
| lhinds | Do you have anything for Syntribos? | 17:08 |
| lhinds | I am good thanks | 17:08 |
| michaelxin_ | Michael Dong is still working on random fuzzer | 17:08 |
| michaelxin_ | He is helping other team members for use in Rackspace | 17:09 |
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| michaelxin_ | Did you go to the summit? | 17:09 |
| lhinds | I did not go michaelxin_ I had to bail out | 17:09 |
| michaelxin_ | I worry about the future for security project here | 17:10 |
| lhinds | yes, there does seem to be less shine then before. BTW rob is away getting married. | 17:10 |
| john_studarus | I was at the summit and the PTL didn't show up for the session... Major (from Rackspace) had to step in. | 17:11 |
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| lhinds | was rob (PTL) at the summit? | 17:12 |
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| john_studarus | word is he was at the summit but didn't make the security update session for reasons unknown | 17:12 |
| lhinds | k, we can see what he says when he returns from leave..we can also put the group direction / concerns down as a topic. | 17:13 |
| lhinds | michaelxin_: whats the election result / status for Queen? | 17:14 |
| lhinds | do you know? | 17:14 |
| lhinds | (security project) | 17:14 |
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| michaelxin_ | no | 17:16 |
| michaelxin_ | sorry, I was distracted by something | 17:16 |
| lhinds | I will look into it. | 17:16 |
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| michaelxin_ | Rob is getting married. Cool. | 17:17 |
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| lhinds | So I think we can end for now then..There are no OSSN updates from my end, and I don't think anyone is here for Keystone VMT | 17:17 |
| michaelxin_ | cool | 17:17 |
| michaelxin_ | Thanks. | 17:17 |
| lhinds | lets reconvene next week | 17:17 |
| michaelxin_ | Have a great day. | 17:17 |
| lhinds | thx michaelxin_ john_studarus | 17:17 |
| lhinds | #endmeeting | 17:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 17:17:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-05-18-17.00.html | 17:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-05-18-17.00.txt | 17:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-05-18-17.00.log.html | 17:17 |
| john_studarus | cya | 17:18 |
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