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| aspiers | anyone around who wants to talk HA today? | 09:03 |
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| aspiers | I guess we really need to move this meeting to a friendlier time slot | 09:03 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 14:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
| zhurong | hi | 14:00 |
| devkulkarni | lets wait for couple of minutes to see if others join | 14:01 |
| zhurong | sure | 14:01 |
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| devkulkarni | ok, lets get started | 14:03 |
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| devkulkarni | zhurong: thanks for the patch that unblocked the gate | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni | for stable/ocata we might have to do something similar to what you did for the master | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | as it looks like stable/ocata is currently broken | 14:06 |
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| zhurong | seems not the same as the master one | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | oh okay | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | looks like keystone is throwing error | 14:07 |
| zhurong | yep | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni | http://logs.openstack.org/42/461642/2/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-ubuntu-xenial/093786b/logs/screen-solum-api.log.2017-05-02-080346 | 14:09 |
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| zhurong | I tried to fix it, but... | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | bunch of keystone things are deprecated | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | I am wondering if that is causing the issue | 14:10 |
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| devkulkarni | as no request is reaching the api | 14:10 |
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| zhurong | api is not running | 14:11 |
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| devkulkarni | why do you think that? looking at http://logs.openstack.org/42/461642/2/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-ubuntu-xenial/093786b/logs/screen-solum-api.txt.gz it seems like api did start up | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni | btw, I was just looking through the release related emails | 14:16 |
| zhurong | I have merged 2 patches to fix this gate error, but seems all not works | 14:17 |
| devkulkarni | we do have stable/ocata branches for all our project repositories | 14:17 |
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| zhurong | we have | 14:18 |
| devkulkarni | so we don't need to do anything on that front | 14:18 |
| zhurong | yep, I think so | 14:18 |
| devkulkarni | also, we have already acknowledged and completed the goals for this cycle, right? | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | the deadline to respond to those is June 2 | 14:19 |
| zhurong | we have already done | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | yep! I remember you had taken care of that already | 14:20 |
| devkulkarni | so right now I don't think there is any pressing release related activity that we need to worry about | 14:20 |
| zhurong | yep | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:22 |
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| devkulkarni | I have just added recheck to your patch for stable/ocata | 14:24 |
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| devkulkarni | it might take some digging to see what is going on | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni | but since our master is green, I think we are good | 14:25 |
| zhurong | sometime it will pass the test | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni | yeah | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni | btw, the next PTG is in Denver Colorado. I let the organizers know that we won't be attending it given that we have recently met. Also, I don't have time then and don't know if you would be able to travel again to US. If you want to attend though then we can get back to the organizers | 14:28 |
| zhurong | I am not sure | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 14:30 |
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| devkulkarni | in case you find out that you can travel then we can sync up with organizers | 14:31 |
| devkulkarni | I guess those were the main points that I wanted to discuss today | 14:32 |
| devkulkarni | anything on your mind? | 14:32 |
| zhurong | nothing from my side | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | in that case we can end early | 14:33 |
| zhurong | we can end early :) | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | yep :) | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | thanks zhurong for joining | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni | it was great to see you back | 14:34 |
| zhurong | thanks devkulkarni | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni | we can sync up on solum irc during the week sometime if required | 14:34 |
| zhurong | ok | 14:34 |
| zhurong | see you | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni | ending the meeting now | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni | good night | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 14:35:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-05-31-14.00.html | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-05-31-14.00.txt | 14:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-05-31-14.00.log.html | 14:35 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 15:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 15:00 |
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| trevormc | o/ | 15:01 |
| amrith | courtesy ping to attendees johnma slicknik aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik | 15:01 |
| songjian | o/ | 15:01 |
| amrith | ./ | 15:01 |
| johnma | hi | 15:01 |
| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 15:01 |
| amrith | hi johnma trevormc songjian | 15:01 |
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| kumarmn_ | hi amrith | 15:02 |
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| johnma | hi amrith | 15:03 |
| amrith | let's get going ... | 15:04 |
| amrith | hi kumarmn_ | 15:04 |
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| amrith | #topic Annoucements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Annoucements (Meeting topic: trove)" | 15:04 | |
| amrith | Just one quick one, the Pike-2 milestone is next week. | 15:04 |
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| amrith | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:04 |
| amrith | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html#p-2 | 15:05 |
| amrith | you all know what that means so I won't bore you with the details | 15:05 |
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| amrith | thankfully (knock on wood) the gate appears to be running again | 15:06 |
| amrith | thanks erik (who isn't here) | 15:06 |
| amrith | any questions about that ... | 15:06 |
| amrith | ok. moving along | 15:06 |
| amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 15:07 |
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| amrith | trevormc, was this yours? | 15:07 |
| trevormc | yes it was :) | 15:07 |
| amrith | if yes, the floor is yours | 15:07 |
| trevormc | i just thought the response was good on my first HowTo | 15:07 |
| trevormc | #link https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/doc/source/dev/how_to_create_a_trove_instance.rst | 15:07 |
| amrith | and thanks for all the reviews and bug triaging you have done this past week | 15:07 |
| trevormc | so I was wondering, do we want more and if so which ones? | 15:07 |
| trevormc | amrith, yeah that was an action item from the trove-reboot wasn't it? | 15:08 |
| * amrith has nothing to add to the question re: which other write-up's. | 15:08 | |
| trevormc | I was thinking how to ssh into the guestagent for debugging purposes would be a good one. | 15:08 |
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| trevormc | tonygunk said there was lacking details on this.. so I created this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1691815 and now I have no feedback from him. | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1691815 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "docs don't explain required ssh-keygen" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:09 |
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| trevormc | so I think we could cover it.. just need some direction from the team. | 15:10 |
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| amrith | i don't know tonygunk | 15:10 |
| trevormc | me neither, just someone who popped in the channel asking for help. | 15:10 |
| trevormc | oh well, thats why i brought it up. | 15:11 |
| trevormc | anyone care for more howto's ? or.. api-ref? | 15:11 |
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| amrith | trevormc if you have the time, there are bugs/features which could use some time. | 15:12 |
| amrith | personally, my vote would be for those and to leave the howto's and things to new contributors | 15:12 |
| amrith | that way, we can stem the tide of typos | 15:12 |
| trevormc | but if you are a new contributor.. how will you know.. how? | 15:13 |
| trevormc | :) | 15:13 |
| amrith | you will try and use trove, you will find problems, you will write about it | 15:13 |
| amrith | right now, we have new contributors who run spell on the source tree and look for things to fix | 15:13 |
| trevormc | in the case of tonygunk, that wasnt true. | 15:13 |
| amrith | and your point is? | 15:14 |
| trevormc | he found a problem and didnt write about it | 15:14 |
| trevormc | or maybe it wasnt a problem idk | 15:15 |
| amrith | did someone tell him to write it? we've had others who have in fact written about things that they found issues with | 15:15 |
| trevormc | yeah I asked for him to hel | 15:15 |
| trevormc | help | 15:15 |
| trevormc | oh well, i see bug fixes are more valuable in the short-term. | 15:16 |
| amrith | ok, my point still is this. if you have the cycles, there are things we can have help fixing | 15:16 |
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| amrith | and they aren't even bugs | 15:16 |
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| amrith | things that haven't yet been entered as bugs | 15:16 |
| amrith | things which people will find if they try to use trove | 15:16 |
| amrith | but, if you would like to write more documentation, please. that helps too. | 15:17 |
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| trevormc | ok, thats all I had on this topic. | 15:18 |
| amrith | ok, thanks! | 15:18 |
| amrith | anyone else have topics for open discussion? | 15:18 |
| trevormc | not me | 15:19 |
| amrith | johnma, songjian, kumarmn_ ... | 15:19 |
| songjian | No more from me | 15:19 |
| johnma | no, I am good | 15:19 |
| trevormc | so do we have bugs targeted for the milestone? | 15:20 |
| amrith | johnma, any updates from the ibm team on their participation/involvement? | 15:20 |
| trevormc | or are they all on-going? | 15:20 |
| trevormc | .. sorry :( | 15:20 |
| johnma | amrith: I believe they are ongoing | 15:20 |
| kumarmn_ | Yes. Unfortunately I have been traveling and not been able to do reviews etc. | 15:21 |
| amrith | trevormc, bugs have been fixed on a catch-as-catch-can basis. when something blocks someone, they fix it. | 15:21 |
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| amrith | thx johnma | 15:21 |
| amrith | kumarmn_ thanks | 15:21 |
| johnma | amrith: I am going to do some reviews and triaging today. | 15:21 |
| amrith | trevormc if there are bugs you'd like to fix, that would be great. | 15:21 |
| amrith | thx johnma | 15:22 |
| trevormc | ok ill give one a shot | 15:23 |
| smatzek | I have started setup of a OSA deployed Trove overcloud with the intention of experimentation. I don't have x86 VMWare boxes to play with. In the short-medium term I am also being consumed by pre-existing business committments I need to wrap up before diving into Trove | 15:23 |
| amrith | ok, thanks smatzek | 15:23 |
| amrith | if there's nothing else, this will be a wrap ... going once | 15:23 |
| amrith | twice | 15:24 |
| johnma | amrith: do you have a list of bugs to fix ot should we just look at launchpad | 15:24 |
| amrith | johnma, I do not | 15:24 |
| amrith | I've been picking stuff off a backlog | 15:24 |
| amrith | things like getting elements to work for all dbs on xenial | 15:25 |
| trevormc | hmm, we also have a backlog | 15:25 |
| amrith | getting the gate up and running | 15:25 |
| johnma | let me spend some time triaging and I will see if I can help with some | 15:25 |
| trevormc | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-backlog-changes | 15:25 |
| amrith | preferably more stable | 15:25 |
| amrith | so there's a triage which would help | 15:25 |
| johnma | right | 15:25 |
| johnma | thanks trevormc | 15:25 |
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| amrith | yes, some of the changes on that list are quick and straightforward and we should be able to merge. like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404347/ | 15:26 |
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| amrith | So, till next week then ... | 15:27 |
| amrith | going once | 15:27 |
| amrith | going twice | 15:27 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 15:27:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| amrith | thanks everyone | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-05-31-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-05-31-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-05-31-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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| rkukura | who’s here for ML2? | 16:01 |
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| sadasu | Hello! | 16:01 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | hi sadasu, yamamoto, trevormc! | 16:01 |
| rkukura | does IRC show a meeting in progress on this channel? | 16:02 |
| sadasu | yes. with the topic blazar | 16:03 |
| rkukura | that’s what I see too | 16:03 |
| rkukura | not sure if I’ll be able to start our meeting | 16:03 |
| trevormc | o/ | 16:03 |
| clarkb | logs say it was ended, topic just wasn't reset | 16:03 |
| rkukura | clarkb: thanks | 16:03 |
| clarkb | when yall are done we can get the topic sorted out | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 16:04:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | meetbot seems to work :) | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev said he can’t make the meeting today | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:05 | |
| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_May_31.2C_2017 | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | not much structure to the recent agendas | 16:05 |
| rkukura | anyone want to add anything specific? | 16:05 |
| sadasu | I have a couple of questions for trevormc | 16:05 |
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| trevormc | ok shoot :) | 16:06 |
| rkukura | should we get to those under RFEs, or is this unrelated? | 16:06 |
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| sadasu | one is about the q-in-q type driver code review | 16:07 |
| rkukura | sadasu: Should we cover these when we get to RFEs? | 16:07 |
| sadasu | and the other is about the SR-IOV tap rfe | 16:07 |
| sadasu | sure. | 16:07 |
| rkukura | OK | 16:07 |
| rkukura | #topic Annoucements | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | No announcements from me - anyone else? | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | #topic RFEs/Bugs | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | sadasu: go ahead… | 16:08 |
| trevormc | umm the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1693240 was decided to be a normal bug and not an RFE so I can start working on it now :0 | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1693240 in neutron "Support SRIOV VF VLAN Filtering" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Trevor McCasland (twm2016) | 16:08 |
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| sadasu | ok..haven't looked at that yet | 16:09 |
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| trevormc | no need to look into it, I just wanted to say it is no longer being held back in the RFE review process | 16:11 |
| sadasu | cool | 16:11 |
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| sadasu | trevormc: regarding the q-in-q type driver | 16:11 |
| sadasu | do you have some reservations about your get_mtu() method? | 16:11 |
| sadasu | when I looked at your patchiest first, I did spend quite some time on this method and talked to folks about it | 16:12 |
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| sadasu | conclusion: that method is fine. do you have something specific you are worried about? | 16:12 |
| sadasu | patchiest* | 16:12 |
| sadasu | spell check working its magic with patch set | 16:13 |
| trevormc | sadasu: thanks for confirming the method being fine. I was just worried the mtu size would have to be smaller than VLAN because of the extra header | 16:13 |
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| trevormc | but if thats not the case then, no worries. | 16:13 |
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| sadasu | ok..let me double check your concern and post my final comment on the review itself | 16:14 |
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| trevormc | that would be great, thank you! | 16:15 |
| sadasu | should I proceed to question#2? | 16:15 |
| trevormc | yes | 16:15 |
| rkukura | sadasu please | 16:15 |
| sadasu | this is regarding the SR-IOV being supported under tap-aaS | 16:16 |
| sadasu | there are 2 SR-IOV modes supported in nova/neutron "direct" and "macvtap" | 16:17 |
| sadasu | tap-aaS can be supported only in the macvtap mode | 16:17 |
| sadasu | macvtap is implemented in the kernel as mtacvlan, afaik | 16:17 |
| sadasu | are you working in that direction? | 16:17 |
| trevormc | sadasu: this is good info. I cannot say what the implementation details are. | 16:18 |
| sadasu | "macvlan"* | 16:18 |
| trevormc | ... I know this is not the answer you want to hear, but I was hoping to talk with the research team more about this. | 16:18 |
| sadasu | yes, I remember you saying that in the last meeting | 16:19 |
| sadasu | thats why I am getting you some information that might help you with defining the direction a little better | 16:19 |
| trevormc | thanks, I spent most of the time talking about the vlan filtering. I think we want to do it with direct ports. | 16:20 |
| trevormc | I'll get an answer for you wrt direct or macvtap ports | 16:20 |
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| sadasu | I think the important distinction between "direct" and "macvtap" is that the kernel looses control of the "direct" port as soon as it is assigned to the VM | 16:21 |
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| trevormc | right, VFd is supposed to be an implementation of the kernel driver to give the information back | 16:22 |
| trevormc | s/information/control | 16:22 |
| trevormc | https://github.com/att/vfd/tree/master/src/vfd | 16:23 |
| trevormc | currently it says, "Future support for mirroring is planned." | 16:23 |
| trevormc | so I will have to ask what the details are on this. | 16:23 |
| sadasu | ah! thanks for the link. Didn't know about it | 16:23 |
| trevormc | yeah a lot of people don't know about vfd but it is apart of dpdk now so we can integrate it easily... i think :) | 16:24 |
| sadasu | ok. nothing more from me until I take a look at the additional info you just provided me | 16:24 |
| trevormc | see http://dpdk.readthedocs.io/en/latest/nics/intel_vf.html#dpdk-sr-iov-pmd-pf-vf-driver-usage-model | 16:24 |
| trevormc | just the whole page, not just the div i linked. | 16:25 |
| rkukura | trevormc: Anything more you’d like to report related to your SR-IOV work? | 16:25 |
| sadasu | trevormc: thanks again | 16:26 |
| trevormc | rkukura: its currently blocked because I need a lab that has the required hardware. | 16:26 |
| trevormc | I'm working on getting one | 16:26 |
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| rkukura | trevormc: OK, thanks | 16:27 |
| trevormc | sadasu: thank you for looking into the capabilities, its really useful, especially for computing noob like myself. | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | Any other questions related to the SR-IOV RFEs/bug/work? | 16:27 |
| sadasu | trevormc: you are welcome! I am no expert either. | 16:28 |
| trevormc | not from me. | 16:28 |
| rkukura | thank you both! | 16:28 |
| rkukura | minor update on the RFE I had submitted on extension semantics enforcement… | 16:28 |
| rkukura | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673142 | 16:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673142 in neutron "[RFE][ML2] Enforce extension semantics" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 16:29 |
| rkukura | seems the driver’s team is happy with the RFE, but wants a spec | 16:29 |
| rkukura | I hope to find out in the next week whether I will have any time to work on this near term | 16:29 |
| rkukura | that’s it from me on this | 16:30 |
| sadasu | rkukura: will read the detailed RFE | 16:30 |
| rkukura | sadasu: thanks | 16:30 |
| rkukura | Any other RFEs/Bugs to discuss today? | 16:31 |
| trevormc | no | 16:31 |
| rkukura | if not… | 16:31 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | Anything to discuss today? | 16:32 |
| rkukura | Or readty to wrap up? | 16:32 |
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| rkukura | s/readty/ready/ | 16:32 |
| sadasu | I don't have anything | 16:32 |
| trevormc | im ready :) | 16:32 |
| rkukura | OK, thanks for joining today! See you next week! | 16:33 |
| sadasu | thanks all! | 16:33 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 16:33:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-05-31-16.04.html | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-05-31-16.04.txt | 16:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2017/networking_ml2.2017-05-31-16.04.log.html | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | bye | 16:33 |
| yamamoto | bye | 16:33 |
| rkukura | clarkb: We are done, so if you wanted to fix this room’s status, go right ahead. | 16:33 |
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| timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 17:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| timsim | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| hieulq_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| daidv | o/ | 17:00 |
| trungnv_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| sonuk | o/ | 17:00 |
| timsim | Don't see any mugsie nicks in here | 17:00 |
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| timsim | #topic Bug Triage | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | o/ | 17:02 |
| hieulq_ | hi mugsie | 17:02 |
| mugsie | I am double booked today | 17:03 |
| mugsie | so I will be sporadic | 17:03 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1688621 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1688621 in Designate "Ability to have different Rabbit connections for Sink" [Undecided,New] | 17:03 |
| timsim | Not really a bug, more a feature request | 17:03 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:03 |
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| timsim | I'll tell them to bp/spec if they're interested | 17:04 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1690184 | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690184 in Designate "zones created via zone import don't have pool attributes" [Undecided,New] | 17:04 |
| timsim | This is that terrible one | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | ya | 17:06 |
| timsim | Critical I guess | 17:06 |
| mugsie | definitly | 17:07 |
| timsim | Don't think we have milestones... | 17:07 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1691618 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1691618 in Designate "MQ messages flood in designate devstack master" [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
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| timsim | No clue what's happening there | 17:07 |
| timsim | I think I have seen more random oslo.messaging stuff over the last few months in the logs | 17:08 |
| mugsie | yeah - someone needs to dig into it | 17:08 |
| timsim | If the gate is still passing it's probably not a high priority. Medium? | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | med | 17:08 |
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| hieulq__ | I will figure out after finishing the works in enable worker model | 17:08 |
| mugsie | cool - thanks | 17:09 |
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| timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage | 17:10 |
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| timsim | Been a while since we've done this http://paste.openstack.org/show/611122/ | 17:10 |
| timsim | Anyone see anything worth of backporting to stable branches? | 17:10 |
| mugsie | nothing really | 17:11 |
| timsim | yeah me either | 17:11 |
| timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
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| timsim | Anyone want to discuss anything? | 17:12 |
| trungnv_ | Hi | 17:12 |
| trungnv_ | yes. I have | 17:12 |
| hieulq__ | one question to mugsie | 17:12 |
| hieulq__ | for enabling the worker model, is it possible to change grenade to realize our new config? | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | yes | 17:13 |
| mugsie | I am not 100% what it is | 17:13 |
| mugsie | but we can | 17:13 |
| hieulq__ | you recommend to create new grenade gate for worker model | 17:13 |
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| hieulq__ | but I prefer configuring grenade to realize the new config | 17:13 |
| hieulq__ | so maybe we do not need new grenade gate for worker model only | 17:14 |
| hieulq__ | am I right? | 17:14 |
| mugsie | I would prefer it | 17:15 |
| mugsie | but I am OK now not having one | 17:16 |
| hieulq__ | thanks | 17:16 |
| trungnv_ | we are almost done with OVO (just zone object). please look at our PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464971/ | 17:16 |
| hieulq__ | that's all from me | 17:16 |
| trungnv_ | we only issue with a functional testcase to pass gate. | 17:17 |
| timsim | Did you all have any luck talking to your leaders about the proxy approach we discussed in Boston? | 17:17 |
| hieulq__ | no luck at all | 17:18 |
| hieulq__ | they still request us to implement ovo and other stuffs | 17:18 |
| trungnv_ | yep. | 17:18 |
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| timsim | How do you feel about that? | 17:19 |
| hieulq__ | not really comfortable | 17:19 |
| hieulq__ | but at least we should try in this cycle | 17:20 |
| timsim | Well, alright then. | 17:20 |
| timsim | Anything else from anyone? | 17:20 |
| hieulq__ | we are running ice house, so put a proxy into the ancient system could be a doom for us | 17:20 |
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| hieulq__ | I think that's all from Fujitsu guys | 17:21 |
| daidv | timsim, https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/objects/recordset.py#L142 | 17:22 |
| daidv | For this #TODO | 17:22 |
| daidv | I think we can have easy implemention via OVO | 17:22 |
| daidv | like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464971/13/designate/objects/fields.py | 17:23 |
| daidv | with a PolymorphicObject. | 17:23 |
| timsim | hm. | 17:23 |
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| timsim | My problem with our objects has always been: too complicated. It's very difficult to reason about when you get into it and try to actually use them. My fear with OVO, among other things, is that this is going to be even MORE complicated. | 17:24 |
| timsim | For example, if by some miracle the functional tests are able to pass, I'll have almost no confidence that they're going to work going forward. | 17:25 |
| timsim | Because it's going to take me 5 days of code review/messing around to even partly understand what's going on. | 17:25 |
| timsim | I understand the approach of just trying to fit them in where the current objects work. But to get it into a mergeable state in the future, I fear you're going to have to rewrite how the objects work altogether. | 17:26 |
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| timsim | Which is what Graham mentioned originally. "Make these current objects better at what they do now" rather than "shoehorn ovo in here" | 17:26 |
| timsim | Anyway. | 17:26 |
| timsim | That's my opinion. | 17:26 |
| timsim | Anything else? | 17:27 |
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| timsim | Alright, going once, | 17:28 |
| timsim | twice | 17:28 |
| trungnv_ | yes. i have | 17:28 |
| timsim | aha | 17:28 |
| trungnv_ | timsim, I have some PSs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468088/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468904/ | 17:28 |
| trungnv_ | could you look at them? | 17:28 |
| timsim | sure | 17:29 |
| trungnv_ | with OVO, we can try to get pass everything then we will improve whole code to get best solution for our codes. | 17:30 |
| trungnv_ | we also will test our code on our system. | 17:30 |
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| timsim | For https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468088/ I think a unit test is needed, +2'd the other one | 17:30 |
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| trungnv_ | which remain PS? | 17:32 |
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| daidv | timsim, hmm, thanks. we will do both of them (improve testcase to ensure about some validation and try to migrate current objects to OVO) | 17:34 |
| timsim | Cool | 17:34 |
| timsim | Alright, I need to head out, anything else? | 17:34 |
| trungnv_ | that all for me. | 17:34 |
| trungnv_ | thanks | 17:34 |
| daidv | me too, thanks. | 17:35 |
| timsim | cool. Thanks all | 17:35 |
| timsim | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 17:35:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-05-31-17.00.html | 17:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-05-31-17.00.txt | 17:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-05-31-17.00.log.html | 17:35 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 20:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
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| johnsom | Hi folks! I'm back..... | 20:00 |
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| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:00 |
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| jniesz | Hello, wb | 20:00 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, welcome back! | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Let's get started | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | Recently we had some breakage with the image. It turns out the pyroute2 package released with a bug that caused it to not allow interface renames, which we use to manage the network namespace. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | I isolated that yesterday and the main developer fixed it last night. We also excluded that version in global-requirements. So that is now resolved. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Also a reminder, Pike-2 milestone is next week. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 20:03 |
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| rm_mobile | o/ | 20:03 |
| johnsom | I have a few stable releases going, but hit a snag with the diskimage-builder changes, so I need to work through that with the release/stable team. Since DIB changed their packaging, it added a requirement, which the stable folks don't like (for good reason). I'm just not sure we have a choice here. | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Hopefully now that infra is managing DIB it will be handled in a more stable way | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Also of note, the docs team has a discussion about the future structure of documentation going on the dev list. I plan to respond today. It's in favor of our desire to have docs in-tree | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Otherwise, I am still digging through a bunch of e-mail and patches. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements today? | 20:06 |
| nmagnezi | nop | 20:06 |
| clarkb | johnsom: whats the issue with dib packaging? | 20:07 |
| clarkb | (I'm not aware of it, not sure if others are) | 20:07 |
| nmagnezi | just waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467473 to get merged already :) | 20:07 |
| rm_mobile | Ugh our gates... | 20:08 |
| rm_mobile | Make me cry | 20:08 |
| johnsom | clarkb DIB changed to only allowing install via a package where there was none previously. So we had to add the requirement to pull in the new package. Since DIB does not have stable branches it means our stable branches need to change..... | 20:08 |
| rm_mobile | Hopefully soon :P | 20:08 |
| clarkb | johnsom: you mean it requires a proper pip install to function? | 20:08 |
| johnsom | It was a good change, just makes managing stable branches interesting. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | clarkb Yes, we had to add the new package to requirements.txt | 20:09 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | Which is not a good thing on stable branches | 20:09 |
| clarkb | you could also just install it out of band wherever you were cloning it and using it before? | 20:10 |
| johnsom | I will have a chat in the release channel and on the patch to figure out a path out of this | 20:10 |
| clarkb | rather than making it a hard package dep? | 20:10 |
| clarkb | ok | 20:10 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:10 | |
| johnsom | Ok, any bugs patches to highlight? I'm working though them as I can. I'm looking at the HM changes now. | 20:11 |
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| johnsom | It looks like there was a bunch of good stuff while I was on vacation | 20:11 |
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| rm_mobile | Yeah I have a ton of patches up | 20:12 |
| rm_mobile | But on mobile so hard to link them all | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Wow, ok. I will promote my own then, the api-ref patches could use some reviews | 20:12 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/458272 | 20:12 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/464095 | 20:13 |
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| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/464050 | 20:13 |
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| rm_mobile | Jude's client stuff is done and good to review too | 20:13 |
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| johnsom | Ah yes, I need to go take a look at that. Cool! | 20:14 |
| johnsom | I think I have reviewed most of your stuff rm_mobile | 20:14 |
| johnsom | #topic Flavors discussion (cpuga) | 20:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Flavors discussion (cpuga) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:14 | |
| cpuga | o/ | 20:15 |
| johnsom | cpuga The floor is yours. You asked to have an agenda topic for flavors | 20:15 |
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| cpuga | yes was curios on the status of flavors | 20:15 |
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| cpuga | also a bit on the history | 20:16 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392485/ | 20:16 |
| cpuga | I see that lbaas-loadbalancer-create has a flavor option | 20:16 |
| johnsom | We have a proposed spec with a lot of comments, but I think it is abandoned at the moment. | 20:16 |
| johnsom | History is flavors were added to neutron and an initial implementation was added to neutron-lbaas but not advanced. | 20:17 |
| johnsom | The current "flavors" in neutron-lbaas only really mirrors the "provider" selection (specifying a driver). | 20:17 |
| cpuga | so is the --flavor option within lbaas-loadbalancer-create not operational? | 20:17 |
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| johnsom | This spec is intended to figure out the details of a fully functional flavors implementation for Octavia that would encompass more that just the driver. | 20:18 |
| johnsom | We just need a resource that is willing to step forward and take over the spec such that it can get approved. | 20:19 |
| cpuga | a few weeks back I did email the author of the flavor spec about assisting with the implementing the spec | 20:19 |
| cpuga | didn't hear back, but I'd like to run with it | 20:20 |
| johnsom | cpuga I think the --flavor is barely operation in neutron-lbaas. | 20:20 |
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| cpuga | I do have a different data schema in mind | 20:20 |
| johnsom | That is all I ask. That you reached out to the author and didn't hear back is good enough to me. Feel free to adopt and update that patch | 20:20 |
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| cpuga | would it be fine to start a fresh spec | 20:21 |
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| johnsom | Ok, feel free to propose an alternative. Spec time is the right time to do that. | 20:21 |
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| cpuga | this way we can have comments that are more relevant to the new design | 20:22 |
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| cpuga | k, thx | 20:22 |
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| johnsom | Well, I would prefer we update the inital patch, just to respect the work that went into the original proposal. | 20:22 |
| johnsom | If it is completely different I guess a second spec patch could be appropriate. | 20:23 |
| cpuga | ok I can do that as well, as long as it is fine that I change things around quite a bit | 20:23 |
| johnsom | I just hate to drop the comments and ideas that were already presented | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Sure | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Any other discussion on flavors? | 20:24 |
| cpuga | k, that is it for me. thx for the time. | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Sure, no problem and thanks for working on that! | 20:25 |
| johnsom | #topic Discuss asynchronous API and response handling (updates) (rm_work / johnsom) | 20:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss asynchronous API and response handling (updates) (rm_work / johnsom) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:25 | |
| johnsom | This has been on the agenda for a while and we didn't have quorum to fully discuss. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | rm_mobile I think you had a proposal? | 20:25 |
| rm_mobile | Yeah.. | 20:26 |
| johnsom | I think i put out three or four idea in previous meetings, interested to hear your perspective | 20:26 |
| rm_mobile | Unfortunately trying to type up on mobile right now isn't happening, had the wrong meeting time | 20:26 |
| rm_mobile | But probably you know the options | 20:27 |
| rm_mobile | There are a couple | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Should we discuss next week or do you want me to try to list them again? | 20:27 |
| rm_mobile | You can probably list them | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Ok | 20:28 |
| rm_mobile | Or if you can stall for 8 min I'll be home :P | 20:28 |
| johnsom | This is for update calls to the API | 20:28 |
| johnsom | I will start and then you will be there.... grin | 20:28 |
| johnsom | 1. We return the data in the pre-update form but with provisioning status "PENDING_UPDATE". i.e. If they update the name field, the data the API will return will still have the old name but reflect that a change is in progress. This means we return the user accurate data at all times, but can be confusing. | 20:30 |
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| johnsom | 2. We return the data with "faked" updates and "PENDING_UPDATE". This way the user gets back what they just changed, but the changes may not yet actually be applied yet. Followup GET calls will reflect the accurate state and not the "faked" data. For example, setting the LB to admin_state_up=False would show false in the response, but the LB would still | 20:32 |
| johnsom | be passing traffic until the update completes. | 20:32 |
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| johnsom | 3. We change our revert models such that we actually update the database with their requested changes. This means the result and future GET calls reflect the requested change, even though they may not yet be in effect. "PENDING_UPDATE" would still apply. To enable proper rollback to "actual state" we would need to pass the previous state data model over | 20:34 |
| johnsom | to the controller so it has an idea of what to go back to should something fail. | 20:34 |
| johnsom | 4. Make the calls synchronous. Probably not a good idea. | 20:34 |
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| nmagnezi | i think I agree with you about 4 :) | 20:35 |
| johnsom | 5. Don't return anything on an Update call. This is how the new OSC commands behave. It would mean breaking the API though, so rolling the version, etc. | 20:35 |
| johnsom | (just throwing them out there for completeness) | 20:35 |
| johnsom | Other options I am forgetting? | 20:36 |
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| rm_mobile | Yes | 20:37 |
| rm_mobile | But uhh | 20:37 |
| rm_mobile | Actually no | 20:37 |
| rm_mobile | I vote #1 | 20:37 |
| rm_mobile | Honestly wasn't even considering options at this level | 20:38 |
| johnsom | I also vote #1 actually. It is slightly confusing to the user, but is the most accurate view of the situation IMO. | 20:38 |
| rm_mobile | I was actually thinking of just proposing options for how to implement #1 lol | 20:38 |
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| rm_mobile | I had assumed that would be what we would do | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Ha, ok. Well, that should be fairly easy actually | 20:39 |
| rm_mobile | Yes | 20:39 |
| nmagnezi | #1 sounds right | 20:39 |
| johnsom | However I'm pretty sure the current implementation is "mixed" and needs fixed. I have an open but to fix it. | 20:40 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, do we know how it is done in other projects? nova, neutron etc? | 20:40 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1676662 | 20:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676662 in octavia "Octavia v2 API needs to update the return content on PUT" [High,Triaged] | 20:40 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi I'm not 100% sure. I knew at one point, but it was too nice of weather on my vacation and I can't say 100% | 20:41 |
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| rm_work | ok so i have some ideas | 20:42 |
| rm_work | there's a few options | 20:42 |
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| rm_work | so right now what we do is update just the status in the DB, and then pass the update-dict through the queue | 20:43 |
| rm_work | what I propose we do | 20:43 |
| rm_work | well, there's a couple options | 20:43 |
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| rm_work | 1) we update the db and send the OLD object state through the queue -- this is easy, but if something dies in the queue, we lose the old object state, which is bleh | 20:44 |
| rm_work | 2) we snapshot the object in another DB table and pass a reference to the snapshot through the queue | 20:44 |
| johnsom | Your #1 is my #3 I think.... | 20:45 |
| rm_work | ^^ after updating the main object in the DB | 20:45 |
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| rm_work | AH yeah ok i misread in the car i think | 20:45 |
| rm_work | then I vote #3 | 20:45 |
| rm_work | yeah i swapped them | 20:45 |
| rm_work | #3 is what I was envisioning | 20:46 |
| johnsom | Ok, so we have a longer conversation. | 20:46 |
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| jniesz | for #3 if something else queries the object during pending update it will not be able to determine the state | 20:47 |
| johnsom | My issue with #3 is it's complicated and it returns data that may not actually be in effect yet. | 20:47 |
| rm_work | it'll return the data the user intends to have, and is in PENDING_UPDATE for | 20:48 |
| rm_work | yeah, it's a little more complex | 20:48 |
| jniesz | #3 seems like it would be hard to determine actual truth during pending update | 20:48 |
| rm_work | honestly I could be convinced to switch to #1 | 20:48 |
| rm_work | but i'll have to rethink | 20:48 |
| jniesz | something else could come along and read state and get invalid values or at the very best would be left to undefined | 20:49 |
| johnsom | It is the admin_state_up case that sways me towards #1. The user will get back an accurate snapshot of the state with the PENDING_UPDATE state. | 20:49 |
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| johnsom | We had one more agenda item, should we move on to that? | 20:53 |
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| rm_work | yeah sorry i am ALSO in another meeting | 20:53 |
| rm_work | where i'm a driver <_< | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Opps, so we should probably defer your other agenda item too. | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Let's talk more, maybe in the lbaas channel. | 20:54 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:54 | |
| johnsom | Other topics to discussion in the few minutes we have left? | 20:54 |
| jniesz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466260/ | 20:54 |
| jniesz | agree with your comments | 20:54 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466260/ | 20:55 |
| johnsom | We link so they are links in the minutes | 20:55 |
| jniesz | for fast reloads though | 20:55 |
| jniesz | it doesn't look like we support server-state-file | 20:55 |
| jniesz | which allows for preserving the backend states through reloads | 20:55 |
| johnsom | Ok, cool. Yeah, I have been following this for a while. I just want to be careful before we pull in ruby and that other code. | 20:56 |
| jniesz | we can do server-state-file with custom template that is workaround | 20:56 |
| jniesz | but that is something I noticed in my testing we needed | 20:56 |
| jniesz | on 1 vCPU use case it is not an issue and will be more when we go to multi cpu | 20:57 |
| jniesz | which ties into the flavor work | 20:57 |
| johnsom | So the way that used to work (maybe changed) is when the second process is spawned (for the new connections) it does a table sync with the old process finishing the existing connections. Is that not the case? | 20:57 |
| rm_work | yeah i would not recommend we pull in ruby <_< | 20:57 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I know there were a number of issues that came up if you enabled the nproc mode. That is why we didn't do it originally. I know in recent releases they work working to resolve a number of those. | 20:58 |
| jniesz | I think we are ok with not pulling in Ruby, since it is fixed in 1.8 with the -x option | 20:58 |
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| johnsom | It would be great if someone can dig through that again and see if the problems with nproc >1 are now resolved. I know stick table was one, config reloads was another. | 20:59 |
| nmagnezi | sorry my connection was dropped so i was out for the past 10 minutes | 20:59 |
| jniesz | that is something we would want to test, especially with flavor support | 21:00 |
| johnsom | Well, we are out of time. | 21:00 |
| johnsom | Thanks folks! | 21:00 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 21:00:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-05-31-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-05-31-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-05-31-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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| johnsom | jniesz we can chat more in the lbaas channel if you would like | 21:01 |
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