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| szaher | #startmeeting freezer | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 14:00:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is szaher. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' | 14:00 |
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| szaher | Hello everyone | 14:00 |
| szaher | Let's wait 10 minutes till everyone joins | 14:01 |
| jiaopengju | hi szaher | 14:01 |
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| szaher | jiaopengju: hi :) | 14:01 |
| szaher | Meeting agenda can be found here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 14:01 |
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| szaher | ping kforde raliev vnogin yangyapeng | 14:04 |
| vnogin | hi guys | 14:05 |
| szaher | vnogin: Hey vitaliy | 14:05 |
| vnogin | szaher: hi Saad, nice to see you :) | 14:05 |
| szaher | vnogin: Thanks :) | 14:06 |
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| szaher | Ok, let's start guys ? | 14:09 |
| jiaopengju | + | 14:09 |
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| szaher | #topic review s3 patch | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review s3 patch (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:10 | |
| szaher | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471295/ | 14:10 |
| jiaopengju | thanks for your review | 14:10 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: I'm taking a look at it, after the meeting I will finish the review hopefully :) | 14:11 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: Thank You! :) | 14:11 |
| jiaopengju | ok | 14:11 |
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| szaher | vnogin: Thanks for reviewing this patch :) | 14:12 |
| szaher | #topic use sudo or rootwrap in freezer?(jiaopengju) | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "use sudo or rootwrap in freezer?(jiaopengju) (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:12 | |
| vnogin | szaher: np :) | 14:12 |
| vnogin | other projects use rootwrap :) | 14:13 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: as far as I remember rootwrap requires a config file, right ? | 14:13 |
| jiaopengju | szaher: yes | 14:13 |
| vnogin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462472/ | 14:13 |
| vnogin | as example | 14:13 |
| jiaopengju | os_brick in freezer use sudo | 14:13 |
| vnogin | that we really need it | 14:14 |
| jiaopengju | cinder_os_brick | 14:14 |
| vnogin | jiaopengju: from point of view - it should be changed | 14:14 |
| szaher | https://github.com/openstack/freezer/blob/master/freezer/engine/osbrick/brick_utils.py | 14:14 |
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| vnogin | I'll ask Ivan (e0ne) why :) | 14:15 |
| szaher | I think freezer-agent should have hardcoded configurations to run | 14:15 |
| szaher | vnogin: Do you mean raliev ? | 14:15 |
| vnogin | szaher: nope, I mean e0ne - he also from my team )) | 14:15 |
| szaher | Ok :) | 14:16 |
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| raliev | https://github.com/openstack/freezer/blob/master/freezer/engine/osbrick/brick_utils.py - this part of code written by e0ne and currently could be refactored | 14:16 |
| vnogin | raliev: Ruslan, also you can talk with Ivan regarding it :) | 14:17 |
| raliev | because we can import it directly from os_brick module | 14:17 |
| szaher | Cool! | 14:18 |
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| szaher | Thanks guys vnogin raliev | 14:18 |
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| szaher | jiaopengju: I think we need to check more about rootwrap, Do you know If we must have a config file to make it work ? | 14:19 |
| jiaopengju | szaher: yes, I have read the code of cinder, and it use rootwrap | 14:20 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: I don't mind using rootwrap but my issue is, freezer-agent shouldn't need any configuration files at all, can we use rootwrap without config file ? | 14:21 |
| jiaopengju | szaher: I will do more to verify it. | 14:21 |
| jiaopengju | szaher: I am not very sure if we can use rootwrap without config file | 14:22 |
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| szaher | jiaopengju: Ok, Let us know please so we can decide later, is that Ok ? | 14:23 |
| jiaopengju | ok | 14:23 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: Thank You! | 14:23 |
| jiaopengju | szaher: np | 14:24 |
| szaher | Move on ? | 14:24 |
| vnogin | anyway +1 from my side for rootwrap :)) | 14:24 |
| szaher | vnogin: Thanks :) | 14:24 |
| szaher | #topic Update about opening repos | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update about opening repos (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:24 | |
| szaher | so the openstack-ansible-os_freezer role has been created :) #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_freezer | 14:25 |
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| szaher | Also freezer-tempest-plugin repo has been created https://github.com/openstack/freezer-tempest-plugin :) | 14:26 |
| vnogin | awesome :) | 14:26 |
| szaher | #topic Midcycle meetup ? | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Midcycle meetup ? (Meeting topic: freezer)" | 14:29 | |
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| szaher | so I was thinking If we can have a meetup on hangouts on certain topics in freezer and freezer-dr to discuss pending issues and organize our work and to get to know what will be done soon and what will be done later | 14:30 |
| vnogin | + | 14:31 |
| szaher | what do you think jiaopengju vnogin raliev kforde dstepanenko_ m3m0 slashme yangyapeng | 14:31 |
| jiaopengju | + | 14:32 |
| raliev | + | 14:32 |
| szaher | +1 from m3m0 and slashme :) | 14:32 |
| szaher | in 2 weeks from now would that suite you ? | 14:33 |
| vnogin | + | 14:33 |
| jiaopengju | + | 14:34 |
| raliev | + | 14:34 |
| szaher | Nice, I will schedule this on hangouts and will send an email to the mailing list so if anyone would like to join | 14:34 |
| szaher | Thanks guys :) | 14:35 |
| szaher | anyone would like to add anything before we go ? | 14:35 |
| vnogin | nope :) | 14:35 |
| szaher | Thanks again :) | 14:36 |
| jiaopengju | I have wrote a bp | 14:36 |
| jiaopengju | about swift media | 14:36 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: for what ? | 14:36 |
| jiaopengju | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/freezer/+spec/independent-swift-media-support | 14:36 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: Can you share it with us ? | 14:36 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: Thanks :) | 14:36 |
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| szaher | This is related to not to use keystone for auth, right ? | 14:37 |
| jiaopengju | it is not 'not to use keystone', but use the different auth system | 14:38 |
| jiaopengju | by the way, you can use or not use keystone | 14:38 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: Yes, that's what I meant :) | 14:38 |
| szaher | jiaopengju: anyway, I will take a look at it and I will let you know :) | 14:39 |
| szaher | Thanks :) | 14:39 |
| jiaopengju | ok, thanks | 14:39 |
| szaher | cool anything else you want to add ? | 14:39 |
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| szaher | Ok, Thank you guys :) | 14:45 |
| szaher | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 14:45:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-06-22-14.00.html | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-06-22-14.00.txt | 14:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/freezer/2017/freezer.2017-06-22-14.00.log.html | 14:45 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 15:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| jprovazn | hi | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hi | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| zhongjun | hello | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| markstur | hi | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
| bswartz | once again, no announcements this week | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | I wanted to start off today with | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic IPv6 status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IPv6 status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| bswartz | I have finally been able to shut out distractions and start to focus on this again | 15:02 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I have 2 new LVM driver patches up | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | where do we stand on testing and implementation for ipv6? | 15:03 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:03 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: do you have a list of patches that are required? | 15:03 |
| zhongjun | I have many patchs about IPv6 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:jun.zhongjun2%2540gmail.com+status:open | 15:03 |
| raissa | hi | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406776/ | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312321/ | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328932/ | 15:04 |
| bswartz | ^ these are the ones I've been looking at | 15:04 |
| zhongjun | First we need to focuse on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406776/ | 15:05 |
| zhongjun | focus | 15:05 |
| bswartz | what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476057/ | 15:06 |
| zhongjun | gate job: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476057/ | 15:07 |
| bswartz | okay that can't merge until a bunch of other patches merge | 15:07 |
| zhongjun | add ipv4 and ipv6 in lvm export ips config | 15:07 |
| bswartz | but we should make it a priority for that to be able to pass | 15:07 |
| bswartz | so everyone is still on board with the plan to have a single job for testing both ipv4 and ipv6 right? and centos will be required to actually turn on the v6 tests? | 15:08 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:08 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:08 |
| zhongjun | We can test both ipv6 and ipv4 after merge gate job | 15:08 |
| zhongjun | +1 | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | the main thing left for me then is to add more unit tests coverage on my patch and get it merged so we can start merging zhongjun's stuff | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | I'm going to keep pushing for this to move quickly | 15:10 |
| bswartz | we can't be still working on ipv6 at the end of p-3 | 15:10 |
| bswartz | anything else related to ipv6 that we should discuss today? | 15:10 |
| zhongjun | agree | 15:10 |
| bswartz | okay moving on... | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #topic Driver fixes to branches beyond stable/R-1 | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Driver fixes to branches beyond stable/R-1 (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:11 | |
| bswartz | gouthamr: you're up | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: thanks | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | okay, we identified a few bugs in our drivers that go way back to many older releases | 15:12 |
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| gouthamr | but when we fix such bugs, backports to these fixes are only limited to ocata | 15:12 |
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| gouthamr | but i'd like to ideally backport them to newton too... but what stops me would be the backport policy around stable branches | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | in cinder, i'm able to propose such backports to "driverfixes" branches | 15:13 |
| tbarron | so this issue was discussed in cinder; do you have a solution for this issue in cinder? | 15:13 |
| tbarron | jinx | 15:13 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Yes. | 15:14 |
| jungleboyj | We have the driverfixes branch for each release. | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | teh point being distributors are probably looking at those branches to pick up vendor driver fixes? (unsure) | 15:14 |
| bswartz | +1 for driverfixes | 15:14 |
| jungleboyj | gouthamr: They should be. The driver vendors are at least. | 15:14 |
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| gouthamr | jungleboyj: nice... so, can we start doing that in manila.. | 15:14 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: Gave it a plus 1. :-) Would make sense to keep Manila consistent if others agree. | 15:15 |
| zhongjun | +1 It also good for me | 15:15 |
| bswartz | "R-1" mean previous release, not Rocky milestone-1 | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | the community would need to sign up to maintain such branches.. and we'll run bitrot jobs on those like cinder does.. | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | haha happens just once in 26 times bswartz | 15:16 |
| ganso | bswartz: thanks, that had gotten me confused | 15:16 |
| tbarron | it seems like a good idea, I thought I'd ask how the cinder solution has been working out for our distro | 15:16 |
| jprovazn | so vendors then cherry-pick from "driverfixes" whatever they need? | 15:16 |
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| jungleboyj | jprovazn: Right. | 15:17 |
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| gouthamr | jprovazn: yes... vendors can propose fixes into those branches and its up to the distros from there on out.. | 15:17 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: That is a good question. I wonder if the distros have been making use of it. | 15:17 |
| tbarron | jprovazn: driver vendors would put their patches there; vendors would pull from there | 15:17 |
| tbarron | distros would pull from there | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | jprovazn: the theory is that distros would follow that branch and see new patches merge -- distros can follow master today but it's harder to know which bug need backporting at all, and also backport some changes can be hard -- in the driverfixes branch all the merge conflicts would be dealt with already | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | +1.. instead of each driver vendor maintaining their own manila forks someplace else | 15:18 |
| bswartz | the major challenge is testing -- the branch would be officially untested | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | IIRC cinder just runs basic bitrot jobs on driverfixes | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | untested with tempest tests... | 15:19 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: Right. We had to accept that. The assumption is that the vendors are testing well if they are pushing up patches. | 15:19 |
| ganso | pardon my ignorance but what does "bitrot jobs" mean? | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | ganso: py27, unittests | 15:19 |
| bswartz | well it would be between the distros and the vendors to assure quality | 15:19 |
| tbarron | i think we supported this idea for cinder, i just want to check how it worked out, were there any unanticipated consequences, etc. | 15:19 |
| ganso | gouthamr: oh, just that | 15:19 |
| ganso | gouthamr: thanks | 15:19 |
| zhongjun | so we don't need to run our CI too? | 15:20 |
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| jungleboyj | tbarron: I am not aware of any. | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: eharney has had me push some changes into cinder's driverfixes branches ... | 15:20 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: IMO vendors could run CI if they chose too, or not | 15:20 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: thanks, eharney is in another meeting right now and is ignorminng my PM on the subject :) | 15:20 |
| tbarron | so +1 | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | running CI on ancient releases is a challenge for a variety of reasons | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | zhongjun: not a requirement, no.. we're assuming that someday devstack will stop supporting these old branches | 15:21 |
| bswartz | distros happen to specialize at testing and supporting very old things (thanks RedHat/SUSE/etc) | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | zhongjun: and most CIs run devstack | 15:21 |
| xyang1 | tbarron: eharney is probably already pulling fixes from Cinder driverfixes then | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | okay so the concrete actions proposed here are: | 15:22 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: ++ | 15:22 |
| bswartz | * create the branch for newton (since ocata is still open) | 15:23 |
| bswartz | * setup gate jobs | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | * announce that our policy for this branch will match cinder's current policy | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | is that all we need | 15:24 |
| bswartz | ? | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:24 |
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| vponomaryov | only newton? | 15:24 |
| bswartz | and gouthamr is volunteering to the branch and gate stuff? | 15:24 |
| vponomaryov | why not mitaka? | 15:24 |
| bswartz | good point | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: i'd like to do mitaka too | 15:25 |
| bswartz | why not mitaka? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | what about liberty? | 15:25 |
| jungleboyj | Makes sense. | 15:25 |
| xyang1 | Cinder has mistakable | 15:25 |
| ganso | what about kilo? :P | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we have stable/mitaka, but not stable/liberty | 15:25 |
| xyang1 | Mitaka | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | mistakable sounds good xyang1 :) | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1:"mistakable" ^_^ | 15:25 |
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| xyang1 | Autocomplete:) | 15:26 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: the proposal is that a driverfixes branch would be needed as soon as the stable branch became closed to non-critical bugfixes | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 15:26 |
| bswartz | jungleboyj: looks like the bot isn't here | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | table-flip-bot | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I see, I meant that we have some reference branch in that case | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | Awwww, no pewp bot | 15:26 |
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| gouthamr | he ded | 15:26 |
| bswartz | probably just doesn't know about this channel | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: Also, should document that you are supporting this process. | 15:27 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: yes the driverfixes branch would always fork from the stable branch at whatever time the stable branch closes to non-critical bugfixes | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | jungleboyj: after the branches exist I'll do the announcement | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | okay | 15:27 |
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| jungleboyj | bswartz: Ok. | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | #action: gouthamr will propose driverfixes/mitaka and driverfixes/newton branches and project-config changes to run bitrot jobs | 15:28 |
| bswartz | and it's worth noting that critical bugfixes and security bugfixes should go into both the stable branch and the driverfixes branch as long as both branches are active | 15:28 |
| bswartz | does cinder currently do this? ^ | 15:29 |
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| jungleboyj | bswartz: Good point. We should be doing that. I need to make sure we are. | 15:29 |
| jungleboyj | I will follow up on that. | 15:29 |
| ganso | bswartz: the order of merging could diverge and cause cherry-picks into stable branches not suceed cleanly | 15:29 |
| bswartz | ganso: yes | 15:29 |
| bswartz | maintaining branches causes many issues | 15:30 |
| bswartz | that would be the main argument against doing this exercise | 15:30 |
| bswartz | but I think we believe the benefit is worth the cost | 15:30 |
| ganso | bswartz: I guess we just gotta be extra careful... we don't rebase stuff on our repos/branches | 15:30 |
| bswartz | anything else on this topic? | 15:31 |
| bswartz | #topic Open Discussion | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | nope.. | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | any other topics for today? | 15:31 |
| zhongjun | I have a simple one | 15:31 |
| bswartz | yes? | 15:32 |
| zhongjun | As we did it before, we just pop the parameter in old API version when we add a new parameter in API. such as: we add 'is_public' in manage API. Do we really need to raise BadRequest in old API? | 15:32 |
| zhongjun | 22:45 such as: https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/api/v2/shares.py#L187 | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461712/29..32/manila/api/v2/shares.py | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | ^ this is the point of question | 15:33 |
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| zhongjun | Should we check, whether these keys are provided or not. If they are provided with old API , then need to raise "BadRequest" | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | okay zhongjun: this is not a simple one | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | "these keys" are the ones that are supported by newer API and not supported by existing OLD one | 15:33 |
| bswartz | do we have this problem because we're not rejecting extraneous inputs today? | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | yes | 15:34 |
| zhongjun | gouthamr: :) It could be a big change for API | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | we have known for a while that sending invalid inputs doesn't blow up some of our APIs | 15:34 |
| bswartz | I thought there was an effort some time back to validate requests and reject anything that doesn't strictly match what's allowed | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | and for one, queries on all of our APIs | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | you can send any filter key you want iirc and you'll not see 400 BadRequest | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: is that wrong? ^^ | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | if there are places were we allow garbage input today, then the correct thing to do is to fix those places to throw errors and to microversion those changes | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: I consider it a bug, yes | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: then the fix needs to be generic.. i disagree that we add new query parameters and only disallow those in older versions | 15:36 |
| bswartz | however for backwards compatibility, older microversions should continue to allow garbage | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: bug wiiiith looooong grey beard | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: and such a fix should begin at a new microversion | 15:36 |
| xyang1 | gouthamr: +1 | 15:37 |
| bswartz | we can be more nuanced here though | 15:37 |
| bswartz | allowing garbage is only desirable if there is a conceivable reason such garbage would have been sent in an otherwise valid request | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | yes, big nuance is that we have keys that are supported in other microversions and common garbage | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | if the garbage indicates a broken client then it's probably kinder to actually generate an error and let the user know their client is broken | 15:38 |
| bswartz | I'm trying to understand the change in question and the comments here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461712/29..32/manila/api/v2/shares.py | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | (GIGO :) you can't stop all madness.. only some of it) | 15:39 |
| zhongjun | gouthamr: +1 haha | 15:40 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: as you know I have no problem breaking backwards compatibility when the old behaviour was clearly wrong | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | okay, my point there being vponomaryov wanted older microversions to be changed for the query params: export_location_id and export_location_path | 15:40 |
| bswartz | where we need to be careful is when we might break something that currently works fine | 15:41 |
| zhongjun | We have many places now, do we need to fix it? if it is a bug | 15:41 |
| bswartz | it's always a bug if we accept garbage | 15:42 |
| bswartz | the question is whether to fix those bugs by disallowing the garbage always or only after a certain version | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: we used to accept, but ignore.. so zhongjun's previous patch just popped those out of the request dictionary | 15:42 |
| zhongjun | ok, we always accept garbage ：） | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: so it maintained backwards compatible behavior that garbage will be ignored | 15:43 |
| bswartz | okay that sounds like a good thing | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: i agree with vponomaryov that we should never ignore garbage (and we should throw it back at the requestor.. :P) | 15:43 |
| bswartz | I'm still confused about who is arguing for what | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: but that fix should be from a new version.. :) | 15:44 |
| bswartz | WHY IS THERE SO MUCH GARBAGE?!? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: generally speaking, yes | 15:44 |
| jungleboyj | We are a wasteful society. | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | I am ok with error'ing for garbage, but not making it a blocker for existing features | 15:44 |
| zhongjun | May be we alway copy code | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | zhongjun: new API dir for new microversions? ))) | 15:45 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: are you clear on what you need to do? | 15:45 |
| ganso | as long as old microversions still work for the parameters that weren't garbage before, I see no problem | 15:45 |
| bswartz | I think this can be solved with an if statement | 15:45 |
| zhongjun | bswartz: ok, just cleaning garbage from me | 15:45 |
| ganso | btw | 15:46 |
| bswartz | if version >= new version: | 15:46 |
| ganso | I figured maybe a change like this could be worthy of v3 | 15:46 |
| bswartz | garbage is an error | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | ganso: YOU EVIL YOU | 15:46 |
| bswartz | v3 will be needed when we change the versioning scheme itself | 15:46 |
| ganso | gouthamr: lol | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | until then we march towards 2.99999999999999999999999999 | 15:46 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: you tried )) | 15:47 |
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| ganso | vponomaryov: and failed | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | okay other topics? | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | I'm working on a new helper for NFS https://review.openstack.org/476239 | 15:48 |
| bswartz | it's not passing tests yet but I hope it will make things more reliable when its done | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | dejavu | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: this is unrelated to teh ipv6 changes in LVM? | 15:49 |
| tbarron | i like its size | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: heh, no unit tests | 15:49 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: it's not strictly necessary, but I think it might be desirable | 15:50 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: unit tests after it passes functional tests | 15:50 |
| bswartz | anyways I'll ask for reviews when that's actually working | 15:51 |
| ganso | bswartz: it is clearly visible that you don't do TDD | 15:51 |
| bswartz | ganso: that's true | 15:52 |
| bswartz | I'm not trendy | 15:52 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: it's about a third the size in functional code of what it replaces, let's see if it has the same functioinality | 15:52 |
| tbarron | well, bswartz is a trendy dresser | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | haha.. | 15:53 |
| bswartz | okay I think we're done | 15:53 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 15:53 |
| zhongjun | thanks | 15:53 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 15:53:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-06-22-15.00.html | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-06-22-15.00.txt | 15:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-06-22-15.00.log.html | 15:53 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:54 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting Security | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 17:01:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Security)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | welp... I take a few weeks off! - All alone :P | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | A reminder that we have the standing etherpad agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 17:06:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-06-22-17.01.html | 17:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-06-22-17.01.txt | 17:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-06-22-17.01.log.html | 17:06 |
| vds | o/ )sorry I'm late) | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | no worries vds I called it early - looks like its been quiet around here recently! | 17:10 |
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| vds | hyakuhei: yep | 17:10 |
| vds | very quiet | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | We'll have to fix that now I'm back | 17:10 |
| vds | hyakuhei: I'm happy to help | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks. I'll send something out to the mailing list in the next few days. | 17:11 |
| vds | OK | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | Thanks for coming by | 17:12 |
| vds | np | 17:12 |
| dave-mccowan | hyakuhei any plans for PTG? | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Hey Dave. | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | I'm not sure we'd be able to bring the people together to justify it | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | However, I might be able to swing it for specific security reviews perhaps | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | We're a bit thin on the ground over here atm | 17:14 |
| dave-mccowan | hyakuhei barbican seems to be in the same boat. we have a room for Wed and Thurs, but only 'maybes' so far for RSVPs. | 17:14 |
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| dave-mccowan | i'm willing to go for barbican and/or security, but i'm afraid to be sitting in an empty room :-) | 17:15 |
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| hyakuhei | Heh yes, I know the concern | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | s/know/share | 17:24 |
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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 18:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:00 |
| zemuvier | hi | 18:00 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 18:00 |
| tellesnobrega | waiting for people to show up | 18:02 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky will be here soon | 18:02 |
| tellesnobrega | yeah | 18:02 |
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| tosky | here I am | 18:04 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 18:04 |
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| tellesnobrega | I'm working on internal stuff as well as the image gen, CDH is ready for new reviews | 18:04 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448712/ | 18:05 |
| tosky | apart from the internal stuff, I'm trying to test the current master with Sahara services deployed inside containers using TripleO | 18:05 |
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| tosky | (the feature landed few days ago) | 18:05 |
| tellesnobrega | other than that, I'm working in iwona on the import and export of templates | 18:05 |
| tellesnobrega | I will ask questions later about that | 18:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | I'm working on a few downstream requests. Some extra config option about proxy_command, some additional sahara-extra auth stuff. should be upstream for this release | 18:06 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | Also looking into Vanilla upgrade, but have some mild concerns about it, plus waiting for stable Hadoop 2.8.1 to land | 18:07 |
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| tosky | which kind of concerns (or maybe we can talk about them under a separate topic) | 18:08 |
| jeremyfreudberg | mainly timeline concerns, about new CI and the HBase on Vanilla that yingya was working on | 18:09 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | a separate topic is probably better | 18:09 |
| tenobreg | sorry, apparently my internet went down | 18:09 |
| tenobreg | I'm back now | 18:09 |
| tosky | uh, that may be a problem for closing the meeting (you should regain your identity) | 18:10 |
| tenobreg | trying | 18:10 |
| tenobreg | i will probably drop and I will change it later | 18:10 |
| tenobreg | #chair tosky | 18:10 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that should work | 18:10 |
| tenobreg | not sure if I can set you as chair so you can close it | 18:10 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | you should be good now anyway | 18:11 |
| tosky | you can't set me as chair until you are chair :) | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | now I'm myself again | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | :) | 18:11 |
| tosky | I'd suggest to set someone else as chair right now | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | #chair tosky | 18:11 |
| openstack | Current chairs: tellesnobrega tosky | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | just in case | 18:11 |
| tosky | now it seems to work | 18:11 |
| tosky | oki | 18:11 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, I missed most of what you said, so anytime you want a new topic to come up let me know and I will set it | 18:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | sure | 18:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | did you miss everything i said? | 18:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | or just some | 18:12 |
| tellesnobrega | I just the last line | 18:12 |
| tellesnobrega | saying it would be better on another topic | 18:13 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | yeah. My main update was "I'm working on a few downstream requests. Some extra config option about proxy_command, some additional sahara-extra auth stuff. should be upstream for this release". But then I want to spend a few minutes talking about logistics of Vanilla plugin upgrade | 18:13 |
| tellesnobrega | sounds good | 18:14 |
| tellesnobrega | quick topic about PTG | 18:14 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Queens PTG | 18:14 |
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| tellesnobrega | does anybody has news on being able to attend or not? | 18:14 |
| tellesnobrega | most folks aren't here, but we haven't heard from zemuvier | 18:14 |
| tellesnobrega | zemuvier, are you planning to attend PTG? does it depend entirely on TSP? | 18:15 |
| zemuvier | yes, esikachev and I have been sent a request to travel support programm | 18:15 |
| zemuvier | so I hope we can join this PTG | 18:15 |
| tellesnobrega | great, let us know when you get updates | 18:15 |
| zemuvier | sure | 18:15 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 18:15 |
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| tellesnobrega | #topic Documentation Migration | 18:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Documentation Migration (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:16 | |
| tellesnobrega | about this, not sure if you guys has a chance to read this spec | 18:16 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/13 | 18:16 |
| asettle | Thank you, tellesnobrega | 18:16 |
| * asettle peaks in | 18:16 | |
| tellesnobrega | asettle, no worries | 18:16 |
| tellesnobrega | basic idea is, project related documentation is being migrated back into project repo, there is a really detailed guideline on the spec on how this is being achieved | 18:17 |
| jeremyfreudberg | I think that's fine by us, I think most of us tend to forget about sahara stuff in openstack-manuals anyway | 18:18 |
| tellesnobrega | the goal is to finish phase 1 in pike iirc, (asettle feel free to jump in) | 18:18 |
| tosky | so is it this about the installation/user documentation? Because we already have some documentation (developer) in the repository | 18:18 |
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| asettle | tosky: yes :) | 18:19 |
| tellesnobrega | it is installation/user/contributors should be on sahara repo and cli info should be in python-saharaclient repo, I do think that we won't have a big problem with this | 18:19 |
| asettle | The openstack-manuals team managers user and operator and contributor info :) | 18:19 |
| asettle | Yeh, you got it tellesnobrega :) | 18:19 |
| tellesnobrega | I want to know if anyone of is willing to take the lead on this (making sure it is where it should) | 18:20 |
| tosky | oh, ok; I guess I need to read the spec, but is there something that will be done by the doc team which will have to start with? I mean, will they provide the list of things to be moved, and we moved from there? | 18:20 |
| tosky | or we need to check all the bits that we have inside openstack-manuals? | 18:21 |
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| tosky | no problem in both cases, just to know | 18:21 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, it is already described on the spec | 18:22 |
| tosky | ack | 18:22 |
| tosky | time to RTFM | 18:22 |
| tellesnobrega | basically yes | 18:23 |
| tellesnobrega | for now I will be leading the effort, and if anyone wants to help out let me knoe | 18:23 |
| tellesnobrega | know | 18:23 |
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| tellesnobrega | #topic Vanilla Plugin Upgrade | 18:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vanilla Plugin Upgrade (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:26 | |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, you are up | 18:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tellesnobrega, great | 18:26 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | So as everyone knows, plugin upgrade is high priority for every release. And it has been long time since Vanilla upgrade. I am looking into Hadoop 2.8.x and Spark 2.1.0 on Vanilla plugin for Pike. Some issues are 1) waiting for stable Hadoop 2.8.1 to release 2) getting some artifacts uploaded to sahara-files 3) waiting for new CI and 4) coordinating with Yingya about Hbase on Vanilla | 18:28 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | In particular #2 and #3 are good to discuss here | 18:28 |
| tellesnobrega | ok | 18:28 |
| tellesnobrega | so about #3, I'm waiting for response from red hat to see if we can get resources to deploy the new CI here, having a meeting with my manager soon and will ask if he got any responses | 18:29 |
| tellesnobrega | about #2, what artifacts are we talking about? | 18:29 |
| tosky | for #3 there is a possible alternative way: check how much infra resources can we (ab)use with a multinode jobs | 18:29 |
| tosky | Vitaly nicely created a multinode Spark jobs, I suspect that a simple Vanilla jobs may not be too much resource-consuming | 18:30 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, true | 18:30 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky, good points | 18:30 |
| tosky | that can't probably scale for CDH or MapR | 18:30 |
| tosky | but Vanilla, maybe | 18:30 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tellesnobrega, about artifacts we definitely need new Oozie and new "Hadoop native libs" | 18:31 |
| jeremyfreudberg | and maybe something else I'm forgetting | 18:31 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, we need to contact infra team to figure that out right? | 18:31 |
| tosky | yep | 18:31 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, I know I ask this a lot to you, but can you ping infra team about that? | 18:31 |
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| tosky | I can | 18:32 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, thanks :) | 18:33 |
| jeremyfreudberg | thanks tosky | 18:33 |
| tellesnobrega | #action tosky to ping infra about how much resource we can use for vanilla testing on openstack ci | 18:33 |
| tosky | (or push a review with a new a job and see what happens, while trying to look innocent) | 18:34 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, there is always that option | 18:35 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, abour sahara-files, it resides on mirantis right? | 18:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yep, it is a mirantis domain pointing to their rackspace cloud storage | 18:36 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, it is still up, probably have to check with zemuvier how to send files there | 18:36 |
| tellesnobrega | and if we can expect it to be running for a while | 18:36 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, would be good to know. | 18:36 |
| tellesnobrega | zemuvier, ^ | 18:37 |
| zemuvier | yes, i think it's still up, but i'm not sure | 18:37 |
| zemuvier | i can find it out a little bit later | 18:37 |
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| tellesnobrega | thanks :) | 18:38 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | zemuvier, thanks | 18:38 |
| tellesnobrega | #action zemuvier to look into sahara-files and figure out if will be kept running and how to upload new resources to it | 18:38 |
| tellesnobrega | zemuvier, sounds good ^ | 18:38 |
| tellesnobrega | ? | 18:38 |
| zemuvier | tellesnobrega: yes, okay :) | 18:39 |
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| tellesnobrega | thanks | 18:40 |
| tosky | I thought that we already started pushing some resources outside sahara-files (apart from the images, which needs some changes in the storage amount) | 18:40 |
| tosky | iirc we push something to tarballs.openstack.org | 18:40 |
| jeremyfreudberg | actually, tosky has a good point, this stuff is small enough to push to infra-team managed tarballs site | 18:40 |
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| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, even better | 18:40 |
| jeremyfreudberg | https://tarballs.openstack.org/sahara/dist/ would be the place | 18:41 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, perfect | 18:41 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://tarballs.openstack.org/sahara/dist/ | 18:41 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | so I guess really the question is how to upload to there, and also have some migration plan? | 18:42 |
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| tellesnobrega | that sounds about right | 18:44 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, I will have you figure that out, sounds good? | 18:44 |
| jeremyfreudberg | sure | 18:44 |
| tosky | just check the history of the sahara jobs in project-config | 18:44 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yep | 18:44 |
| jeremyfreudberg | I believe it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367271/ ,fyi | 18:46 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but I will certainly get as much info as I can | 18:47 |
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| tosky | that's for the publishing, yes; the build part was already there and you can find it easily from the job names | 18:50 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yep | 18:51 |
| tosky | as it is controlled by the script in sahara-extras, you may not even need a new job | 18:52 |
| jeremyfreudberg | right | 18:52 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | tellesnobrega, anything else to discuss? | 18:55 |
| tellesnobrega | not from me | 18:56 |
| tosky | oh, just a note | 18:56 |
| tosky | I suggested Telles to create some x.y.z tags at least for Ocata; sahara-image-elements have few changes | 18:56 |
| jeremyfreudberg | makes sense to me | 18:57 |
| tosky | maybe also for Newton (even if the end of phase 2, in one or two months, could be a good time too) | 18:57 |
| tosky | oki :) | 18:57 |
| tosky | nothing else from me | 18:57 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | tosky, end the meeting | 19:00 |
| tosky | uh | 19:01 |
| tosky | thanks all! | 19:01 |
| tosky | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 19:01:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-06-22-18.00.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-06-22-18.00.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-06-22-18.00.log.html | 19:01 |
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