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masahitohi all, time to blazar meeting :-)09:00
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 11 09:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:00
masahito#topic RoleCall09:01
*** openstack changes topic to "RoleCall (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:01
hiro-kobayashio/09:01
masahito#topic RollCall09:01
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hritoo/09:01
priteauo/09:01
tejaswio/09:01
masahitosorry, wrong topic.09:01
masahitotoday's agenda is..09:01
masahito1. Denver PTG09:01
masahito2. Sydney Summit CFP09:02
masahito3. status update09:02
masahito4. AOB09:02
bertyso/09:02
masahitoanything else?09:02
masahito#topic Denver PTG09:03
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masahitowe can't have official time slots in the PTG, but it's good to discuss the priorities to the next release at that time.09:04
hiro-kobayashi+109:05
masahitofirst question is should we have physical meetup or virtual meetup?09:05
priteauFor sure I won't be in Denver. I am not even sure that I would be able to attend a virtual meetup.09:05
masahitoI heard some of main contributors can't come to the PTG.09:05
hiro-kobayashiI'm sorry but I cannot attend physically09:06
masahitogot it.09:07
masahitovirtual meetup sounds good to us.09:08
hritoI can attend virtual meetup09:09
masahitopriteau: if the meetup is different week, does it work?09:09
priteauI can't predict in advance ;-) Choose the date most convenient for you, and I will do my best to join.09:09
masahitopriteau: got it.09:10
masahitoI'll organize the meetup in the week of PTG.09:10
hiro-kobayashithanks!09:11
masahito#action make arrangements of the virtual meetup for Q release (masahito)09:11
masahitoI'll check and listing the time zone we could join to next meeting or later.09:12
masahitoanything else for the PTG?09:12
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masahito#topic SydneySummit CFP09:13
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masahitowe discussed it's good to propose project's official talk for the summit last week.09:14
masahitothe idea of the talk is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-cfp-sydney09:14
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: thanks for preparing the etherpad page.09:15
hiro-kobayashimasahito: my pleasure :-)09:15
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masahitocurrent idea is 'project update' talk.09:16
masahitothis talk looks good to me.09:16
priteau+109:16
hiro-kobayashi+109:17
hiro-kobayashiWe should chose presenters09:17
masahitodoes someone have other ideas?09:17
masahitohiro-kobayashi: go ahead.09:18
hiro-kobayashipriteau: you cannot join the summit, right?09:18
priteauSorry, I cannot go to Sydney09:18
hiro-kobayashipriteau: ok09:18
masahitobertys: tejaswi: do you have a plan to go there?09:19
tejaswimasahito: I cannot go to the summit09:19
bertysmasahito: not decided yet09:19
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tejaswimasahito: I asked Tariq or Arun to let Gerald and you know if they are going to the summit09:20
masahitotejaswi: bertys: ok09:20
masahitotejaswi: oh, I see.09:20
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hiro-kobayashifor project update session, we should care diversity of company09:21
masahitoas someone wrote the etherpad, it's good to present the talk from different companies.09:21
hiro-kobayashi+109:21
masahitohiro-kobayashi: right.09:22
hiro-kobayashiAnd I think it's better PTL makes a presentation, how do you think?09:22
masahitoif no one can't attend, I'm okay to be listed there.09:23
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: I think so.09:23
hiro-kobayashiAshiq could also join09:23
priteaumasahito: It would be great if you can present09:24
masahitobut if someone more than two is ok to be listed there, I'll pass the seat to them.09:24
hiro-kobayashiIt's good that presenters will be masahito, Ashiq, and ideally from different company09:24
masahitothe presenter could be hiro-kobayashi, me and someone.09:25
hiro-kobayashiif no one from other company, of course I can join09:25
hiro-kobayashimasahito: We are in same company, so ideally both of us should not join09:26
hiro-kobayashiHow about asking r-mibu?09:26
hiro-kobayashior someone from HPE09:26
masahitobertys: do you know GeraldK will be there?09:27
bertysmasahito: also not decided for GeraldK09:27
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bertysIf Ashiq can go to Sydney, I or GeraldK will be there as well09:29
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masahitoIMO, the presenter should have some activities in P cycle. So the candidates are r-mibu, GeraldK or bertys, based on the discussion.09:29
masahitoactivities means reviewing patches/pushing patches/reporting bugs/sending an email/etc...09:30
hiro-kobayashiI thinks Ashiq is also a candidate09:31
hiro-kobayashibecause he made a presentation about Blazar at OPNFV Summit. That's also a contribution to Blazar09:31
masahitohiro-kobayashi: oh, yeah. right.09:32
masahitothen, I'll ping all whether it's ok to be listed or not.09:33
hiro-kobayashithanks09:33
masahitohiro-kobayashi: if no one is not ok or not decided to go there, then we can submit it with you and me as a presenter.09:34
hiro-kobayashiOK09:34
masahitothen let's add them later if needed :-)09:35
masahitoanything else for the CFP.09:36
masahito#topic status update09:37
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masahitodoes someone have updates to share?09:38
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hiro-kobayashiCan I?09:38
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hiro-kobayashiI've pushed a patch of Blazar-dashboard https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480331/09:39
masahitohiro-kobayashi: sure, you have a floor09:39
hiro-kobayashiThanks a lot, priteau09:39
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priteauNo problem!09:39
hiro-kobayashiThe patch does not include calendar view09:39
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hiro-kobayashiAnd it does not access Blazar DB09:40
bertyshiro-kobayashi: well done for a first version09:40
bertyspriteau: thanks09:40
hiro-kobayashibertys: thanks for your review!09:41
masahitohiro-kobayashi: thanks the great work!09:41
masahitoI'll review it.09:41
hiro-kobayashimasahito: thanks09:41
hiro-kobayashiAnd I've been working on the update-reserved-capacity blueprint09:42
masahitohiro-kobayashi: do you have a plan to push the calendar view in Pike?09:42
hiro-kobayashimasahito: It depends on the copyright09:43
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hiro-kobayashipriteau: Please let me know if copyright for the calendar view getting clear09:44
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: I see. please add a blueprint for the calendar view if you don't push the patch to P cycle.09:45
priteauSure I will. But I think maybe a rewrite would allow us to make sure it uses libraries that are OK for Horizon and add support in the API for fetching the required data09:45
hiro-kobayashimasahito: OK09:45
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masahitoit's a remainder and we can think of implementing our own new view or not as a priority for Q cycle.09:46
hiro-kobayashipriteau: thanks. ideally yes we should rewrite it more safely09:46
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: anything else?09:47
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hiro-kobayashiyes. I'll push a patch for update-reserved-capacity bp in this week09:48
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hiro-kobayashiso please review it, too :-)09:48
hiro-kobayashiThat's all from my side09:48
masahitohiro-kobayashi: great! thanks a lots!09:48
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masahitook, I'll do my quick update.09:49
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masahitoI pushed some patches for the new instance reservation.09:49
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hiro-kobayashiThanks for a lot of works for it!09:49
masahitothanks all for reviewing it!09:50
masahitothe patches is listed here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/new-instance-reservation09:50
masahitomost of main logic is pushed already, so I'm checking it in my local now.09:51
bertys masahito: same here09:51
masahitothat's from my side.09:51
masahitolast 8 mins.09:52
priteauThanks masahito and hiro-kobayashi09:52
priteauOn my side I am pushing patches that have been developed in Chameleon in the last 2.5 years09:53
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priteauTwo merged, two in review, still a few more to come09:53
masahitopriteau: it's nice work.09:53
hiro-kobayashithanks!09:53
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masahitowe're receiving feedbacks from operators and fixing it. The development cycle is great!09:54
masahitoanything else for status update?09:56
masahito#topic AOB09:57
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masahitohiro-kobayashi and me can't join next meeting. Should we skip or not?09:58
masahitoBased on the previous meeting, we skipped the meeting if two of us can't join a meeting.09:58
bertysok for me to skip09:59
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priteauFine for me10:00
masahitook. then skip the next meeting.10:00
masahitoI'll send it to openstack-dev ML at this Fri. if you want to have the meeting, please let me know ;-)10:01
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masahitorunning out of time10:02
masahitoThanks all!10:02
priteauThanks everyone, bye10:02
bertysbye all10:02
masahito#endmeeting10:02
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hiro-kobayashibye!10:02
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felipemonteiro__#startmeeting murano13:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 11 13:01:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is felipemonteiro__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
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felipemonteiro__#topic Roll Call13:01
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felipemonteiro__hi devray13:05
devrayhi13:05
kzaitsev_wso/13:05
* kzaitsev_ws tentatively here13:05
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felipemonteiro__kzaitsev_ws: no problem13:06
felipemonteiro__#topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas13:07
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felipemonteiro__hi zhurong_phone13:07
felipemonteiro__zhurong: thanks for fixing all the dashboard bugs recently, some of those were high priority13:08
kzaitsev_wsthe docs reorg has been merged, so probably now murano docs migration is complete =)13:10
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zhurong_phoneyou are welcome13:12
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felipemonteiro__kzaitsev_ws: yes, thanks to you and zhurong13:12
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felipemonteiro__anyone have thoughts about cleaning up murano-deployment, it was used for murano-ci which is now gone.13:14
zhurong_phonewe can use the infra ci13:15
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felipemonteiro__right, but the repo itself isn't really useful right now, it's just dead code13:16
zhurong_phonejust now we can reuse some codes13:17
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kzaitsev_wsfelipemonteiro__: do you want to just drop it?13:18
kzaitsev_wsor remove it from murano project tent13:18
felipemonteiro__that's what i was getting at. because it will be confusing for people in the future when looking through the code.13:18
kzaitsev_wswell afaik infra doesn't like to delete the projects13:19
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kzaitsev_wsso instead we can move it to deprecated space13:19
kzaitsev_wsand delete all the content with one last commit, saying that this repo is not used anymore13:19
kzaitsev_wsI've seen that aproach somewhere13:20
zhurong_phoneadd some desception in the readme13:20
felipemonteiro__that's a good plan13:21
felipemonteiro__description?13:21
felipemonteiro__if we all agree that it should be removed i'll create an action item to do that this week13:22
kzaitsev_wslike this project has been deprecated, see "hash-id" for last working content13:22
kzaitsev_wsdoesn't look like anyone in mirantis is going to tackle the thing, since it stopped working with xenial =(13:22
kzaitsev_wswe can try to reach out to freerunner and mkarpin one last time before we nuke the thing13:23
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kzaitsev_wsfelipemonteiro__: https://github.com/openstack/nova-docker13:23
kzaitsev_wshere's the example I'm talking about13:23
felipemonteiro__ok, np. i can also send an email to sergmelikyan for confirmation as well.13:23
felipemonteiro__kzaitsev_ws: thanks13:24
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felipemonteiro__any other items? otherwise i'll move to open discussion13:25
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felipemonteiro__#topic Open Discussion13:26
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pbourkehi all sorry am late13:26
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zhurong_phonefelipemonteiro__:  Do you have any plan to summit murano project update?13:27
kzaitsev_wsfelipemonteiro__: also here is how the projects are moved to legacy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475721/13:27
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felipemonteiro__pbourke: hi thanks for joining13:27
kzaitsev_wsso if we wish to nuke the thing we should move the repo to legacy.yaml (if it's under murano tent in projects.yaml)13:28
felipemonteiro__kzaitsev_ws: right, i saw that a few days ago. would that be relevant for murano-deployment, which isn't an openstack project per se, just a repo underneath the murano umbrella13:28
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pbourkefelipemonteiro__: kzaitsev_ws: thanks for reviews on the encryption stuff, am working on addressing your comments atm13:29
kzaitsev_wspbourke: hi. I wanted to reach out to you to ask you to update the spec to match implementation )13:29
pbourkekzaitsev_ws: yes, I thought I had. Which piece in particular do you feel doesn't match?13:29
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felipemonteiro__zhurong_phone: you mean outline murano goals in a spec or something in governance?13:30
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kzaitsev_wshm. maybe that was my bad and I was reading wrong revision %)13:31
kzaitsev_wslooks like you already did )13:31
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zhurong_phonefelipemonteiro__: np the topic in Sydney summit murano project update13:32
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zhurong_phonekzaitsev_ws: do you have plan to go to Sydney?13:33
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pbourkefelipemonteiro__: also had a question around https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480848 - it seems some of the attachment info code was removed without much explanation in the commit message13:33
pbourkefelipemonteiro__: have the cinder tests stabilised since its removal? As I found them problematic even before the attachments patch merged13:34
kzaitsev_wszhurong_phone: idk yet =) I'm working on submitting a talk and if that is accepted I'll go. although even then its not 100% =)13:34
felipemonteiro__zhurong_phone: tbh i wasn't planning on attending the summit due to limited contribution this cycle, although i could manage to go if the talk is accepted13:35
freerunnerhey folks. Sorry for my absence on meetings and overall absence... kzaitsev_ws I tried to resurrect murano-ci, finally, it looks, that I broke our zuul. We have needed jobs which should be triggered, but zuul don't want to trigger it. Just waiting for mkarpin - he is on vacation now, AFAIK. I will try to ping him asap.13:36
felipemonteiro__pbourke: i believe zhurong_phone removed that code, but looking back at it, you're right that we should've made a note of that in the commit message13:36
gbuteaupbourke:, I was seeing a problem with the attachment_list being cached by heat, I filed this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/170360513:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1703605 in heat "Cinder volume attachments_list attribute should not be cached" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Gerry Buteau (gerry.buteau)13:36
pbourkegbuteau: looks good thanks13:37
pbourkeI think the above removal was a little hasty just as it seems the feature is now half in - half out13:37
zhurong_phoneI think we can submit the murano project update. thus maybe we can get more contributors13:37
gbuteauThis may have been why the tests were failing originally13:37
zhurong_phoneagree with gbuteau13:38
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pbourkekzaitsev_ws: would you like to remove the +a from the spec just for a moment so we can address the issue of what happens when barbican isn't available?13:40
kzaitsev_wspbourke: np13:41
kzaitsev_wsdid that13:41
pbourkekzaitsev_ws: thanks13:41
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pbourkegbuteau: im just getting my environment back up and running to revisit these patches, keep in touch if you have any break throughs :)13:42
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zhurong_phonethis is the bug in heat, once solved, we can revert my patch13:43
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pbourkehopefully that's all it is13:44
gbuteau zhurong_phone: I also added this murano bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/170338713:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1703387 in Murano "cinder volume attachments are no longer available" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Gerry Buteau (gerry.buteau)13:45
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zhurong_phonegbuteau: thanks, we can track this bug13:46
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gbuteauzhurong_phone: thanks, I'll try to post a heat patch today13:47
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felipemonteiro__zhurong_phone: i can submit the murano talk update... do you intend on going to the summit yourself?13:50
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zhurong_phonecan you add kzaitsev_ws and me in the murano project update talk?13:51
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felipemonteiro__zhurong_phone: of course, that was the plan :)13:52
zhurong_phonefelipemonteiro__:  thanks13:52
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felipemonteiro__5 mins left13:55
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felipemonteiro__zhurong_phone: i'll submit it today, there's not much time left for submissions13:57
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zhurong_phonefelipemonteiro__: Thanks for doing this13:57
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felipemonteiro__thanks for joining everyone, we're out of time13:59
felipemonteiro__zhruong_phone: np, i'll pink you and kzaitsev_ws later13:59
felipemonteiro__with update13:59
felipemonteiro__#endmeeting13:59
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EmilienM#startmeeting tripleo14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 11 14:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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matbuo/14:00
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EmilienM#topic agenda14:01
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adarazso/14:01
EmilienM* review past action items14:01
EmilienM* one off agenda items14:01
ccamachoo\14:01
EmilienM* bugs14:01
EmilienM* Projects releases or stable backports14:01
EmilienM* CI14:01
EmilienM* Specs14:01
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EmilienM* open discussion14:01
EmilienMAnyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ14:01
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EmilienMHi everyone! who is around today?14:01
* EmilienM slow today14:01
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EmilienM#topic review past action items14:02
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EmilienMteam to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478516/14:02
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EmilienMpanda isn't here but I see the patch needs some love14:02
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trowno/14:02
EmilienMI'll check with him14:02
beagleso/14:02
EmilienM#topic one off agenda items14:02
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EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items14:03
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EmilienMgfidente: go ahead14:03
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gfidenteso I think we got up for review the remaining submissions to test ceph-ansible in ci14:03
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gfidentemy question is if it should replace the old environment file so that jobs previously using ceph now uses ceph-ansible14:03
gfidenteor if we should have separate jobs14:03
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EmilienMhow do you manage upgrades?14:04
gfidente /me would like the first option more14:04
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gfidenteEmilienM that is a ceph-ansible playbook which we trigger from a heat parameter14:04
florianfo/14:04
EmilienMso your option would force everyone to deploy the new thing?14:04
gfidentemy option would keep the existing puppet-ceph services but default the existing environment files to use ceph-ansible yes14:04
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trownwill we have tripleo jobs running on ceph-ansible changes?14:05
gfidentetrown good questions, we don't have yet, this was discussed but it's totally WIP14:06
gfidenteso the answer is no14:06
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gfidenteright now we own ceph-ansible builds in cbs, but we don't have ci for ceph-ansible against tripleo14:06
trownthat seems prone to ci outages14:06
EmilienMunless we have CI coverage for ceph-ansible, I don't see any point to switch to it14:06
gfidentethough that is our only option to deploy ceph in containers today14:06
trownya, maybe we need to first add the patches that enable turning it on, but keeping default to puppet-ceph14:07
EmilienMif we had ceph-ansible in our promotion pipeline (packaging in RDO, etc), then fine14:07
trownthen get tripleo CI running on ceph-ansible14:07
EmilienMyes, I would have seen a CI job like it was the plan but never came up14:08
trownif we get enabling patches in, we could always run container job that way14:08
gfidenteEmilienM so no right now it's not subject to promotion, we manually tag the package for testing in the cbs repos and later release14:08
EmilienMmaybe you can switch multinode-scenario001-container to use ceph-ansible14:08
EmilienMgfidente: jobs are voting. Everything manual will be error prone and break our CI. Multinode container job breaks almost every day nowadays14:08
gfidenteEmilienM okay I'll look into that14:08
gfidenteEmilienM yeah we have to put up automation in ceph-ansible CI14:09
EmilienMeverything that isn't tested and isn't in promotion pipeline shouldn't be in gate.14:09
weshay+114:09
EmilienMgfidente: so make it work in multinode-scenario001-container and add ceph-ansible to rdo packaging where we can control its version from rdoinfo.14:10
EmilienMonce we have that, it's a bit more solid and we can maybe consider it into the gate again14:10
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gfidenteack, thanks14:10
EmilienManything else for this week before we move to the regular agenda?14:10
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gfidente(not sure if we can make it into rdo packaging actually, but that's a different conversation I think)14:11
EmilienMgfidente: something that our delivery team can control the version14:11
EmilienMgfidente: folks who manage ceph-ansible are in europe - if something breaks who will be around?14:11
EmilienMwe want to be able to control tags / bumps from a single place, like we do for almost everything else14:12
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EmilienMto me it makes sense to have ceph-ansible part of rdo (with a distgit and a version control)14:12
gfidenteEmilienM yeah I think I get the point14:12
EmilienMbut yeah we can discuss it offline14:12
EmilienMgfidente: maybe on #rdo after this meeting14:13
EmilienMwith apevec & the team14:13
gfidenteEmilienM sure if you can, thanks14:13
EmilienMcool, let's do that14:13
EmilienM#action gfidente & EmilienM to figure out where if whether or not we package ceph-ansible in RDO14:13
EmilienM#action gfidente to add ceph-ansible to multinode-scenario001-container job14:14
EmilienM#topic bugs14:14
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EmilienM#link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-314:14
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EmilienMis there any critical bug we need to discuss this week?14:14
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EmilienManything outstanding?14:14
EmilienMI see https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/170359914:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1703599 in tripleo "Containers multinode job deploying an empty overcloud" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Jiří Stránský (jistr)14:15
EmilienMjistr|call: is it the only patch that needs to be merged? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48254514:15
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jistr|callEmilienM: for deploy job, yes. We have another one for upgrade job.14:15
EmilienMjistr|call: what change caused this bug? I'm curious - we gate all tripleo projects on containers14:16
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jistr|callEmilienM: it went to quickstart-extras where we don't run the multinode job. The OOOQ job passed on it, somewhat strangely.14:16
EmilienMwe need to fix that14:16
EmilienMsshnaidm: can you check if we run enough jobs in oooq-extras?14:17
weshaythe multinode puppet jobs run on extras14:17
sshnaidmEmilienM, I'll add multinode containers to extras14:17
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EmilienMsshnaidm: thank you sir14:17
EmilienMweshay: not containers14:17
jistr|callweshay: sorry i meant we don't run multinode-containers there14:17
weshayah.. I see but not containers14:17
weshayya14:17
mwhahahawe should have all oooq jobs on oooq-extras14:18
EmilienMsshnaidm: maybe one is enough for now, not all scenarios but just gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode14:18
sshnaidmEmilienM, yeah, right14:18
EmilienMor all scenarios - really I wouldn't mind14:18
EmilienMmwhahaha: yes I agree14:18
EmilienMthe maximum we can add, please add14:18
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mwhahahaat least all oooq jobs that are voting14:18
EmilienMso we reduce the breakages14:18
sshnaidmyeah, all gates14:18
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EmilienMsshnaidm: can you take this one?14:19
sshnaidmEmilienM, sure14:19
EmilienM#action sshnaidm to add missing oooq jobs in oooq-extras which are already gating somewhere in tripleo14:19
EmilienMsshnaidm: thx14:19
EmilienMany other bug to discuss this week?14:19
EmilienM#topic projects releases or stable backports14:20
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EmilienM#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html14:20
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EmilienMwe're 2 weeks from pike-3 milestone14:20
EmilienMnext week is Final release for non-client libraries14:20
EmilienMI think tripleo-common and maybe some others14:21
EmilienMwe'll discuss more about pike-3 next week14:22
EmilienMwe still have a bunch of blueprints in progress14:22
EmilienMif you could help by updating your blueprints / bug in Launchpad, it would be awesome14:22
EmilienMbecause when I do it myself it's in ninja mode and not so good ;-)14:22
EmilienMany question about release management before we go ahead?14:23
jpichWe usually treat "tripleo-common" as "other" (internal component), not a library as it tends to be need updates right to the end14:23
EmilienMjpich: right, I just checked in openstack/releases - it's other14:23
EmilienMso we shouldn't have anything to release by next week14:23
shardyYeah agreed it's probably too early to freeze t-c14:23
EmilienMjpich: thanks for the correction14:24
jpichOk, cool!14:24
EmilienM#topic CI14:24
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EmilienMadarazs, panda, sshnaidm, weshay, trown : any outstanding updates on CI this week?14:24
shardyweshay: Hey any update on the conversion of the 3nodes job to quickstart?14:24
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shardyI'd like to get coverage of multinode (more than one node) w/containers+HA14:25
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sshnaidmEmilienM, former ovb-updates jobs transited to oooq and successfully runs14:25
shardybut I kinda stopped looking into it as I was under the impression we were on the verge of quickstarting the existing 3nodes job14:25
shardyif that's not imminent we should probably go ahead and add the coverage with the old scripts as a stopgap14:25
shardybut I'm a little wary of doing the work twice..14:26
EmilienMsshnaidm: cool, we could update tripleo.org/cistatus.html maybe14:26
sshnaidmEmilienM, I have a patch, waiting for fixing gates14:26
adarazsEmilienM: I'm working on adding a static "readme" footer for our logs on logs.openstack.org, hopefully this can go through: https://review.openstack.org/48221014:26
EmilienMI think trown was about to look at the 3-nodes thing but I might be wrong14:26
weshayshardy, our backlog and status is here https://trello.com/b/U1ITy0cu/tripleo-ci-squad14:26
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EmilienMadarazs: really cool14:27
weshayshardy, no progress afaik14:27
trownEmilienM: not on my radar no14:27
EmilienMah ok14:27
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EmilienMadarazs: ping #openstack-infra if you need review - none of us is core on it14:27
shardyweshay: Ok, should we have a discussion re priorities and the 3nodes stuff perhaps?14:27
EmilienMadarazs: but I'll review it anyway14:27
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weshayshardy, yes.. we can do that14:27
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shardythe issue is we need coverage of HA w/containers, then rolling updates w HA/containers14:28
adarazsEmilienM: ack, I added pabelanger and ajaeger, but I might ping them directly too.14:28
weshayshardy, adarazs can you add that to the schedule for thrs tripleo-ci-squad mtg and invite shardy14:28
shardythe latter is net-new coverage, and I'm not super motivated to do it twice, or ask someone to do the work only for it to be immediately redone14:28
shardyas was the case e.g with upgrades in the past14:28
weshayshardy, understood14:28
shardyweshay: thanks!14:28
pabelangerfeel free to ping me, I am back from PTO today14:29
adarazsshardy, weshay: I'll add an agenda item on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-squad-meeting for it.14:30
shardyadarazs: ack sounds good, thanks!14:30
EmilienMcool, thanks14:30
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shardyfor now perhaps I'll post a WIP patch hijacking the exisitng 3nodes job to show what we'd like to test14:30
EmilienMshardy: good idea14:31
EmilienMshardy: you might have some changes to do in tripleo-ci repo maybe14:31
shardyEmilienM: yeah, I'll take a look14:31
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EmilienMfor the 3-nodes environment - but not sure if really needed, just fyi14:31
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EmilienManything else CI related for this week?14:31
shardyyeah it uses a custom role which isn't strictly required but should work for HA+Containers I think14:31
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EmilienMgood news14:32
matbuadarazs: weshay tripleo-ci mtg is on thursday right ?14:32
matbui'll join as well with shardy14:32
adarazsmatbu: yeah, 14:30 UTC14:32
adarazsI'll add you to the pinglist :)14:32
matbuadarazs: ack14:32
matbuadarazs: thx14:32
EmilienMadarazs: I'll be able to join this week as well (I wasn't last week)14:33
EmilienMok moving on14:33
EmilienM#topic specs14:33
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EmilienM#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open14:33
adarazsEmilienM: cool. I was on PTO last week too, so I don't know what exactly happened apart from what I see on the pad.14:33
EmilienMadarazs: I might have missed it but I haven't seen an email summary14:34
adarazswell, I couldn't really make a summary because I wasn't there :)14:34
EmilienMwho led the meeting?14:34
adarazsapart from pasting the agenda.14:34
EmilienMweshay, trown, sshnaidm, panda ? ^14:35
EmilienMok moving on14:35
EmilienManything to discuss about specs this week?14:36
EmilienM#topic open discussion14:36
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EmilienM* Reminder about PTG: please contribute to the schedule: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-queens14:36
EmilienMwe'll have 2 days 1/2 to work together, again it's a good place to make progress together14:37
EmilienMfeel free to propose new topics14:37
mwhahahascenario upgrade jobs in ocata are timing out, is there anything we can do to improve these as it's blocking backports14:37
EmilienMhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/170295514:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1702955 in tripleo "tripleo upgrade jobs timeout when running in RAX cloud" [Critical,Triaged]14:38
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EmilienMthat's what we found out last week14:38
mwhahahascenario001 seems to be consistently failing14:38
mwhahaharax/ovh doesn't seem to be provider specific14:38
EmilienMso from what I've understand, it sounds like it's timing out when it's not running on OSIC cloud (which is by far the faster cloud that we have)14:38
EmilienMso yeah there is something to do here14:39
EmilienMmwhahaha: we should spend some time in comparing old jobs (when it was far from timeouting) and now and compare the overcloud deploy steps14:39
EmilienMand see what takes more time14:39
EmilienMfiguring out if it's because some services or if because one specific service, etc14:39
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EmilienMI can have a look this week and start some investigation, if someone is willing to help a little also14:40
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EmilienManything else for open discussion?14:41
mwhahahai'll see if i can take a look as well14:41
EmilienMmwhahaha: I would rather poke someone from upgrade team if you don't mind14:41
EmilienMmwhahaha: I think you have better to do :-)14:41
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EmilienMmarios: ^ anyone in your team willing to help?14:42
EmilienManyway, closing the meeting, we can continue offline14:42
EmilienMthanks everyone14:42
EmilienM#endmeeting14:43
mariosEmilienM: sure i can bring it up and see who can help /me too14:43
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tmorin#startmeeting bgpvpn15:29
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 11 15:29:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:29
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:29
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tmorin#topic rollcall15:30
tmorinlet's see who's around today15:30
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pcarverhi15:30
tmorinhi paul15:31
tmorinmaybe doude ? bobmel ?15:31
tmorinI know matrohon is on holidays15:31
doudehi15:32
tmorinhey doude15:34
tmorinok let's start15:34
tmorin#topic agenda15:34
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tmorinhere is what I see for today15:34
tmorina) bgpvpn-routes-control extension work in progress15:35
tmorinb) driver feature support matrix15:35
tmorinc) bug review15:35
tmorinanything else ?15:35
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tmorinah yes: d) new tempest tests15:35
tmorin#topic bgpvpn-routes-control extension work in progress15:36
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tmorinwhile implementing the framework and DB for the bgpvpn-routes-control extension, I found out about issuess in the API definition in neutron-lib15:37
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tmorinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/481088/ is in flight to fix these, mostly landed now15:37
tmorinthe change with the framework/db work for port associations is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481125/15:38
tmorinI think it's fairly complete15:38
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tmorinnot passing tempest tests because we'll need a neutron-lib release with our API extension first15:38
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tmorinreviews are welcome, in particular on the driver hooks (doude, if you want to have a look)15:39
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tmorinthat said, even with this work, given that I'll be off until end of July starting next Friday, I don't plan to try to land the bgpvpn-routes-control extension for Pike15:40
tmorincomments ?15:40
doudetmorin: ok15:40
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tmorinthanks!15:41
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tmorin#topic driver feature support matrix15:42
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tmorinpcarver has pushed a change to add a driver feature matrix to the doc:15:43
tmorinthanks pcarver !15:43
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tmorin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482357/15:43
tmorindiscussion ongoing on the content15:43
tmorinit will definitly be a good addition15:44
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tmorinthis also was the trigger to identifiy that we need updated doc on opencontrail and odl drivers15:44
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tmorinto document that their v1 drivers are obsolete, and provide minimal proper info on how to use the non-obsolete ones15:44
pcarverI'll provide an update. I didn't actually realize that there was a new opencontrail driver15:45
tmorinit's in opencontrail repo15:45
tmorindoude: ok to push a change to update the doc for opencontrail ?15:45
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doudeyes tmorin. But i also think to push a patch to completely remove the old driver15:46
doudeI think is better to remove it now as nobody use it for the moment and only let the active one15:47
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pcarverI agree we should remove the old one but maybe there should be a deprecation notice first, then a removal as a second step15:48
tmorindoude: it depends whether or not you want to provide a driver for contrail < 415:48
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tmorindoude: wouldn't this be a reason to /not/ remove it yet ?15:48
tmorindoude: perhaps instead have it raise a runtime warning that it is obsolete15:48
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doudethe v1 code was more a PoC than a release, it does not use the correct way to se RT on VRF15:49
doudewe can deprecate it if you prefer15:50
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doudewhat will be the deprecation schedule?15:50
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tmorindoude: I think it has to be determined consistently with the deprecation schedule for the last version of opencontrail that does not have what is required by the v2 driver  (3.2 ?)15:52
pcarverI guess we don't know for sure who's using anything, but I suspect you're right that nobody is really using it in production so a short time should be fine.15:52
doudepcarver: ok15:53
pcarverI'm just thinking maybe update with a pointer to the replacement and then a month or two later remove it completely.15:53
doudetmorin: no it's not recommended to use the v1 with contrail release < 4 as there is no migration path to move to the new driver15:53
tmorindoude: then a "short" deprecation schedule would make sene15:54
tmorinsense15:54
doudepcarver: I don't think we can work with month step but with release step15:54
tmorinpcarver: yes15:54
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tmorin"will be removed in Queens" would be reasonable I think15:55
pcarvertmorin: sure, that's fine15:55
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doudeok15:55
tmorinok, next topic ?15:55
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tmorin#topic bug review15:55
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tmorinthe15:55
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tmorinthere were/are a few things needed for the horizon dashboard, to adapt to recent horizon changes15:56
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tmorinsome fixes have merged (cedric's work)15:56
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tmorinand some others are in flights15:56
tmorin#topic new tempest tests15:57
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tmorinsome new tempest tests are beeing refined15:57
tmorinI think they should soon be ready for merging15:57
tmorin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480142/15:58
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tmorin#topic open discuss15:58
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tmorinanything else ?15:58
tmorin2min left :)15:58
tmorindoude ? pcarver ?15:58
doudeok for me15:59
pcarvernothing else for me15:59
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tmorinah yes, one more thing: no meeting next week15:59
tmorintwo weeks for now: I'm not sure (I'll be off, matrohon may be back)15:59
tmorinthree weeks from now: ditto15:59
tmorinthanks folks!16:00
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tmorinleaving the floor for next meeting...16:00
tmorinbye16:00
tmorin#endmeeting16:00
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adrian_otto#startmeeting containers16:00
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adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-07-17_1600_UTC Our Agenda16:00
adrian_otto#topic Roll Call16:00
strigazio/16:00
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adrian_ottoAdrian Otto16:01
tonanhngoTon Ngo16:01
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adrian_ottohello strigazi tonanhngo16:02
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adrian_otto#topic Announcements16:04
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adrian_ottoAny announcements from team members?16:05
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strigaziI don't have any16:05
tonanhngome neither16:06
adrian_ottook16:06
adrian_otto#topic Review Action Items16:06
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adrian_otto#action adrian_otto to target https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/integrate-kuryr-kubernetes for Pike, with a comment that it's okay for this to slip to Queens if needed.16:06
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adrian_otto#topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas16:07
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adrian_otto1) strigazi: Flatten attributes bp is stuck, what to do next. We can copy over the most important parameters in cluster for now. More during the meeting.16:08
adrian_ottostrigazi?16:08
strigaziI was a bit stuck with that and the complecity that was added was large.16:09
strigaziWe started adding fields from CT to Cluster16:09
strigazidocker-volume-size is in16:09
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strigaziAnd labels are in flight16:10
strigaziwait for links16:10
strigazidocker-volume-size https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471766/16:10
strigazilabels https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473346/16:11
strigaziFlavor should follow16:11
strigaziThat's it16:11
adrian_ottook16:12
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adrian_ottook to proceed to open discussion?16:12
strigaziok16:12
adrian_otto#topic Open DIscussion16:12
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strigaziI'm almost done with upgrades. I'll push this week. I'll update the spec accordingly. I'll ping you for review.16:14
adrian_ottosweet, thanks strigazi !!16:14
strigaziFor swarm-mode the patch is almost in and we have gate16:14
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strigazihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/427761/16:14
strigazigate-functional-dsvm-magnum-swarm-mode-ubuntu-xenial-nv SUCCESS16:15
strigaziSome details to fix and we can take it16:15
strigaziFinal work item:16:15
strigaziI did some work with heat container agent and seems to work ok16:15
strigazieasystack is using the same image too.16:16
strigaziI plan to run it as a system container which doesn't require docker16:16
strigaziwip before pushing https://github.com/strigazi/heat-container-agent/tree/system-container16:16
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strigaziThat's it16:17
adrian_ottook, sounds sensible to me.16:17
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adrian_ottoany other topics to touch on before we wrap up?16:17
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strigaziI don't have any more16:18
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tonanhngoI am good16:21
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strigaziadrian_otto yt?16:22
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strigaziI need to leave folks16:25
strigaziSee you16:25
tonanhngoBye Spyros16:25
adrian_otto#endmeeting16:25
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 11 19:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'refstack'19:00
hogepodgeo/19:00
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-07-1119:01
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catherineDPaul may not be able to join today ...19:05
catherineDLet's start ... agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-07-1119:05
rockygo/19:05
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catherineD#topic Displaying RefStack documentation19:06
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mguineyo/19:07
catherineDThis topic is now all completed ... the about page is now rendered in html format19:07
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rockygYay!19:07
sslypushenko_o/19:07
catherineDand the content are from the refstack github rst files ... so all RefStack document are from the same source ...19:08
rockygYay!19:09
mguiney\o/19:09
hogepodgefantastic19:09
catherineDthanks to all who worked to make this happened19:09
catherineDmoving on ...19:09
catherineD#topic Run tool to update the verify field19:10
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catherineDtools are completed ..19:10
catherineDhogepodge: mguiney: any news on data update?19:10
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mguineylast i remember, the goal for this one this week was to spin up a test spreadsheet and test to make sure the script was functioning properly19:11
mguineyadmittedly, this slipped my mind last week, as i was out of town for much of it19:11
mguiney(apologies)19:11
hogepodgemguiney: has that on her task list, but it's been backlogged pending a tempest patch and some internal openstack powered database work19:11
catherineDmguiney: np at all19:12
catherineDhogepodge: once the data is updated... should RefStack show the verified status info on the the results page ?19:13
hogepodgecatherineD: yeah, I think that would be helpful19:13
rockygAgreed.19:13
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catherineDok19:14
catherineDnext topic19:14
catherineD#topic     Review Pike action items ( https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-pike-ptg )19:14
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catherineDwe won't be reviewing this everyweek ... next week we will just discuss the on-going tasks19:15
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luzCo/19:16
catherineD#1     Customized guideline (Status: on going. Schema is under review )19:16
catherineD#link  we need to review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430556/19:17
catherineDwe need this patch to merge before we can do code update in RefStack19:18
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catherineDI guess reviewing the patch is the next  to-do for us19:19
hogepodgeyes, please review that patch. it's important and time is running out quickly19:19
hogepodgeAugust is a few weeks away, and I need to start building extension projects for the board meeting19:19
catherineD#action RefStack team mebers to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430556/19:20
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mguiney(reviewing rn)19:20
catherineD#2 Update existing certified data with the verified flag and #3 Displaying RefStack documentation19:21
catherineDboth are completed19:21
catherineD#4 Automated tempest.conf Create spec and flow chart19:21
catherineDFrom last IRC meeting, seems like the RefStack team still want to do this ...19:22
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catherineDI have contacted Germa and Daniel since they were the originator of this task19:22
catherineDwill give update when I hear from them19:23
rocky_gSorry.  Our guest network went away.  I'm baaaaaaack!19:23
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catherineD#5 subunit result files upload19:23
catherineDThis topic was discussed at the Interop-WG meeting on June 28, 2017 ..19:24
catherineDthere are a few actions item from the Interop-WG..19:24
catherineDmeanwhile mguiney: has submited a spec patch     Create spec for optional subunit data import (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480298/ )19:25
catherineDeveryone please review ...19:25
mguineythis is very much a draft, please let me know if you have any thoughts on what has been laid out htus far19:26
mguiney*thus19:26
catherineDwill do19:26
mguineythank you!19:26
luzCI'll take a look, thanks19:26
rocky_gHve it up in my browser.  Now, to remember to review;-19:27
catherineDrocky_g: luzC: thx19:27
catherineD#topic Open dicussion19:27
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catherineDanything else you want to bring up today?19:27
rocky_gYeah19:28
mguineyrocky_g: ahhh i see you practice the same todo strategy i do19:28
hogepodgeI'll be in Japan and China next two weeks, so my attendance may be spotty. Include me on any reviews you want me to see19:28
catherineDhogepodge: thx for heads-up19:29
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catherineDA heads-up from me is that I will not be a candidate for RefStack PTL on the next election ...19:32
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hogepodgewhat is the timing for PTL elections?19:32
rockygHey.  Sorry.  Really flakey network here.19:33
rockygPTL elections are not quite a month away.19:33
catherineDyea a month away19:33
hogepodgeare luzC or paul available for candidacy?19:34
rockygOr sslypushenko_ ?19:34
sslypushenko_rockyg:  Thx, but not really =)19:35
luzCunfortunately I'm not19:35
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catherineDPaul is not on IRC today ..19:35
hogepodgeI think it's worthwhile to have a transition contingency plan, then.19:36
catherineDhogepodge: yup19:36
hogepodgeWhat I would like, if she's ok with it and the team is ok with it, is to really work hard over the next few months to get mguiney in a place where she can get core status19:36
rockygAgreed19:37
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catherineDhogepodge: ++19:37
luzChogepodge: +119:37
sslypushenko_hogepodge:  +119:37
hogepodgewe can talk with the TC and the infra team about how we can manage the project status, because it's in a unique position19:37
catherineDhogepodge: an other thought is to merge with Interop-WG or under Interop-WG control project?19:38
rockyg++19:38
luzCyes, that will work too19:38
catherineDat some point in the past, that is one of our option before the decision of making RefStack a project of its own19:39
hogepodgecatherineD: that's also a possibility19:39
rockygHmm.  Interesting proposition (my ++ was for hogepodge's comment)19:39
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catherineDrockyg: do you have other thoughts?19:40
rockygWell.  Not on this topic, but something that may affect Refstack in the future...19:40
catherineDrockyg: please share your thoughts19:41
rockygEglute and I attended a "Dovetail" OPNFV meeting a couple of weeks ago.19:41
rockygThey are the queivalent of InteropWG+ for OPNFV19:41
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rockygThey are using OpenStack as a model for their efforts.19:42
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rockygI wanted to, in a future meeting, demo Refstack and how it works and that it can take other test sets as input19:42
rockygIf they did their own testclient, they could use Refstack.......I think19:43
rockygWe could get some new blood in the project and Refstack, still taking priority with OpenStack, could become the cert test server for lots of Open Source19:43
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catherineDrockyg: they can still use RefStack server (the reporting part ...)19:44
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hogepodgerockyg: ++19:44
rockygWe just need them to decide it's worthwhile to contribute.  And, yup, the server can handle their test results :-)19:44
catherineDrockyg: ++19:44
luzCrockyg: ++19:45
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sslypushenko_rockyg:  ++19:45
rockygSo, we should setup a meeting with the right set of folks to talk about Refstack architecture. and do a demo.  Demo could be done in their general meeting (7am PST on Thursdays, I think)19:46
rockygBut, the tech stuff could be arranged separately.19:46
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rockygLemme get back in touch with them and see what we can set up.  If I can get them to join a RefStack IRc, could we do the demo and do a conference call meeting?19:47
catherineDrockyg: sure .. we can also do a demo on their meeting if that would get more attendee19:48
catherineDfrom their side19:48
hogepodgerockyg: I have a zoom account we can use19:48
rockygYup.  I'll get the info out this week.  I'll post to interopwg ML, dev and user-committee when I have OPNFV info.19:48
rockygThanks, hogepodge !19:48
rockygThat's it for me for now.19:49
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catherineDrockyg: great ...thanks...19:50
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catherineDanything else?19:51
catherineDif not, let's end the meeting ...19:52
catherineDthank you all ...19:52
rockygThanks all!19:52
luzCbye19:52
mguineyhave a good day, y'all!19:52
catherineD#endmeeting19:52
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