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toabctl#startmeeting rpm_packaging12:10
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 12:10:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is toabctl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:10
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.12:10
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"12:10
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging'12:10
toabctlping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof12:10
toabctl#chair dirk jpena IgorYozhikov12:10
openstackCurrent chairs: IgorYozhikov dirk jpena toabctl12:10
number80o/12:10
toabctlanybody arround?12:10
jpenao/12:10
toabctlas usual, please add your topics to the agenda12:11
toabctl#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging12:11
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toabctlok. let's start12:19
toabctl#topic singlespec for delorean12:19
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dirkso this is about12:20
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dirk#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492931/12:20
dirkthe suse-ci failure is related to horizon failing to rebuild (but even without the patch, not sure how that happened), so it can be ignored12:21
dirkbut the rdo ci failure is more interesting12:21
dirkthe issue is that we need to have the singlespec macros from openstack-macros available in the installed system so that it can parse the spec files for build12:21
dirkany idea how to achieve that with the rdo/delorean build?12:21
dirkfor the tox-lint environment I did that by creating a tmpdir, and writing a link to $tmpdir/rpmmacros and adding that to the macros path12:22
dirksee here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493845/12:22
dirkjpena: number80 : any ideas?12:22
jpenanumber80: I guess we need an updated build of the openstack-macros package in the dependency repo12:23
number80yeah, I'll do that12:23
dirkthanks12:25
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dirk#action number80 update openstack-macros in build env12:25
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toabctl#topic singlespec for delorean12:25
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toabctlurgs. pardon12:26
toabctl#topic RDO Pike CI12:26
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toabctljpena, yours, I guess?12:26
jpenayep12:26
jpenajust a quick fyi, the Pike repos are now being built, so we the RDO CI can provide valid results12:26
jpenawe got initial results on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491991/12:27
toabctlcool12:27
toabctlanything else on that topic?12:27
toabctl#topic packaging reviews12:28
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toabctlanything to discuss?12:29
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toabctlok. next one12:30
jpenanothing for me12:30
toabctl#topic open floor12:31
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IgorYozhikovo/ sorry, late.12:33
IgorYozhikovany AIs for me?12:33
toabctlhey IgorYozhikov12:33
toabctlIgorYozhikov, no:)12:33
toabctlIgorYozhikov, so in which timezone are you living now?12:33
IgorYozhikovgmt +812:34
IgorYozhikovstill missing things due to time shift12:34
toabctlIgorYozhikov, and is the current meeting time ok for you?12:34
IgorYozhikovyes12:34
IgorYozhikovwill update my calendar12:34
toabctl:)12:34
toabctlok. so if there is nothing left, we can talk in #openstack-rpm-packging. thanks everybody!12:35
toabctl#endmeeting12:35
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Aug 17 12:35:11 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)12:35
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-08-17-12.10.html12:35
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-08-17-12.10.txt12:35
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-08-17-12.10.log.html12:35
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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 15:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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bswartzhello all15:00
cknightHi15:00
gansohello15:00
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zhongjunHi15:00
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xyang1Hi15:00
dustins\o15:00
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raissa_hi15:01
bswartzvponomaryov toabctl markstur gouthamr: courtesy ping15:01
bswartz#topic announcements15:01
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bswartzRC1 happened last week -- 1 day later than we'd aimed for15:02
bswartzThis week is R-2, so if any showstopper bugs are found, we have 2 weeks to fix them before the final release15:02
bswartzso far I'm not aware of any critical bugs15:03
bswartzI'm spending my time on addressing some issues for queens15:03
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bswartzwhich is actually a good segue into my only agenda item15:04
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:04
bswartz#topic PTG15:04
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bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ptg-queens15:04
bswartzI created an etherpad for the PTG15:04
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bswartzand started adding topics15:04
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bswartzjust a reminder that the Manila PTG will be a virtual event, and we agreed to hold it the week following the Denver event15:05
vkmco/15:05
bswartzI expect some new things to come up in denver, and we can add them to our PTG agenda, but most of the stuff we should already know about now15:06
bswartzso please go ahead and starting adding topics of your own15:06
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bswartzI am working on the stuff there with my name on it already15:07
bswartztrying to take advantage of the relative quiet between RC1 and release15:07
bswartzoops I just noticed the got the dates wrong on the etherpad and fixed them15:08
bswartz:-[15:08
bswartznobody has anything on this topic?15:09
* bswartz can tell it's going to be a short meeting15:09
bswartz#topic open discussion15:09
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bswartzany other topics for today?15:09
bswartzI saw tbarron pushing up all kinds of docs patches15:09
tbarronneed to think before we add stuff, for us Queens will be a stabilization release, much work in tripleo15:09
tbarronb/c of 'containerized deployment', TLS everywhere, etc.15:10
bswartztbarron are you looking for reviews on those?15:10
tbarronbswartz: I think they are close to being ready to merge15:10
* bswartz likes the sound of TLS everywhere15:10
tbarronand doesn't-happen-in-devstack bugs15:10
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tbarronlike one dustin just found15:11
bswartzlink?15:11
tbarronbswartz: he's got to file it15:11
bswartzhey, if it works in devstack, then clearly any problems are user errors right?15:11
tbarronon the doc subject, i need to do a bit more cleanup, they should be ready by the end of the week15:11
tbarronif it's a user error to deploy on multiple nodes and fail over :D15:12
* bswartz </sarcasm>15:12
toabctlhi15:12
tbarronbswartz: understood15:12
tbarronbswartz: on the doc issue, do you know if we just get those into master or whether we need them in pike?15:13
bswartzI don't know15:13
bswartzand I'm not sure how we find out15:13
tbarronbswartz: ok, I'll ask on #openstack-doc or something and get back to you15:14
bswartzthe relevant question is whether there are any automated build processes that pull docs content from stable branches and puts it up on docs.o.o15:14
tbarronright15:14
bswartzMy expectation would be that the install guide would do that, but the rest of the guides would not15:14
bswartzbut my expectations are often wrong15:14
tbarronalso, like cinder, we are just importing tables for e.g. backend configuration options from openstack-manuals (before-migration tag)15:15
tbarronand are not regenerating them dynamically15:15
tbarronb/c it is not obvious how to do this15:15
tbarrononly cinder and manila have this issue so far as i can tell15:16
bswartzhopefully the cinder guys have a plan to solve that which we can copy15:16
tbarronbecause we have lots of driver config15:16
* bswartz looks around for jungleboyj15:16
tbarronneutron has drivers out of tree15:16
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tbarronbswartz: they don't yet15:16
tbarronso we're likely to incur tech debt on that front15:16
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bswartzwell I'll be in Denver and I can bug him about it15:17
jungleboyjI am traveling today.15:17
bswartzno worries jungleboyj15:17
tbarroni'll probably ask on openstack-dev , tried in #openstack-doc but no results yet15:17
bswartzthe whole docs situation is just annoyingly subpar15:17
tbarronon the reviews, the aim is just to get material imported and not introduce new problems15:18
bswartzhopefully this is the last time we have to go through a "transition" with our documentation15:18
tbarronso if I add a file (like a README) and something is wrong (or it should be removed) then -115:18
tbarronbut don't -1 because of poor wording in the original file, fix it in a followup patch15:18
bswartzyeah agreed15:18
tbarronwhich can be submitted as soon as you want15:19
bswartzit's more important to get the migration done15:19
bswartzalright anything else for this week?15:19
jungleboyjI think Doug Hellman had some code out there that was a proof-of-concept for how to do a dynamically. I haven't had a chance to take a look at it yet. Hope to do that after Queens opens up more.15:19
bswartzthx jungleboyj, if dhellmann is working on it we'll definitely have a solution soon15:20
tbarronjungleboyj: +1, pleasure working with you, and thanks for your help on this15:20
bswartzI guess one last thing -- if anyone finds a critical bug that needs fixing in an RC2 release, please come hunt me down and let me know15:21
tbarronwe have warnings-as-error = 1 btw and the patches pass with it15:21
vkmcREADMES are just for the repo... right? shouldn't be included on the indexes15:21
bswartzbecause I'll need to create an RC2 target in launchpad and target the bug15:21
vkmcI was hesitant on reviewing it15:21
tbarronvkmc: I'll probably just remove them, they were useful for the original change-layout patch15:22
jungleboyjTrue. Glad to help out Tom. Always a pleasure to work with you as15:22
tbarronbut kinda interrupt the flow of reading for manila content15:22
tbarroni'll leave them in any empty dirs if we have them15:22
bswartztbarron: they won't cause any web content to generate will they?15:23
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bswartzas long as they don't affect the build they're probably harmless15:23
tbarronI get warnings (as errors) if I leave them un-indexed15:23
tbarronthere might be a way around that, I'm no sphinx expert15:23
bswartzcan the content be moved to a place where it doesn't make sphinx unhappy?15:24
bswartzif it's just aimed at developers then some parent directory would probably work15:24
tbarronprobably15:24
tbarroni think they were mostly just placeholders anyway though15:24
bswartzk15:24
bswartzalright I think we're done for today15:25
bswartzsee you next week15:25
bswartz#endmeeting15:25
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lhinds#startmeeting security17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 17:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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lhindsok, lets see whose around?17:00
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lhindshyakuhei / michaelxin / gagehugo / dave-mccowan / fungi ?17:01
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lhindsor anyone else visiting / new?17:01
mdong_o/17:01
lhindsmdong_ cool!17:02
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mdongo/, weird, I disconnected for a second there17:02
lhindsmdong: :)17:03
lhindsthat's why I did not see you first time I guess, you had a underscore mdong_17:03
lhindsok, so with it just being us two, we can like focus on syntribos17:04
lhindsunless others turn up17:04
lhinds#agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda17:04
mdonghaha, sure thing17:04
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lhindsbtw mdong , I got elected as PTL17:04
mdongoh! congrats!17:04
lhindsIt was a tough fight against just myself :)17:04
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mdongI guess I missed the emails about it huh17:05
mdongtough campaigning, I bet17:05
lhindsso I am going to try and get things in swing again as its been struggling for numbers.17:05
lhinds#topic syntribios17:05
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mdongcool, so just to update, still working on performance improvements, for now I’ve abandoned Twisted and gone with multithreading the IO operations in syntribos17:06
lhindsmdong: I can see two reviews, I was reading the docs / error msgs one just now which I can add a +1 for all its worth17:06
mdongawesome! thanks17:07
mdongwhat I really need is +2’s, I need to talk to my team about it17:07
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lhindstotally understand17:07
lhindsare there any other syntribios cores who are still working on it?17:08
lhindsMichael Xin perhaps?17:08
mdongI’m the only developer on it, the other cores have been just helping out with design and such17:08
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lhindsack, what areas need the most help - is there much low hanging fruit development wise?17:09
mdonghmm, development wise I’m not sure what the next feature is after the performance CR’s that I’m currently working on17:11
lhindsjust trying to think where I could get my feet wet17:12
lhindsis there much on the launchpad bugs?17:12
lhindsfound it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/syntribos17:12
mdongyeah, I’m looking through them now, I don’t think any bugs are even from 201717:13
mdongreally the main thing I could use is reviewers17:13
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lhindsI can certainly help there, but its ofc only a +1 and need some more clout than that. is rahul still around on the project?17:15
mdongnah, Rahul and the rest of OSIC are doing their own thing at Intel17:15
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lhindswhoses PTL then?17:16
lhindsmichaelxin ?17:17
mdongfor syntribos? I’m not sure we ever had an official PTL if you meant it in an openstack conference, but michaelxin is in charge17:17
mdong*openstack context17:17
lhindsack, makes sense17:17
lhindsthinking in the context of electing cores (when some are present and up to speed)?17:17
lhindsactually no question marked needed for the above.17:18
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mdongI’m not familiar with the process, I think we just made everyone on the OSIC team cores17:19
mdongbut in terms of getting your feet wet on syntribos, the easiest place to jump in would be writing a test case17:20
lhindsdo you have a good reference case I could take a look at?17:21
mdongsure! this is our SQL test case for example https://github.com/openstack/syntribos/blob/master/syntribos/tests/fuzz/sql.py17:21
mdong*SQL injection17:21
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lhindsmdong: cool, I will take a look17:22
lhindsok, I guess we can close for now.17:22
lhindsOSSNs are trucking along as normal, one released public today and two more on the way17:23
mdongif you have any questions for I’m always available on IRC, and thanks for offering to jump in17:23
lhindsmdong: will do!17:23
lhindsI did play around with it about 10 months back, so will revist17:24
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lhindsrevist/revisit17:24
lhindsok, thanks mdong !17:24
mdongthank you lhinds!17:24
lhindsI will close up for now17:24
lhindssee you next week if you're around17:24
lhinds#endmeeting17:24
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