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| edleafe | #startmeetin nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 21 14:00:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| * edleafe can't spell | 14:00 | |
| edleafe | Who's here? | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:01 |
| cdent | you can spell edleafe it’s just that meetbot doesn’t understand your dialect | 14:01 |
| * edleafe channels Sarah Palin | 14:02 | |
| edleafe | Well, let's get started. We have plenty of room, so feel free to stretch out your legs | 14:04 |
| edleafe | #topic Specs and Reviews | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs and Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:04 | |
| dtantsur | o/ | 14:04 |
| edleafe | #link spec for returning allocation requests to the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471927/ | 14:04 |
| edleafe | Jay posted this this morning | 14:05 |
| edleafe | Looks pretty straightforward with the simplification | 14:05 |
| edleafe | I revived my series to add alternates and allocation candidates to the value returned from the scheduler | 14:06 |
| edleafe | And the WIP series to implement implement | 14:06 |
| edleafe | #link Return alternates and allocations https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486253/ | 14:06 |
| edleafe | #link Add alternate hosts https://review.openstack.org/486215/ | 14:06 |
| edleafe | #link Scheduler returns allocations too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495854/ | 14:06 |
| edleafe | Please take a look at those. They are marked WIP, because I think we need to have some design discussion | 14:06 |
| edleafe | Returning a big glob of data feels icky | 14:07 |
| cdent | do you talk about other ideas in those, or is that for here? | 14:07 |
| edleafe | When you have to describe it as a list of lists of lists, you know it's gonna be fragile | 14:07 |
| edleafe | Those just implement it straightforward | 14:08 |
| edleafe | The first adds alternates, the second adds allocs to the (selcted+alts), and the third changes the signature | 14:08 |
| edleafe | The more I worked with this, the more convinced I am that this is a huge stinking pile of tech debt | 14:09 |
| * cdent alerts the media | 14:09 | |
| * alex_xu waves late | 14:09 | |
| edleafe | Yeah, we wouldn't want to spoil Nova's pristine, tech-debt-free code base | 14:10 |
| * edleafe waves back at alex_didenko | 14:10 | |
| edleafe | ugh | 14:10 |
| * edleafe waves back at alex_xu | 14:10 | |
| alex_xu | heh | 14:10 |
| edleafe | two alex_* in the room? | 14:10 |
| edleafe | I am thinking of writing a post to explain the problems I see, and maybe that could spur further discussions | 14:11 |
| cdent | good | 14:11 |
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| edleafe | #action edleafe to write up his concerns about the scheduler returning huge nested data structures | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #link Add alternate hosts https://review.openstack.org/486215/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #link Scheduler returns allocations too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495854/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #undo | 14:12 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495854/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #undo | 14:12 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://review.openstack.org/486215/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Sorry, copy/paste fail | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Moving on... | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Nested RPs to come out of their coma soon? | 14:13 |
| edleafe | #link Nested RP series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470575/ | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Was hoping to get jaypipes | 14:13 |
| edleafe | geez | 14:13 |
| * edleafe need moar coffee! | 14:13 | |
| cdent | If possible, I’d like to see us pause for refactoring before diving into nested | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Was hoping to get jaypipes's input on nested RPs | 14:13 |
| cdent | if we go straight into that, the db code in the objects/resource_provider.py is going to from inscrutable to painfully inscrutable | 14:14 |
| edleafe | cdent: well, that was one of the main reasons to keep placement in its own code base | 14:14 |
| edleafe | Now we are cramming so much stuff into that one module it's messier than it needs to be | 14:15 |
| cdent | arp | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Well, that should be something we discuss and settle sooner rather than later | 14:16 |
| edleafe | moving on... | 14:16 |
| edleafe | #link Saner RT agg map updates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489633/ | 14:16 |
| edleafe | cdent: that's yours | 14:17 |
| cdent | yeah, that was prompted by me asking “what should I do?” and jay saying “do $that” | 14:17 |
| cdent | so I did | 14:17 |
| cdent | was relatively straightforward | 14:17 |
| edleafe | ok, I have it open for re-review | 14:17 |
| edleafe | #link Replace Chance with FilterScheduler in functional tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491529/ | 14:18 |
| cdent | that’s been +Wd | 14:18 |
| edleafe | That has +W | 14:18 |
| edleafe | Just wanted to be sure everyone saw it | 14:18 |
| edleafe | Anything else for specs/reviews? | 14:18 |
| cdent | just to mention that I’ve started adding last-modified headers, see os-dev for some discussion between jay and me. Still uncertain if it is fully worth it | 14:19 |
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| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495380/ | 14:19 |
| edleafe | is this something that breaks a bunch of unit tests? | 14:20 |
| edleafe | i.e., expecting certain headers? | 14:20 |
| edleafe | oh, I see the failures. Not too bad | 14:21 |
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| cdent | it was sent up with known failures | 14:21 |
| edleafe | So... anything else for specs/reviews? | 14:22 |
| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:23 | |
| edleafe | #link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement | 14:23 |
| edleafe | 2 new ones today | 14:23 |
| cdent | gibi’s colleague is the new gibi | 14:23 |
| edleafe | I think gibi has started cloning himself | 14:23 |
| cdent | he’s going on holiday, so is good | 14:24 |
| gibi | :) | 14:24 |
| edleafe | Any more for bug discussion? | 14:25 |
| edleafe | #topic Open discussion | 14:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:25 | |
| edleafe | Now is the time to share what's on your mind | 14:25 |
| cdent | anybody who hasn’t already done so please put your placement/scheduler related concerns on the ptg etherpad: | 14:26 |
| cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens | 14:26 |
| cdent | who will be there? | 14:26 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:26 |
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| gibi | o/ | 14:27 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:27 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:28 |
| edleafe | PTG starts 3 weeks from today | 14:29 |
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| edleafe | Anything else to discuss? | 14:30 |
| cdent | not from me | 14:31 |
| edleafe | OK, then, everyone back to whatever it was that you were doing! | 14:31 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 21 14:31:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-08-21-14.00.html | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-08-21-14.00.txt | 14:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-08-21-14.00.log.html | 14:31 |
| cdent | thanks edleafe | 14:32 |
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| dave-mccowan | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 21 20:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic roll call | 20:01 |
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| dave-mccowan | o/ | 20:01 |
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| dave-mccowan | #endmeeting | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 21 20:18:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-08-21-20.00.html | 20:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-08-21-20.00.txt | 20:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2017/barbican.2017-08-21-20.00.log.html | 20:18 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | hello PWG. | 21:04 |
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| rockyg | hi | 21:09 |
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| rockyg | I think we didnt have an agenda and it's august | 21:09 |
| pchadwick | Hi rockyg, not sure anyone else is here. | 21:09 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | just 3 of us so far | 21:10 |
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| pchadwick | And I hear there is an eclipse going on. | 21:10 |
| pchadwick | (Can't tell as it was raining when it was supposed to happen here) ;) | 21:10 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | You can hear eclipse? I was only able to see if partially. | 21:10 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | I do not have agenda. | 21:11 |
| pchadwick | So - I guess nothing to see here. | 21:11 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | But I do want to talk about what we should do at Sydney. | 21:11 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | agenda is out. Have we or shoudl we request a room for PWG BOF? | 21:12 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | Pete or Rocky do you have a pointer to our Austin summit sessions and BOF? | 21:13 |
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| rockyg | Uh, ausin or Boston? | 21:24 |
| rockyg | [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115972.html | 21:26 |
| rockyg | [2] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2017-April/001994.html | 21:26 |
| rockyg | [3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-moderator-template | 21:26 |
| rockyg | [4] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-hashtag-definition | 21:26 |
| rockyg | [5] https://github.com/openstack/development-proposals/tree/master/forum/201705-bos | 21:26 |
| rockyg | [6] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 | 21:26 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | Thanks Rocky | 21:38 |
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| jeblair | any zuul folks around? | 22:01 |
| * mordred waves | 22:01 | |
| pabelanger | o/ | 22:01 |
| Shrews | hi | 22:01 |
| clarkb | hello | 22:01 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: ping | 22:01 |
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| jeblair | dmsimard: ping | 22:02 |
| jlk | o/ | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting zuul | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 21 22:02:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-08-14-22.03.html | 22:03 |
| jeblair | the agenda remains: "What needs to happen before PTG" (as i expect it to until the ptg) | 22:03 |
| jeblair | #link pre-ptg etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3-pre-ptg | 22:03 |
| jeblair | so let's go through those which we identified last time | 22:04 |
| jeblair | actually, i'm going to do easy things first | 22:04 |
| jeblair | #topic startup time | 22:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "startup time (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:04 | |
| jeblair | we ran this test, at least as best we can until we have more jobs defined | 22:04 |
| jeblair | we got a baseline for how long it will take zuul to checkout all branches of all projects | 22:05 |
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| jeblair | if we size zuulv3 at least as large as zuulv2, things look good. it should be able to start in less than 2.5 minutes | 22:05 |
| jlk | switching to phone, family dragging me to icecream | 22:05 |
| mordred | that's excellent time for an initial start - especially considering it doesn't need to initial start much | 22:06 |
| jeblair | i think that's quite manageable for a system that large which is, after all, not actually intended to restart very often | 22:06 |
| jeblair | mordred: ya that :) | 22:06 |
| jeblair | (ftr: that's ~1600 repos, with 8 mergers and 8 executors) | 22:06 |
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| Shrews | is a progress indicator emitted during that? | 22:06 |
| clarkb | and that was with pre primed repos right? | 22:06 |
| clarkb | (that may be worthy of deployment documentation if expected to be used) | 22:07 |
| jeblair | Shrews: no | 22:07 |
| jlk | Not bad at all. | 22:07 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yes -- that's a good point. if we want to minimize this for our very first restart, we should prime the git repos on our new hosts | 22:07 |
| jlk | There are logs in the file... | 22:07 |
| mordred | jeblair: was 2.5 minutes with or without pre-primed git repos? | 22:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i don't think i'd mention this in general documentation though. most other zuul v3 instances will be able to grow to this size | 22:08 |
| jeblair | mordred: with pre-primed | 22:08 |
| mordred | ok. cool | 22:08 |
| jeblair | primed in this case means they were already cloned onto the host | 22:08 |
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| mordred | and yah, I don't think it's super useful for normal docs - our migration is a weird special case of starting a new v3 at massive size :) | 22:09 |
| jeblair | clarkb: by which i mean, it's really only the case where a zuul v3 instance springs from nowhere with 1600 repos that it's worth considering | 22:09 |
| jeblair | i'm comfortable scratching this from the pending list; any other concerns? | 22:09 |
| mordred | the results have exceeded my expectations | 22:10 |
| jlk | That's like replacing an existing Zuul site with a new host and new file systems. | 22:10 |
| jlk | So, like a major failure. | 22:10 |
| mordred | yah. and in that case, pre-cloning the repos isn't likely to buy you much in terms of downtime response | 22:10 |
| jeblair | jlk: yeah, and if you're a large site, you'd have to lose all your (ideally many) executors+mergers to achieve this level of failure | 22:10 |
| mordred | in fact, it's likely to make it slower, since you'll have to clone the repos which means scripting that real quick | 22:10 |
| jeblair | mordred: indeed | 22:11 |
| jlk | So a very unlikely scenario. | 22:11 |
| jeblair | #topic fix for "A worker was found in a dead state" bug | 22:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fix for "A worker was found in a dead state" bug (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:11 | |
| jeblair | we didn't actually talk about this last time | 22:11 |
| jeblair | but i put it on the list because it was killing a significant portion of our ansible-playbook runs | 22:12 |
| jeblair | good news: we tracked it down to a python segfault which has been fixed in current versions of python | 22:12 |
| jeblair | mordred created a ppa with the backported bugfix (which we're running now i believe?) | 22:12 |
| jeblair | and SpamapS started the ubuntu SRU process for it | 22:13 |
| mordred | https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ci-core/+archive/ubuntu/python-bpo-27945-backport <- ppa exists with python3.5 package built | 22:13 |
| mordred | so the package there is good to go | 22:13 |
| jeblair | mordred: ah, do we still need to add that to our puppet? | 22:13 |
| SpamapS | I did | 22:14 |
| mordred | no, we have done that already | 22:14 |
| jeblair | cool | 22:14 |
| jlk | Neat. | 22:14 |
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| SpamapS | and sorry I missed the start AGAIN... weird day. :-P | 22:14 |
| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/495399 was merged | 22:14 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: sundial messed up? | 22:14 |
| mordred | jlk, SpamapS: y'all likely want to add that :) | 22:14 |
| SpamapS | exactly | 22:14 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: let us know what happens with the sru process, please :) | 22:15 |
| SpamapS | I would expect that upload to be released into xenial-proposed within a week. | 22:15 |
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| SpamapS | and once it's there, we should report back that the binaries work, and it will spend another few days in proposed before they release it in updates. | 22:15 |
| SpamapS | I suggest subscribing to the bug. | 22:15 |
| jlk | Okay | 22:16 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: have the bug link handy? | 22:16 |
| jeblair | oh i do | 22:16 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.6/+bug/1711724 | 22:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1711724 in python3.5 (Ubuntu Xenial) "Segfaults with dict" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Clint Byrum (clint-fewbar) | 22:16 |
| jeblair | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.6/+bug/1711724 | 22:17 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: thanks! | 22:17 |
| jeblair | #topic tarball/publish jobs | 22:17 |
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| jeblair | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mVSVwG4xos | 22:17 |
| jeblair | pabelanger and mordred have been working on this | 22:18 |
| mordred | pabelanger has some next patches up - I've got some locally I wrote on the plane that follow up to his patches that I'll get pushed up after the meeting | 22:18 |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/494672 | 22:18 |
| pabelanger | yes, python-branch-tarball should be ready fore testing | 22:18 |
| pabelanger | also added upload-twine role | 22:18 |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/495972 | 22:19 |
| jeblair | i think those are those two patches ^ | 22:19 |
| pabelanger | yes | 22:19 |
| pabelanger | https://review.openstack.org/495973/ uses the new twine role | 22:19 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: would you mind keeping the etherpad updated and adding links to those patches in there? | 22:19 |
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| jeblair | i just added those, i mean in the future | 22:19 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: sure | 22:19 |
| jlk | Also ping me if you need more work. I have an empty plate. | 22:20 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: pong (sorry got sidetracked) | 22:20 |
| pabelanger | release-openstack-tarball still needs to be pushed up, but holding off until we get branch-tarball working | 22:20 |
| * dmsimard reads backlog | 22:20 | |
| jeblair | pabelanger: you mean release-openstack-python? | 22:21 |
| pabelanger | Ah, yes | 22:21 |
| pabelanger | actually, I'll push up that review shortly | 22:22 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: thank you. that will let us work on things in parallel | 22:22 |
| pabelanger | agree | 22:22 |
| jeblair | pabelanger, mordred: do you think we can wrap up these jobs in the next 2 days or so? | 22:23 |
| pabelanger | yes, I hope we can finish them for tomorrow | 22:23 |
| mordred | jeblair: yes. I agree with pabelanger on tomorrow | 22:23 |
| jeblair | okay, thanks! | 22:24 |
| mordred | they're very close | 22:24 |
| pabelanger | if we land 494672 today, that would be helpful too | 22:24 |
| jeblair | please continue to ping me as soon as any patches directly related to these efforts are ready for review | 22:25 |
| jeblair | shall we move on to devstack now? | 22:25 |
| pabelanger | yes | 22:26 |
| jeblair | #topic devstack jobs | 22:26 |
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| jeblair | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AIFz4wRKQm | 22:26 |
| jeblair | there's the brainstorming etherpad for this one | 22:26 |
| jeblair | jlk: i suspect that there may be more opportunity for you to jump in here, as compared to the tarball jobs | 22:26 |
| jlk | Okay | 22:26 |
| mordred | jeblair: I did some (mostly useless) noodling in an off moment over the weekend - I do not think we'll wind up being able to use anything I poked at over the weekend directly... | 22:27 |
| jeblair | once mordred and pabelanger finish up with the tarball jobs, i expect their focus will shift to this | 22:28 |
| pabelanger | yes | 22:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: but one thing that jumped out that we're missing from the list is a role or something to get from our new repo structure to somethign devstack can consume | 22:28 |
| jeblair | and clarkb has volunteered to review some of this as well :) | 22:28 |
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| jlk | I'll read up this evening / tomorrow. | 22:28 |
| mordred | because the PROJECTS list and repos on disk is drastically different | 22:28 |
| pabelanger | I think mordred added devstack-gate to zuulv3 last week? | 22:28 |
| mordred | yes. d-g is in v3 currently | 22:29 |
| pabelanger | great | 22:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: good point. i added an item to the etherpad todo list | 22:30 |
| mordred | jeblair: my hunch was that it might be good for you to at least eyeball that and ponder it | 22:30 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i expect 'required-projects' to be a replacement for the $PROJECTS variable | 22:31 |
| mordred | I do too | 22:31 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 22:31 |
| jeblair | clarkb's work to reduce the use of that to minimum will be helpful here | 22:31 |
| jeblair | so yeah, i'll plan on thinking about that next | 22:31 |
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| pabelanger | one question on d-g, for legacy hooks, that is basically just going to be a shell task right? | 22:32 |
| jeblair | in the mean time, i started on the localrc ansible module we discussed. that's a nice out-of-the way thing i could start while other folks were finishing the tarball jobs | 22:32 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 22:32 |
| jeblair | the guts of that are done, i just need to wrap it up in module boilerplate. should have that up tomorrow. | 22:32 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: the etherpad says: make "legacy" playbooks that run hook scripts with vars collected by part one | 22:33 |
| mordred | yah | 22:33 |
| jeblair | (part one is "process env vars") | 22:33 |
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| mordred | and in non-legacy jobs people can just use pre-tasks as needed | 22:33 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: so yeah, i think so -- a playbook with a shell task with the current hook content | 22:34 |
| jeblair | automatically generated by the migration script | 22:34 |
| mordred | this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495930/ does not work - but is the first attempt at dealing with part one "process env vars" btw | 22:34 |
| mordred | it does not work and probalby should be deleted - but that was the inspiration | 22:34 |
| pabelanger | Right, so I guess we'll have to do some magic for bash variables like WORKSPACE too | 22:34 |
| mordred | well - the idea in my brainhole is that we make a thing that produces all of the legacy envvars that things normally run with | 22:35 |
| pabelanger | okay, cool | 22:35 |
| mordred | then when we take a hook script, we run it in a script that first sources those vars, then runs the hook script | 22:35 |
| pabelanger | perfect | 22:35 |
| jeblair | we'll want legacy vars for a bunch of types of jobs, so that's probable a role to generate the file, then source when appropriate? | 22:36 |
| mordred | yah | 22:36 |
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| jlk | A role that wraps a script, script passed as role var at role call? | 22:37 |
| pabelanger | not that I am looking for an answer, but have we given any thought on how long we'd support a legacy hook for? | 22:37 |
| mordred | jlk: yah- something like that | 22:37 |
| mordred | pabelanger: preferrably not a super long time :) | 22:38 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: i think once we get the automagic conversion done, we (openstack) set a release+1 goal for projects to migrate their own jobs (and help projects as we're able) | 22:38 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 22:38 |
| pabelanger | okay, cool | 22:38 |
| jlk | Less time than keystone v2... | 22:38 |
| jeblair | anything else devstack related? | 22:39 |
| mordred | also - fwiw, MOST of the hook scripts are one line scripts | 22:39 |
| mordred | that just call a script in the repo | 22:39 |
| clarkb | which then calls our d-g script | 22:39 |
| pabelanger | mordred: tripleo-ci is the usecase I am thinking off | 22:39 |
| clarkb | so we also have to keep that around | 22:39 |
| pabelanger | of* | 22:39 |
| SpamapS | Just a hook, script, and a jump? | 22:39 |
| mordred | the ones that are more than one line are mostly 2 lines, with the first line being a CD | 22:39 |
| mordred | cd | 22:39 |
| mordred | gah | 22:39 |
| jeblair | CD \ | 22:40 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: nothing more here | 22:40 |
| jeblair | #topic migration script | 22:40 |
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| mordred | so thankfully there's not a ton of actual complex logic in the job definitions themselves - and we can probably take any of the very few actual special cases and nudge them to fit into the pattern of the otherhook scripts | 22:40 |
| jeblair | this is basically pending completion of the publish and devstack jobs | 22:41 |
| jeblair | mostly because we need to know what to migrate too | 22:41 |
| jeblair | i'm hoping we can get those jobs wrapped up very soon and have at least a couple of weeks to work on the migration script and deal with the output | 22:41 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:41 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 22:42 |
| mordred | luckily the migration script is a thign that just reads local yaml files - so it's actually easy to iterate on locally | 22:42 |
| mordred | it may hurt one's brain - but other than that it's just normal hacking | 22:42 |
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| jeblair | #topic migration docs | 22:43 |
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| jeblair | Shrews has started to pick up work on this | 22:43 |
| jlk | YAML2YAML The YAMLing | 22:43 |
| jeblair | updating the infra-manual migration page based on his experiences trying to use zuulv3 with almost no relevant documentation :) | 22:44 |
| Shrews | https://review.openstack.org/495971 | 22:44 |
| jlk | Yay | 22:44 |
| jeblair | Shrews: should i continue to flesh out some of the todo items i left in there? or did you want to take some of them over? | 22:45 |
| Shrews | that link is just for a 0-day, "omg, how do i do something" guide | 22:45 |
| Shrews | jeblair: i'm afraid of assuming where you were heading with some of those todos | 22:46 |
| jeblair | (eg: one of the important things i think we need to communicate is how the variant binding works. there's some tribal knowledge about metajobs and skip-if that we need to tell people how to do with variants) | 22:46 |
| * jlk has to go afk. Will review logs. | 22:46 | |
| jeblair | Shrews: okay, i'll continue to poke at them as able, and maybe try to trick you into doing some if i can articulate it adequately :) | 22:47 |
| Shrews | jeblair: does what i put up cover your "actually work" todos? | 22:47 |
| Shrews | or were you planning to go deeper? | 22:47 |
| SpamapS | There should definitely be a "zuulv3 for the jjb programmer" | 22:48 |
| Shrews | i guess it doesn't really cover inheritence or roles very well | 22:48 |
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| pabelanger | has anybody looked at project-template from python-jobs? | 22:50 |
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| pabelanger | possible that is in mordred migration script, but I haven't looked | 22:51 |
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| jeblair | Shrews: i'm not sure; there's some good stuff in there, but it almost looks like it's more aimed at the user who hasn't used zuulv2 in openstack. i think we'll be able to use a lot of that in the project drivers guide of the infra-manual to replace the current jjb/zuulv2 stuff that's there. | 22:53 |
| jeblair | i'll leave some suggestions as to how we might change things for the migration audience | 22:54 |
| jeblair | anything else? | 22:57 |
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| jeblair | i forgot to start the meeting with our countown clock, so i'll end it with: we have 15 workdays until the scheduled ptg cutover | 22:58 |
| jeblair | thanks everyone! | 22:58 |
| jeblair | #endmeetig | 22:58 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 22:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 21 22:58:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-08-21-22.02.html | 22:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-08-21-22.02.txt | 22:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-08-21-22.02.log.html | 22:58 |
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