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| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 12:00 |
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| dirk | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof | 12:01 |
| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 12:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 7 12:01:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 12:01 |
| dirk | #topic roll call | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:01 | |
| dirk | o/ | 12:01 |
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| dirk | toabctl might be away today | 12:05 |
| dirk | anyone else around? | 12:05 |
| jpena | o/ | 12:05 |
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| toabctl | hey | 12:06 |
| dirk | ah, we have quorum :) | 12:07 |
| dirk | #chair toabctl jpena | 12:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dirk jpena toabctl | 12:07 |
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| dirk | #topic tracking master.tar.gz files for services? | 12:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tracking master.tar.gz files for services? (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:07 | |
| toabctl | that's from me. I wonder what we want todo in master for the services | 12:07 |
| dirk | I think its a mixed bag | 12:08 |
| toabctl | eg there is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469589/ which adds the package for ocata but the reason for that is that other services are also on ocata | 12:08 |
| dirk | in general we might want to track -master, but it breaks at unpredictable times, making other things hard to merge | 12:08 |
| toabctl | tracking master does not mean that we update it automatically. we would still need todo that manually I think | 12:09 |
| dirk | well, thats how it currently works.. every review gets the newest -master tarball I think | 12:09 |
| toabctl | somehow we would need to trigger a job which fetches the new master.tar.gz | 12:09 |
| jpena | tracking master for services is usually ok, as long as we keep libraries on their upper-constraints versions | 12:10 |
| jpena | that's what we do during the cycle in RDO | 12:10 |
| toabctl | yes. same for SUSE | 12:10 |
| toabctl | ok. so agreement on changing the source to master for the services? | 12:10 |
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| toabctl | dirk, jpena ? | 12:13 |
| jpena | +1 | 12:13 |
| dirk | worksforme | 12:13 |
| dirk | #agreed track -master.tar.gz tarballs for services in rpm-packaging master | 12:13 |
| toabctl | thx | 12:13 |
| dirk | #topic pymod2pkg - py2/py3 support | 12:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pymod2pkg - py2/py3 support (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:13 | |
| toabctl | I added it but had no time today to look at it | 12:13 |
| toabctl | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498420/ | 12:14 |
| toabctl | jpena, so you tested this and it works for you, right? | 12:14 |
| jpena | toabctl: yes, I changed the python_module macro in a test env, and made it use pymod2pkg to get the package names | 12:15 |
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| toabctl | ok. I try to have a look today. | 12:15 |
| toabctl | #action toabctl reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498420 | 12:16 |
| dirk | great | 12:16 |
| toabctl | I guess with that we can start to add python3 support to the packages | 12:16 |
| dirk | I'll also try to find time for it | 12:16 |
| dirk | yippe, that would be awesome | 12:16 |
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| dirk | #topic packaging reviews | 12:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "packaging reviews (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:17 | |
| dirk | anything particular? | 12:17 |
| dirk | I just unblocked the suse ci by fixing the python-cinderclient change | 12:17 |
| dirk | and rechecking everything now | 12:17 |
| dirk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469589/ was brought up, but jpena already commented on it | 12:18 |
| toabctl | I'll go over all services and switch them to master. then we can fix that one. | 12:18 |
| dirk | works for me | 12:19 |
| dirk | anything else to discuss? | 12:19 |
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| toabctl | not from my side. | 12:19 |
| toabctl | anything PTG related? | 12:19 |
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| toabctl | just to mention it - there is an etherpad for the PTG | 12:20 |
| toabctl | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rpm-packaging-queens-ptg | 12:20 |
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| toabctl | I'm fine with closing the meeting now, dirk , jpena | 12:22 |
| dirk | thanks | 12:23 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 12:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 7 12:23:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-09-07-12.01.html | 12:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-09-07-12.01.txt | 12:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-09-07-12.01.log.html | 12:23 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 7 15:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 15:00 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj ＼(-_- ) | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| zhongjun | Hi | 15:00 |
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| toabctl | hey | 15:00 |
| bswartz | I don't have any announcements today | 15:01 |
| xyang2 | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | and just 1 agenda item posted | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
| markstur | hi | 15:01 |
| jprovazn | hi | 15:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic Specs and deadlines | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs and deadlines (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| bswartz | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so the Queens schedule looks fairly normal | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | The oddity this cycle is that the christmas and new year holidays fall during milestone 3 | 15:03 |
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| jungleboyj | Was nice when the holidays were right after the release. | 15:04 |
| bswartz | that means many of us will return from our vacations with just a few weeks left until feature freeze | 15:04 |
| bswartz | that of course argues for getting stuff done earlier, but we've been pushing for that for the last few releases and its been going pretty well | 15:05 |
| bswartz | given all of that, I propose we use the same deadlines for queens that we used for pike | 15:05 |
| bswartz | milestone 1 is spec freeze | 15:05 |
| bswartz | milestone 2 is new the driver submission deadline | 15:06 |
| bswartz | and the feature proposal freeze is 2 weeks before milestone 3 | 15:06 |
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| xyang2 | bswartz: are you going to publish the schedule on the queens schedule web site again? I think that was helpful last time | 15:07 |
| bswartz | although during queens I put the deadlines on Mondays instead of Thursday which worked pretty well | 15:07 |
| bswartz | xyang2: well I wanted to discuss them here before posting anything | 15:07 |
| bswartz | do these deadlines give anyone heartburn? | 15:08 |
| xyang2 | sure | 15:08 |
| bswartz | it's worth noting that PTG is later in this cycle than it was in pike | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:08 |
| markstur | is gouthamr raising his hand for heartburn? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | Denver is just 5 weeks before milestone 1, and our PTG will be only 4 weeks before | 15:09 |
| bswartz | that means we'll have just 4 weeks between PTG and spec freeze | 15:09 |
| bswartz | IMO that should be enough, as long as we can get reviews to happen in a timely fashion in late september/early october | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | markstur: I think yes | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | markstur: stealthily walking in, raising hand, and then reading scrollback | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | bad move | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | no heartburn | 15:10 |
| * bswartz goes to check how many specs are proposed already | 15:11 | |
| bswartz | just 2 that have been recently updated | 15:12 |
| zhongjun | There are some features left in pike branch | 15:13 |
| bswartz | merged specs that weren't implemented? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | those should be renamed into the queens directory in new gerrit changes | 15:13 |
| zhongjun | Yes, and some specs didn't merged in pike | 15:14 |
| bswartz | oh well the unmerged ones should be updated to queens and re-reviewd | 15:14 |
| bswartz | please make sure any ideas you want to discuss for queens are on the PTG etherpad | 15:15 |
| bswartz | and having specs before the PTG event helps us having a starting point for the discussion | 15:15 |
| bswartz | although it's fine to write the spec afterwards too | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | just keep the deadline in mind -- we were fairly strict on limiting the number of specs during pike | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | the number of specs we try to tackle in queens will relate to how many reviewers we have | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | and happily we're seeing some new faces from RedHat so I'm optimistic | 15:17 |
| bswartz | okay so that's all I had on this agenda item | 15:17 |
| bswartz | if there are no objections I will post the deadlines to the official schedule after the meeting | 15:18 |
| zhongjun | Thanks | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | I was planning on holding the meeting as usual next week, even though I'll be traveling | 15:19 |
| bswartz | because in 2 weeks we'll be in our PTG and that will overlap with this meeting | 15:19 |
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| * bswartz hears crickets | 15:20 | |
| bswartz | okay I think we're don early today then | 15:20 |
| * gouthamr and you ping that guy again | 15:20 | |
| bswartz | done | 15:20 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 15:21 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:21 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 7 15:21:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-09-07-15.00.html | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | \o | 15:21 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: ping who? | 15:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-09-07-15.00.txt | 15:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-09-07-15.00.log.html | 15:21 |
| amito-infinidat | \o | 15:21 |
| markstur | o/ | 15:21 |
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| gouthamr | bswartz: "don early" :) | 15:21 |
| bswartz | that's not a real person... | 15:21 |
| markstur | there is an ear*y nick listed | 15:23 |
| markstur | don't know if that is Don | 15:23 |
| bswartz | oh | 15:23 |
| markstur | bswartz can't expect you to avoid that word | 15:23 |
| bswartz | yeah sorry to the person with that nick | 15:24 |
| zhongjun | bswartz: hi | 15:24 |
| bswartz | we have to assume anyone whose nick is an english word just turns off notifications when their name is mentioned | 15:24 |
| zhongjun | bswartz: why I can't ping you in private channel | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | zhongjun: I'm replying to you in manila channel -- we shouldn't use the meeting channel after our meeting is done | 15:27 |
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| lhinds | k.. | 17:00 |
| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 7 17:01:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:01 |
| lhinds | #topic roll call | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:01 | |
| lhinds | hyakuhei, gagehugo , mdong and others? | 17:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 17:01 |
| lhinds | dave-mccowan | 17:01 |
| lhinds | hey gagehugo | 17:01 |
| gagehugo | hey! | 17:01 |
| lhinds | michaelxin ? | 17:01 |
| raildo | o/ | 17:02 |
| lhinds | raildo ! | 17:02 |
| lhinds | welcome | 17:02 |
| raildo | hey lhinds :) | 17:02 |
| lhinds | cool, will focus on the agenda parts pertinant to the audience | 17:02 |
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| lhinds | pertinent rather | 17:03 |
| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:03 |
| lhinds | #topic agenda | 17:03 |
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| lhinds | So lets focus on bandit, custodia / PTG | 17:04 |
| lhinds | and docs if we have time. | 17:04 |
| lhinds | also is there any new / hanging out wants to say hi? (I invited a few during the week too) | 17:05 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 17:05 |
| lhinds | any/anyone | 17:05 |
| lhinds | hi dave-mccowan ! | 17:05 |
| rajathagasthya | Hi! New here and will be working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bandit/+bug/1708582. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708582 in Bandit "Insecure hash functions created by hashlib.new() should be flagged" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rajath Agasthya (rajagast) | 17:05 |
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| lhinds | hi rajathagasthya , great to have you! | 17:05 |
| lhinds | thanks for taking on that bug | 17:05 |
| lhinds | #topic bandit | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bandit (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:06 | |
| rajathagasthya | Thanks lhinds! | 17:06 |
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| lhinds | so really we have the nosecs in keystone (for sha1 false postives / HMAC) and the sha1 change itself. | 17:06 |
| lhinds | I have triaged a lot of the issues as there was some old stuff from 2016 that I moved to wish list | 17:07 |
| gagehugo | yeah I saw | 17:07 |
| lhinds | Otherwise, I still plan to do the audit and find out who is missing and try and approach them during the PTG | 17:07 |
| gagehugo | sounds good | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | and rajathagasthya as mentioed is working on hashlib.new() not being picked up (thanks) | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | i think that's it for now. unless you guys have a quick work to two on Bandit? | 17:08 |
| lhinds | work/word | 17:09 |
| rajathagasthya | lhinds: Any simple enough bugs I can take on? You mentioned you traiged some stuff. | 17:09 |
| lhinds | rajathagasthya: , good point - I don't have them to hand, but let me add them to the etherpad for next meeting. | 17:09 |
| rajathagasthya | Sounds good. | 17:09 |
| lhinds | the queue is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bandit | 17:09 |
| lhinds | ok, custodia / PTG | 17:10 |
| lhinds | #topic custodia / PTG | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "custodia / PTG (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:10 | |
| raildo | rajathagasthya, lhinds I suggest add the flag "low-hanging-fruit" on that bugs, so it will be easier for the new contributors find it | 17:11 |
| rajathagasthya | Will do, thanks. | 17:11 |
| lhinds | raildo: good point, I can set up a tag | 17:11 |
| lhinds | #topic custodia | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "custodia (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:11 | |
| lhinds | so raildo , looks like you have some times now buddy? | 17:11 |
| lhinds | @ the PTG that is | 17:12 |
| raildo | yeap, more that I thought hahaha | 17:12 |
| raildo | so, we'll have our first moment with the olso team on Monday at 10:00-10:40 am | 17:12 |
| raildo | (that time slot was changed) | 17:13 |
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| raildo | after that at 2:00-4:00 with the tripleo/deployment team, we have on topic on that time slot to discuss more about the k8s relation | 17:14 |
| raildo | and how to integrate that idea if some other efforts, like to use the k8s concept to ConfigMap to manage configurations | 17:14 |
| raildo | and finally, we will have an Custodia demo/walktrought with the Barbican/sec team later in the week | 17:15 |
| raildo | TBD | 17:15 |
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| lhinds | cool, dave-mccowan - how would you like to do the custodia slot, on the fly or set a time? | 17:16 |
| gagehugo | yeah I need to make a schedule of events | 17:16 |
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| gagehugo | I'll def try to make the custodia meeting | 17:16 |
| raildo | but if anyone guys want to talk with me about in any other time, just ping me or send an emails, I'm glad to talk about it :) | 17:16 |
| dave-mccowan | on the fly works for me. or if we need to block something to help attendance, that good too. just add note the wiki. | 17:17 |
| raildo | gagehugo, please do :) would be great having your feedback on that topic | 17:17 |
| dave-mccowan | here's the wiki: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-ptg-queens | 17:17 |
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| dave-mccowan | we can also use the new ptg schedule page: | 17:17 |
| dave-mccowan | http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html | 17:18 |
| lhinds | what I would like to do, is have 20 minutes or so to discuss having custodia incubation in the security project. | 17:18 |
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| lhinds | raildo: this would be a bit like bandit above, just means extra eyes on helping with reviews, taking on bugs, blogs, security guide content etc. | 17:19 |
| lhinds | does not mean we would be the drivers of the project, it would still look like any other project. | 17:19 |
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| lhinds | does not need to be permenant as well.. | 17:19 |
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| lhinds | we can discuss that at the PTG though to dig into the details. | 17:20 |
| raildo | lhinds, hum, that's might be a trick point, but will be great to discuss about it | 17:20 |
| gagehugo | yeah that might be something good to discuss with people in the room | 17:20 |
| dave-mccowan | i'm happy to offer the key management project as incubator as well, if our core team would be helpful. | 17:21 |
| lhinds | raildo: yes mate, its mainly about if its of value to custodia.. | 17:21 |
| lhinds | raildo: if not, then that's how it should be. | 17:21 |
| lhinds | good point dave-mccowan | 17:21 |
| lhinds | we can chew it over at the PTG, as I guess the oslo driver project aspect will have some play in the project as well. | 17:22 |
| gagehugo | yeah | 17:22 |
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| lhinds | really though , its about whatever helps the project get the traction it needs. | 17:23 |
| dave-mccowan | yea, if oslo will adopt it, that's the better place. | 17:23 |
| lhinds | +1 | 17:23 |
| lhinds | we can then be like a nice auntie :) | 17:23 |
| raildo | lhinds, dave-mccowan actually I have to take a look more on the "incubation" mean for that case. since Custodia fit better as a general key management not only for OpenStack, and I don't want to have that idea to Custodia been a Castellan concurrent since it's not even the same use cases | 17:24 |
| raildo | lhinds, so, I think that is a good point, and we are always opened to help, I really appreciate that :) | 17:24 |
| lhinds | raildo: ack, no worries | 17:25 |
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| lhinds | so we have five mins left..lets go over a few quick bits. | 17:25 |
| lhinds | there is an OSSN in fly, if anyone is interested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499176/ | 17:26 |
| lhinds | a blog entry just gone up: http://openstack-security.github.io/security-notes/2017/09/01/openstack-security-notes.html | 17:26 |
| lhinds | last point, should we hold this meeting still next week (with it being PTG)? | 17:27 |
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| lhinds | dave-mccowan: what do you do for barbican meetings during PTG? | 17:28 |
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| dave-mccowan | we usually cancel the IRC meeting | 17:29 |
| gagehugo | yeah usually everyone cancels the irc meetings | 17:29 |
| lhinds | I think we will do the same then. | 17:29 |
| lhinds | so next meeting will be on the 21st, I will send an email out to -dev | 17:30 |
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| lhinds | ok, thanks all! | 17:30 |
| lhinds | see some of you next week! | 17:30 |
| lhinds | #endmeeting | 17:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 7 17:30:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-09-07-17.01.html | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-09-07-17.01.txt | 17:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-09-07-17.01.log.html | 17:31 |
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