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| kevin_cao | Hello, guys. Where can I get the latest cinder.spec for packaging the source code to rpm package. The version of cinder is 10.0.6. | 08:13 |
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| aspiers | hello, anyone around to talk HA today? I'm guessing people are probably tired after the PTG :) | 09:03 |
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| aspiers | kevin_cao: https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging/ would be the right place but it seems to be missing | 09:04 |
| aspiers | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rpm-packaging | 09:05 |
| aspiers | kevin_cao: also, this is the wrong channel to ask questions like that. try #openstack-dev | 09:05 |
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| zhurong | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 20 14:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhurong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:01 |
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| devkulkarni | hi zhurong | 14:02 |
| zhurong | hi devkulkarni | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni | nice to see you | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni | how was PTG? | 14:02 |
| zhurong | PTG is awesome | 14:03 |
| zhurong | you should come next time | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni | nice! glad that you had good time at PTG | 14:04 |
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| devkulkarni | did you have any solum related discussions with any one? | 14:04 |
| zhurong | np, we didn't apply the room | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | ah right | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni | how were cross-project sessions? | 14:05 |
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| zhurong | there are not too many cross-project sessions, just the TC goal policy-in-code | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni | I see. did you attend that session? we don't have any keystone policy stuff.. we need to reply to that one comment on the goals patch | 14:07 |
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| zhurong | others are deployment cross-project | 14:07 |
| zhurong | yep, we don't have | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni | I see.. how was the policy-in-code session? | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni | Is there a etherpad for that? | 14:08 |
| zhurong | yeah, give me few secends | 14:09 |
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| zhurong | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads | 14:09 |
| zhurong | this is all the etherpad | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | this is good list | 14:10 |
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| devkulkarni | in the session about meeting with tc, there was discussion about solum right? what all points were discussed? Is there a etherpad with discussion of that session? | 14:12 |
| devkulkarni | I believe it is this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-TC-SWG | 14:13 |
| zhurong | yep | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni | so the concerns listed there is that solum being "user-facing so would need a lot more features/polish/activity to not make us look bad" | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni | I believe you mentioned in the meeting about all the features that we have implemented in last cycle, also completion of the goals | 14:15 |
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| devkulkarni | what did tc say about that? | 14:16 |
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| zhurong | They need more discuss about this | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni | I see. did they say when/how the discussion will happen? | 14:17 |
| zhurong | np, we just wait the patch | 14:18 |
| devkulkarni | you mean the patch that will change status of solum? | 14:19 |
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| zhurong | yep, hope they don't do this | 14:20 |
| devkulkarni | whether or not tc changes our status, we should discuss and decide what is our preferred option | 14:21 |
| devkulkarni | what do you think we should do? | 14:21 |
| devkulkarni | we can list pros/cons of the two options | 14:22 |
| zhurong | we can not get more active contributors | 14:23 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Remaining official (advantages): a) space at PTG b) Official openstack branding | 14:24 |
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| devkulkarni | c) ability to attract contributors (although this has been hard for us as we need to spend more time doing PR of solum) | 14:24 |
| devkulkarni | Remaining official (cons): a) need to implement openstack-wide goals; b) need to be on top of gate issues; | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni | Going unofficial (advantages): a) Not so much pressure to keep implementing openstack-wide goals; b) Not under pressure to keep up with gate issues | 14:27 |
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| devkulkarni | Going unofficial (disadvantages): a) No space at PTG - this will more affect any change of attracting new/additional contributors; | 14:28 |
| zhurong | we want to stay in big tent, but ... | 14:29 |
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| devkulkarni | Constraints: Currently its primarily only two of us involved -- you are also PTL of Murano. I don't have as much time as I used to before | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni | please continue/complete your thought | 14:30 |
| zhurong | If TC decided to remove us from official, we have no way to stop this | 14:32 |
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| devkulkarni | yes, that is the fact. | 14:33 |
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| devkulkarni | I am wondering if from our side do we want to take that decision rather than waiting for tc to make some decision for us? we can look at above pros/cons to help us take some decision (either we decide to stay or we decide to become unofficial) | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni | given your Murano PTL duties, how much time do you have for Solum related work? | 14:36 |
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| devkulkarni | btw, I was looking at the sample policy patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502506/1 | 14:38 |
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| zhurong | openstack-wide goals and make gate always green, this is the basic, and this I can satisfy | 14:39 |
| devkulkarni | ok that is good to know | 14:39 |
| devkulkarni | because those are the two main things that I am most concerned about | 14:40 |
| devkulkarni | if we want to remain in big tent | 14:40 |
| zhurong | now TC wants more | 14:40 |
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| zhurong | we had done all of this is the last cycles | 14:41 |
| zhurong | s/is/in/g | 14:41 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, you have been on top of the goals and the gate for last couple of cycles | 14:41 |
| zhurong | they wants more contributors more features | 14:42 |
| devkulkarni | I wish tc would have explicitly defined a criteria based on number of new features or number of new contributors | 14:42 |
| devkulkarni | hmm | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni | as long as we are not falling short on completing tc goals and the gate is green, we are good imo | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni | and you are saying that you have bandwidth for that? | 14:44 |
| zhurong | yep | 14:44 |
| devkulkarni | awesome!! | 14:45 |
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| devkulkarni | in that case we can let the tc take the decision. if they decide to make us unofficial on the basis of features and contributors, we can raise the point about where is that defined as an official criteria. I have not come across that to be honest | 14:46 |
| zhurong | hope this will never happen | 14:47 |
| devkulkarni | and we can remain focused on completing the goals and ensuring that the gate remains green | 14:48 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, lets hope that will not happen | 14:48 |
| devkulkarni | moving on then -- lets quickly discuss about the failing gate -- | 14:49 |
| devkulkarni | any ideas why it is failing? | 14:49 |
| zhurong | I think hongbin's patch will make it green | 14:50 |
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| zhurong | just merged | 14:50 |
| devkulkarni | oh! | 14:51 |
| devkulkarni | if that makes it green, that will be awesome | 14:51 |
| devkulkarni | I also approved your patches about rootwrap | 14:51 |
| devkulkarni | alright, another point was about the policy-in-code goal | 14:52 |
| zhurong | we don't have policy | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni | I think we *might* have to define a default policy file which lists all the resources, methods, and default role that we currently support | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni | I know we don't have policy -- but we do require the user to have certain role, right? | 14:53 |
| devkulkarni | we can check with the policy-goal committee if we are required to define this default policy as part of goal completion | 14:54 |
| zhurong | yep, this is right, if add this, maybe will cause some errors | 14:54 |
| devkulkarni | right | 14:54 |
| devkulkarni | may be we can try adding it and see if we run into any issues. | 14:55 |
| devkulkarni | see this is the sample patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502506/1 | 14:55 |
| devkulkarni | we *might* have to add something of this sort https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502506/1/sandbox/policies/chairs.py | 14:56 |
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| devkulkarni | for our resources - app, workflow, etc. | 14:56 |
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| zhurong | agree | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni | we can make a comment to that effect in the patch about completion of our policy goal | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni | do you have that handy? | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni | btw, we are almost at the end of the meeting | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni | feel free to end the meeting and we can continue for few minutes in solum channel | 14:59 |
| zhurong | ok | 14:59 |
| zhurong | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 20 14:59:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-09-20-14.01.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-09-20-14.01.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-09-20-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
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| kumarmn | #startmeeting trove | 15:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 20 15:06:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kumarmn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:06 |
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| kumarmn | pinging @smatzek, @amrith, @slicknick, @lukebrowning, @songjian, @johnma, @trevormc | 15:07 |
| kumarmn | #topic Introducing PTL candidate | 15:08 |
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| kumarmn | Folks I was nominated last week as the new PTL for Trove. Wanted to introduce myself. My name is Manoj Kumar. I work at the Power/Cognitive systems group at IBM. | 15:08 |
| kumarmn | #topic Introducing new cores | 15:09 |
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| smatzek | Hi, I'm Sam Matzek and was added as a Trove core last week during the PTG. | 15:14 |
| kumarmn | Luke Browning was also added as a Trove core last week. | 15:15 |
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| kumarmn | #topic Transition | 15:16 |
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| kumarmn | @amrith: How do reviews like this stop going to you: https://review.openstack.org/484594 | 15:18 |
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| kumarmn | #topic Improving the gate | 15:31 |
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| kumarmn | Looking for dedicated servers to run the gate tests for Trove. | 15:52 |
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| kumarmn | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 20 15:57:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-09-20-15.06.html | 15:57 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Hey Folks, this is ML2 meeting time | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev_ | Anybody here for ML2 meeting? | 16:02 |
| rkukura | hi Sukhdev, Sukhdev_ | 16:02 |
| rkukura | I’m available if we are meeting | 16:02 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev_ | yamamoto : are you recovered from travels :-) | 16:03 |
| yamamoto | i'm fine | 16:03 |
| yamamoto | how about you | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev_ | yamamoto : same here | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev_ | Looks like we do not have much participants today - | 16:05 |
| rkukura | I was in San Jose instead of Denver, but I’m recovered ;) | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev_ | yamamoto : Do you have any item to discuss? | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev_ | ah nice | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev_ | I rather be in San Jose than Denver as well :-) | 16:06 |
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| yamamoto | no | 16:06 |
| yamamoto | rkukura: you missed trains | 16:07 |
| rkukura | trains? | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev_ | Lets meet next week then - I will cover opencontrail as well Gluon updates | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : ha ha that is inside joke at PTG :-) | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | ok - looking foeward to hearing more about the PTG | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : trains was the buzz word at PTG :-) | 16:08 |
| rkukura | figured there might be some “buzz” involved | 16:09 |
| yamamoto | rkukura: see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-PTG-feedback if you're interested :-) | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : see line 133 onwards | 16:10 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: thanks | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev_ | So, lets cancel today and meet next week | 16:13 |
| rkukura | +1 | 16:13 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 16:13 |
| rkukura | have a great week Sukhdev_ & yamamoto! | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev_ | thanks | 16:14 |
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