Tuesday, 2017-10-31

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masahitohi blazar folks, time to meeting :-)09:00
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 31 09:01:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:01
masahito#topic RollCall09:01
*** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:01
hiro-kobayashio/09:01
hritoo/09:01
masahitoToday's agenda is09:02
tejaswio/09:02
priteauo/09:02
masahito1. onboarding session09:02
masahito2. next weekly meeting09:02
masahito3. specs in review09:02
masahito4. AOB09:02
masahitoanything else?09:02
masahitohiro-kobayashi hrito tejaswi priteau: hi all o/09:02
masahito#chair hiro-kobayashi priteau09:02
openstackCurrent chairs: hiro-kobayashi masahito priteau09:02
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masahito#topic onboarding session09:03
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masahitoAs I mentioned, Blazar team has onboarding session at the Sydeny Summit.09:04
masahitoI created the slide deck for the session.09:04
masahitohttps://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vOYlFuIK4NX7C73xT-JQkkRdsPzjG1BMq_bXCMKvEe4/edit?usp=sharing09:04
masahitoThe purpose of the session is dive into the blazar details as well as introduce project overview.09:05
hiro-kobayashiGreat! thanks you very much09:05
masahitoSo I plan to introduce blazar overview first, then we'll have QA time later.09:06
masahitopriteau: is it okay to mention Chameleon project in the slide as a real deployer of Blazar?09:08
priteauOf course!09:08
masahitopriteau: thanks!09:08
masahitoIf you find something that should be improved, feel free to update the presentation!09:08
masahitoany comments for the onboarding?09:09
priteauShould we link to official docs rather than the wiki?09:11
masahitoright.09:11
masahitoThe official docs is better.09:11
hiro-kobayashi+109:11
masahitoI noticed blazar isn't listed in https://docs.openstack.org/queens/projects.html yet.09:12
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masahitoBut it'll be listed once hiro-kobayashi's patch.09:13
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priteauI made a few little changes to the slides09:13
priteauThey look great!09:13
masahitopriteau: thanks. I really appreciate you.09:15
masahitookay then, let's move on to next.09:15
masahito#topic next meeting and meeting at the Summit09:15
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masahitoI plan to skip next weekly meeting because of the Sydney Summit.09:16
masahitoIs it okay? Or if someone want to have the meeting, could someone do a chair?09:17
hiro-kobayashiokay for me and I cannot attend.09:17
priteauok for me09:17
masahitookay, let's skip next meeting. I'll send it to ML.09:18
masahitoAnd I'd like to ask all that should we have Blazar team meeting in the Summit?09:19
masahitoIMHO, I don't have strong opinion we should have the meeting b/c we had a virtual meetup at the last PTG.09:20
hiro-kobayashime, neither.09:21
priteauI don't think we need a meeting since we have agreed on the list of blueprints to work on09:22
masahitookay.09:23
masahitoI hope new comers of blazar will join the onboarding session.09:23
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masahito#topic Specs in review board09:24
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masahitoI can see three specs in gerrit now.09:25
masahito1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508093/09:25
masahito2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506551/09:25
masahito3. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516222/09:25
masahito#1 and #2 looks we need to do much activities to complete the specs.09:26
masahitoSo to make things forward, I'd like to merge #1 and #2. Then it's good to start the implementation.09:27
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masahitoHow do you think?09:28
priteauI'll try to review the latest version of the specs today09:28
priteauYou already have a +2 so if it looks good to me I will merge09:28
hiro-kobayashithanks, priteau!09:28
masahitopriteau: thanks!09:28
masahitonothing more to Specs. Let't move on to last item.09:30
masahito#topic AOB09:32
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masahitoDoes someone have topics to share/discuss/etc?09:32
hrito_I have one09:33
hrito_I've assigned another task and I don't have much time to implement the BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/deploy-api-in-wsgi09:33
hrito_So I would appreciate it if someone could take over this BP.09:34
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masahitohrito_: That's a bad news ;-0  Is it hard to join the activities in the future?09:35
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hrito_Maybe I will have time to fix some bugs but it's hard to implement BP :-<09:37
hiro-kobayashihrito_: How about the task to get backward compatibility for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498340/ ? Can you complete it?09:37
hrito_hiro-kobayashi: At least, I'll try to complete it09:38
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masahitohrito_: If you have not much time to implement the blazarclient one, please let me know.09:40
hrito_masahito: ok, thanks09:41
masahitoIt's a critical bug for client and dashboard. We need to fix it at least before Q release.09:41
hrito_masahito: right09:42
masahitohrito_: okay, I hope you can work well in another task.09:42
hrito_thanks!09:42
hrito_that's all from me09:43
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hiro-kobayashiI have 1 topic about the state-machine spec09:44
hiro-kobayashiI proposed a base implementation for the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512198/09:45
hiro-kobayashiIn this implementation, I proposed a new module 'statuses' and removed the module 'states'09:46
hiro-kobayashithe states module uses status, status_reason, action of leases table09:47
hiro-kobayashiOn the other hand, the statuses module uses only the 'status'09:47
hiro-kobayashipriteau: Is it acceptable for ChameleonCloud?09:47
priteauSure. It's simpler that way and more in line with other OpenStack services09:48
hiro-kobayashipritau: good to hear that :-)09:48
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hiro-kobayashiThen I will continue implementation after the spec is merged.09:49
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hiro-kobayashiThat's all from me09:49
masahitostatuses.py looks bit strange for me. Is there any reason the name isn't status.py?09:50
hiro-kobayashiNot a strong reason, but just follows other module names like exceptions, opts, and so on.09:51
priteauIt's the plural of status09:51
hiro-kobayashiThe statuses module contains multiple *Status classes, so I named it statuses.py.09:52
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hiro-kobayashiBut I don't have a strong preference for it.09:52
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hiro-kobayashiHow do you all think which is better, statuses.py or status.py?09:53
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: I see. I usually see the the plural naming only at directory name. So I asked it.09:54
priteauAn alternative would be to keep using states, but that means changing the model to use state field09:54
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hiro-kobayashipriteau: Are you proposing to add a new 'state' field?09:56
hiro-kobayashifor leases table?09:56
masahitopriteau: yes, but it could confuse new contributors because of the naming difference.09:56
priteauTo rename status to state, but that09:56
priteauthat's a lot of change09:56
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hiro-kobayashipriteau: yes. And I think if we rename it, the status field of reservations and events tables should be also renamed.09:57
priteauIt is probably too much change.09:57
hiro-kobayashiCan ChameleonCloud accept accept such a big change?09:57
priteauChameleon follows what the upstream community decides :-)09:58
priteauThe question is, is it worth changing the model and lots of code, just to rename status to state09:59
hiro-kobayashiOK. We should keep backward compatibility, anyway.09:59
priteauProbably not worth it09:59
hiro-kobayashipriteau: agree.09:59
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hiro-kobayashimasahito: If you prefer 'status.py' and no one has an objection, I'll rename it 'status.py'10:00
masahitotime is up. keep discussion on the gerrit or IRC.10:00
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hiro-kobayashiOK10:01
masahitohiro-kobayashi: I don't review the patch well. So you can update it after I review it.10:01
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hiro-kobayashimasahito: ok. thanks10:01
masahitohiro-kobayashi: it can reduce extra-works.10:01
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masahitobye, all10:01
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masahitoSee you in Sydney or next meeting in two week!10:02
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masahito#endmeeting10:02
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hiro-kobayashiThanks all! good bye!10:02
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zhurong#startmeeting murano13:02
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zhurong#topic RoleCall13:02
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zhurongwait co13:02
zhurong]\13:02
zhurong=]13:02
zhurong\13:02
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zhuronghi felipemonteiro13:03
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felipemonteiroo/13:05
learnmore_o/13:05
zhuronghave you finished the ppt?13:06
felipemonteiromostly, hope to finish today13:06
zhuronghi learnmore_13:07
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learnmore_What are you going to talk about at the summit?13:09
zhurongCould you share the ppt after you finished?13:10
felipemonteiroyea, absolutely13:10
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zhurongyep, felipemonteiro is preparing ppt for the summit13:11
felipemonteiroproject overview, contributor statistics, user survye statistics, pike accomplishments, possible queens enhancements as we discussed at the ptg, how to get more involved with code review and the project, etc.13:11
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learnmore_sounds good.13:12
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zhurongI can not attend the summit due to my family reasons13:12
learnmore_That's unfortunate.  Sorry to hear this.13:13
felipemonteiroi'm sorry to hear that zhurong, i hope everything works out13:13
zhurongthanks learnmore_ felipemonteiro13:13
learnmore_On another topic,  there is this review:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515450/     fyi13:14
zhurongsorry about can not help you with the ppt felipemonteiro13:14
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felipemonteirolearnmore_: i believe this was talked about at the ptg between us and pbourke, but page 44 of this user survey partially explains the lack of contribution in murano:13:16
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felipemonteiro#link https://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April2017SurveyReport.pdf13:16
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felipemonteirozhurong: np, i understand13:16
felipemonteirolearnmore_: thanks, i'll take a look at it more carefully later today13:17
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learnmore_Thanks.  I know I mentioned this to you before.  Sorry for repeating myself.13:20
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learnmore_felipemonteiro:  Thanks for the pointer to the slide.  So Kubernetes and Docker Swarm are popular, I see.13:23
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zhurongyep, I think k8s and docker swarm are popular learnmore_13:27
zhurongDo we have any other things want to discuss today?13:31
learnmore_Just one quick question:  Will we have these meetings every week?13:32
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zhurongyep, we will have, previous several times I didn't do it regularly for my personal reasons, sorry about this13:34
learnmore_np...13:35
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learnmore_I think the summit is next week, so I assume no meeting, yes?13:35
zhurongyep, I will send the ML to cancel the meeting13:36
learnmore_Anyways, that's all I have.13:36
felipemonteirothat's usually the case13:36
learnmore_felipemonteiro:  Good luck at the summit.  I hope you can get folks interested in this project!13:36
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zhurongfelipemonteiro: Hope you have a wonderful summit13:37
felipemonteirothanks, i'll certainly try13:39
zhurongSo I will end the meeting, hope to see you guys in the meeting after the summit13:39
zhurong#endmeeting13:39
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luzC#startmeeting refstack17:06
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 31 17:06:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is luzC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:06
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'refstack'17:06
luzChello, sorry for the delay17:06
luzCanyone here for the refstack meeting?17:07
mguineyo/17:07
mguineyofc17:07
pvanecko/17:07
luzC#link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-10-31 agenda17:08
luzCok, let's get started17:08
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luzC#topic refstack-client Tempest Autoconfig17:09
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luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489421/ spec17:09
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luzCchandankumar: are you around?17:10
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mguineyit looks like chandankumar was not going to be at the meeting, still had to update autoconfig spec17:10
mguineyaccording to chatter in channel, at least :)17:10
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luzCahh cool, thanks for the update17:11
luzC#action chandankumar is updating the spec17:11
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515494/ - Added sample tempest conf files17:12
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luzCthis one was submitted by Chris17:12
luzChe is adding tempest config file with the known config values that works for refstack17:13
luzC**refstack-client17:14
mguineyi definitely agree with your comment that they should be in a separate file17:14
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mguineyit makes a lot of sense, that17:15
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luzCok, feel free to leave comments on the patchset17:16
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mguineycan do!17:17
luzCthe next 2 patches are from python-tempestconf, not directly on refstack17:17
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luzCif you have time please review them17:17
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/513330  - WIP Add initial .zuul file and zuulv3 devstack job17:18
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515046/ - fix keystone v3 on python-tempestconf17:18
luzC#topic zuul v3 migration17:18
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luzCI have an open to review migration documentation and submit the patches... we can revisit next week17:20
luzCthis is linked to patch under maintenance work:17:20
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512936/ (zuul v3 migration)17:20
luzCthat will be the first step17:20
luzCquestions/ comments?17:21
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luzC#topic Subunit Upload17:21
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mguineyalright17:22
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506826/17:22
mguineyso we I have one change I have to make to this, but i'm hoping it's close to ready17:23
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mguineywell two, really17:23
mguineyI will be removing the list subunit uuids in favor of a "list all subunit data"17:23
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mguineyand changing the show subunit data to take the test id of the corresponding test result, rather than the subunit uuid17:24
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mguineythe idea behind that being to make it so that the end user doesnt have to deal with as much as the details management themselves, while referencing data17:25
mguineyand this should work because there should never really be subunit data without a corresponding test result17:26
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luzCagree17:27
luzCsounds good to me, please add the changes and details on the spec17:27
pvaneckI will give it another review after your next patch17:27
luzCme too17:28
luzCsomething else on this topic?17:28
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mguineynope!17:29
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luzC#topic Result Verification Field and Update17:29
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mguineymeant to get that pushed last night, but got caught up doing trab=vel logisitcs!17:29
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507695/ (disable anonymous upload)17:29
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mguineystill runiing into unit test issues on that one17:31
mguineyi am working through and adding the apprpriate cases that will prevent that from running into issues now17:31
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mguineybecause the main issue is that, of course, it has been trying to do post operations sans pubkey, which if that has been disabled, causes issues17:32
luzCok, try using tox command locally, once unit test is fixed push the patch for review17:32
mguineyyep!17:32
luzCmoving on17:32
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503495/ (token checking)17:32
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luzCa new patch was submitted last night17:33
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luzCI'll try to test it...17:34
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luzC#topic Maintenance work17:35
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luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512936/ (zuul v3 migration)17:36
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luzCwe briefly covered this one, feel free to review/ left comments17:36
luzCI'll take a look at the complete migration process so expect more related patches in the near future17:37
luzC#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513580/ (py35)17:37
luzCplease review it (testing it would be awesome too) :)17:38
luzC#topic API Docs17:39
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luzCI carried this topic from last agenda, but I don't recall what it is about17:39
luzCpvaneck: mguiney: do you know?17:40
mguineyI think it pertained to the zuul stuff, mostly17:40
pvaneckhmm, not entirely sure17:40
mguineythe upgrades/migration stuff17:40
mguineyoh wait wati17:41
mguineyi remember17:41
mguineyi thought we were still on migration stuff17:41
mguineyok so, though we have the specs, which are useful, we don't really have dinalized api documentation17:42
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mguineyits been on my backburner for a while now, because there always seems to be higher priority tasks17:42
mguineybut i'm going to be on a plane for 15 hours, and api writing is great offline work, so i may have a little time to put into those17:43
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luzCah ok, is it for the full Refstack API or just the subunit upload changes?17:44
mguineyfull refstack api17:44
mguineybecause it would be handy to have a unified source17:45
mguiney*docs writing, not api writing17:45
luzCsounds really, thanks mguiney17:45
luzC**really good17:45
mguineyi'm kinda psyched about it17:46
mguineythe api isnt awful to figure out as is, but as a newcomer to just about everything, i am a big bg fan of thorough documentation17:46
luzCyes, I agree, and in general I think documentation can be improved, for instance separate or rename current content into install guide, contributors guide, end user guide17:48
luzCetc17:48
luzCok, anything else on this topic17:48
luzC?\17:48
mguineynoop17:48
luzCok, next week is Sydney summit17:50
luzC#topic Sydney Summit17:50
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luzCany comment?17:51
luzCmguiney you are attending right?17:51
mguineyyep!17:51
pvaneckhow long is the plane ride?17:52
mguiney15 hours17:52
pvaneckaah, not tooo bad17:53
mguineya solid chunk of which i plan to sleep through, but should still be a long ride17:53
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mguineyheh. long for me, though17:53
luzCI think is way too long17:53
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mguineyi'm pretty hype about it, to be honest17:54
mguineyi love traveling in general, flying included17:55
luzC:-)17:55
luzCok, I guess next week meeting will be canceled17:55
luzCpvaneck, mguiney: any other open item? anything to discuss?17:56
mguineynope, not that I am aware of17:56
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luzCif not, I think we can close the meeting17:58
luzCmguiney enjoy the summit and have a safe trip17:58
mguineythank you, i'll try :)17:59
luzChopefully will talk again Nov 12 (in 2 weeks17:59
pvaneckyep, enjoy sydney17:59
pvanecksounds good17:59
luzC#endmeeting17:59
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mguineyhave a good two weeks, yall17:59
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