Thursday, 2017-11-02

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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackbswartz: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.15:01
tbarronhi15:01
bswartzhello all15:01
gansohello15:01
zhongjunhi15:01
bswartzcourtesy ping: cknight vponomaryov markstur gouthamr toabctl xyang15:01
tbarron17:47 yesterday: <efried> kumarmn I think you forgot to #endmeeting15:02
gansosomeone did not end the previous meeting :\15:02
marksturhi15:02
bswartzdoh15:02
bswartz#endmeeting15:02
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"15:02
openstackMeeting ended Thu Nov  2 15:02:12 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:02
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-11-01-15.00.html15:02
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-11-01-15.00.txt15:02
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2017/trove.2017-11-01-15.00.log.html15:02
bswartz#startmeeting manila15:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov  2 15:02:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:02
bswartzhello all15:02
gansohello15:02
zhongjunhi15:02
marksturhi15:02
dustins\o15:02
* bswartz notes that some people may be traveling to sydney already15:02
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dustinsIt is a long swim15:03
bswartz#topic announcements15:03
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bswartzdustins: lol15:03
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bswartzso sydney is next week15:04
bswartzI'm not going, but we will have some manila people there15:04
bswartzthanks for representing us gouthamr ganso vkmc15:05
gansoo/15:05
tbarronthe three musketeers15:05
bswartztraditionally we cancel the meeting on the week of the summit, but since only a minority of us will be there there, we can discuss what to do for next week15:06
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amito-infinidato/15:06
bswartzhow do you all feel about meeting next week?15:07
tbarroni don't see any reason to skip; even if some of us want to follow the happenings they are going to be 12 hours off from the manila meeting15:07
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zhongjunI am always here15:08
zhongjun:)15:08
tbarronbut I don't feel strongly if people want to take a break15:08
bswartzyeah anyone at the summit will see this meeting happen at 3AM15:08
tbarronlike zhongjun might want to get to sleep for once15:08
bswartzwell there's not much of an agenda today15:09
tbarronI see her answering questions in channel from people in asia all "night" (from my POV) and then coming to this meeting too!15:09
bswartzyeah thanks for being in the channel to answer questions zhongjun15:09
zhongjunhaha,  maybe15:09
dustinszhongjun++15:09
bswartzokay, well, I'm okay holding the meeting next week or not15:10
zhongjunbswartz: np15:10
amito-infinidatIt'll still be 5pm for me :)15:10
bswartzI don't see any harm in holding the meeting15:10
tbarronamito-infinidat: you can have a cocktail or a beer during the meeting then15:10
bswartzmaybe it will be short (like today will most likely be) or if not, we can resync with the people that missed it15:11
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:11
amito-infinidattbarron: that's a great idea15:11
bswartzthe only topic we have today is covering bugs15:11
bswartzamito-infinidat: like they say, it's always 5pm somewhere15:11
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bswartz#topic Let's go over new bugs15:12
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bswartzdustins: I added this topic for you, dunno if you have anything15:12
dustinsbswartz: Indeed I do!15:13
bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad15:13
dustinshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170821315:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1708213 in Manila "5.0.0.0b3 tests fail with ipaddress===1.0.17" [Undecided,New]15:13
bswartzdustins: I also fixed the caps (removed them)15:13
zhongjun#link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170794615:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1707946 in Manila "LVM driver fails to apply access rules to /0 networks" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Ben Swartzlander (bswartz)15:13
zhongjundustins: bswartz fixed it15:14
bswartzwait which bug ar we talking about15:14
dustinszhongjun: Go ahead, that looks more important than my bugs15:14
zhongjunBoth are the same?15:14
bswartzdustins: the one zhongjun linked was fixed by me in pike15:15
zhongjunI mean  since the second bug has been fixed, the first bug also be fixed too15:15
dustinszhongjun: I don't think so, the one I linked has to do with what looks to be an issue with a certain version of Python's ipaddress library15:16
bswartzoh15:16
bswartzso one of the issues is that there were badly written unit tests in this code path15:16
bswartzwhen I fixed the bug I also cleaned up the unit tests15:16
bswartzperhaps I accidentally fixed the other bug too15:16
bswartzit's hard to tell from the bug description15:17
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bswartzbug since we don't have failing tests anymore -- I think it's safe to assume this is resolved15:17
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dustinsbswartz: Sounds good to me15:17
tbarron+1, with  a comment to re-open if needed of course15:18
zhongjunyeah, since bswartz cleaned up the unit tests, we don't have the fail test now15:18
bswartzokay I marked it "fix released" with a note15:18
bswartznext?15:18
dustinshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170817415:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1708174 in Manila "glusterfs-native driver job fails" [Low,New]15:18
tbarronI tried to fix it but it was beyond me.15:19
dustinsThis is more of something of "do we still want to fix this"15:19
tbarronglusterfs has changed since the driver was written and no one mainitains it.15:19
bswartzI recommend we disable the job15:19
tbarronI propose that we mark it unmaintained and remove the job (or move it to experimental)15:19
bswartzwe've discussed this before IIRC -- is there a patch to do that yet?15:19
tbarronditto for hdfs, same deal15:19
tbarronI didn't remember that we agreed that it's OK, if it is I will follow through.15:20
bswartztbarron: +115:20
bswartzlet's decide now15:20
tbarronw.r.t. "mark it unmaintained" is driverlog sufficient for now?15:20
bswartzanyone opposed to marking glusterfs and/or hdfs unmaintained, and disabling the related CI jobs to stop wasting CPU cycles?15:20
tbarronif we do this then all first party jobs (even non-voting) should be green.15:21
bswartzif we do this, we should announce on the ML as well in case someone pops out of the woodwork to start maintaining them again15:21
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marksturgreen is good15:21
tbarronwell, there are some intermittent failures but we can start fixing these15:21
tbarron+1 on mail list15:22
bswartzI propose: push the patch to disable them, then post to the ML with a link to the patch15:22
bswartzif someone has an issue, they can -1 the patch15:22
dustinsSounds good to me15:22
zhongjun+1 fair15:22
bswartzideally 2 separate patches so they can be voted on and merged independently15:22
gansowe should set a deadline for someone to show up15:22
gansolike a week15:22
tbarronwe can wait till, say  M215:22
tbarron?15:22
tbarrongiven travel. sydney, etc.15:23
gansotbarron: +115:23
bswartzit's not hard to reverse such a patch though15:23
tbarronbswartz: true, we could set two weeks after patch submission as deadline in the email15:23
bswartzI agree we should wait a short while so people can read their mail, but no need to wait for weeks15:23
bswartzwon't the patch be to the infra-controlled project-config repo?15:24
bswartzin which case we don't control when it merges?15:24
tbarronbswartz: no, we've moved the jobs to be locally defined now15:24
tbarronzuulv315:24
bswartzoh even better15:24
bswartzso we can merged it when we like15:24
bswartzokay that's easy15:24
tbarronright, need to co-ordinate with raissa and her repo split but we know where she lives15:25
tbarronas it were15:25
bswartzis she traveling next week?15:25
tbarronnot that I know of15:25
bswartzcool15:25
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bswartzokay -- the patch that disables the glusterfs job should mark this bug as fixed :-)15:26
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tbarronbswartz: you can give me the AI to get the jobs removed15:26
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tbarronif you want15:26
bswartz#action tbarron push patches to disable unmaintained driver CI jobs15:26
bswartznext?15:26
dustinshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170737715:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1707377 in Manila "Quota usage value error" [Undecided,New]15:27
bswartzis this one of the known race-condition-related quota problems?15:28
bswartzwhere the counting gets off due to racing operations?15:28
zhongjunyeah, we talked it in PTG15:28
tbarron"delete the same share at the same time in each of 4 VMs"15:28
zhongjunIt is the same as cinder15:28
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bswartzso the plan is to fix this bug with a rewrite of the quota syste15:29
bswartzsystem15:29
tbarroncan we somehow mark this bug to indicate that it will wait for quota rewrite?15:29
bswartzyeah we can add a note15:29
dustinsWe can mark it as triaged and make note of that15:29
zhongjunThe plan was to do both,   rewrite of the quota syste and fix bug15:30
bswartzzhongjun: are you going that during queens?15:30
zhongjunno15:30
zhongjunIt is too big change15:30
bswartzwhoever volunteers to do that work should take ownership of the bug15:30
bswartzwe can target it a rocky for now15:30
bswartzand leave it unowned15:30
bswartznext?15:31
dustinshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170674315:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1706743 in Manila " Add share usage size tracking in doc" [Undecided,New]15:32
dustinsNext two are pretty easy, they're DocImpact bugs and just circling back to see if any other docs needed to be done on this one or the next one15:32
bswartzlooks like the DocImpact line caused this to get filed automatically15:32
bswartzwere any docs added related to this feature?15:32
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dustinsThe patch linked there does add docs15:33
dustins#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487273/15:33
bswartzso the bug can be closed then15:33
zhongjunI think so15:33
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dustinshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170670815:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1706708 in Manila " Add share groups and share group snapshots quotas" [Undecided,New]15:34
dustinsThat's the last one for this week15:34
dustinsSame deal, was opened by the DocImpact tag15:34
zhongjunWe should be careful about the DocImpact tag when we want to add it15:35
bswartzthe whole point of the DocImpact tag is to create these bugs15:35
bswartzthe theory being that someone other than the implementor will be writing the docs15:36
bswartzif we write docs in the same patch as the code, then no tag is needed15:36
gansozhongjun: why should we be careful if we are adding something that requires a doc update?15:36
tbarronganso: I think she's saying the same thing as Ben15:36
zhongjunganso : like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487273/,  It doesn't need a tage15:37
zhongjuns/tage/doc tag15:37
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gansotbarron: oh ok, ya if the patch already includes doc then no tag is required15:37
tbarronganso: it doesn't do a lot of harm, but reviewers can note that it's not needed and we can save some process15:37
gansozhongjun: yea that was a mistake15:38
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zhongjunganso : :)  just remind myself15:38
bswartzso what about the docs for share groups and share group snapshots quotas"15:38
bswartz?15:38
bswartzanything more needed on those?15:39
dustinsEither they exist or they don't15:39
tbarronI don't think it was included with the code, but zhong has been working on it I think ??15:39
zhongjunbswartz:  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/manila+branch:master+topic:bug/172471615:39
tbarronI doublt vponomaryov has any time for it now.15:39
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dustinsHeh, likely not :)15:40
bswartzdoh we keep not reviewing these patches15:40
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zhongjunDo I need to add this bug in my patches, or just close it15:40
bswartzideally the bug would be mentioned in the commit15:40
bswartzbut it's really not that important for a docimpact bug15:40
dustinszhongjun: I think you can just do Closes-Bug on that ID15:40
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bswartzdocimpact bugs are really a misuse of LP15:41
bswartzLP bugs are only supposed to contain infomration relevant to end users15:41
zhongjundustins: We have more than one bug about share group , share snapshot group docs :D15:41
tbarronthese patches are passing check, I don't see a reason to change the commit msg and make check run again15:41
gansowell, it informs that such documentation is missing and someone needs to volunteer to work on it15:41
gansobswartz: ^15:41
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dustinstbarron: +115:41
dustinsganso: +115:42
dustinsDocs are arguably the most important end-user information15:42
bswartzdustins: yes but tracking bugs reminding us to write docs are just noise to an end user15:42
bswartzopenstack lacks any kind of "task tracking" system so we abuse other tools like LP15:43
tbarronJust put a remark in 1706708 that the doc was taken care of in 172471615:43
tbarronthat it is a dupe of 172471615:43
tbarronclose it as such15:43
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bswartzdustins: that all for bugs?15:44
dustinsYup!15:44
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zhongjunAdd some commit in the doc bug link15:44
bswartz#topic open discussion15:45
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bswartzanyone have somthing else not on the agenda?15:45
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zhongjunBy the way, those docs about share group is ready for review15:45
tbarron:-)15:45
bswartz zhongjun: yes I'm embarrassed that they've gone for so long without getting merged15:46
bswartzI'll get on that15:46
zhongjunThanks15:46
bswartzokay so at this point the meeting for next week is on15:46
bswartzprobably it will be a short agenda like this week15:47
bswartzif we need to cancel it, I'll announce on the ML15:47
bswartzthat's all for today15:47
bswartzthanks a15:47
bswartzthanks all!15:47
bswartz#endmeeting15:47
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lhinds#startmeeting security17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov  2 17:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'17:00
lhinds#topic roll-call17:00
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lhindsanyone around?17:00
gj2017gj201717:00
lhindshi gj201717:00
gj2017hey17:00
lhindslet's see if we get some others join17:01
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lhindsare you working on any other openstack projects gj2017 ?17:01
gagehugoo/17:01
gj2017working with openstack on an R&D project17:02
lhindshi gagehugo17:02
gj2017just compelted mirantis OCM10017:02
lhindsgj2017: cool, just ask out interest, not important to being here.17:02
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lhindsOCM100?17:02
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lhinds#topic agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda17:03
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gj2017OpenStack Certification by Mirantis17:03
lhindsah ok17:03
gj2017Simular COA17:03
gj2017I am a security engineer leaning cloud17:03
lhindsshould be quick this meeting, so will try to swifty go through the agenda:17:03
lhinds#topic security docs17:04
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lhindsone up for review:17:04
lhindshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/517200/17:04
lhindsthat's it really, i still have some stuff locally I need to clean up17:04
lhinds#topic bandit17:05
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lhindshttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/bandit17:05
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lhindsgagehugo: agree with you on times.db in testenv17:05
lhindsI was running on arch, and something might have been different in my env,so I used a vm with fedora and it worked ok17:06
lhindsthe other is mareks patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510602/17:06
gagehugolhinds there was a comment in the bug report about changing to stestr17:06
gagehugothat might make that fix unneeded17:06
gagehugoI'm fixing mareks help text issue atm17:07
gagehugothat help text / readme comparison test makes me sad17:07
lhindsgagehugo: agree, is that a simple change?17:07
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gagehugoyeah most other projects have migrated over I think17:07
lhindsmaybe we should abandon and change it the right way, sounds best to me.17:07
gagehugoyeah I'm fine with that if it fixes it17:08
lhindsok, will update the page17:08
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lhindsother items...17:09
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lhindsI am still on the threat analysis gagehugo , making progress as well. just making sure I do it thorough17:09
gagehugocool!17:10
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lhindsThe other item is STIG discussion..17:10
lhindsso there was a dicussion on the list:17:10
lhinds#link https://openstack.nimeyo.com/122013/openstack-dev-security-security-sig17:10
lhindsrecommend reading that and see if its agreeable.17:10
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lhindsmy suggestion was we complete queens as we are, and put up a SIG page over this cycle and see if it gains momentum17:11
lhindswant to avoid changing for the sake of changing, if nothing changes :)17:11
gagehugook17:12
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lhindsso that's the main items..17:12
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lhindsis there anything from you guys?17:12
gj2017nope, just need to read17:13
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lhindsgagehugo: I owe you an email still17:13
lhinds(about core)17:13
gagehugook17:13
lhindscool, i think we can close then for this week17:13
gj2017have a great week17:14
lhindsthanks gj2017 , see you gagehugo17:14
lhinds#endmeeting17:14
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