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masahitohi all, time to blazar meeting.09:00
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masahito#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 14 09:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:00
masahito#topic RollCall09:01
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hiro-kobayashio/09:01
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hritoo/09:01
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masahitohiro-kobayashi, hrito, priteau: hi09:02
masahitoToday's agenda is...09:02
masahito1. the Sydney Summit recap09:02
masahito2. the patch for blazarclient09:02
masahito3. AOB09:02
masahitoanything else?09:02
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priteauNothing else from me09:04
masahito#topic the sydney summit recap09:04
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masahitoWe had onboarding session in the summit.09:04
masahitoThe number of attendances looks over 10.09:05
masahitoLots of people have an interest for blazar project now.09:06
priteauIt could have been more, I had informed a member of the Scientific SIG who is interested in Blazar, but it was conflicting with their own meeting09:06
masahitoAnd I heard some interests to use Blazar in someone's cloud.09:06
hiro-kobayashiIt's so nice!09:07
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masahitopriteau: oh I see. I didn't meet them. anything they want?09:07
masahitos/want/need/09:08
priteauThey want to learn more about it. They're in the UK so I will speak with them at some point.09:08
masahitogot it. I'm looking forward to hearing the feedback later.09:09
masahitohiro-kobayashi: Do you have something to share in the summit?09:10
hiro-kobayashiI felt Blazar is recognized better than before.09:10
hiro-kobayashiThe project map shown at the keynote had a blazar :-)09:11
hiro-kobayashiIt's a great progress!09:11
hiro-kobayashiOne thing to share, I talked to PTL of Heat09:12
hiro-kobayashiI proposed Heat to use blazar in their engine.09:12
hiro-kobayashiReaction was not bad, we can start some cross project work, maybe09:13
priteauGreat news09:13
masahitohiro-kobayashi: nice!09:14
hiro-kobayashimasahito: I remember someone from Monash University contacted to you. How about that?09:14
masahitoIf Heat uses Blazar internally, it's so nice!09:14
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masahitoHe said he's interested in Blazar project to make sure each tenant's instance/hypervisor are divided.09:16
masahitoThe usecase sounds similar to Chameleon project.09:17
priteauIs he Blair?09:17
masahitoNo09:17
masahitoI don09:17
priteauMaybe one of his colleagues09:18
masahitoI didn't hear he is in Sientific SIG or not.09:18
hiro-kobayashiIs Blair from same organization?09:18
hiro-kobayashipriteau: I mean is Blair from Monash University?09:19
masahitoThe guy who I met is from Monash University.09:19
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masahitoAnyway, I'll follow up him later.09:20
priteauBlair Bethwaite is working for Monash, he is involved in the NeCTAR cloud09:20
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hiro-kobayashipriteau: got it. does NeCTAR plan to use blazar?09:21
priteauWe had some early discussions in the past09:21
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hiro-kobayashipriteau: Nice. If they need some help, we can support ;-)09:23
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masahitoNice! if we can discuss it again.09:23
masahitoanything else about the summit?09:24
priteauHow did the other Blazar talk go?09:25
masahitoThe presentation from NTT lab was good.09:25
masahitoIt was LT but around 25 peoples came to the room.09:26
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priteauNice09:26
masahitoI was just standing beside of the presenter :-) But I feel it gave more attentions to Blazar.09:28
masahitookay, move on to next topic.09:29
masahito#topic blazarclient09:29
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masahitoI saw the patch for blazarclient by hrito.09:29
masahitofirst of all. Thanks for your works!09:30
masahitohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/517849/09:30
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masahitohrito: anything to share about it?09:31
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masahitoMy comment for PS3 is just one. v1.client.Client class needs to support positioning arguments.09:32
hritomasahito: Nothing in paticular but I found a mistake and so I'll update the patch after the meeting.09:34
masahitookay.09:34
masahitoany comment?09:35
masahito#topic AOB09:36
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hiro-kobayashiI have one update to share.09:37
masahitoDoes someone have something to share/update?09:37
masahitohiro-kobayashi: okay, go a head.09:37
hiro-kobayashiAbout resource-monitoring. First of all, thanks for reviewing the spec!09:38
hiro-kobayashiBecause the spec is almost approved, I've started to implement it.09:38
hiro-kobayashihttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/blazar+branch:master+topic:bp/resource-monitoring09:38
hiro-kobayashi2 patches so far. Some patches will follow in some weeks. Please review them.09:39
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masahitoGreat!09:40
hiro-kobayashiThat's all from my side09:40
masahitoJust one question.09:41
masahitoIIRC, state-machine BP also has some workitems, so should it finish the BP before state-monitoring?09:41
hiro-kobayashiYes, some part of resource-monitoring depends on the state-machine blueprint09:42
hiro-kobayashiSo I've started by implementing some parts which do not depend on the state-machine.09:43
masahitohiro-kobayashi: Do you have a time to implement it? If support is needed, I can volunteer it.09:43
hiro-kobayashimasahito: Thank you very much. For the state-machine BP, I think one patch is enough: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512198/09:44
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masahitookay.09:45
hiro-kobayashiI've not yet implemented test code. After it get big comments, I'll continue implementation09:45
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hiro-kobayashiI'll tell you if I need any help. thanks!09:46
masahitoanything else?09:47
hiro-kobayashinot from my side09:47
masahitoIf nothing more to discuss, we can finish this meeting early.09:48
masahitothanks all!09:50
masahitoSee you in next week!09:51
hiro-kobayashiThanks! good bye :-)09:51
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masahito#endmeeting09:51
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Nov 14 09:51:24 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:51
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-11-14-09.00.html09:51
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-11-14-09.00.txt09:51
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zhurong#startmeeting murano13:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 14 13:02:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhurong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
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zhurong#topic RoleCall13:02
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zhurong#endmeeting13:15
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strigazi#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 14 16:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
strigazi#topic Roll Call16:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)"16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'16:00
*** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)"16:00
strigaziSpyros Trigazis16:00
slunkadSayali Lunkad16:00
mgoddardMark Goddard16:01
KwozyManCostin Gamenț16:01
vabadaDaniel Abad16:01
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strigaziThanks for joining the meeting slunkad mgoddard KwozyMan vabada16:02
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strigaziToday's agenda:16:02
strigazi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-11-14_1600_UTC16:02
strigazi#topic Announcements16:02
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strigaziMagnum meeting calendar: You can import this ical file:16:03
strigazi#link https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/dl8ufmpm2ahi084d038o7rgoek%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics16:03
strigazi#topic Review Action Items16:03
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strigaziNone16:03
strigazi#topic Review Blueprints/Bugs/Ideas16:04
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strigaziAdd support of k8s cluster over opensuse distro https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/k8s-opensuse-support16:04
strigazislunkad: Do you have anything to discuss, can we start testing?16:04
slunkadstrigazi: sorry there hasn't been much work on it for some weeks because i had taken some time off16:04
slunkadstrigazi: I am working on the unit tests right now16:05
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strigazislunkad: do you have functional tests too? These are equally important16:06
slunkadmight have to wait a little more for testing as I need to work on providing the image too16:06
slunkadstrigazi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507522/8/magnum/tests/functional/k8s_opensuse/test_k8s_python_client.py16:06
strigaziif you have an image I can put it in https://fedorapeople.org/groups/magnum/ temporarily16:07
slunkadstrigazi: alright I will ping you soon with the image16:07
strigazislunkad: thanks16:07
strigaziNext is: Use the heat agent and Software Deployments in heat templates16:08
strigazihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/468816/16:08
strigaziI'm investigating how smooth is to use ansible from the container to the host or ssh directly16:09
strigaziThere is one important operation that can't be executed from the container to the host16:09
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strigaziCreating a system container on the host requires to create a hardlink per container16:10
strigaziand that is not possible since each container has each own namespace16:10
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strigaziThat's it, otherwise the patch is ready, so please test it.16:11
strigaziI'm trying to test in our production infra too16:11
strigazi"it works on devstack" is not enough xD16:11
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strigaziAnd I have one more: Cluster upgrades16:12
strigaziWIP: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/magnum+branch:master+topic:bp/cluster-upgrades16:12
strigaziI'll udpate the spec with API examples https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433728/16:12
strigaziHave a look if you haven't already16:13
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strigaziOh, one last item that I need some input from mgoddard and slunkad16:13
slunkadsure16:14
strigaziThere is this bug regading the update operation that I mentioned before16:14
strigazi#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/172257316:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1722573 in Magnum "Limit the scope of cluster-update for heat drivers" [Undecided,New]16:14
strigazivabada from our team will work on it16:15
vabada+116:15
strigaziand we are thinking if it is better to just change the existing update command or16:15
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strigazifix the existing command, deprecate it and add a new scale command too16:16
strigaziThe reasoning behind it is16:16
strigaziThat the update commands tries to apply a patch to the cluster object which is just too generic16:17
strigaziand at the same time we limit the command explicitly to do scale up/down the cluster16:17
strigazimgoddard: slunkad thoughts?16:17
slunkadstrigazi: what all is the new command expected to do?16:18
strigaziChange the size of the worker nodes resource group16:18
slunkadI definitely agree that the current way will not take us far especially because it limits the scope16:19
slunkadI would be in favor of adding a new command with more scope16:20
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strigaziThe existing command can work, but if we try to add more functionality to the update command we will start to have redirections for each operation.16:21
strigaziok then we will try some prototype implementation16:22
slunkadright, it seems like a one time effort to have a smart method to do that16:22
strigazicool16:23
strigazilet's move to open discussion16:23
strigazi#topic Open Discussion16:23
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: containers)"16:23
strigaziany other business?16:24
strigazisaid once16:25
strigazisaid twice16:25
strigazilet's wrap it up then16:25
slunkadbye!16:26
strigaziThanks for joining, see you next week :)16:26
strigazi#endmeeting16:26
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hogepodge#startmeeting refstack17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 14 17:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hogepodge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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hogepodge#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-11-14 agenda17:01
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hogepodgePost summit and post return to standard time in US make make this meeting pretty light.17:02
hogepodges/make make/may make/17:03
hogepodgeI'll give it a few minutes, then cancel if we have no attendance.17:03
chandankumar\o/17:03
mguineyo/17:04
mguineysorry, daylight savings weird17:04
hogepodge#topic refstack-client Tempest Autoconfig17:05
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489421/ spec17:05
hogepodgeNew spec is up17:05
chandankumarfeel free to take a look. i will start working on integrating refstack client with config tool from this week17:06
hogepodgeTaking a quick look, seems like everything is covered.17:07
toskyI was just adding a -1 :)17:08
hogepodgetosky: good :-)17:08
* chandankumar waits for the comment.17:08
hogepodgeDocumenting clouds.yaml vs accounts.yaml is worthwhile. I've been caught by that before in other instances. If we're looking at clouds.yaml does it also make sense to pick up environment variables, and define an order of what is parsed? Like accounts.yaml > clouds.yaml > env?17:10
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chandankumartosky: ah cosmetic changes i will update that, thanks for the nit pick. :-)17:11
toskyuhm, but aren't they are totally different? accounts.yaml is tempest; clouds.yaml is os-client-config17:11
hogepodgethe spec calls out using clouds.yaml as an option, though (although not automatically)17:13
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hogepodgewhich I think makes sense, from an autogeneration of accounts.yaml standpoint along with tempest.conf17:14
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chandankumarhogepodge: if we are going to source the required rc file, then config tool will take care of auto generation of tempest.conf17:14
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chandankumarbut if we want to use specific cloud then cloud.yaml or accounts.yml would be useful17:16
hogepodgeJust covering out bases from where the credentials come from.17:17
hogepodges/out/our/17:18
* mguiney nods17:18
chandankumaryup17:18
mguineymakes sense to nail that down now17:18
hogepodgeKind of along the lines of this work, I wrote up a quick sample tempest.conf file17:19
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515494/ sample tempest.conf17:19
hogepodgeMainly to use as a starting point in documentation.17:19
hogepodge(I got a it tired of dragging it around everywhere)17:20
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hogepodgechandankumar: tosky: thanks for picking up the work on this.17:20
hogepodgeeveryone, let's get the spec reviewed, sounds like work is underway on it :-)17:20
hogepodgeAny other items on this topic?17:20
chandankumarnope for this week.17:21
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hogepodge#topic zuul v3 migration17:21
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512936/17:22
hogepodgelooks like luzC isn't around?17:22
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hogepodgeAny comments on the v3 job migration?17:23
chandankumarhogepodge: the patch needs to be updated, it has got comments17:24
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mguiney^17:24
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hogepodgeAlright, we'll wait for patch update.17:25
hogepodge#topic Subunit upload17:26
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506826/ spec17:26
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mguineylooks like paul gave it a +217:27
hogepodgeI haven't finished reviewing the latest yet.17:27
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hogepodgeLooks like everything is there, though. I'll finish the review later today and merge if nothing stands out.17:29
hogepodgeGood differentiation between the put and post methods. Thanks for working on this mguiney17:30
* mguiney thumbs ups17:30
mguineyexcited to start getting stuff done on the actual API17:31
hogepodge#topic Result Verification Field and Update17:31
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503495/ token validation17:31
hogepodgemerged the last part of the script this morning17:32
hogepodgethanks again mguiney17:32
* mguiney thumbs ups again17:32
hogepodgeBefore we can run the script we need to disable anonymous upload17:32
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507695/ Disable Anonymous Upload17:33
hogepodgeAnother patch I need to review, this one will take a bit more time.17:33
hogepodgeNeed to sort out the coverage too. ;-)17:33
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hogepodgeOk, moving on17:35
hogepodge#topic Maintenance work17:35
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513580/ Fix authentication via openid when py3517:35
hogepodgeMore py35 fixes.17:35
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hogepodgeLooks like Paul has checked it. Another patch I need to review, but looks straightforward17:36
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hogepodgeAny other maintenance issues?17:36
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mguineyre tox: yeah on it, had to put stuff down to study yesterday, worry17:36
mguiney*soory17:37
hogepodge#topic Docs17:38
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hogepodgeSounds like we've deferred the docs work until some of the other work as merged17:38
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hogepodgePlan is still to consolidate the API documentation from the specs into a proper reference document17:39
mguineyi have been working on this, and have gotten a fair bit into it, but yes17:39
hogepodgemguiney: it's ok to send up a WIP :-)17:40
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mguineyahhhhh ok, will send one up as soon as i get done wil the controller that i've currently been working on17:41
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hogepodge#topic Sydney wrap up17:42
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hogepodge#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-refstack-nfv RefStack/NFV session17:42
hogepodgeWe met with some OPNFV folks to talk about sharing some guideline reporting work17:43
hogepodgeThey're interested, but need to work out some things internally before they can commit to sharing this work.17:43
hogepodgetl;dr is that if there's an opportunity to share the load (either via refstack or another project) we'd be open to it17:43
hogepodgebut for now continuing as-is17:44
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hogepodge#topic Open Discussion17:45
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hogepodgeAnything else for today?17:45
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hogepodgeok, thanks everybody!17:46
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mguineyhave a good day, y'all!17:47
hogepodge#endmeeting17:47
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