Thursday, 2017-11-30

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toabctl#startmeeting rpm_packaging13:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 30 13:01:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is toabctl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"13:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging'13:01
toabctlping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof13:01
toabctl#chair dirk jpena13:01
openstackCurrent chairs: dirk jpena toabctl13:01
toabctl#topic roll call13:01
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"13:01
jpenao/13:02
number80o/13:02
jpenaI'm in another meeting at the same time, so mostly listening13:02
number80I'm in the same meeting ^^13:02
dirko/13:02
dirkjpena: ah, so an hour later would be preferableß13:02
dirkwe could also do earlier now that Igor seems to have regained interest :)13:03
jpenaI have a sprint review&retro meeting every two weeks, so this time is mostly ok, unless we want to do it 12:00PM13:03
toabctlone hour ealier/later would fine for me13:03
toabctl#topic changing meeting time?13:04
*** openstack changes topic to "changing meeting time? (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"13:04
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number80later should work for me, earlier depends on too many factors13:04
toabctlso what about 14 UTC ?13:05
dirktoabctl: 8pm for igor, might work13:05
number80+1 for me13:05
dirkit mostly works for me13:05
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toabctljpena, is that ok for you, too?13:05
jpenait's mostly ok for me (still some conflicts, but probably easier to handle them)13:05
toabctlok.13:06
toabctl#agreed change meeting time to 14 UTC13:06
toabctlah. one thing. we might need to move to another room then...13:06
dirkreportedly it is allowed to do meetings in your normal channel nowadays13:07
dirkso we could do it in openstack-rpm-packaging13:07
number80yes, it should be fine there13:07
toabctlok. then let's do it there. imo that;s even better13:07
dirkwe just need to invite the bot over13:07
toabctldirk, do you know how todo that?13:07
dirknot offhand, but I can ask13:07
dirkI'll take a look at that13:08
toabctldirk, ok. thanks. will you also update http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/ to reflect the new time?13:09
dirkyep, can be done in a single review13:09
toabctl#action dirk updates the meeting time in git and invites the meeting bot to #openstack-rpm-packaging13:10
toabctl#topic PTG attendance13:10
*** openstack changes topic to "PTG attendance (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"13:10
toabctlI got a mail about PTG attendance13:10
toabctlI need to fillout a form until 5th december if we plan to attend13:11
dirkI'll likely go13:11
toabctlpersonally I'm not sure yet if I can attend13:11
toabctljpena, number80 are you going to Dublin?13:11
jpenawe have both requested it. I think that in a worst case at least one of us will go (or both if we are lucky)13:12
number80toabctl: pending approval from management but we requested it13:12
number80Well, we'll have someone there, I may yell if it doesn't happen :)13:13
* number80 didn't check if someone from management was here before saying that /o\13:13
* dirk neither :)13:14
number80But we have good backups (e.g Alfredo also is in the list)13:14
toabctlok. I submitted that we have 2-5 people there and can share a room with other teams13:15
number80+113:15
toabctl#topic open floor13:16
*** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)"13:16
cousin_luigiHello.13:16
toabctlanything else to discuss?13:16
toabctlhey cousin_luigi13:16
cousin_luigiYes, if I may.13:16
toabctlgop ahead13:16
cousin_luigiI mentioned it yesterday to dirk, but the current openstack singlespec setup breaks the older leaps builds.13:16
cousin_luigiMissing %python_subpackages macro.13:16
number80oh13:17
toabctlcousin_luigi, is that something we can solve in rpm-packaging? or can we just fix the macros for leap in the OBS project?13:17
cousin_luigitoabctl: Possibly, but dirk mentioned simply updating the macros package as a solution.13:17
cousin_luigiOr replacing it outright. I just wanted to make it official:)13:18
dirkcousin_luigi: can you share the link to the package that has the issue? I forgot about that already13:19
dirkcousin_luigi: I can take a look. a simple solution is to use python-rpm-macros buildrequires in addition13:19
cousin_luigidirk: It's not there yet, I had linked python-stevedore to my branch project. Do you want me to re-create it?13:19
toabctlcousin_luigi, it sounds to me like a downstream openSUSE problem. nothing we can handle in openstack/rpm-packaging13:20
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* dirk volunteers toabctl to take the action item and solve it until next week ;)13:21
cousin_luigidirk: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:alois:branches:devel:languages:python/python-stevedore13:21
cousin_luigiWell, you're the experts:)13:21
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toabctlok. I think we can solve this within openSUSE13:23
toabctlanything else to discuss?13:24
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dirkpython3 feedback from RDO side?13:24
jpenanothing for me13:24
dirkit looks like master/ we are getting close to having the first clients available from single spec for both python2+313:24
dirkthanks for the speedy reviews btw13:24
dirkI'll fix the current ci issue now and then we should be getting glanceclient working later today13:24
dirkjpena: are there new plans related to python 3 in centos/rhel going forward that you can share ?13:25
dirkwould be good to enable singlespec for that as well13:25
jpenaafaik, we can only expect "proper" python3 support in centos/rhel when RHEL 8 is out, whenever that happens13:26
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dirktoo bad13:27
toabctlok. let's close it here13:29
toabctlthanks everybody!13:29
toabctl#endmeeting13:29
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"13:29
openstackMeeting ended Thu Nov 30 13:29:28 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:29
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-11-30-13.01.txt13:29
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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 30 15:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
bswartzhello all15:00
dustins\o15:00
amito-infinidato/15:00
tbarronHi!15:00
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gansohello15:01
bswartzcourtesy ping: gouthamr zhongjun toabctl xyang markstur vponomaryov cknight15:01
zhongjunhi15:01
bswartzwow it's a small group today15:02
tbarronyeah15:02
amito-infinidatand I'll be leaving the chat soon for my bus, unfortunately15:02
zhongjunIs it special today?15:02
bswartzokay let's get started15:02
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bswartzno, I would have expected people to be back from holidays15:03
bswartz#topic announcements15:03
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jungleboyjo/15:03
bswartzfirst of all, we already mentioned it on the ML, but welcome zhongjun to the manila core reviewer team!15:04
gansowelcome zhongjun! =D15:04
tbarron+100015:04
zhongjunThank you everyone!15:04
amito-infinidatwelcome :)15:04
bswartzzhongjun: is your +2 button working?15:04
tbarronzhongjun: just keep catching issues in reviews that I miss!15:04
zhongjunbswartz: yes15:04
bswartzif you have any questions about our team policies, please come ask me15:05
jungleboyjzhongjun:  Congratulations!15:05
bswartzI assume you're familiar with all the normal rules about merging changes15:05
bswartzsecond thing -- we are just one week away from milestone 215:05
zhongjuntbarron jungleboyj: :)  thanks15:05
bswartzthere is a driver proposal freeze next Monday15:06
zhongjunbswartz: sure , I will15:06
bswartz#link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html#q-manila-driver-deadline15:06
bswartzI know amito-infinidat is working against that deadline15:06
amito-infinidatbswartz: yes. Our CI is running, but we experienced a lab crash last night so some of our hosts have issues not related to the zuul/tempest environment.15:07
vkmco/15:07
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amito-infinidatbswartz: so we're working to get to a working 3rd party CI.15:07
bswartzI'll just remind everyone that feature proposal freeze is just 5 weeks later, and due to the winter holidays, we have very little time to do coding/reviews between milestone 2 and feature proposal freeze15:08
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bswartzamito-infinidat: sorry to hear that -- I hope you can recover quickly15:08
amito-infinidatbswartz: thanks15:09
bswartzon to our agenda15:09
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bswartz#topic Report from Wuhan Bug Smash15:09
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bswartzzhongjun: I assume you added this?15:09
bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Queens-Wuhan-Bugs-List15:09
zhongjunbswartz: Actually, it isn't15:09
zhongjunbswartz: But I still want to say the good thing is we fixed 17 bugs in whhan bug smash, and all people come from 5 different companies (firberhome, chinamobile, H3c, 99cloud, huawei ). Thanks all of them15:10
bswartzthe name on the wiki update is tpb -- is that tbarron?15:10
zhongjunbswartz: Some of the bugs from dustins’s bug list, thanks dustins15:11
bswartzhow many of those bugs were related to manila?15:11
tbarronbswartz: sorry, in another convo, that was me15:11
tbarronlook at how many were manila: 17 reviews!15:12
dustinszhongjun: Of course! Hopefully that helped out :)15:12
zhongjunbswartz:  17 bugs related to manila15:12
bswartzoh wow15:12
tbarronmanila had more reviews than nova or neutron15:12
bswartzthat's awesome15:12
dustinsThat's amazing!15:12
tbarronwith five companies participating I think15:12
bswartzI dedicated wednesday to reviewing15:12
bswartzbut I didn't manage to cover that many bugs15:12
tbarronAnyways, I've reviewed a bunch, but we need more eyes.15:13
bswartzso what's left to do? are all of these fixes merged or are some waiting for review?15:13
zhongjunWe could continue to review those bugs15:13
bswartzyeah I'm clicking some links from the etherpad and seeing these still need reviews15:13
zhongjunsome waiting for review15:14
bswartzso let's try to get some eyes on these bugs -- I'd like to merge them before the milestone, so milestone 2 can deliver a bunch of fixes15:14
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bswartzI'd like to reorder the next 2 topics15:15
bswartzI think it makes sense to cover bugs last, because it can take a lot of time15:15
bswartz#topic Use v3 cinder client instead of v2 cinder client15:16
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bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522478/15:16
zhongjunbswartz: thanks15:16
bswartzthis one is definitely yours zhongjun15:16
zhongjunCinder has been deprecated v2 api in Pike, So Could we use v3 cinder client instead of v2 cinderclient.15:16
zhongjun#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52247815:16
zhongjun#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438195/15:17
bswartzwhy does this look like mostly a deletion of code? did we already support cinderv3?15:17
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zhongjunIt looks like it is work now15:17
jungleboyjv3 is a supserset of v2.  Should be pretty painless.15:17
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bswartzinteresting15:18
bswartzwhere do we use cinder outside of the generic driver?15:18
zhongjunWe just use some of main cinder API15:18
tbarronthis is similar to my WIP patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516127/15:18
tbarronwhich attempted similar changes for nova & neutron15:18
tbarronbut maybe I was confused, I thought those options were for those clients to interact with keystone v215:19
tbarronbswartz: I think only generic uses the cinder client15:19
bswartzokay so we should look closely at any test failures in the generic driver jobs15:19
bswartztbarron: I see glusterfs and hdfs jobs are hanging around still -- aren't we trying to remove those?15:20
tbarronbswartz: yeah, they were removed from the check queue but didn't go away15:21
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tbarronbswartz: I've been working with infra, there's some weird zuulv3 inheritance at work15:21
bswartzwhat else do we need to do to make them stop consuming resources?15:21
bswartzI see15:21
tbarronhopefully we'll get it sorted soon15:22
bswartzzhongjun: anything we need to discusss related to this patch? or you just wanted to call attention to it for reviews?15:22
zhongjunokay,  if the generic driver work fine, we could use cinder v3 instead of v2?15:22
bswartzyeah we should not use a deprecated API15:22
bswartzso I agree with the intent15:22
zhongjunyeah, then just need more eyes on it :)15:23
bswartzand because it only affects the generic driver, that's where we should look for regressions15:23
bswartzokay thanks15:23
tbarronI think the patch is mixing two things but that's probably ok if we just update the commit msg15:23
tbarron1) cinder v2->v315:23
tbarron2) old deprecated keystone options15:23
tbarronused by cinder client15:23
bswartztbarron: I trust you'll provide a -1 then15:24
tbarronon it15:24
bswartzor just update the commit message15:24
bswartz#topic Let's go over new bugs15:24
*** openstack changes topic to "Let's go over new bugs (Meeting topic: manila)"15:24
zhongjuntbarron : good15:24
tbarronright, we probably should do more of the latter15:24
bswartzdustins: you're up15:24
bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad15:24
dustinsI'm still digging out from the holiday, so I haven't had a look yet15:24
dustinsThere will be plenty for next week though :D15:25
* dustins just got back yesterday15:25
bswartzdustins: we didn't meet last week, and IIRC you were absent 2 weeks ago so we covered this for you15:25
dustinsbswartz: Yeah, I was in training two weeks ago15:25
* bswartz goes to check15:25
bswartzactually I don't see any coverage from 2 week ago15:26
bswartzso we haven't really examined this etherpad in 3 weeks15:26
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bswartzis there some overlap between these bugs and the bug smash bugs?15:26
dustinsThe ones from the bug scrub I picked because they were triaged or were fairly trivial/wish listy thing15:27
bswartzat least one bug linked here is "fix released"15:27
bswartzso yeah we need to update the etherpad15:28
tbarronwhen we do, probably think about which need backports15:28
tbarrone.g. 1730529 s/b backported to pike as it was found in pike15:28
bswartzwho drives the decision to backport the fixes?15:28
* tbarron cherry-picks15:28
bswartzis that dustins?15:29
bswartzor you tbarron?15:29
tbarronjunboli15:29
bswartztypically we (netapp) only try to backport fixes that our customers complain about15:29
tbarronbut we can add pike-backport-potential and cherry-pick15:29
tbarronthis bug says pike in its title15:29
tbarronand we (redhat) do pro-active backports to minimize customer pain15:30
tbarronand our expense :-)15:30
bswartztagging the bug with backport-potential in LP is the traditional way to do it15:30
bswartzbut we haven't been scanning the list for bugs with those tags very consistently15:30
tbarronb/c it's more work to do it re-actively than pro-actively if you know it needs fixing15:30
tbarronack on not scanning the list well, I can help15:31
bswartzokay well you're welcome to initial backports for the ones you think will matter15:31
bswartzs/initial/initiate/15:31
bswartz#topic open discussion15:31
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bswartzokay we have extra time today15:31
bswartzanything else we should cover?15:32
bswartzalright, thanks everyone15:32
amito-infinidatAssuming the CI will finally pass, do you think our driver can be approved till Monday? (the last day according to the sches)15:32
amito-infinidats/sches/schedule15:32
bswartzamito-infinidat: the work just needs to be done by then15:33
gansoamito-infinidat: monday is the last day for the driver to be proposed15:33
gansoamito-infinidat: with working CI and unit tests15:33
bswartzwe can review it and merge it in the following weeks15:33
bswartzwe just won't accept half-done drivers or drivers without a working CI system15:33
bswartzso don't worry about the review/merge part15:33
amito-infinidatok15:33
bswartz#endmeeting15:34
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jungleboyjThanks.15:34
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lhinds#startmeeting security17:06
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 30 17:06:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:06
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)"17:06
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'17:06
gagehugoprobably should have pinged you here17:06
lhinds#topic agenda17:06
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lhinds#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda17:06
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lhinds#topic docs17:07
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lhindsonly one still floating which is mine, will try to fix it up this week:17:08
lhindshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/518721/17:08
gagehugoI will take a look17:08
lhindsthx17:08
gagehugoI'm actually back now so \o/17:08
gagehugonovember was a wash for me17:08
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lhindsno worries gagehugo , I was out a bit a well (colds and otehr stuff going on)17:08
lhinds#topic bandit17:08
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gagehugoso17:09
gagehugohttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/bandit+status:open17:09
gagehugowould you be ok with abandoning those older patch sets without updates17:09
gagehugothey can always be reactivated if needed17:09
lhindsgagehugo: yep, sounds fine to me, but would be nice to resurrect them at a later point.17:10
gagehugoyeah17:10
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lhindsare you ok to abandon gagehugo ?17:11
gagehugoI'm fine with the ones that haven't been updated in ~1 year17:11
gagehugonot sure about that 3ders one17:12
lhindsmaybe we could use 1 year > as a metric for abandoning?17:12
gagehugo3des*17:12
gagehugoyeah17:12
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gagehugowe don't have the activity of the larger projects so this probably won't be a huge issue17:13
gagehugoor come up very often17:13
lhindsgagehugo: seems like the main contention on that patch is the flag put forward (hiGH)17:13
gagehugoI would keep it up then imo17:13
lhindsmaybe we could amend and put it as medium17:14
lhindsI put myself on and test the code, as its been awhile and we can refloat with a medium priority17:14
gagehugook17:15
lhindsonly other one (recent) we have open is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517888/17:15
gagehugoyeah I need to test that one again17:15
gagehugoI looked at it in sydney17:16
lhindscool, I will follow on from you then17:16
gagehugobut ran into issues that the author helped me with17:16
gagehugothat's all I got for bandit17:16
lhindsme too.17:16
lhindsone quick side channel comment: Will you be in Dublin / PTG?17:17
gagehugoI hope so, no idea yet though17:17
lhindsthinking if we should get a room.17:17
lhindswell not us personally :P17:17
lhindsthe security project17:17
gagehugohaha17:17
gagehugoyeah I won't know until January probably if I'm going17:17
lhindsno worries, I will put down `Maybe, Still Considering it`17:18
lhindsmight be worth doing it as 'Security SIG' and invite a lot of other projects17:18
gagehugosure17:19
lhindslet's do that17:19
lhindsping fungi17:19
lhinds#topic threat review17:19
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fungii've been sort of skimming17:19
* fungi has a meeting reminder for this, just tends to be multitasking quite often17:19
lhindsno worries, fungi did you per chance take a look at the keystone m-client threat analysis?17:20
* gagehugo does the same17:20
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystonemiddleware-ta Keystonemiddleware Threat Analysis17:20
lhindsyup17:21
gagehugonice17:22
fungiwhat's there seems like it should be fine to go into a ta repo review. i don't suppose we have one yet?17:22
lhindsfungi: yep, there is a patch..one sec.17:23
fungithere was a todo to open some lp bugs for a few items in the pad17:23
lhinds#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447139/17:23
fungiaha, right, i've even been commenting on that one i guess17:24
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lhindslhinds is lost17:25
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lhindsoh i see now, gerrit comment17:25
lhindsgagehugo: how does it look to you so far, ok?17:26
fungii've just rechecked it too so we can get a fresh draft build (hopefully, if the docs job for this is working correctly)17:26
gagehugoI think it looks alright, I'm not familiar with the process of it all17:26
gagehugonot sure what the next steps would be17:26
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fungiwas there information captured in the above etherpad which isn't yet added to the ta repo change?17:27
lhindsfungi: yep, so the idea is the pad is used to perform the review...we then co-author the patch above with the information we put forward from the threat review (as well as Launchpads / recommendations)17:28
gagehugolbragstad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystonemiddleware-ta17:28
gagehugoah17:29
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lhindsfungi: we port pad contents into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447139/6/doc/source/artifacts/keystonemiddleware/pike/review-findings.rst17:29
gagehugoI see there is the pycrypto stuff in the docs17:30
gagehugolhinds ah ok17:30
lhindsgagehugo: yep, that was the main one (which is good going)17:30
lhindsits a fairly simple application though, so not many attack vectors17:30
gagehugoyeah17:31
lhindsnot simple as in not good mind you.17:31
lhindssimple is good17:31
gagehugoit's easier for sure17:31
lhindsespecially in openstack :)17:31
gagehugoI will read over the etherpad more and I can update the gerrit doc in review if that works17:31
lhindsgagehugo: sure, that sounds great. I will get the LP up/17:31
lhindsI guess we are at time now.17:32
lhindslet's revisit this next week.17:32
gagehugosounds good17:32
lhindsin hte meantime I will let the foundation know we would like a security sig room at the PTG17:32
gagehugocool17:32
lhindsand we can invite keystoners, barbicanistas in.17:33
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lhindsok, thanks gagehugo & fungi17:33
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