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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 7 15:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello folks | 15:00 |
| zhongjun | hi | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| * bswartz looks around for more people | 15:01 | |
| bswartz | courtesy ping: toabctl xyang markstur vponomaryov cknight | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| tbarron | toabctl is on paternity leave | 15:01 |
| amito | hello o/ | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I know -- but he still gets a courtesy ping | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I just have a list of the core reviewer team | 15:02 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ack | 15:02 |
| bswartz | Today is the Queens-2 milestone | 15:02 |
| tbarron | dustin is having irc connect to freenode issues | 15:02 |
| bswartz | tbarron: :-( | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I plan to tag the releases this afternoon | 15:03 |
| tbarron | awesome | 15:03 |
| bswartz | unlike last milestone where I planned to tag them and then promptly forgot :-[ | 15:03 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:03 |
| toabctl | tbarron, I'm back :) | 15:04 |
| bswartz | toabctl: welcome back! | 15:04 |
| tbarron | toabctl: nice! | 15:04 |
| bswartz | toabctl: hope you're enjoying parenthood | 15:04 |
| toabctl | but I'll be away for another 3 month next year :) | 15:04 |
| toabctl | I did! | 15:04 |
| toabctl | thanks | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:04 |
| tbarron | toabctl: well, double congrats | 15:05 |
| bswartz | okay we have a few topics today | 15:05 |
| bswartz | #topic Rocky PTG | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky PTG (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:05 | |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-rocky-ptg | 15:05 |
| bswartz | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 15:05 |
| bswartz | Planning for this event is underway | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | We should have discussed this last week but it slipped my mind | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I have already told the foundation that Manila does plan to participate in the PTG in Dublin | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I'm open to hearing alternative opinions, but my own opinion is that not participating in the Queens PTG was a mistake | 15:07 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:07 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:08 |
| amito | o/ | 15:08 |
| bswartz | and enough of you who I've talked to agreed, so I went ahead and said yes | 15:08 |
| zhongjun | o/ | 15:08 |
| bswartz | but I wanted to discuss it now, in case anyone prefers the virtual format | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | because it's early enough that we could in theory change our plans | 15:08 |
| bswartz | in either case, time zone issues will make it hard for some people to attend | 15:09 |
| jungleboyj | Cinder team will be doing the PTG. Just FYI. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | Meeting in Dublin at least gives people the option to avoid that problem by traveling | 15:09 |
| bswartz | jungleboyj: +1 | 15:09 |
| bswartz | jungleboyj: do you happen to know which days cinder will be meeting yet? | 15:10 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: Requested the usual Wed-Fri | 15:10 |
| amito | do we have a preliminary schedule or know the days for manila? | 15:10 |
| jungleboyj | Though we might be able to get by with just 2 days. | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | jungleboyj: my preference would be for Manila to meet Tuesday+Friday | 15:11 |
| bswartz | In Denver, Friday was a pretty empty day in the Cinder room | 15:11 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: Yeah, that was what I was thinking. Sounds like a reasonable plan. | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure they'll give us a room on Tuesday, given how things went in Denver, but that's what I'm pushing for | 15:12 |
| bswartz | anyways, it's important that people who know they are coming add their name to the etherpad so we can get a count | 15:12 |
| tbarron | bswartz: do we know what cross-project meetings are scheduled for Tues yet? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | if you want to come, but you're unsure about travel budget, I'd like to know that | 15:13 |
| bswartz | tbarron: no idea | 15:13 |
| bswartz | tbarron: I'd rather conflict with crossproject stuff than cinder though | 15:13 |
| bswartz | and I presume the most important crossproject stuff will get covered on Monday | 15:13 |
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| * jungleboyj crosses fingers | 15:13 | |
| tbarron | Well, we'll probably do some running in and out of groups no matter what so Tues/Friday seems reasonable. | 15:14 |
| bswartz | okay moving on... | 15:14 |
| bswartz | #topic How should we fix "shares cannot be found by name in admin context" | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "How should we fix "shares cannot be found by name in admin context" (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:15 | |
| bswartz | zhongjun: this is your topic | 15:15 |
| zhongjun | bswartz: thanks | 15:15 |
| zhongjun | I just want to check if it is a right way to fix this bug | 15:15 |
| zhongjun | The share that created by non-admin cannot be found by share name in admin context | 15:16 |
| zhongjun | Because we cannot list all shares (belong to other non-admin project) by admin in manila client, (currently we doesn’t add {all_tenants: 1} parameter in list all share api ). so we cannot filter the share by share name. | 15:16 |
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| zhongjun | But if we add {all_tenants: 1} to common place that we will list all resources in client, there is another problem | 15:16 |
| zhongjun | We cannot create a share with share network name by non-admin. Because {all_tenants: 1} parameter only work for admin. So we cannot get the share network by share network name when we create a share with share network by non-admin. | 15:16 |
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| zhongjun | So, jiaopengjun try to change the share network policy from admin_api to default. Like the share type does | 15:17 |
| bswartz | okay I'm a bit confused | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | I know there are issues with using the CLI as admin | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | but I didn't think the admin had problems filtering by name | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | dustins: huzzah! | 15:18 |
| dustins | Yeah, something strange is going on with it, I still can't connect through Hexchat (using Webchat now) | 15:19 |
| tbarron | bswartz: dustin confirmed that bug that arnewiebalck reported | 15:19 |
| bswartz | so who knows what the underlying issue is | 15:19 |
| bswartz | ? | 15:19 |
| zhongjun | bswartz: the admin didn't have the problem filter by name with API, but it has problem filter by name with CLI | 15:19 |
| tbarron | admin couldn't find shares belonging to other tenants by name | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | Administrators aren't able to use share filters to get objects outside of their own project | 15:19 |
| bswartz | we don't try to ensure uniqueness of names do we? | 15:19 |
| tbarron | no, it's that we weren't using 'all-tenants' in the search | 15:20 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: that's an implementation choice we could easily change though, isn't it? | 15:20 |
| tbarron | which you really don't want to do for non-admins | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | is there a performance reason we don't allow this? | 15:20 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: I think it was just accidental, not deliberate. | 15:20 |
| zhongjun | bswartz: no, in client, we just list all shares, then filter by name in those shares | 15:20 |
| bswartz | --all-tenants can be cripplingly slow in a large cloud | 15:20 |
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| tbarron | cinder allows it and cinder performs very well, right jungleboyj? | 15:21 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) Yeah ... | 15:21 |
| bswartz | so our sqlalchemy layer isn't smart enough to do filtering on the DB side? | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: agree this is an implementation issue, it feels like the policy should be enforced on using "all_tenants" | 15:22 |
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| tbarron | I think the performance issue wasn't a motivator for us implementing what is really a bug. | 15:23 |
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| tbarron | We could address the perf issue separately after fixing the functionality | 15:23 |
| bswartz | as long as admins are allowed to view all the shares using --all-tenants, then they should be allowed to filter that way too -- my main concern is that we should try to implement filtering in an efficient way so that listing a few shares by name is not exactly as slow as listing all the shares | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | you don't need to check for context.is_admin and all_tenants, you only need to enforce policy on the usage of "all_tenants", that way, if all_tenants is specified, we'll not limit the search to the project | 15:23 |
| bswartz | yeah I agree | 15:24 |
| tbarron | we allow all-tenants for other admin context searches | 15:24 |
| bswartz | so here are the links | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1721787 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721787 in python-manilaclient "Shares cannot be found by name in admin context" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to jiaopengju (pj-jiao) | 15:24 |
| tbarron | maybe lots of them could have perf issues, so we should look at that too | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522607/ | 15:24 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522452/ | 15:24 |
| tbarron | I don't understand 522607 | 15:25 |
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| tbarron | why should *non* admin users use all_tenants: 1 ? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: can you explain why there are 2 patches here? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | should we just be looking at one of them? or both? | 15:26 |
| tbarron | 522452 appears to at least frame the issue correctly | 15:26 |
| zhongjun | one of the client patch | 15:26 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: do you believe both are needed? | 15:27 |
| zhongjun | one of the client patch -- just add the all_tenants in common place to list all resources | 15:27 |
| zhongjun | It could have a better way to solve it | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | yeah the client patch seems odds to me | 15:28 |
| tbarron | maybe 522607 just has a confusing commit msg | 15:28 |
| zhongjun | but he was follow the cinder method to fix it | 15:28 |
| bswartz | s/odds/odd/ | 15:28 |
| tbarron | issue is do we fix this client side or server side, right? | 15:29 |
| bswartz | well no matter what, the server has to allow the admin to do what is needed | 15:29 |
| zhongjun | just fix this client side is not enough now | 15:29 |
| bswartz | so far I'm not sure if the thing preventing correct behavior is server or client side | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | but I'm pretty foggy on how policies are enforced | 15:30 |
| bswartz | I don't know why there is a client-side policy at all | 15:30 |
| bswartz | err wait | 15:30 |
| bswartz | I got the changes mixed up | 15:30 |
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| tbarron | so if I read this correctly cinder has a hack: by policy it allows non-admin users to try to get resources with {all_tenants: 1} and then *in the code* it checks the context and if it's not admin just ignores that setting | 15:32 |
| tbarron | weird | 15:32 |
| bswartz | okay well we need to code review these 2 changes and make sure they're not doing anything that harms security or performance, but I think we agree in principle that we want to allow this, and it's okay if it's suboptimal performance as long as it doesn't make things worse | 15:32 |
| tbarron | I guess it was an early implementation of "policy in code" | 15:32 |
| tbarron | :) | 15:32 |
| bswartz | we better move on to the next agenda item | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | i don't agree with the bug | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | :( | 15:33 |
| zhongjun | tbarron: non-admin users just skip the all_tenants:1 , then list the all shares that belong to non-admin | 15:33 |
| bswartz | gah! | 15:33 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: what behavior do you expect? | 15:33 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: I was looking around that code the other day and wondered what was going on. | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | i think the behavior right now is correct | 15:33 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: please explain why in the bug! | 15:33 |
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| gouthamr | yes, will do | 15:33 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: why shouldn't admins be able to filter by name? | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | admins can filter by name, but they should use "all-tenants" explicitly | 15:34 |
| zhongjun | gouthamr: why cannot filter by name? | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | manila list --name~ test --all-tenants | 15:34 |
| bswartz | does that work correctly today? | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | yes, just tested | 15:34 |
| bswartz | oh | 15:34 |
| zhongjun | gouthamr: wow | 15:34 |
| tbarron | ok, so let's see what arne says back when you post that in the bug | 15:34 |
| tbarron | maybe he'll go raise a bug on cinder, he works in both projects | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | #action gouthamr respond on https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1721787 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721787 in python-manilaclient "Shares cannot be found by name in admin context" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to jiaopengju (pj-jiao) | 15:35 |
| tbarron | :D | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | is arnie just wants the client to implicitly send --all-tenants when he runs as admin? | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | s/is/so/ | 15:35 |
| tbarron | I don't know that he considered the possibility that gouthamr presents; let's see. | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | yeah... | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I don't like the idea of implicitly setting a flag with performance-crippling implications | 15:36 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:36 |
| bswartz | I'd prefer a way to maybe set an environment variable that always sets --all-tenants if the admin really wants that | 15:36 |
| tbarron | Maybe this was by design after all (contrary to my earlier remarks). | 15:37 |
| dustins | Agreed | 15:37 |
| zhongjun | +1 | 15:37 |
| bswartz | okay, thanks for reproducting the issue gouthamr | 15:37 |
| bswartz | #topic Outstanding driver work? | 15:37 |
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| zhongjun | thanks gouthamr | 15:37 |
| bswartz | tbarron: you're up | 15:37 |
| tbarron | infinidat driver is about ready to merge, Jun and Goutham will need to re-review | 15:37 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515432/ | 15:37 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510547/ | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | onit | 15:38 |
| tbarron | cephfs-nfs ha changes are ready to review again | 15:38 |
| tbarron | I had +2 and Jun had +1 | 15:38 |
| tbarron | rraja just submitted again with changes in light of | 15:38 |
| zhongjun | and leave a few questions :) | 15:38 |
| tbarron | Jun's remarks | 15:38 |
| tbarron | it needs to go through Jenkins. | 15:38 |
| tbarron | Would be good to merge these before M2 tag is cut. | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | another one that was being worked on is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465846/ - I don't know if the author intended to get this through in Queens | 15:39 |
| tbarron | Will make integration in distros, etc. a lot easier. | 15:39 |
| bswartz | tbarron: how likely is that? | 15:39 |
| tbarron | bswartz: if you don't tag till late afternoon and we can get reviewers it seems likely | 15:39 |
| bswartz | I don't intend to hold up the release for something late | 15:40 |
| tbarron | But we need eyes | 15:40 |
| bswartz | but if it's getting workflowed soon then it could make it anyways | 15:40 |
| tbarron | I don't think these are late, we just need reviewer cycles and those are scarce. | 15:40 |
| * bswartz is reviewing ensure share | 15:40 | |
| tbarron | That is, these have been up, passing CI, etc. for some time. | 15:41 |
| zhongjun | bswartz: thanks for reviewing ensure share :) | 15:41 |
| bswartz | when we set the driver deadline to be the week of milestone-2, the intention was not to merge them by milestone-2 | 15:41 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: infortrend review is not passing CI | 15:42 |
| bswartz | just to make sure they get in by milestone-3 without stealing last-minute review cycles | 15:42 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ack | 15:42 |
| tbarron | so let me put it this way: I'll do my best to get the infinidat one merged now because it is ready. | 15:42 |
| zhongjun | tbarron: infortrend never passed CI? | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | cool | 15:42 |
| tbarron | I think the cephfs one is ready too and would appreciate if reviewers could help it merge. | 15:43 |
| bswartz | and I haven't checked, but is it safe to assume that cephfs-nfs has working CI? | 15:43 |
| tbarron | zhongjun: I don't know about never. | 15:43 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: yes, and the CI is now exercising the new aspects. | 15:43 |
| bswartz | great | 15:43 |
| tbarron | bswartz: it's not a new driver, but it's an important change. | 15:43 |
| bswartz | #topic Tag M2? | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tag M2? (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:44 | |
| bswartz | tbarron: this is your topic too | 15:44 |
| tbarron | you already addressed it | 15:44 |
| bswartz | okay I didn't know if you had anything specific to discuss here | 15:44 |
| tbarron | I guess we should ask if there's anything else that should merge first. | 15:44 |
| bswartz | I'll aim to do this fairly late in the day | 15:44 |
| tbarron | I'd put your latest ipv6 fix in that category but it just merged. | 15:45 |
| tbarron | I'd like to get the policy-in-code stuff merged but honestly I think there are too many patches to do them all today. | 15:45 |
| zhongjun | We merged "share type with description" in manila project, but we didn't merged the client side, is it affect about M2? | 15:46 |
| tbarron | It looks good to me but I haven't reviewed them in detail. We should set a goal for that though for reviewers . | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | +1 need some more time to test/review policy-in-code | 15:46 |
| tbarron | M2 is a bit of an artificial deadline. | 15:46 |
| bswartz | yeah I won't be sad if something doesn't make the milestone | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I would prioritize bugfixes personally | 15:47 |
| bswartz | and aim for the content to all be in by Q-3 | 15:47 |
| bswartz | (that's queens-3 not quarter-3) | 15:47 |
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| tbarron | :) | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | Looking past M2 to (potentially) break 3rd party CIs with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512300/ | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | in any case I'll hold off on tags until later today, so you have at least 4-5 hours to workflow stuff | 15:48 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: how is that one going from your perspective? Did you have a chance to test it w/ Netapp? | 15:48 |
| bswartz | and I'll check that the gate pipeline is empty so as not to miss anything in flight | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: yes | 15:49 |
| * bswartz trying to save some time for dustins topic... | 15:49 | |
| gouthamr | tbarron: and i don't think we need to break the 3rd party CIs, they all need a one line change if using devstack-gate | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | that can work right now, even without that patch | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | #topic Let's go over new bugs | 15:49 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: ack, we'll talk to raissa bout sending out an email | 15:50 |
| bswartz | dustins: do you have anything for today? | 15:50 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:50 |
| dustins | bswartz: I've got a few bugs! | 15:50 |
| dustins | We can scream through them if we'd like | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: if not using devstack-gate, they'll need to clone the repo and install it in $DEST/manila-tempest-plugin prior to DevStack - the rest will just work fine | 15:51 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: you'll need to show me how to do that in my dev env | 15:51 |
| bswartz | I run the plugin from the manila repo still | 15:51 |
| bswartz | dustins: what's up first? | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: +1 a devref update is in order | 15:52 |
| dustins | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1736310 | 15:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1736310 in Manila "Invalid or unsupported share access level ro." [Undecided,New] - Assigned to junboli (junboli) | 15:53 |
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| zhongjun | Oh, I told to junboli, it isn't a bug | 15:54 |
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| zhongjun | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161176/ | 15:54 |
| dustins | Okay! I just marked it as "Invalid" then | 15:54 |
| dustins | thanks, zhongjun! | 15:54 |
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| dustins | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1733286 | 15:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733286 in Manila "snapshot share data Sync with the source share" [Undecided,New] | 15:55 |
| zhongjun | dustins: np | 15:55 |
| tbarron | dustins: maybe put that link in the bug | 15:55 |
| bswartz | wow this is a lot of info | 15:56 |
| tbarron | this is a weird one, I talked with him on irc | 15:56 |
| tbarron | and kept asking for more info b/c I couldn't believe what he was seeing | 15:56 |
| tbarron | apparently with generic driver and current share server image the exports are | 15:57 |
| bswartz | so manila snapshots are missing some data that was present at the time of the snapshot? | 15:57 |
| bswartz | is that the essence of this bug? | 15:57 |
| dustins | tbarron: Done, I added the link the bug | 15:57 |
| tbarron | on the share server it all looks correct | 15:57 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: I could easily imagine VFS caching resulting in this kind of problem | 15:57 |
| tbarron | on the client the share created from snapshot has content from the orignal share after | 15:58 |
| bswartz | IIRC the generic driver doesn't attempt to flush caches before taking snapshots | 15:58 |
| tbarron | the original share has its content changed | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | making changes to the source share affects shares created from a snapshot of the source share | 15:58 |
| bswartz | oh that's different | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | well step 1 is to reproduce the issue on master | 15:59 |
| tbarron | i.e. create original share; put 'hello world in it'; take snapshot; create share from snapshot; change origiinal share to 'bye bye cruel world'; look at share created from snapshot and see 'bye bye cruel world' | 15:59 |
| bswartz | if it still exists, then obviously we should figure out why and fix it | 15:59 |
| bswartz | I see there's no owner | 15:59 |
| tbarron | but if you look at the second share on the share server it is still 'hello world' | 15:59 |
| bswartz | normally I would jump on a bug like this, but I'm pretty busy with my other changes | 15:59 |
| bswartz | and we're out of time | 16:00 |
| bswartz | dustins: were there any other important bugs we need to discuss today? | 16:00 |
| bswartz | we could hop over the channel if so | 16:01 |
| dustins | A few short ones that have to do with automatically created docs bugs | 16:01 |
| bswartz | either way, we're done with this meeting | 16:01 |
| dustins | But we can take that to the channel :D | 16:01 |
| bswartz | thanks all! | 16:01 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 7 16:01:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-12-07-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-12-07-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-12-07-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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| * fungi can't remember if the security meeting is on for this week or whether anyone else was planning to be around | 17:01 | |
| gagehugo | o/ | 17:01 |
| gagehugo | I think it's still on | 17:01 |
| fungi | lhinds: were you around this week? | 17:03 |
| lhinds | hey all | 17:04 |
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| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 7 17:04:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:04 |
| gagehugo | \o | 17:04 |
| lhinds | was just trying to work out why weechat has screwed up. | 17:04 |
| lhinds | windows are all wrong | 17:04 |
| lhinds | ok.. | 17:04 |
| lhinds | #topic agena | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agena (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:04 | |
| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:05 |
| lhinds | so one topic I have is the PTG (feel free to add if you have anything) | 17:05 |
| lhinds | #topic PTG | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:05 | |
| lhinds | So my thinking is for this PTG, is have a room on hand to use under the Security SIG | 17:06 |
| lhinds | and send out an email to -dev and see if projects have any topics they want to bring to the SIG discussions. | 17:06 |
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| lhinds | I expect this will mean more topics on the table and a better audience around security | 17:06 |
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| lhinds | what do you think gagehugo , fungi ? | 17:07 |
| fungi | i'll be present, but as usual i'm spread really thin (infra, tc, foundation) and so likely won't have a lot of time to spend in the security room but am happy to pop in if anything vmt-related comes up | 17:07 |
| gagehugo | sounds good to me | 17:07 |
| lhinds | sounds good fungi , maybe some project mights be interested in becoming security managed. | 17:07 |
| fungi | i think it sounds like a good idea, whether i personally am in the room or not ;) | 17:07 |
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| lhinds | I omitted to mention, I will drop out an offical 'we are turning into SIG' email a couple of days before. | 17:08 |
| fungi | it's likely i'll be the only vmt member present again (not sure whether tristanC or kmalloc are planning to come yet) | 17:08 |
| lhinds | gagehugo: do you know if you're going yet? | 17:09 |
| gagehugo | nope, likely won't know until after the 1st of the year | 17:09 |
| lhinds | gagehugo: ack, I think its that way for a lot of folks. | 17:09 |
| lhinds | thinking if there might be some keystone topics | 17:09 |
| lhinds | that need cross-project collaobration / consensus etc. | 17:10 |
| gagehugo | maybe? I can ask in the keystone meeting | 17:10 |
| lhinds | thx, sounds good | 17:10 |
| lhinds | k | 17:10 |
| lhinds | #topic bandit | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bandit (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:10 | |
| lhinds | so we have a clean queue for patches now | 17:11 |
| lhinds | everything merged | 17:11 |
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| lhinds | I just verifed Pavlo's patch after your tests gagehugo | 17:11 |
| gagehugo | cool | 17:11 |
| lhinds | I still have not looked at the pycrypto issue I said I would adopt | 17:12 |
| lhinds | gagehugo: I can't recall what we decided, but we discussed abandoning old patches. | 17:12 |
| lhinds | did you get a chance to do anything there? | 17:12 |
| gagehugo | lhinds nah, I was just curious what you thought about the idea | 17:12 |
| gagehugo | we had discussed the same thing in keystone at the denver ptg | 17:13 |
| gagehugo | some ps just get left there for years | 17:13 |
| lhinds | We have less than 10 just now? | 17:13 |
| gagehugo | yeah | 17:13 |
| gagehugo | it's not that bad imo | 17:13 |
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| lhinds | I think we can let them sit for now, but let's do this.. | 17:14 |
| lhinds | do you stil have the abandoned URL query to hand that you posted last week? | 17:14 |
| lhinds | or rather old patches | 17:14 |
| gagehugo | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/bandit+status:abandoned | 17:15 |
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| lhinds | soz, I meant the one that showed over a year since upate | 17:15 |
| gagehugo | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/bandit+status:open | 17:15 |
| lhinds | that's it | 17:16 |
| gagehugo | I think there's a way to only show after a date, idk how | 17:16 |
| gagehugo | my gerrit url-fu is weak | 17:16 |
| lhinds | Let's put it on the etherpad, and we can then track going over those. | 17:16 |
| fungi | yeah, it's the "after" query parameter | 17:16 |
| lhinds | I will certainlty take a look at what can be salavged | 17:16 |
| lhinds | *salvaged | 17:17 |
| gagehugo | fungi ah ok | 17:17 |
| lhinds | ok, will skip OSSN as I have not had a chance to move on that the pass 2 weeks, have it on my table for next week before the xmas break. | 17:18 |
| lhinds | #topic threat-analysis | 17:18 |
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| lhinds | ok, i need to get my finger out here and so something. | 17:18 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-search.html#search-operators | 17:18 |
| lhinds | I have been slacking on this. | 17:19 |
| gagehugo | oh nice, thanks fungi | 17:19 |
| * gagehugo bookmarks that | 17:19 | |
| fungi | lhinds: yeah, i started looking over the draft rendering and the architecture page lgtm | 17:19 |
| fungi | #link http://logs.openstack.org/39/447139/6/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/0f6e2af/html/artifacts/keystonemiddleware/pike/architecture-page.html.gz | 17:19 |
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| fungi | obviously the findings still need to be integrated from the etherpad | 17:19 |
| lhinds | thx fungi , so I will start migrating the etherpad contents over | 17:20 |
| lhinds | then we just need to meet with keystone to discuss the findings. | 17:20 |
| gagehugo | ok | 17:20 |
| lhinds | gagehugo: do you think its viable to get a spot on the keystone meeting? | 17:20 |
| fungi | also noticing we don't really have any proper indexing for the analyses yet... nothing links to them from the top-level html at http://logs.openstack.org/39/447139/6/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/0f6e2af/html/ | 17:20 |
| fungi | #link http://logs.openstack.org/39/447139/6/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/0f6e2af/html/ | 17:21 |
| gagehugo | yes | 17:21 |
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| gagehugo | I can make a note to fix that | 17:21 |
| lhinds | thx gagehugo , we can either [A] go over it on IRC, or [B] do it at the PTG | 17:22 |
| gagehugo | sure | 17:22 |
| lhinds | ok, it think that wraps all up, last topic is xmas break | 17:22 |
| gagehugo | I'll be out the last week in dec | 17:23 |
| fungi | same for me | 17:23 |
| lhinds | Should we make the next meeting the last of the year, and reconvene on the 4th? | 17:23 |
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| fungi | wfm | 17:24 |
| gagehugo | I'm fine with that | 17:24 |
| lhinds | cool, I will add that to the pad. | 17:24 |
| lhinds | k, thx guys! | 17:24 |
| lhinds | unless you have anyting else...? | 17:24 |
| lhinds | *anything | 17:25 |
| gagehugo | I'll bring those two things up at the keystone meeting next week | 17:25 |
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| lhinds | thx gagehugo | 17:25 |
| fungi | thanks! | 17:25 |
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| lhinds | see you both next week | 17:26 |
| lhinds | #endmeeting | 17:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 7 17:26:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-12-07-17.04.html | 17:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-12-07-17.04.txt | 17:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-12-07-17.04.log.html | 17:26 |
| gagehugo | thanks | 17:26 |
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