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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| zhongjun | hi | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 21 15:01:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:01 |
| zhongjun | Hi | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello | 15:02 |
| bswartz | courtesy ping: tbarron gouthamr toabctl xyang markstur vponomaryov cknight | 15:02 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:02 |
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| ganso | bswartz: you should include vkmc in that list :P | 15:02 |
| bswartz | hmm we might be short of a quorum today | 15:02 |
| dustins | \o | 15:02 |
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| ganso | bswartz: and dustins | 15:03 |
| ganso | =) | 15:03 |
| bswartz | ganso: true -- I just constructed the courtesy ping list from the core reviewers | 15:03 |
| vkmc | :) | 15:03 |
| bswartz | But I could add anyone who wants to be on it | 15:03 |
| bswartz | Cinder actually has their courtesy ping list on the wiki | 15:03 |
| * gouthamr_ sneaks in | 15:04 | |
| ganso | bswartz: maybe we could do that as well | 15:04 |
| * bswartz marks gouthamr tardy | 15:04 | |
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| bswartz | okay well I don't have any announcements for this week | 15:04 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | and no specific agenda items | 15:05 |
| bswartz | however I am aware of the limited time until feature freeze, and the upcoming holidays | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 15:05 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (;-_-)ノ | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | perhaps we should go over the list of features remaining for queens | 15:05 |
| bswartz | ... | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I thought we had more specs merged for queens | 15:06 |
| bswartz | why do I only see 2? | 15:07 |
| zhongjun | We only merged 2 | 15:07 |
| bswartz | What about specs for community goals? | 15:07 |
| gouthamr_ | We didn't need specs for those | 15:08 |
| zhongjun | There isn’t a spec for community goals | 15:08 |
| bswartz | okay I thought we talked about it and agreed to have a stub spec that pointed to the community spec | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I could be misrememering though | 15:09 |
| bswartz | misremembering | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | Well let's discuss the major things left to be done | 15:10 |
| bswartz | #topic queens priorities | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "queens priorities (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:10 | |
| bswartz | The ensure share stuff looks good to me at this point | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | I wish we could have automated testing that covered the upgrade/reconfiguration case for this feature | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | how are we doing on the policy-in-code goal? | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | pretty well! nearly done. | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523819/ needs to merge for code-completion | 15:12 |
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| zhongjun | We only have two partches need to be merged | 15:12 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525115 is the last patch in the series | 15:12 |
| bswartz | and the tempest plugin? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512300/ | 15:13 |
| zhongjun | We tested it, it is work | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | LGTM | 15:13 |
| bswartz | Can we merge this today? | 15:13 |
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| gouthamr | +1 | 15:13 |
| bswartz | We could have merged it last week but we held off because some vendors wanted time to test | 15:13 |
| zhongjun | I think so | 15:14 |
| bswartz | I get that some CIs might blow up over the holidays, but holding off at this point is unlikely to help anyone | 15:14 |
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| vkmc | +1 | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | we need the devstack-plugin-glusterfs and devstack-plugin-ceph folks to merge predecessor changes | 15:15 |
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| gouthamr | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514374/ | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514381/ | 15:16 |
| bswartz | who can make that happen? | 15:16 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: i just did the ceph one 514381 | 15:16 |
| bswartz | any of you redhat guys have workflow power on those repos? | 15:16 |
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| gouthamr | tbarron has ze powers :) | 15:16 |
| tbarron | not on 514374 though | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | really? | 15:17 |
| tbarron | i'll see if I can chase people down | 15:17 |
| bswartz | who has the powers for that repo? | 15:17 |
| tbarron | bswartz: probably csaba | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | rraja too, but he may be asleep | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/565,members | 15:19 |
| bswartz | there's 4 people on the list | 15:19 |
| tbarron | bswartz: I think maybe only csaba and rraja are around | 15:20 |
| bswartz | tbarron, you think any of them are awake still? | 15:20 |
| tbarron | I just pinged csaba since he's in Hungary but he's not on irc right now | 15:20 |
| bswartz | we may want to clean up this group membership | 15:20 |
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| tbarron | Worst case I'll catch rraja tomorrow morning. Will ask that they add vkmc or me or something like that too. | 15:20 |
| bswartz | why do we depend at all on the glusterfs change? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | oh the CI is still running I see | 15:21 |
| chandankumar | tbarron: we need to fix manila rpm package also otherwise RDO and tripleo ci will break | 15:21 |
| vkmc | we have the ci | 15:21 |
| vkmc | yes | 15:21 |
| xyang | hi. I'm late | 15:21 |
| tbarron | chandankumar: ack, did you just post a review for this? | 15:21 |
| zhongjun | xyang: hi | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | hey xyang! :D | 15:21 |
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| chandankumar | tbarron: new package review is up https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/11032/ | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | thanks chandankumar and tbarron | 15:22 |
| tbarron | chandankumar: I read that specfile and it looks good to me; someone else has workflow powers there though. | 15:22 |
| bswartz | please let's get this one workflowed today so anyone who needs to fix their 3rd party CI can start to do so right when they return from holidays | 15:23 |
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| chandankumar | tbarron: it needs a proper review from RDO guys, i have pinged amoralej on #rdo | 15:23 |
| tbarron | chandankumar: ack | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | are there any other big things still in the pipe? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | IPv6-related changes? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Changes for replication? | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | yep a patch from ganso | 15:24 |
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| gouthamr | none for replication.. | 15:24 |
| tbarron | vkmc: you are here tomorrow - would you follow up with rraja and chandankumar if we don't get all this done today? | 15:24 |
| vkmc | tbarron, sure | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529142/ | 15:24 |
| chandankumar | tbarron: i will be around tomorrow | 15:24 |
| bswartz | I see an unmerged spec related to replication | 15:24 |
| tbarron | chandankumar: thanks | 15:24 |
| ganso | my changes will have to merge after the tempest plugin change | 15:24 |
| tbarron | vkmc: thanks | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: yes, we didn't plan on finishing that in queens | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | okay just checking | 15:25 |
| tbarron | On IPv6 we have put in some tripelo deployment patches, basically just to toggle neutron plugin options if IPv6 environment files are chosen for the deploy | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | need to rewrite that spec with changes to dual IP networking | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | tbarron | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I don't know if any of you were following the MASSIVE thread on openstack-dev about the rocky release | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: nice | 15:26 |
| bswartz | I'm now unclear on what will happen | 15:26 |
| tbarron | vendors who are enabling ipv6 in their backends may want to test with these | 15:26 |
| * tbarron looks at VNX and NetApp | 15:26 | |
| tbarron | we'll be doing the same where possible | 15:27 |
| bswartz | tbarron: is that expected to affect DHSS=true deployments only? | 15:27 |
| tbarron | I think Huawei has backend support for IPv6 as well and would want to test with their deployment tool of choice. | 15:27 |
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| zhongjun | tbarron: no now, but will be | 15:28 |
| tbarron | bswartz: well the options for those plugins were put in before you added DHSS=True support | 15:28 |
| tbarron | bswartz: I'd have to check exactly how they are used though. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | tbarron: well for DHSS=false, there really aren't any config options related to ipv6 | 15:29 |
| bswartz | it would be worth testing that IPv6 literals are not rejected by any of the config building tools | 15:29 |
| tbarron | bswartz: yeah, I guess the plugins don't get invoked | 15:30 |
| tbarron | bswartz: but the options were merged in pike while we were saying we had support only for DHSS=false, future-proofing I guess | 15:30 |
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| bswartz | Who on the NetApp side plans to look at the OSP changes? | 15:31 |
| tbarron | ganso has an interesting scenario test in review for IPv6 | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | I know there will be a certification effort at some point, but IIRC 12 hasn't happened yet, so 13 would be after that | 15:31 |
| ganso | tbarron: =) | 15:31 |
| tbarron | bswartz: to whom is your question addressed? | 15:32 |
| bswartz | To NetApp | 15:32 |
| tbarron | k | 15:32 |
| bswartz | I'm not aware of any plans to test unreleased OSP 13 bits, so we could have a problem | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | We could have a test coverage gap and we might need to sound the alarm on that | 15:33 |
| tbarron | bswartz: We may add support for IPv6 for CephNFS back end in which case we can test it end to end entirely ourselves but for now that's only DHSS=False | 15:33 |
| bswartz | From what I know, NetApp is testing the heck out of driver with upstream queens bits, but there's no plans to test anything from tripleo | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | until after osp 13 is released and the cert tests happen | 15:34 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ack, maybe just mention the issue. tripleo partners get pre-release bits. | 15:35 |
| tbarron | bswartz: we can talk about it early in the new year. | 15:35 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:35 |
| bswartz | anything else then for today? | 15:36 |
| bswartz | dustins: do you have bugs to cover? | 15:36 |
| dustins | bswartz: Yeah, just a few that we've gone over already that I wanted to check in on | 15:36 |
| dustins | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:36 |
| bswartz | #topic Let's go over new bugs | 15:36 |
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| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1717261 | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717261 in Manila "NetApp drivers don’t create share of requested size when creating from snapshot" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr) | 15:37 |
| dustins | gouthamr: How's this going? | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | this seems like a duplicate | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | let me find the other bug (that was fixed) and mark this one duplicate | 15:38 |
| dustins | Sounds good to me | 15:38 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1708491 | 15:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708491 in Manila "tempest api migration tests very long" [Undecided,New] | 15:39 |
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| dustins | Looks like this one we looked at and might not have decided what to do with it | 15:40 |
| ganso | we have discussed that one in the past and we never reach a conclusion about what to do with those tests | 15:40 |
| bswartz | ganso: do we know what the issue is? | 15:40 |
| bswartz | I feel like we should do something | 15:40 |
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| ganso | at first I thought it was the periodic task, but gouthamr confirmed that the periodic task is already running as fast as possible | 15:41 |
| bswartz | Either migrate less data (if it's a pure I/O bottleneck) or fix wherever the bottleneck is | 15:41 |
| ganso | bswartz: it is migrating an empty share | 15:41 |
| bswartz | okay so there's really no reason for it to be so slow | 15:41 |
| ganso | we could increase the waiters polling rate | 15:42 |
| ganso | this will increase the stress on the host | 15:42 |
| bswartz | I think it's worth fixing | 15:42 |
| bswartz | what's the polling rate now? | 15:42 |
| ganso | it might end up not gaining much time as other parallel tests will be impacted by this stress | 15:42 |
| ganso | bswartz: lemme check | 15:42 |
| ganso | bswartz: "time.sleep(tries ** 2)" | 15:43 |
| ganso | bswartz: that on the server side | 15:43 |
| bswartz | oh exponential backoff could be the culprit | 15:43 |
| ganso | bswartz: time.sleep(self.build_interval) on the tempest side | 15:44 |
| bswartz | exponential backoff with an exponent of 2 means that the test can easily take twice as long as it needs to | 15:44 |
| ganso | bswartz: build_interval defaults to 3 seconds | 15:45 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:45 |
| bswartz | well what we really need is for someone to volunteer to own the bug and to track down the problem | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | it won't help much to theorize about it here | 15:45 |
| dustins | But it sounds like it's at least triaged | 15:45 |
| ganso | bswartz: well we supposedly have a fairly good lead of what the problem is | 15:46 |
| bswartz | this is the kind of bug I'd like to work on myself after I wrap up the other scenario test work I have | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | dustins: any other? | 15:47 |
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| ganso | next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1713062 | 15:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1713062 in Manila "Missing ability to automatically build configuration reference artifacts" [High,Triaged] | 15:47 |
| bswartz | yeah this came from the PTG | 15:47 |
| dustins | ganso can copy and paste faster than me ;) | 15:47 |
| bswartz | the plan of record was to copy what cinder did related to this docs change | 15:48 |
| dustins | Right, so who wants to do it? | 15:49 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: ^^ is this done now on the cinder side? | 15:49 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: To do it automatically out of the driver? | 15:49 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: to have something invoked by tox that builds these tables from the code for each driver | 15:50 |
| bswartz | there is some code change so the doc building scripts can find the config options, but most of the change is in the docs themselves | 15:50 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: No, that isn't done yet. Kendall was working on that stuff and then dropped off the radar. | 15:50 |
| * tbarron blames kendall then :-) | 15:51 | |
| jungleboyj | I am hopefully going to have some people that can help out next year and start working on that kind of stuff. | 15:51 |
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| jungleboyj | We still have a lot of work to do on our config options. Making incremental progress. | 15:51 |
| tbarron | I've been busy with other stuff and haven't looked at it myself yet. | 15:51 |
| bswartz | well it's a docs improvement | 15:52 |
| tbarron | Would be good to get it done this cycle. | 15:52 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Actually, you know what you, probably shouldn't blame her. I think that one is my fault. | 15:52 |
| bswartz | there's a window of time after feature freeze to tackle docs issues | 15:52 |
| jungleboyj | I was doing the doc stuff and was supposed to look at that. | 15:52 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: I'm just joking anyways to be clear. | 15:52 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyway, long story short, not done. | 15:52 |
| jungleboyj | I have been off in stand alone Cinder land for the last few months. | 15:52 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1733494 | 15:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733494 in python-manilaclient "Failed to allow user group access to the share" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to kedy (kedy) | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | kedy is working this? | 15:53 |
| bswartz | I don't know who kedy is | 15:53 |
| dustins | Looks like it's in progress, just checking in on it | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | and abandoned by infra, nice :) | 15:54 |
| dustins | I put it up for the bug squish, IIRC | 15:54 |
| zhongjun | He is from h3c | 15:54 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | (restored now, no panic) | 15:54 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:54 |
| bswartz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1591357 | 15:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1591357 in Manila "generic driver cannot remove user rule for NFS share" [Medium,New] | 15:54 |
| bswartz | we shouldn't have user rules for NFS... | 15:55 |
| bswartz | Is this obsolete? | 15:55 |
| tbarron | ganso: ?? | 15:55 |
| bswartz | ganso: you filed this | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: we didn't modify the API to disallow user rules for nfs shares | 15:55 |
| ganso | we might need to retest | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | we didn't have the folks in the room that had user/ip access on NFS shares when we last discussed this | 15:56 |
| ganso | it could have been fixed with the access rules refactor we did back in ocata | 15:56 |
| bswartz | I think it's decided already | 15:56 |
| bswartz | no user-based access for NFS | 15:56 |
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| tbarron | wouldn't we do "user" for NFS using a sidecar security service, e.g. kerberos? | 15:57 |
| bswartz | we should just fix the API to enforce it | 15:57 |
| bswartz | tbarron: that's not how it works | 15:57 |
| bswartz | the manila access is based on IP only | 15:57 |
| tbarron | bswartz: I don't mean this kind of user access rule | 15:57 |
| bswartz | file-based access can be per-user, handled in-based through the NFS protocol | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | it's a different kind of thing though | 15:58 |
| tbarron | ack, really didn't mean to be suggesting otherwise | 15:58 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:59 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:59 |
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| tbarron | we were talking share access and I went on a tangent | 15:59 |
| bswartz | we managed to use up the whole hour | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | next week's meeting is cancelled | 15:59 |
| bswartz | I'll make a note on the wiki | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | we're planning to meet Jan 4 unless I send out an ML post saying otherwise | 16:00 |
| bswartz | enjoy your holidays everyone! | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | Happy Holidays! :) | 16:00 |
| xyang | Happy holidays! | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | and Happy New Year! | 16:00 |
| ganso | happy holidays! | 16:00 |
| tbarron | enjoy, all! | 16:00 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gate-issues (Meeting topic: trove)" | 16:01 | |
| dustins | Enjoy! | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 21 16:01:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-12-21-15.01.html | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-12-21-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-12-21-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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