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zhongjun | Hi | 15:01 |
gouthamr | o/ | 15:01 |
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gouthamr | bswartz: ? | 15:01 |
tbarron | Hi | 15:01 |
bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 4 15:01:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:02 |
bswartz | hey guys | 15:02 |
gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:02 |
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ganso | hello | 15:02 |
tbarron | hi | 15:02 |
zhongjun | Hi | 15:02 |
bswartz | Welcome back from holidays | 15:02 |
bswartz | Or happy holidays for those of you still celebrating | 15:02 |
bswartz | I don't have any announcements for today | 15:03 |
bswartz | but I did have a topic to discuss | 15:03 |
bswartz | #topic Generic driver attach problems | 15:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Generic driver attach problems (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
bswartz | tbarron: you asked me to take a look at some of the recurring failures in our generic driver tests | 15:04 |
bswartz | on a patch of mine that affects the generic driver | 15:04 |
bswartz | After looking at some job logs, I think there are issues with the nova/cinder attach detach | 15:04 |
bswartz | but I haven't found the smoking gun yet | 15:04 |
bswartz | jungleboyj: any chance you're arround? | 15:05 |
jungleboyj | What's up? | 15:05 |
bswartz | I haven't looked to see if the new cinder attach detach logic has been flipped on, but that's one possible source of our issues | 15:05 |
bswartz | jungleboyj: is the new attach logic enabled by default in cinder and/or nova yet? | 15:06 |
jungleboyj | bswartz: No. You have to request the new microversion to use it. | 15:06 |
xyang | hi | 15:07 |
jungleboyj | OS_VOLUME_API_VERSION=3.44 | 15:07 |
bswartz | Ok | 15:07 |
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bswartz | And I'm pretty sure we don't do that anywhere | 15:07 |
jungleboyj | bswartz: Yeah, you guys shouldn't be using that. | 15:08 |
bswartz | jungleboyj: is there any chance the old cinder v2 API has altered behavior from how it used to be? | 15:08 |
bswartz | in any case, I need to reproduce the failures and track down the cause in an isolated envirornment | 15:10 |
bswartz | because I suspect that the generic driver is broken now, and it's non-voting gate status means we haven't cared | 15:11 |
bswartz | If anyone else has been playing with the latest versions of the generic driver and has seen issues please let me know | 15:11 |
bswartz | okay that's all I had on this topic | 15:12 |
jungleboyj | bswartz: I don't think anything there should have changed. All the the code changes were going into api/v3 | 15:12 |
bswartz | is dustins around to talk about bugs? | 15:12 |
tbarron | he's on vacation till next week | 15:13 |
tbarron | tangentially related to the attach issues, caowei remarked on my HA spec in progress | 15:13 |
bswartz | doing something fun I hope! | 15:13 |
tbarron | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504987/ | 15:13 |
tbarron | that the nova attach of cinder volumes adds extra challenges | 15:13 |
tbarron | for using the approaches outlined there with the generic driver | 15:14 |
tbarron | fun? if you can call being in New Hampshire (or anywhere on the east coast for that matter) fun at the moment | 15:14 |
bswartz | yeah for a long time the nova-cinder attachment process has been a serious limitation on the generic driver | 15:14 |
bswartz | the most serious problem is the limit of 26 volumes per nova VM | 15:15 |
tbarron | thinking about how to un-attach volumes from a fenced off SVM gives me headaches | 15:15 |
bswartz | yeah there are those issues too | 15:16 |
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bswartz | right now though we seem to have a basic problem with out state machine management | 15:17 |
bswartz | manila is trying to detach volumes that cinder believes are always detached | 15:17 |
bswartz | it could be a race condition | 15:17 |
bswartz | s/always/already/ | 15:17 |
tbarron | Can we just 'try-to-detach || true' ? | 15:18 |
bswartz | Yeah I'm sure the fix will be more robust checking before/after the API call | 15:18 |
tbarron | Well, I guess we'd have to check the actual error from cinder ... | 15:18 |
bswartz | I just want to make sure I understand the sequence of events that got us into the bad state | 15:19 |
tbarron | ack | 15:19 |
bswartz | okay | 15:20 |
bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:20 |
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bswartz | We can table the bugs until next week | 15:20 |
bswartz | anything else to be discussed for today? | 15:20 |
tbarron | Just want to call awereness to lots of bug fixing activity whiile we were on vacation. | 15:21 |
gouthamr | :) yeah.. | 15:21 |
tbarron | By folks on other continents, so we need reviews. | 15:21 |
bswartz | oh yes, thanks to those fixing bugs | 15:21 |
tbarron | For example, junbo li has been quite busy | 15:21 |
bswartz | I'm behind on reviews | 15:21 |
tbarron | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:junbo85.li%2540gmail.com+status:open | 15:21 |
bswartz | but I want to spend time on reviews so send me a ping if you have anything waiting | 15:21 |
tbarron | I think all of us who came back to lots of email and piled up work are behind. | 15:22 |
zhongjun | yeah he did great job | 15:22 |
bswartz | the other thing I'll point out is that we're just 3 weeks from the Queens-3 milestone | 15:22 |
bswartz | feature proposal freeze is next monday | 15:23 |
tbarron | And Jun has been busy as usual :) | 15:23 |
zhongjun | :) | 15:23 |
bswartz | so it's time to wrap up any last features targeted for queens | 15:23 |
tbarron | So that deadline means blueprints need to be filed by then, right? | 15:24 |
tbarron | Or approved? | 15:24 |
bswartz | not blueprints -- the code itself | 15:24 |
ganso | tbarron: both, patches need to be somewhat complete passing jenkins | 15:24 |
tbarron | bswartz: ganso thanks for the clarification :) | 15:25 |
bswartz | the last 2 weeks before feature freeze should just be reviewing/getting things merged (and any criticial bugfixes) | 15:25 |
bswartz | then we move on to more testing/bugfixing and docs fixes until the release | 15:26 |
bswartz | I haven't been following the discussion on the fate of rocky | 15:26 |
* vkmc sneaks in late | 15:26 | |
bswartz | i.e. whether it will be a 6 month or 12 month cycle | 15:27 |
bswartz | I thought it was going to be 12, but then ttx said that was in doubt | 15:27 |
tbarron | sounds like it will be 6 month ... | 15:27 |
gouthamr | nothing's decided.. tl;dr: 12-month cycles aren't going to address the fundamental problem that the proposal was being made for | 15:27 |
ttx | bswartz: 5 months is the most likely at this point | 15:27 |
ttx | err | 15:27 |
bswartz | did an official announcement go out and I missed it? | 15:27 |
ttx | 6 months | 15:28 |
gouthamr | :D | 15:28 |
bswartz | ok | 15:28 |
ttx | review in progress : | 15:28 |
tbarron | ttx tries to raise blood pressure ... | 15:28 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528772/ | 15:28 |
bswartz | also I'll remind you that PTG is coming up at the end of Feb | 15:28 |
bswartz | Manila will be there | 15:28 |
ttx | I'll try to close the thread early next week. | 15:29 |
bswartz | so please make travel plans if you plan to attend | 15:29 |
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gouthamr | i was quoting cdent's TC report.. https://anticdent.org/tc-report-2017-in-review.html#release-cycle-length | 15:29 |
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bswartz | I don't have an etherpad yet, but later this month we'll get an agenda for the PTG started | 15:29 |
ganso | bswartz: don't we have an etherpad? | 15:30 |
ganso | bswartz: I remember seeing one | 15:30 |
bswartz | ganso: if we do, it was created by someone else | 15:30 |
ganso | bswartz: maybe I am confusing it with cinder's | 15:31 |
gouthamr | we did: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-rocky-ptg | 15:31 |
bswartz | Doh! | 15:31 |
bswartz | I did create this one | 15:31 |
bswartz | Back before the holidays | 15:31 |
ganso | bswartz: post-holidays amnesia | 15:32 |
* bswartz celebrated too much | 15:32 | |
bswartz | Okay well I think that's everything for today | 15:32 |
xyang | will the manila and cinder sessions overlap? | 15:32 |
bswartz | Thanks all! | 15:32 |
xyang | I mean ptg | 15:32 |
bswartz | xyang: Minimally | 15:33 |
xyang | I plan to attend remotely | 15:33 |
bswartz | xyang: we can setup a speaker phone of some kind for remote attendees | 15:33 |
xyang | great | 15:33 |
bswartz | What I've asked for is time on Tuesday+Friday | 15:33 |
bswartz | I need to check for confirmation that we'll get those times | 15:34 |
xyang | ok | 15:34 |
bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 4 15:34:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-01-04-15.01.html | 15:34 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-01-04-15.01.txt | 15:34 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-01-04-15.01.log.html | 15:34 |
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gagehugo | lhinds o/ | 17:02 |
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gagehugo | #endmeeting | 17:03 |
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fungi | looks like there's a stale channel topic. i can fix it before the #startmeeting | 17:09 |
fungi | just a sec | 17:09 |
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fungi | there we go | 17:09 |
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