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masahitohi all. time to blazar meeting.09:00
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 16 09:01:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:01
masahito#topic RollCall09:01
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priteauo/09:02
masahitotoday's agenda is09:02
bertyso/09:02
masahito1. PTG plannning09:02
masahito2. PTL election season09:02
masahito3. Next weekly meeting09:02
masahito4. AOB09:02
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masahitoanything else?09:02
masahitopriteau, bertys: Hi09:02
masahitohiro-kobayashi told me he can't join today's meeting.09:03
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masahito#topic PTG planning09:04
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masahitoThis could be bit early to start, but I created etherpad page for the Dublin PTG.09:05
masahitoIf you have something in your mind, please write down it.09:05
masahitohttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-ptg-rocky09:05
bertysthanks09:06
masahitoI'll write the current status for each BP once Q-3 or RC1 is released.09:07
priteauThank you masahito09:07
masahitoany comment?09:07
bertyspriteau: will you be able to join PTG in Dublin?09:08
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priteaubertys: I am not 100% sure yet but I think so, at least partially09:08
priteauMaybe I'll be only for part of the week though09:09
bertyspriteau: ok thanks, hope to see u there09:09
masahitopriteau, bertys: me too.09:10
priteauWe have meetings planned on Wednesday and Friday if I remember correctly?09:10
masahitoThe day wasn't discussed, was it?09:11
priteauI remember incorrectly09:11
priteauYou said:09:11
priteau09:11:32 <masahito> According to ptg web site, Wednesday to Friday are for single project meeting. So Blazar's meeting could be Wednesday and Thursday.09:11
priteauOn December 909:12
masahitoI think the meeting would be on Wednesday and Thursday. But official informs nothing.09:12
priteauWednesday and Thursday would be good for me to minimize trip duration09:12
bertys+109:12
masahitopriteau: right. I didn't mention Friday.09:13
priteauDo you know when there might be a final schedule?09:14
masahitoI plan to leave Dublin on Friday. It's good for me, too.09:14
masahitopriteau: I don't know. May I ask it of the stuff?09:15
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priteauI see there is a mailing list at https://www.openstack.org/ptg09:16
priteauI subscribed to receive updates09:16
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masahitoIt looks just an announcement ML.09:17
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persiaThe above traffic confuses me: is the Blazar project looking for an announcement by PTG coordinators about when Blazar would meet at PTG?09:19
masahitodiablo_rojo has reached me about team activities. I'll ask it later.09:20
persiashe is a good contact with whom to make arrangements.  My understanding is that if Blazar asks for space on certain days, it will be reserved.  If Blazar makes no request, nothing happens.  Good luck.09:20
masahitopersia: part of the comment is correct. Foundation stuff asked me how many slots we plan to use and will cordinate room assignments.09:21
masahitopersia: thanks.09:21
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masahitookay, let's move on to next.09:22
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masahito#topic PTL election09:22
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masahitoPTL election will be open in two weeks.09:23
masahitohttps://governance.openstack.org/election/09:23
masahitoPTL election for Rocky release.09:23
masahitoBlazar project/team is now an official project. We'll follow the election system.09:24
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masahitoIf you have an interest for the PTL, don't forget to check the details :-)09:24
masahitoThat's from my side for the topic.09:26
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masahitoany comment?09:27
priteaumasahito: Are you planning to run for PTL?09:27
masahitopriteau: If no one run I'm okay.09:28
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priteauOK09:30
masahitoIMO, same person shouldn't stay in PTL for lots of cycles.09:30
masahitoSo if anyone is okay to stay in the position I'm okay for R. But from perspective of  project diversity/good activities/etc, someone takes over the role at least T or later.09:33
masahitos/okay to stay/ okay for me to stay/09:34
priteauSounds sensible09:34
masahitookay, let's move on to next :-)09:35
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masahito#topic Next weekly meeting09:35
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masahitoAs we discussed before, we'll do review meeting in/after next weekly meeting.09:37
masahitoIt'll take 2 or 3 hours. Please keep your schedule for the meeting.09:38
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priteaumasahito: Please accept my apologies, there was a change in my schedule, I will not be able to attend the review meeting next week.09:39
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priteauI will try to do as much review as possible before09:41
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masahitopriteau: np, thanks for letting me know.09:41
masahitopriteau: next week is Q-3 milestone week. It's helpful for us to add comment both what the patch need to improve and what is lack for your +2.09:43
priteauOK09:44
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masahitoWe can check your +2 instead you :-)09:44
masahitopriteau: you won't join the weekly meeting, too?09:45
priteauI will join the meeting but will have to leave shortly after09:45
masahitogot it.09:46
masahito#topic AOB09:47
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masahitoanything else for discuss/share?09:47
priteauI saw Hiro submitted lots of Python 3 compatibility patches. Many thanks to him, as I didn't have much time to make progress on this bp09:49
masahitoright.09:50
masahitoHiro said if there're some comments for that please let me know it.09:50
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masahitoand please review it.09:51
masahitoFYI from our activities.09:51
masahitoWe did feasibility testing for deploying Blazar in NFV environment. So I submitted a talk about the testing for ONS.09:53
masahitohttps://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-networking-summit-north-america-2018/09:53
masahitoYou can see the abstract I submitted here. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/promise_cfp_ons09:54
masahitoThat's from my side.09:54
priteaunice!09:55
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masahitolast 5 mins09:56
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masahitookay, then let's finish today's meeting.09:57
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masahitoThanks all! Bye.09:58
masahito#endmeeting09:58
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"09:58
openstackMeeting ended Tue Jan 16 09:58:37 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:58
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-01-16-09.01.html09:58
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-01-16-09.01.txt09:58
bertysthanks! See u09:58
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-01-16-09.01.log.html09:58
priteauBye everyone09:58
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strigazi#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 16 16:00:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'16:00
strigazi#topic Roll Call16:00
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strigaziSpyros Trigazis16:00
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slunkadSayali Lunkad16:01
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oikikio/16:01
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strigaziThanks for joining the meeting slunkad oikiki16:02
strigazi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2018-01-16_1600_UTC16:03
strigaziagenda: ^^16:03
strigazi#topic Announcements16:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: containers)"16:03
strigaziNone16:03
strigazi#topic Review Action Items16:03
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strigazistrigazi to look for a new meeting time APAC friendly [incomplete]16:03
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strigaziI'll move it to the next week with 09:00 UTC winning16:04
strigazi#topic Blueprints/Bugs/Ideas16:04
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strigaziCluster Federation https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/magnum+branch:master+topic:bp/federation-api16:05
strigaziThis feature is in good state and the assignee will move with the implementation of the first driver. [kubernetes on fedora atomic]16:06
strigaziFeel free to review it16:06
strigaziNext:16:06
strigaziCluster healing spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529897/16:06
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strigaziI gave it a +1 for now, this feature has slight changes on the values returend by the API. Third party clients or application might be affetced. So have a look.16:07
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strigaziI will investigate what openstack provides provides for this kind of changes.16:08
strigaziNext: Cluster Upgrades: spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433728/16:09
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strigaziPlease give it a look, I picked it up again and plan to finish the implementation as it is now in the spec.16:09
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strigaziFinally from me, some patches standing to update the kubernetes driver with RBAC and fix compatibility between different k8s versions.16:10
strigazikubernetes patches: RBAC, config fixes, CI fix https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/magnum+branch:master+topic:bug/172648216:11
strigaziI would like to highlight here the CI patch which solves a know issue with gophercloud used by the kubernetes openstack cloud provider.16:11
strigazihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/496229/8/devstack/lib/magnum it enables redirection for the keystone API v3 --> identity/v316:12
strigaziThis problem has different silutions per deployment.16:12
strigaziThat is all from me, questions or other feature you want to discuss?16:13
strigazi#topic Open Discussion16:13
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strigaziI just saw your patch oikiki16:13
strigazislunkad: you updated as well16:14
oikikithe one right now strigazi?16:14
strigaziDo you need any help?16:14
strigazioikiki: yes16:14
oikikiwell it's my first pass at it, so if im totally off track...16:14
slunkadstrigazi: yeah was just a small update, not sure if that helps the ci to move forward yet16:14
strigaziHaven't review it just saw it is in16:14
strigazislunkad looks good, it should work now16:15
oikikistrigazi: im not finished or anything, but figured id push it16:15
oikikias a wip16:15
strigazioikiki good thinking xD16:16
slunkadstrigazi: yeah let's see if it works as much as it does locally16:16
oikikistrigazi did you look at my other patch #1?16:16
strigazioikiki yes looks good, I'm testing and I'll try to merge tmr16:17
oikikiok thank you strigazi16:17
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strigazioikiki: I'll take a look to your new patch as soon as we finish the meeting.16:18
oikikistrigazi: ok remember it's not done!16:18
strigazioikiki: slunkad Is there anything else you need to discuss?16:19
strigazioikiki: I will :) it's ok16:19
oikiki:)16:19
slunkadstrigazi: do we already have a schedule for the PTG?16:19
strigazislunkad good point, no16:20
strigazi#action strigazi to draft the PTG schedule16:20
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slunkadnothing else for me16:22
oikikinothing from me16:23
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strigazicool, let's end the meeting, until next time :)16:24
strigazibye16:24
strigazi#endmeeting16:24
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"16:24
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hogepodge#startmeeting refstack17:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 16 17:01:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hogepodge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'refstack'17:01
hogepodge#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-18-01-16 agenda17:01
hogepodgeHello everybody! Please add any additional items to the agenda. I'll give folks a few minutes to arrive.17:01
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mguineyo/17:03
toskyo/17:03
hogepodgeping luzC_17:04
hogepodgeok, small crew today, but let's get started17:04
hogepodge#topic upcoming meetings17:05
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hogepodgeI will be at our staff offsite next week, so won't be available. We can either run the meeting or cancel it.17:05
hogepodge(I would have mguiney host the meeting if we wanted to have it)17:06
hogepodgeWith the light load, I'm inclined for us to just cancel it.17:06
mguineyi may send out an email of pending patches/patches up for review, if we do17:07
hogepodgedoes anyone want to have the meeting next week?17:08
hogepodgetough crowd ;-)17:09
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mguineyi mean, i would, but as one of the people with patches up/incoming, i'm a bit biased17:09
hogepodgemguiney: sounds great to me. I'll have you run the meeting and if I can drop in I will.17:10
toskyyou can always ping people around on the channel; no strong opinion on my side17:10
* mguiney nods17:10
mguineyok17:10
hogepodge#topic PTG17:11
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hogepodge#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG Planninc Doc17:11
hogepodgeReminder of the upcoming PTG.17:12
hogepodgeWe'll be splitting time between InteropWG and RefStack, so drop your topics in.17:12
hogepodgeA few topics I'll want to cover will be dropping Python 2 support, and moving RefStack into more of a maintenance phase after some key features land.17:13
hogepodgeWe'll also have space to talk about python-tempestconf and how it relates to the refstack-client17:13
toskydropping Python 2 for all projects, or "just" the RefStack server?17:13
hogepodgeJust the RefStack server.17:14
toskyah, ok - because if it applies to the client too, we should accelerate the py3 support for tempestconf too17:14
toskyI mean, we should implement it anyway, but...17:14
hogepodgeIn the last patch we landed, we uncovered some code that wasn't py3 compatible, and I personally feel that supporting two code-bases on a server with a very small deployment footprint doesn't warrant trying to support two versions. I'd rather chase down all the python2'isms and make it py3 clean.17:15
toskyyes, for the server it definitely makes sense17:16
hogepodgeOn the user facing side, we have so many users that are on systems like CentOS 7 and OS X (where py27 is default) that I don't want to make life harder for them.17:16
hogepodgeBut, returning to the topic, please fill out the etherpad with your desired work items, and I'll start putting together a schedule (which we can adjust to account for conflicts with other project work)17:17
* mguiney nods17:18
hogepodge#topic PTL Elections17:19
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toskyuh, already that time17:19
hogepodgeIt's PTL election season. Anyone want to take leadership of the team?17:19
hogepodgeI'm happy to keep managing it, but my vision is to get us to a more stable place and put us into official maintenance mode (on the server side at least). If someone has grander ambitions this would be your chance to step in.17:20
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hogepodgepython-tempestconf would continue to be actively developed, because it's a young project and of broader interest to the community.17:21
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toskywell, the maintaince mode can always be revisited if new requirements/code/workload/TC decisions come17:21
* mguiney nods17:21
hogepodge:-)17:22
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hogepodgeWe still have features we need to develop, so it's not happening right now. But by mid year I'd like the server to just be chugging along and doing it's work17:23
mguineyi'd be glad to run, but am also still new enough that i dont want to step on the toes of someone more experienced17:23
hogepodgeThe additional responsibilities are mostly in organizing and running the meetings.17:24
* mguiney nods17:24
hogepodgeWe can chat about it later today :-)17:25
mguineyi can definitely do that then17:25
mguineycool17:25
hogepodge#topic current reviews17:25
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hogepodgeDisable Anonymous Upload17:25
mguineymerged, finally!17:26
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hogepodgePatch merged after one bit of testing (who would have guessed that u"False" evaluates to True?) Thanks mguiney for catching that.17:26
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hogepodgeWork items to finish off that task are here17:26
hogepodge#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-disable-anonymous-upload17:27
hogepodge(oh wait, that etherpad is empty... I thought we had a list of work items)17:27
hogepodgeI'll dig through our meeting history and paste them into that therpad.17:27
hogepodgeNeed to make the announcement that we're disabling uploads, make the switch on the server, then run mguiney's script for marking anonymous data that was used for validation.17:28
mguineywas probably in some similarly named pad17:28
hogepodgecopy-paste left us with a dangling reference.17:28
mguineyshould we make one more check that the current dataset is up to date, as well?17:29
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hogepodgemguiney: yes, new test results have come in.17:29
hogepodgeWe'll have to create a new dataset based once anonymous uploads have been disabled.17:30
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528831/ npm4 -> npm6 documentation17:30
hogepodgepvaneck has a patch to update documentation from npm4 -> npm617:31
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hogepodgebut he rightly states we need to switch the gate jobs over to npm6 to make sure the server actually works with it. So this is one of the work items we'll have to take17:31
hogepodge#action update gate jobs to use npm617:32
hogepodgeeither mguiney or I could take that17:32
hogepodgeWe can work it out this afternoon during our 1:117:33
mguineycan do!17:33
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530681/ Subunit Upload API17:34
hogepodgeMajor feature for RefStack. Hoping we'll be able to seriously turn our attentions on implementing this one.17:34
mguineythis is coming along, though i am currently working with a small issue with getting it to use the proper conf17:35
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mguineyas soon as i can get that resolved, i should have a new chunk of code to upload17:35
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hogepodgeok, we should check in with mtreinish to see if he has any ideas on how to smoothly integrate the tooling17:36
mguineycan do17:36
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hogepodgeRefStack API documentation is deferred until the higher priority work has merged.17:37
hogepodgeAnd with that I'm going to turn it over to tosky for python-tempestconfig work17:37
hogepodge#topic Python TempestConf17:37
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hogepodge#chair tosky17:37
openstackCurrent chairs: hogepodge tosky17:37
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toskyso, first a note about a review *not* in the list: packstack and devstack tests are now running for each change17:38
toskythe review was finally merged - with some extra kicking of zuul17:38
toskyand now, about the open reviews...17:38
tosky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528380/  Make tempest setup image verification aware17:39
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toskyuntouched since last week, I guess we need to ping the author again; there are some comment from arxcruz|off17:39
toskyI'm going fast with the list, we can go back to any of them in case of questions17:40
tosky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519714/ Add EC2-API support17:40
toskythe author removed +w, but there is a small final change requested17:41
toskyI think/hope that it will be merged soon17:41
toskynow two changes related to refactoring, I haven't checked them yet; the behavior should be unchanged, but they should make the evolution of the code easier17:41
tosky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533138/ Split main to smaller functions17:42
tosky(the title says it all)17:42
tosky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533434/ Split ClientManager17:42
toskymoves one class and related code to a different file17:42
toskyI suspect that we may want to release a version before going with refactoring, even if limited17:43
toskychandankumar, who could not attend today, agreed that we could have a release now, around Queens-317:43
toskyand the final review from the list, just landed, a small but useful optimization17:44
tosky#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533777/ Don't refetch same image over and over17:44
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toskyzuul timed out, but maybe it's related to the gates - let's see17:44
toskyand that's all from my side for today, unless there are questions17:44
hogepodgeYes, zuul is getting spectre/meltdown patches, and is being interrupted17:44
hogepodgejobs in progress need to be rechecked17:45
hogepodgelast updates landed this morning, so the gate should be stable going forward17:45
toskythere were different queue restarts in the last days17:45
toskyhopefully stable :)17:45
clarkbwe are also upgrading to a bigger server17:45
hogepodgeI just need to get my hands on the code to review17:46
hogepodgehi clarkb! :-)17:46
toskyyep, I used the shorter queue during Saturday to merge a review for tempest (and Martin Kopec did the same for the python-tempestconf review that added the test jobs :)17:47
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hogepodge#topic open discussion17:48
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hogepodgeAnything else anyone wanted to chat about?17:48
hogepodgeok, have a great Tuesday!17:51
hogepodge#endmeeting17:51
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jan 16 17:51:04 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:51
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mguineyhave a good week, y'all17:51
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