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zhongjunHi15:00
bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 18 15:00:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
amitoo/ hello15:00
tbarronhi15:00
zhongjunHi15:00
bswartzhello all15:00
gansohello15:00
bswartzHere in north carolina we're snowed in15:01
xyanghi15:01
bswartzFortunately I still have power and internet15:01
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dustins\o15:01
bswartzI didn't update teh agenda today, but I do want to spend this meeting talking about patches still trying to meet the feature freeze deadline15:02
bswartz#topic announcements15:02
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)"15:02
bswartzWe're just 1 week from feature freeze15:02
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bswartzTypically I aim to push the milestone tags on Monday or Tuesday of the feature freeze week15:03
vkmco/15:03
toabctlhi15:04
bswartzThat gives us about 2 days of buffer to deal with unforeseeable issues such as the upstream infra cloud going out to lunch, or our gate jobs having last minute issues15:04
bswartzSo please try to have everything workflowed on by Tuesday morning at the latest15:05
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bswartzOkay15:06
bswartz#topic Patches for milestone 315:06
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bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530326/15:06
bswartzlooks like this one is in the gate now15:06
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529142/15:08
bswartzganso: ^ is this going to make it by the milestone?15:08
gansobswartz: I believe that one is not bound to the FF deadline15:08
bswartzWell, that seems debatable15:08
gansobswartz: I am not sure, I am debugging connectivity issues15:08
bswartzIs it your intention to miss the deadline and to merge it as no-a-feature?15:09
gansobswartz: it is not a feature, it is a patch that improves testing in the gate15:09
bswartzI can see the argument both ways, but it's better to have a change like this in by the milestone15:09
gansobswartz: I am almost sure it will not be ready by Tuesday15:10
bswartzI haven't reviewed it yet, but I'll take a look15:10
gansobswartz: actually you did :P15:10
tbarronIsn't this a test coverage enabler rather than a user visible feature?15:10
bswartzganso: should it have workflow -1 or do you just expect more negative reviews?15:10
gansotbarron: yes15:10
gansobswartz: since it part of another patch, that part may be complete15:11
gansobswartz: I am still debugging the other part that I have to upload15:11
bswartztbarron: yes but the significant extra coverage added by this could affect QA efforts15:11
bswartzOkay I see15:11
gansobswartz: it kinda should15:11
tbarronganso: but it would still be good to get it early in case it destabilizes other tests, etc.15:11
tbarronbswartz: ack15:11
bswartzLet's move on then15:11
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531075/15:11
bswartzAnyone from dell/emc here?15:12
tbarronThey seem to be having CI issues, perhaps independent of the patch, but ....15:12
bswartzIndeed, but the patch is in merge conflict now15:12
bswartzI hope someone is paying attention to it15:13
tbarronIt's likely sleep time for the developer right now.15:13
tbarronxyang: ^^^^15:13
bswartzThe patch is in good shape (I reviewed it) and the CI just needs to pass15:13
tbarronwoops, not any more15:13
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xyangtbarron: don't ping me any more:)15:13
bswartz:-)15:13
tbarronxyang: old habit, we'll get you to rouse huawei folks from their sleep instead15:13
zhongjun:)15:14
xyangtbarron: zhongjun is usually here.  I don't have to worry:)15:14
tbarron:)15:14
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530002/15:14
bswartzzhongjun: you reviewed this one ^ is it almost ready or are there big problems with it?15:14
zhongjunYes15:15
zhongjunIt’s not a big problem15:15
bswartzYes it's almost ready?15:15
bswartzOkay good15:15
bswartzIt's a small patch, we just need a second reviewed on that one15:16
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531847/15:16
zhongjunBut I think it’s still need a few fix15:16
bswartzWe're missing gouthamr this morning15:16
bswartzBut I guess there's a few issues here15:17
amitomorning? :P15:17
tbarronlooks like his remarks are valid but fixing them shouldn't be a big deal15:17
bswartzganso, erlon: is this going to be sorted out soon?15:17
tbarronlike say this about manila rather than cinder :)15:17
bswartzamito: in the US it's morning -- on the west coast pretty early morning15:17
amitoyes I got that :)15:17
erlonbswartz: I wasnt expecting so many changes, but I can prioritize that15:18
bswartzthanks erlon15:18
tbarronerlon: I'll review it before the weekend if you address gouthamr's remarks by then15:19
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522685/15:20
bswartzThis is related to the other filter patch15:20
bswartzIf we could get a workflow on this, then it will go in as soon as the other filter patch is ready15:21
bswartzAm I missing any other patches?15:21
tbarronI'll take another look at 52268515:22
bswartzIt seems like we're actually in good shape to meet feature freeze15:22
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bswartzOkay let's move onto bugs15:23
bswartz#topic Let's Go Over New Bugs15:23
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bswartzdustins: I'm glad you will have power and internet out in the country15:23
dustinsbswartz: I didn't for a bit yesterday ;)15:23
bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad15:24
dustinsUp first is one we went over a bit ago15:24
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/172028315:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1720283 in Manila "use openflow to set security group, create port failed" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to haobing1 (haobing1)15:24
tbarronI suggested we talk about this one again b/c a fix has been proposed15:25
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tbarronAnd I'm hoping someone understands the problem and why this fix would be proposed.15:25
tbarronIt has +1s15:25
tbarronSo I may be missing something.15:25
bswartzHow hard is this to reproduce?15:25
gansotbarron: I agree it shouldn't be removing port security15:26
bswartzI don't have any experience with openflow -- does it work with the software-only ovs implementation?15:26
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tbarronLet's say hypothetically that openflow does its own port security so this is a reasonable thing to do if you are using openflow.15:27
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bswartzYes but where is the bug?15:27
tbarronDoesn't this fix remove port security for everyone else too?15:27
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bswartzDoes the generic driver do something sneaky that's not part of the standard neutron API?15:28
tbarronI don't think so.15:28
bswartzI'm wondering if the issue here is on the neutron side or on our side15:28
bswartzIt seems safe to assume that it's on our side, but I'm not sure where15:28
bswartzWe could be accidentally relying on some undocumented behavior of the specific neutron configuration that we use in our gate15:29
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tbarronWe really need better bug reports.15:29
bswartz+115:29
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bswartzBut a bad bug report is better than no bug report15:30
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bswartzSo I'll take what I can get15:30
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dustinsbswartz: ready for the next one?15:31
bswartzHold on I'm reading the fix15:31
dustinssure thing!15:31
bswartzIt seems like the proposed fix disables port security on the service instance's private port15:32
bswartzI'm okay with this -- the service instance's private port is a bit of a hack to begin with15:32
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bswartzSo it doesn't surprise me that it has problems with the security mechanism15:33
bswartzIt's not like we need any security here15:33
bswartzIt's the private connection between the m-shr service and the service instance15:33
bswartzI'm posting a review15:33
bswartzdustins: let's move on15:34
gansobswartz: the generic driver is a hack15:34
gansobswartz: :P15:34
bswartzganso: >_<15:34
dustinsbswartz: You got it, the rest of these are new bugs with a high "heat" score so let's get started15:34
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/169906015:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1699060 in OpenStack Heat "Impossible to define policy rule based on domain ID" [Wishlist,Triaged]15:34
bswartzIt seems a lot of projects have the same bug15:36
bswartzAnd it's not fixed elsewhere that I can see15:36
dustinsYeah, likely why these have high heat scores15:36
dustinsIndeed, just wanted to get some more "modern" discussion around it15:37
bswartzIt was opened in Pike and not fixed since then15:37
bswartzThere's a ML thread linked15:37
bswartzMy stance is that I'm happy to implement a fix that other projects agree to, but it shouldn't be a priority for us to addrses15:38
dustinsWant to update the bug to reflect that?15:38
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bswartzI marked it Opinion/Wishlist just like Nova did15:39
tbarronI see lbragstad in that bug, seems like the kind of cross-project initiative that he's good at driving15:39
tbarrons/in that bug/in that email thread/15:40
bswartzLet's move on15:40
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/162913315:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1629133 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "New neutron subnet pool support breaks multinode testing." [Undecided,In progress]15:40
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dustinsThis one's pretty old, but I wanted to bring it up to see if it's still an issue15:41
bswartzWell we don't have multinode testing in the gate15:41
bswartzWho is doing multinode testing?15:42
bswartzOh I see15:43
dustinsGood question15:43
tbarronnot with devstack15:43
bswartzThis was filed against a bunch of projects, but the bug was ultimately fixed in devstack itself15:43
bswartzSo the bug is obsolete15:43
tbarronI'm confused though, aren't the fixes here central?  in devstack & possibly also neutron15:43
tbarronrather than the various other components?15:43
bswartztbarron: that's how it was fixed15:43
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398012/15:43
bswartzI'll mark it fix released in manila15:44
dustinsSweet15:44
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/147930315:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1479303 in Manila "Module "manila.share.drivers.zfssa.restclient" is not covered with unit tests at all" [Low,New]15:45
dustinsLooks like this one is specific to the zfssa driver?15:46
bswartzBooo15:46
tbarrondustins: Do you have a zfssa (oracle zfs) driver maintainer current?15:46
dustinstbarron: I don't, no15:46
* dustins checks sheet15:46
bswartzTry Diem Tran <diem.tran@oracle.com>15:46
bswartzI don't have a IRC nick for him15:47
dustinsYeah, that's who I have, no IRC nick, driver's not in driver log15:47
bswartzThat driver was added a long time ago15:47
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* bswartz looks for running CI15:48
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bswartzNope15:48
bswartzLooks unmaintained15:48
bswartzIf oracle comes back with enhancements to the driver, we will have to make them fix their CI and address the unit test covrage issue15:49
bswartzAnd if they don't, then it's buyer beware for this driver15:50
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dustinsTotally15:50
bswartzAlright we're starting to run low on time15:51
bswartzHow many more?15:51
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dustinsbswartz: I've got three more, but if we don't get to them we can always do it next week15:52
bswartzPick the most important one15:52
bswartzThen we'll save a few moments for open discussion15:52
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/169984115:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1699841 in Manila "share-group-type-list don't display share-type" [Undecided,New]15:53
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dustinsThis one looks important and quick15:53
dustinsLooks like an enhancement15:53
bswartzIt's not clear if the API is also missing this information15:54
bswartzIf so, then yes it's an enhanvement15:54
bswartzIf it's just a client issue, then it's a bug15:54
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tbarronmaybe follow up to yogesh on his remark: 'resort to using API, no avail'15:55
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bswartzI'm looking at the code15:55
tbarroncheater15:55
bswartzI see a show method on the controller for ShareGroupTypesController15:56
bswartzThe problem may be down in the DB layer though15:56
bswartzSomeone just needs to setup a group type, and poke the API with curl to see what it says15:57
bswartzThis bug deserves a followup for sure though15:57
xyangshare type is actually in the code15:57
bswartzOkay in the last 2 minutes...15:57
bswartz#topic open discussion15:57
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bswartzAnyone have any last minute topics?15:58
xyanghttps://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/api/views/share_group_types.py#L2715:58
bswartzamito: I saw your question in the channel15:58
lbragstado/15:58
lbragstadi saw a ping about https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1699060 and i agree with the assessment15:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1699060 in OpenStack Heat "Impossible to define policy rule based on domain ID" [Wishlist,Triaged]15:58
bswartzManila's meetings are indeed split with a 2 day gap and we did that to avoid conflicts with cinder15:58
tbarronlbragstad: thanks15:58
bswartzlbragstad: tu15:59
bswartzty15:59
lbragstadjust wanted to plug that we'll be looking to have some cross project discussions related to those topics if anyone is interested in participating, we'd love the input!15:59
bswartzamito: I realize it causes problems for anyone who wanted to only attend only the manila portion of the PTG15:59
tbarronamito does cinder too I think15:59
xyangbswartz: Is it Tuesday and Friday?16:00
bswartzBut our working assumption is that most people interested in Manila are also interested in Cinder16:00
bswartzAnd we didn't want to meet on Monday, because the most important crossproject topics typically get covered on Monday16:00
bswartzSo it's Tuesday+Friday16:00
bswartzAnd we're out of time16:01
bswartzthanks all16:01
tbarronxyang: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307&single=true16:01
bswartz#endmeeting16:01
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xyangtbarron: thanks16:01
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-01-18-15.00.log.html16:01
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