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bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 25 15:00:32 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
amito | o/ hello | 15:00 |
bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
dustins | \o | 15:00 |
gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
ganso | hello | 15:00 |
zhongjun | Hi | 15:01 |
xyang | hi | 15:01 |
tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
bswartz | hey guys, sorry I'm dropping a -2 on some patches | 15:02 |
bswartz | Okay! | 15:03 |
tbarron | thud | 15:03 |
bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
bswartz | Today is the last day for features to merge | 15:03 |
jungleboyj | @! | 15:03 |
bswartz | I need to push tags today | 15:03 |
bswartz | jungleboyj: your bot is awol | 15:04 |
* jungleboyj is sad | 15:04 | |
bswartz | I don't think we have an other announcements | 15:04 |
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bswartz | Feature freeze is usually the biggest deadline | 15:05 |
bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:05 |
bswartz | #topic Feature Freeze / Queens milestone-3 | 15:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Feature Freeze / Queens milestone-3 (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:05 | |
bswartz | So we've been trying to get the last feature patches merged this week | 15:05 |
bswartz | There's been good progress, but this morning I still see some unmerged patches, so let's go through them | 15:06 |
bswartz | The filtering for the share type API won't make it, so I've already block those 2 patches | 15:06 |
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bswartz | We have this one waiting for a workflow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527134/ | 15:07 |
* tbarron is timing out connecting to gerrit atm | 15:08 | |
gouthamr | was testing that one, need xyang/tbarron to weigh in | 15:08 |
gouthamr | or zhongjun | 15:08 |
bswartz | gouthamr: found any issues worth discussing? | 15:08 |
gouthamr | nope | 15:08 |
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bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528667/ | 15:09 |
bswartz | ^ This one looks like it's suffering infra problems | 15:09 |
gouthamr | ouch, rechecking | 15:09 |
bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535701/ | 15:10 |
bswartz | ^ This is a 5 line change | 15:10 |
efried | No rechecking | 15:10 |
bswartz | Both of its dependencies are merged | 15:10 |
efried | Wait for next infra broadcast | 15:10 |
bswartz | efried: ? | 15:10 |
tbarron | bswartz: 535701 is ok, I was just waiting for the dependencies | 15:11 |
efried | NOTICE: We're currently experiencing issues with the logs.openstack.org server which will result in POST_FAILURE for jobs, please stand by and don't needlessly recheck jobs while we troubleshoot the problem. | 15:11 |
bswartz | efried: is the recheck machinery broken? | 15:11 |
* bswartz smh | 15:11 | |
gouthamr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535701/ is failing a bunch of third party CIs | 15:11 |
tbarron | thirdy party CIs are failing for another reason | 15:12 |
tbarron | third | 15:12 |
bswartz | ganso: can you speak to that? | 15:12 |
tbarron | including NetApp | 15:12 |
ganso | bswartz: erlon and I are diagnosing a CI failure due to library update | 15:13 |
gouthamr | looks like a broken package atleast for NTAP, python-pcre | 15:13 |
tbarron | python-pcre paacke issue | 15:13 |
ganso | bswartz: erlon says all CIs are failing | 15:13 |
tbarron | http://52.42.67.99/67/537867/1/check/dsvm-veritas-access-manila-driver/95ec234/logs/devstack-early.txt.gz#_2018-01-25_12_22_34_363 | 15:13 |
tbarron | ganso: all 3rd party | 15:13 |
* bswartz headdesk | 15:13 | |
tbarron | ganso: not infra | 15:13 |
tbarron | infra jobs are working, ubuntu and centos, but ubuntu 3rd party has the issue | 15:14 |
erlon_ | tbarron, yep infra not, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534854/ | 15:14 |
erlon_ | but 90% of the tird party | 15:14 |
bswartz | Okay, this is a perfect illustration of why it's better to get stuff merged on Monday or Tuesday, not Thursday | 15:14 |
erlon_ | not sure why | 15:14 |
bswartz | Library problems seem to happen every release | 15:14 |
bswartz | Is it something we can get sorted out this morning? | 15:14 |
bswartz | Or will we have to accept that third party CI is broken until after FF? | 15:15 |
tbarron | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537867/ is a DNM job that illustrates | 15:15 |
erlon_ | bswartz, not sure, couldnt get help from #infra as they are focusing on the logserver problem | 15:15 |
tbarron | infra jobs are all passing, third party are all failing | 15:15 |
ganso | tbarron: not really passing, they have POST_FAILURE issue now | 15:16 |
bswartz | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-pcre/0.6 | 15:16 |
bswartz | this? | 15:16 |
gouthamr | infra has mirrors, they'll be affected late :) | 15:16 |
erlon_ | ganso, they are going further at least :p | 15:16 |
tbarron | ganso: they passed in 537867 two hours ago, iow they don't have the package issue | 15:17 |
tbarron | gouthamr: ah, maybe just delayed | 15:17 |
bswartz | I don't understand what's changed | 15:18 |
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bswartz | That package hasn't been modified since 2015 according to pypi | 15:18 |
erlon_ | bswartz, Im not getting the problem as well, the bindep is already there, for long time: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=pcre&type= | 15:19 |
erlon_ | so, devstack or something else should know that it should be installed before trying to install the python lib | 15:19 |
bswartz | I'm confused | 15:20 |
tbarron | did we always have to compile it? | 15:20 |
bswartz | tbarron -- if you install from pip, I think the native parts get compiled as part of the install | 15:20 |
tbarron | looks like the dev pkg might be missing, the compile fails for lack of pcre.h | 15:20 |
erlon_ | tbarron, not sure, may be that was what is different now, now it needs to be compiled | 15:21 |
bswartz | If you install from apt/yum you get a distro-compile binary | 15:21 |
tbarron | bswartz: ack, understood | 15:21 |
bswartz | It's possible the pcre-dev package moved some files and the python package is now broken | 15:22 |
bswartz | So there may be a python-pcre 0.7.1 very soon | 15:22 |
erlon_ | bswartz, that will download the pcre lib only, the pip package still need to compile | 15:22 |
bswartz | I'm okay with ignoring the 3rd party CIs until that issue is sorted | 15:22 |
bswartz | It sounds like the upstream gate might be about to get less friendly for the same reasons, so we should hurry up and merge what we can | 15:23 |
bswartz | Okay are there any other patches I missed? | 15:24 |
bswartz | For Q-3? | 15:24 |
bswartz | If not, I'm going to watch for the last few things to get through the gate and push tags as soon as they make it | 15:24 |
tbarron | looking at devstack-early log in a successful third party CI run from a couple weeks ago I see no mention of python-pcre | 15:25 |
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bswartz | I know the netapp guys will dig into to try to fix the netapp CI at least | 15:27 |
bswartz | Please share any fixes you find on the channel | 15:27 |
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bswartz | And lmk if you want my help on that CI issue | 15:27 |
bswartz | Okay I think that's it for feature freeze | 15:28 |
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tpsilva | a quick workaround we found is to install libpcre3-dev on the nodes before stacking | 15:28 |
bswartz | tpsilva: ty | 15:28 |
bswartz | #topic Let's Go Over New Bugs | 15:29 |
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bswartz | Before we get into specific bugs, let me remind y'all that the focus between feature freeze and RC1 should be on finding and fixing bugs | 15:29 |
bswartz | There are some bugfix patches already waiting for reviews | 15:30 |
bswartz | I will be targeting bugs at the RC1 milestone in LP | 15:30 |
bswartz | Arguably, finding bug is as important as fixing the known bugs, so I encourage people to test out some of the new features and try to break them | 15:30 |
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bswartz | The RC1 target date for us is 2 weeks from now | 15:31 |
bswartz | As always, we'll cut the RC1 tag when the number of bugs drops to zero, whether that's early or late | 15:32 |
bswartz | But the closer we get to the target date, the more aggressively we'll untarget bugs -- our release manager don't like late RCs | 15:32 |
bswartz | :-) | 15:33 |
bswartz | dustins: do you have specific bugs for today? | 15:33 |
dustins | I do indeed | 15:33 |
dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1550258 | 15:33 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1550258 in Manila "Manila UI - Manage rule for CIFS share updates status from "error" to "active" for invalid users" [Low,New] | 15:33 |
bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:33 |
bswartz | Wow this is an old one | 15:34 |
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bswartz | Why did I target this to manila-ui? | 15:34 |
gouthamr | it's marked invalid on manila-ui | 15:34 |
bswartz | It must have been a click error | 15:34 |
bswartz | In any case, is it HP3par specific? | 15:35 |
tbarron | there was a ui screenshot in the bug report but then it was realized that it's not a ui bug | 15:35 |
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dustins | It looks like it manifested first in the UI but is caused by a Manila "core" thing | 15:35 |
dustins | But yeah, I think this may be specific to the 3PAR driver? | 15:36 |
tbarron | would it make sense to ask if the issue is still reproducible? | 15:36 |
bswartz | I'm not convinced there's any problem outside the 3par driver | 15:36 |
tbarron | or close saying re-open if it's still an issue | 15:36 |
tbarron | we don't have any active HP 3par folks here | 15:37 |
bswartz | The maintainer is Ravichandran Nudurumati <ravichandrann@hpe.com> | 15:37 |
bswartz | No known IRC nick for him | 15:37 |
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bswartz | It's up to HPE whether they want to fix this bug or not -- I don't see what we can do without access to their hardware | 15:38 |
dustins | Yeah, I was kinda hoping that we had an HPE representative to provide some feedback | 15:39 |
bswartz | next? | 15:39 |
tbarron | what was the disposition? | 15:39 |
tbarron | assign or close? | 15:40 |
tbarron | we need to clear the backlog, not just talk about the bugs. | 15:40 |
bswartz | I think we leave it unassigned, low importance | 15:40 |
bswartz | We can mark it traiged | 15:40 |
tbarron | -1 | 15:40 |
bswartz | triaged even | 15:40 |
tbarron | ok, I'm just looking for ways to make some progress | 15:41 |
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bswartz | I don't see how we can close it -- it's likely still an issue that users of the HPE driver should be aware of | 15:41 |
* tbarron adds tags | 15:41 | |
bswartz | Hopefully if someone users the driver and finds the bug, they can go bother HPE about getting it fixed | 15:42 |
tbarron | tags: drivers, hpe-3par | 15:42 |
xyang | +1 | 15:42 |
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xyang | we do tags in cinder | 15:42 |
dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1700501 | 15:43 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1700501 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Insecure rootwrap usage" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:43 |
dustins | This is the next one for us | 15:43 |
tbarron | note sdague: "this is too vague to be actiionable" | 15:44 |
tbarron | there's a proposed cross-project initiative for privsep | 15:44 |
bswartz | Wow | 15:45 |
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tbarron | we should talk at PTG about whether we should be migrating manila to privsep | 15:45 |
bswartz | Yeah rootwrap was always a pretty hacky approach to fixing security issues | 15:45 |
bswartz | tbarron: Can you add that to the ptg etherpad if its not there already? | 15:45 |
tbarron | bswartz: yes | 15:46 |
bswartz | I don't know the details of privsep | 15:46 |
tbarron | we should talk about what it is and whether / when we want to do it | 15:46 |
bswartz | It's important to note that the security issues addressed by rootwrap are for the most part theoretical issues | 15:46 |
tbarron | yeah, I'm not sayiing that we shouldn't fix specific rootwrap issues (like too broad commands specified, etc.) just | 15:47 |
tbarron | that this bug is open ended | 15:47 |
bswartz | Rootwrap exists to reduce the chances of an exploit in the API services from turning into a more general exploit of the machine the services run on | 15:47 |
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bswartz | Our first line of defense is the API services themselves, and while python is bad at many things, it's pretty good at preventing over-the-network exploits | 15:48 |
bswartz | I'm reading about privsep -- is anyone already familiar with it? | 15:50 |
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tbarron | kinda sorta, need to refresh | 15:50 |
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tbarron | jungleboyj: cinder has some experience attempting privsep migration, not all positive, right? | 15:51 |
bswartz | From what I see, it's unclear that privsep helps at all | 15:51 |
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* tbarron will try to see where other projects are on this | 15:51 | |
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jungleboyj | tbarron: It was complicated but we got there. | 15:52 |
jungleboyj | tbarron: Some of it was learning curve for people on how to use it. | 15:53 |
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dustins | jungleboyj: Are there good docs on how to transition to privsep? | 15:53 |
jungleboyj | dustins: Not sure. I think hemna did a lot of the work there. Could check with him. | 15:54 |
tbarron | one thing privsep does is encourage use of libraries rather than shell commands to achieve the needed | 15:54 |
bswartz | I'd like someone to explain how privsep is any better than a properly locked-down rootwrap config | 15:54 |
dustins | Not a bad idea, if it's something that other projects are doing we should leverage their experience and expertise | 15:54 |
bswartz | tbarron: I can see that working for some things | 15:54 |
bswartz | In particular stuff like the "chmod 777 /etc/shadow" exploit listed in the bug | 15:55 |
tbarron | right | 15:55 |
bswartz | But so much of what manila does is invoking binaries that will never have python-library equivalents | 15:55 |
bswartz | Then again, much of that is driver specific... | 15:56 |
tbarron | I've got an AI to see where other projects are on quota replacement before PTG, let me see what I can find out about privsep as well. | 15:56 |
bswartz | Perhaps we could modularize the rootwrap and only enable parts of it related to the specific drivers in use | 15:56 |
tbarron | Did it help? | 15:56 |
tbarron | etc. | 15:56 |
bswartz | okay | 15:56 |
bswartz | We're low on time | 15:57 |
bswartz | dustins: anything else? | 15:57 |
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tbarron | mention the default share type one quick | 15:57 |
dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1743472 | 15:57 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1743472 in Manila "Create a default share type for tempest tests" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc) | 15:57 |
vkmc | o/ | 15:57 |
dustins | vkmc: Take it away! | 15:57 |
vkmc | about to submit a fix for that, I'm running test locally | 15:57 |
vkmc | s/test/tempest tests/g | 15:57 |
bswartz | We discuss this one already didn't we? | 15:57 |
tbarron | bswartz: just noting that there's some action on that front ... | 15:58 |
bswartz | Or am I remembering a conversation in another venue? | 15:58 |
vkmc | plus, we need to add the dependency for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532713/... it's almost a duplicate | 15:58 |
dustins | bswartz: A related one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1743472 | 15:58 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1743472 in Manila "Create a default share type for tempest tests" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc) | 15:58 |
bswartz | Okay | 15:58 |
vkmc | bswartz, yeah, about two weeks ago | 15:58 |
bswartz | Okay let's make sure to get those patches reviewed before RC1 | 15:59 |
bswartz | Thanks vkmc | 15:59 |
vkmc | np | 15:59 |
bswartz | Feel free to ping me for a review when it's ready | 15:59 |
bswartz | That's all we have time for today | 15:59 |
* bswartz prays the last few patches merge soon | 15:59 | |
bswartz | Thanks all | 16:00 |
vkmc | will do, thx | 16:00 |
bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 25 16:00:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-01-25-15.00.html | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-01-25-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-01-25-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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jungleboyj | Thanks. | 16:02 |
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browne | o/ | 17:07 |
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gagehugo | browne o/ | 17:08 |
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