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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 8 15:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| amito | o/ | 15:00 |
| zhongjun | hi | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | courtesy ping: gouthamr toabctl xyang markstur vponomaryov cknight | 15:01 |
| markstur | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | I don't really expect gouthamr -- he just got married | 15:01 |
| xyang | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
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| bswartz | All hail our new PTL, tbarron! | 15:02 |
| markstur | gouthamr congrats! | 15:02 |
| * tbarron practices hiding | 15:02 | |
| bswartz | thank you for stepping up | 15:03 |
| bswartz | O dp | 15:03 |
| tpsilva | hey | 15:03 |
| xyang | Congrats! | 15:03 |
| markstur | tbarron congrats! | 15:03 |
| zhongjun | tbarron: congrats! | 15:03 |
| bswartz | I don't know when the official term starts/ends, but I'll make the transition as smooth as possible | 15:03 |
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| amito | tbarron: congrats | 15:03 |
| dustins | \o | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: you're welcome to lean on me until you learn the ropes | 15:03 |
| dustins | tbarron: congratulations :D | 15:03 |
| tbarron | ty all, will need help from all of you! | 15:03 |
| ganso | tbarron: congrats! | 15:04 |
| tbarron | bswartz: already started leaning, thanks. | 15:04 |
| bswartz | Does anyone know when the PTL elections take effect? Is it officially starting next week (when the voting ends)? | 15:04 |
| zhongjun | "The poll has been announced to end Feb 14, 2018 23:45 UTC." | 15:05 |
| tbarron | wouldn't it be the beginning of Rocky? | 15:05 |
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| ganso | wouldn't it be the PTG? | 15:06 |
| bswartz | You see, I don't know | 15:06 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:06 |
| tbarron | you never had to know | 15:06 |
| zhongjun | This is one of the PTL vote for other project | 15:06 |
| bswartz | In any case, I'll do whatever make tbarron the most comfortable | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I'm happy to organize and run the PTG, etc | 15:06 |
| tbarron | zhongjun: I think the end of the vote is earlier than the beginning of the term of service | 15:06 |
| tbarron | bswartz: let's do it together | 15:07 |
| bswartz | Okay | 15:07 |
| bswartz | There's another announcement for today | 15:07 |
| zhongjun | tbarron: maybe, I am not familiar with that | 15:07 |
| bswartz | This is the RC1 target date | 15:07 |
| bswartz | Unless there are any questions about the PTL-ship transition, we'll move to that topic next | 15:08 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 15:08 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (^o^)/ | 15:08 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Congratulations! | 15:09 |
| * bswartz marks jungleboyj tardy | 15:09 | |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: thx | 15:09 |
| jungleboyj | Better late than never. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | true | 15:09 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: tbarron Wouldn't do that to me. ;-) | 15:09 |
| bswartz | #topic RC1 | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1 (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:09 | |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/queens-rc1 | 15:09 |
| bswartz | The list of open bugs is now down to zero | 15:10 |
| markstur | yay | 15:10 |
| bswartz | There was some excitement yesterday when I merged what I thought was a low-risk bugfix, that turned out to break the generic driver | 15:10 |
| ganso | \o/ | 15:10 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531638/ | 15:10 |
| bswartz | and revert: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541927/ | 15:11 |
| bswartz | So https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1741425 still needs fixing, but it's been targeted out to Rocky | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741425 in Manila "Image with name 'manila-service-image' was not found or is not in 'active' state." [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to junboli (junboli) | 15:11 |
| tbarron | the original idea (use glanceclient instead of novaclient when working with images) is good, just needs more time on the fix | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I'm ready to tag the RC, but I decided to wait until after the meeting in case someone knows about another bug or bugfix that should go in | 15:12 |
| tbarron | we can backport it | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: yes but only after the final release | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | Anything that misses RC1 is automatically delayed for about 3 weeks, for stability's sake | 15:13 |
| tbarron | ack | 15:13 |
| bswartz | There's also a postgres breakage in progress, which appears to be not our fault | 15:14 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:14 |
| tbarron | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1747869 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1747869 in Glance "./stack.sh doesn't work with postgres" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Brian Rosmaita (brian-rosmaita) | 15:14 |
| bswartz | It appears that the glance team is aware of the issue and plans an RC2 to address it | 15:14 |
| bswartz | So I eagerly await that fix to unbreak all of our postgres jobs | 15:15 |
| bswartz | It seems we're clear to push a tag then | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 15:16 |
| bswartz | So there are 3 more weeks until the final release, which will happen _during_ the PTG once again | 15:17 |
| bswartz | Between now and then, our focus should be on cleaning up documentation, looking for any remaining bugs, and of course planning for Rocky | 15:17 |
| bswartz | Now is a great time to start writing specs and making prototypes for new features | 15:17 |
| bswartz | Especially for anything that we might want to discuss at PTG | 15:18 |
| bswartz | Speaking of PTG... | 15:19 |
| bswartz | #topic PTG | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:19 | |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-rocky-ptg | 15:19 |
| bswartz | We've got some topic proposals already, but we could use some more\ | 15:20 |
| tbarron | zhongjun will be there! | 15:20 |
| tbarron | and amito and ganso | 15:20 |
| zhongjun | tbarron: yes, looking forward to see you | 15:20 |
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| amito | :) | 15:20 |
| ganso | yes =D | 15:20 |
| bswartz | I think we should plan to have a team get-together, like a dinner | 15:21 |
| zhongjun | +10000 | 15:21 |
| amito | indeed | 15:21 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: what night is cinder's ? | 15:21 |
| amito | thursday | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | We were planning to do Thursday. | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | There was no dissent in our meeting at the suggestion. | 15:21 |
| bswartz | We had one in Atlanta, and since we sat out the Queens PTG we had to settle for a local get-together here in Raleigh | 15:22 |
| jungleboyj | Would be nice to do a different night as many of us are cross project. | 15:22 |
| amito | maybe Tuesday, after the meeting? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | We should avoid conflict with the Cinder dinner of course, but I don't know what the schedule is for official community evening events | 15:22 |
| amito | I guess there are some activities organized by the foundation? | 15:23 |
| amito | ... or by the sponsors | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Tuesday would make sense, as long as there's nothing else conflicting | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | We don't need to decide today, we still have 2.5 weeks | 15:23 |
| bswartz | But the sooner we can reserve a night the better | 15:24 |
| bswartz | I can look into when the official events will happen | 15:24 |
| bswartz | I think it's best to avoid Friday in case anyone plans to leave immediately after the meeting | 15:24 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Do you know if there are official Foundation sponsored events at the PTG? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | So the realistic options are Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday | 15:25 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: Usually they are on Tuesday night but then there is a break for teams to go get dinner and then more stuff later in the night if anything else is going on. | 15:25 |
| bswartz | Yeah my recollection is that the foundation events are usually snacks and/or drinks, not meals | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: And then if they do a karaoke night or something it is later in the evening. | 15:26 |
| bswartz | Yeah | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | Will also depend on how much extra money they have with the venue. :-) | 15:26 |
| bswartz | Okay that's all I had for today | 15:27 |
| * tbarron wants to see jungleboyj and bswartz do a karaoke duet | 15:27 | |
| bswartz | dustins: did you want to spend time on bugs? | 15:27 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: there are plans, but I need to ask what and when | 15:27 |
| dustins | bswartz: We can if y'all want! | 15:28 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Ok, just wondering as Manila and Cinder try to plan team Dinners. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | dustins: anything that needs attention for queens, or can it wait until rocky? | 15:28 |
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| dustins | But if we've got other topics, I don't mind holding off, nothing was screaming out to me as "Holy crap, broken!" | 15:28 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: will ping you when I know more | 15:28 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Thank you. | 15:28 |
| bswartz | dustins: no more topics, but I'm okay to end the meeting early and give everyone 30 minutes back | 15:29 |
| dustins | bswartz: I think we're clear to wait until Rocky, unless someone else thinks otherwise | 15:29 |
| bswartz | okay cool | 15:29 |
| zhongjun | Could we start to discuss the new feature or waiting for next PTG | 15:29 |
| bswartz | In that case I think we'll wrap up early, and I'll push the tag | 15:29 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: let's save those | 15:29 |
| bswartz | I'd rather use these meetings to make sure Queens wraps up smoothly | 15:30 |
| zhongjun | sure | 15:30 |
| bswartz | We should keep an eye on that glance/postgres issue and make sure our tests go back to passing cleanly | 15:30 |
| bswartz | after they fix it | 15:30 |
| zhongjun | Okay | 15:30 |
| bswartz | Okay thanks everyone | 15:30 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 8 15:31:06 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-02-08-15.00.html | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-02-08-15.00.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-02-08-15.00.log.html | 15:31 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:31 |
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| lhinds | hi gagehugo , are you around? | 16:59 |
| browne | o/ | 16:59 |
| lhinds | hi browne | 16:59 |
| browne | hi | 16:59 |
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| lhinds | quite a few new bandit patches, not had a chance to review them yet | 16:59 |
| lhinds | we can do a quick round up during the meeting | 17:00 |
| fungi | ohai | 17:00 |
| browne | yeah, getting new contributors which is always nice | 17:00 |
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| lhinds | hey fungi | 17:00 |
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| gagehugo | o/ | 17:01 |
| lhinds | hey gagehugo | 17:01 |
| gagehugo | hi | 17:01 |
| lhinds | browne: are you at the PTG? | 17:01 |
| jessegler | o/ | 17:01 |
| lhinds | hey jessegler | 17:01 |
| fungi | quite the turn-out for a change | 17:02 |
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| browne | lhinds: nope, not at PTG. I work on non-openstack open sourcy things now | 17:02 |
| lhinds | fungi: yep :) | 17:02 |
| lhinds | no worries browne , was going to do a scrum / bug wash on bandit, we can update you during / after etc | 17:02 |
| lhinds | ok.. | 17:03 |
| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 8 17:03:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:03 |
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| lhinds | agenda: | 17:03 |
| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:03 |
| lhinds | please do add if you have something and we will see if we can fit it in. | 17:03 |
| lhinds | #topic PTG planning | 17:03 |
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| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-ptg-rocky | 17:04 |
| lhinds | we have some new additions. | 17:04 |
| lhinds | a project called tatu that I have no had a chance to read up on yet. | 17:04 |
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| lhinds | " OpenStack SSH (Certificate management and bastion hosts) as a Service" | 17:04 |
| lhinds | other news, we have a room set for Monday | 17:05 |
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| gagehugo | hmm | 17:05 |
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| lhinds | I expect we can get most done in a full day | 17:05 |
| lhinds | gagehugo: would you be able to check if keystoners can make it in for the Policy Security Roadmap discussion? | 17:06 |
| gagehugo | yeah, where is the schedule at? | 17:06 |
| gagehugo | oh it's on the site now | 17:07 |
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| fungi | maybe kmalloc can weigh in there | 17:07 |
| gagehugo | we should figure out a time then | 17:07 |
| lhinds | fungi: yup, kmalloc would be a great help in that discssion | 17:07 |
| gagehugo | definitely | 17:07 |
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| lhinds | gagehugo: have keystone got a room on Monday? I think the first two days are x project stuff? | 17:08 |
| lhinds | just thinking if I need to schedule around keystone activities? | 17:08 |
| lhinds | #action lhinds set agenda | 17:09 |
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| gagehugo | lhinds I think we're doing policy/scope stuff mon/tue | 17:09 |
| lhinds | so you plan to cover this in the keystone room? | 17:09 |
| gagehugo | most likely, but that won't be until wed-fri | 17:10 |
| gagehugo | would like to pull people in on Monday | 17:10 |
| gagehugo | lbragstad | 17:10 |
| gagehugo | ^ | 17:10 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 17:11 |
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| gagehugo | lbragstad can we setup a time monday to meet with security for the vmt keystonemiddleware coverage? | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | are we going to go over RBAC security stuff with the security team/ | 17:11 |
| gagehugo | that too | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | oh - sure | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | let me grab the schedule | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | this is what we have open for wednesday - friday | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-rocky-ptg | 17:12 |
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| lbragstad | this is what we have for availability on monday and tuesday | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/baremetal-vm-rocky-ptg | 17:12 |
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| lbragstad | since keystone is going to be involved in a bunch of cross-project discussions those days | 17:12 |
| gagehugo | so sometime between 1330-17 | 17:13 |
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| gagehugo | for monday anyway | 17:13 |
| lhinds | thx lbragstad | 17:13 |
| lbragstad | yep | 17:13 |
| lbragstad | monday afternoon is pretty open at this point | 17:13 |
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| lbragstad | we also have several open times wednesday - friday for the VMT stuff, since that's probably more project specific | 17:13 |
| lhinds | friday would be good | 17:13 |
| fungi | whatever time you pick for the vmt coverage discussion, i'll try to prioritize that in my schedule | 17:14 |
| lhinds | as we only have a room on Monday (and need a little of the afternoon for some other topics) | 17:14 |
| gagehugo | sure | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | awesome - friday we're setting time aside to do peer-reviews and peer-programming (hopefully) | 17:14 |
| fungi | though hopefully kmalloc can be in on the ksm vmt discussion even if i have a conflict | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | so we should have plenty of time to dig into the vmt stuff then | 17:14 |
| lhinds | lbragstad / gagehugo for the threat review do you want to come over the security room? | 17:15 |
| lbragstad | sure | 17:15 |
| lbragstad | i'm fine with that | 17:15 |
| gagehugo | same | 17:15 |
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| lhinds | ok cool, I will set our agenda to have the keystone threat analysis discussion at 13:30? | 17:16 |
| lhinds | s/keystone/keystonemiddleware | 17:16 |
| lhinds | Done: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-ptg-rocky | 17:17 |
| lhinds | I will set the others over the next few days | 17:17 |
| gagehugo | cool | 17:17 |
| lhinds | so that's the main things for the PTG | 17:18 |
| lhinds | anyone have anything to add? | 17:18 |
| lhinds | fungi: any VMT x-discussions you want to have? | 17:18 |
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| lhinds | perhaps how things will work when we become a SIG? | 17:18 |
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| fungi | maybe... it's as much a tc discussion as anything i think | 17:19 |
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| lhinds | fungi: true, should we put it to a TC discussion? | 17:20 |
| fungi | i'm in favor of doing the sig transition first and then the vmt can put together whatever tc resolution we need to just have a delegation process or something for vmt efforts | 17:20 |
| fungi | i'd rather not unnecessarily complicate the security sig formation | 17:20 |
| fungi | the vmt isn't going to stop doing what it does regardless of the resulting formality of its charter | 17:21 |
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| lhinds | ack, makes sense. we have some discussions around the SIG during the PTG too, so what comes out of there. | 17:21 |
| fungi | and the vmt members are still likely to be participants in the sig | 17:21 |
| lhinds | good to hear :0 | 17:21 |
| fungi | (not speaking for anyone else, but i intend to anyway) | 17:21 |
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| lhinds | ok, moving on to Bandit | 17:22 |
| lhinds | #topic Bandit | 17:22 |
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| lhinds | new contributor! | 17:22 |
| fungi | excellent news | 17:22 |
| lhinds | a few patches in which is nice. | 17:22 |
| browne | yay! | 17:22 |
| lhinds | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/bandit | 17:22 |
| lhinds | nice to see some django stuff | 17:23 |
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| lhinds | I think he needs some help with the developer flow around gerrit | 17:23 |
| lhinds | I will drop him an email. shall I include you gagehugo ? | 17:24 |
| lhinds | / browne | 17:24 |
| browne | yeah, so I wanted to pitch possibly moving Bandit to the Python Code Quality Authority on GitHub | 17:25 |
| lhinds | do you have a link browne ? | 17:25 |
| browne | Bandit really has only one plugin that is specific to OpenStack | 17:25 |
| browne | yeah, let me find it | 17:26 |
| lhinds | https://github.com/PyCQA ? | 17:26 |
| lhinds | browne: ^ | 17:26 |
| browne | ha, yep | 17:26 |
| browne | so that's the home of pylint, flake8 and many other linters | 17:26 |
| lhinds | browne: have you already disscussed this with PyCQA? were they receptive to the idea? | 17:26 |
| browne | so makes sense to put bandit there also. but i need to ask them if they are ok with it | 17:27 |
| browne | i know signmavirus liked the idea a while back | 17:27 |
| lhinds | so I personally have no objection to that myself | 17:27 |
| gagehugo | sure | 17:27 |
| lhinds | especially if it helps the project gain more contributions / testers and users (which I think it will) | 17:27 |
| browne | cool. yes, i do think it'll allow it to gain contributions | 17:28 |
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| fungi | in the spirit of embracing the wider python ecosystem and making it clear this tool is of general interest, i think it's a great idea | 17:28 |
| lhinds | browne: would perhaps me and gagehugo be able to get some sort of merge oversight (perhaps join the org)? | 17:28 |
| browne | alright, i'll talk with pycqa folks and see if they are ok with it | 17:28 |
| lhinds | I guess you would need to ask that first | 17:28 |
| browne | yeah, i think we could maintain the same core (maintainers) in github | 17:29 |
| gagehugo | yeah I'm fine with that | 17:29 |
| lhinds | that way we can be there as key stakeholders to ensure nothing breaks anyhing for openstack | 17:29 |
| browne | other question, is there someone in the openstack side to ask about removing a project from that domain | 17:29 |
| lhinds | please enlarge on removing a project? | 17:30 |
| lhinds | do you mean from a config somewhere? | 17:30 |
| browne | yeah, config, gerrit, etc | 17:31 |
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| browne | not sure how that's generally handled | 17:31 |
| fungi | if you're concerned about changes to bandit after moving to github breaking openstack use cases, the infra team is now piloting jobs in our ci system reporting on pull requests for projects developed in github | 17:31 |
| lhinds | we will need to some due-diligence there. | 17:31 |
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| lhinds | lets see what they say (PyCQA) and we can take it from there. | 17:32 |
| browne | ok sounds good | 17:32 |
| lhinds | a lot of the planning side of the migration could be fleshed out at the PTG | 17:32 |
| fungi | right now our zuul is running shade integration tests incorporating pull requests from ansible/ansible on github and reporting back results on them | 17:32 |
| gagehugo | hmm | 17:32 |
| fungi | acting as a third-party ci system basically | 17:32 |
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| lhinds | fungi: that would be good. we could then run Bandit against some key projects and insure it passes | 17:33 |
| lhinds | right, we are out of time folks. | 17:33 |
| fungi | yeah, or, you know, whatever | 17:33 |
| fungi | browne: we have a documented repository retirement process too | 17:34 |
| lhinds | I will add this to the agenda and browne please let us know what the python peoples say | 17:34 |
| fungi | i can provide links to the documentation when the time comes | 17:34 |
| lhinds | +1 fungi | 17:34 |
| fungi | we have used it for other repos which moved from gerrit to github | 17:34 |
| browne | lhinds: will do | 17:35 |
| lhinds | cool thanks | 17:35 |
| lhinds | right great meeting everyone, feels like the band is back together again :) | 17:35 |
| lhinds | see you all again next time! | 17:36 |
| lhinds | thanks all! | 17:36 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 17:36 |
| lhinds | #endmeeting | 17:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 8 17:36:42 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-02-08-17.03.html | 17:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-02-08-17.03.txt | 17:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-02-08-17.03.log.html | 17:36 |
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