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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 15 15:01:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| xyang | hi | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:01 |
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| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| dustins | Hello again | 15:01 |
| dustins | \o | 15:01 |
| tbarron | Hi | 15:01 |
| tpsilva | hey | 15:02 |
| ganso | hello | 15:02 |
| bswartz | courtesy ping: toabctl markstur vponomaryov cknight | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I know gouthamr is still honeymooning, and zhongjun is out for chinese new year | 15:02 |
| tbarron | vkmc is here even though it's Carnaval, or hangover from same | 15:03 |
| vkmc | hard to get back from a long weekend | 15:03 |
| vkmc | >.< | 15:03 |
| tbarron | but it's not the middle of the night | 15:03 |
| bswartz | Too bad we don't have carnaval in the states | 15:03 |
| vkmc | you should have it... it's some sort of mardi gras I think | 15:03 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:03 |
| tbarron | nawlins is special | 15:04 |
| xyang | vkmc: how often do you have Carnaval? once a year? | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
| bswartz | Okay so we still have 2 weeks until release | 15:04 |
| vkmc | xyang, yes! | 15:05 |
| bswartz | Right now we should be bug hunting, fixing any release-blocking bugs, and fixing up docs for Queens | 15:05 |
| bswartz | PTL elections are over, and tbarron is now officially installed | 15:05 |
| bswartz | Huzzah! | 15:05 |
| vkmc | xyang, 40 days before easter... we go nuts... I think it's a latin american thing | 15:05 |
| xyang | :) | 15:05 |
| dustins | tbarron: congratulations! | 15:05 |
| vkmc | tbarron, congrats! | 15:06 |
| xyang | tbarron: congrats! | 15:06 |
| ganso | tbarron: congratulations! | 15:06 |
| bswartz | So the main things to cover this week are any critical bugs, and the PTG planning | 15:06 |
| bswartz | Let's do PTG planning first | 15:06 |
| bswartz | #topic PTG planning | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:06 | |
| tbarron | Thanks all, I'm going to need help and support from all of you :) | 15:06 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-rocky-ptg | 15:07 |
| dustins | tbarron: gladly :) | 15:07 |
| bswartz | We should probably take a look at the proposed topics, and start scheduling them for Tuesday or Friday, based on how much time they're likely to consume | 15:08 |
| bswartz | tbarron: I think you and I should get together and do that | 15:08 |
| tbarron | bswartz: +1 | 15:08 |
| bswartz | Based on how much stuff we have here, I doesn't feel like we'll use up 2 whole days | 15:08 |
| bswartz | Friday might be a short day | 15:08 |
| bswartz | Then again, maybe some people have topics not yet added to the etherpad | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | I probably do... | 15:09 |
| * bswartz thinks | 15:09 | |
| * tbarron sees smoke in the room | 15:09 | |
| ganso | bswartz: has it been oficially confirmed that we will have the Tuesday and Friday? | 15:10 |
| bswartz | In any case, since we're going to come up with a schedule soon, consider this your last chance to propose a topic for any time other than friday afternoon | 15:11 |
| bswartz | ganso: yes | 15:11 |
| ganso | bswartz: great | 15:11 |
| tbarron | ganso: http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html | 15:11 |
| ganso | tbarron: nice! we already have the room numbers! | 15:12 |
| bswartz | So my other AI related to PTG I still haven't done :-[ | 15:12 |
| tbarron | ? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I need to find out about evening events so we can schedule a team dinner | 15:12 |
| bswartz | Does anyone know what the schedule of evening events looks like? | 15:13 |
| xyang | Cinder plans Thursday night dinner: 2/28 | 15:14 |
| ganso | xyang: Thursday is 3/1 | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | We already eliminated Thursday+Friday | 15:15 |
| xyang | that's on Cinder ptg etherpad:) | 15:15 |
| bswartz | It has to be Mon, Tue, or Wed | 15:15 |
| ganso | xyang: lol, I'm going to fix it over there | 15:15 |
| bswartz | ganso: might be worth confirming with the cinder PTL that it's thursday not wednesday | 15:16 |
| ganso | jungleboyj: ^ | 15:16 |
| bswartz | tbarron: unfortunately there's an all-hands meeting here at netapp after this meeting, but are you available later this afternoon? | 15:17 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: Can you confirm: Cinder Planning to have a dinner outing on Thursday night: 3/1? | 15:17 |
| tbarron | bswartz: sure, afternoon works | 15:17 |
| jungleboyj | Yes. That is the plan. Thursday night. | 15:17 |
| bswartz | okay cool | 15:17 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: which month? | 15:17 |
| jungleboyj | I believe that's when we start March. | 15:18 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: you wrote down the wrong date initially:) | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #topic Let's Go Over New Bugs | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Let's Go Over New Bugs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:18 | |
| * tbarron is not doing well working on good relations with cinder | 15:18 | |
| bswartz | dustins: I assume you have some bugs from last week worth covering | 15:18 |
| jungleboyj | Do I have February 28th in the etherpad accidentally? | 15:18 |
| dustins | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:18 |
| bswartz | but first, are there any new bugs found since the RC1 tag? | 15:19 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: yes:) | 15:19 |
| bswartz | jungleboyj: yes | 15:19 |
| dustins | bswartz: You assume correctly, and I believe just one in the last few days | 15:19 |
| dustins | We can start with that one | 15:19 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1748696 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1748696 in Cinder "get-pools doesn't reflect capacity change made by consume_from_volume" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to TommyLike (hu-husheng) | 15:19 |
| dustins | This one is as yet unconfirmed in Manila, but does effect Cinder | 15:19 |
| jungleboyj | I will fix that. | 15:19 |
| xyang | it's already fixed by ganso | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | So I would bet that tommylike is on vacation for chinese new year | 15:20 |
| tbarron | dustins: the assumption is that we cloned oversubscription code from cinder so we need a similar fix | 15:20 |
| bswartz | Is this a release blocker? | 15:20 |
| tbarron | if so, we've lived with it for a long time | 15:21 |
| bswartz | Oh you mean the fix for manila is already merged? | 15:21 |
| tbarron | I don't mean that. | 15:21 |
| bswartz | responding to xyang | 15:21 |
| tbarron | And I think xyang was talking about the etherpad. | 15:21 |
| tbarron | xyang: ? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | oh | 15:21 |
| xyang | yes, I was responding to jungleboyj | 15:22 |
| ganso | IRC chaos lol | 15:22 |
| bswartz | multiple conversations overlapping | 15:22 |
| xyang | about oversubscription, I'm not sure we have the exact same issue. we handled a little differently here | 15:22 |
| tbarron | I suspect we need a careful fix for the oversubscription issue and wouldn't want to rush. | 15:22 |
| bswartz | okay so since tommylike isn't around, who understands this bug? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | I see the proposed cinder fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543205/ | 15:23 |
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| ganso | bswartz: I understand that there was an improvement merged in Cinder in the queens release, and we would like to have this improvement ported over to manila in the future. I am unaware of *BUGS* related to that | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Maybe we should look at whether our scheduler code is close enough to cinders that we have the same bug and the same fix would work? | 15:23 |
| xyang | I remember this part is a little different, but I'll have to take a look | 15:24 |
| bswartz | The main decisions we need to make today are: should we plan to address this in a RC2 | 15:25 |
| bswartz | and who wants to own the investigation? | 15:25 |
| tbarron | note that tommylike says manila *may* have the same bug | 15:25 |
| bswartz | Yeah I mean if it needs addressing at all | 15:25 |
| dustins | Right, it's unconfirmed in Manila right now | 15:26 |
| tbarron | xyang: do you have time to look and let us know if the issue exists in manila? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | Still if we want to fix it in an RC2, then there's a rush to get the investigation done | 15:26 |
| xyang | I can take a look | 15:26 |
| bswartz | Otherwise, we can talk about it at PTG and fix it in Rocky | 15:26 |
| bswartz | tbarron: Whatever happened to that glance bug? Did they make an RC2 that fixed it? | 15:27 |
| tbarron | xyang: if we have it, let bswartz and me know and we'll see about the rc2 vs rocky thing | 15:27 |
| tbarron | bswartz: it's fixed and postgresql tests now pass | 15:27 |
| xyang | tbarron: sure | 15:27 |
| bswartz | excellent | 15:27 |
| tbarron | bswartz: dustins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1749184 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1749184 in Manila "db migration error with mariadb >= 10.2.8" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Stefan Nica (stefan.nica) | 15:28 |
| tbarron | that's another new bug and potential rc2 candidate | 15:28 |
| tbarron | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543927/ addresses it | 15:28 |
| tbarron | gate (and our distro) are using using a lower mariadb version but | 15:28 |
| bswartz | Do we have a cap on the mariadb version we support? | 15:28 |
| tbarron | toabctl: is SUSE affected by this one? | 15:29 |
| * tbarron notes the bug reporter works for SUSE | 15:29 | |
| tbarron | bug reporter == bug fixer | 15:29 |
| bswartz | Yeah I'm looking at this fix -- I'm not sure why the fix is mysql specific | 15:29 |
| bswartz | Does the fix not also work on postgres? | 15:30 |
| bswartz | It seems like dropping a primary key before dropping the column itself should be completely harmless | 15:30 |
| tbarron | I think it does not, see patch set 3 | 15:31 |
| bswartz | Oh wait, this drops the whole primary key and recreates it | 15:31 |
| bswartz | I wonder if the limitation here comes for sqlalchemy or the underlying databases | 15:31 |
| bswartz | It makes me nervous to have different upgrade code for different DBs | 15:32 |
| tbarron | in patch set #3 he did the drop and readd unconditionally and the postgresql tests failed | 15:32 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: agree, but I wonder if anyone actully uses OpenStack with mariadb >= 10.2.8 yet | 15:33 |
| bswartz | But if SUSE is shipping a new enough version of MariaDB with they Queens openstack, then this does feel worthy of an RC2 | 15:33 |
| tbarron | I believe toabctl is on paternity leave (again). | 15:33 |
| bswartz | toabctl: do you think you could find this out soon? | 15:34 |
| bswartz | He was here 30 minutes ago | 15:34 |
| tbarron | bswartz: probably he'll read the backlog but I'll ask in the review as well. | 15:34 |
| bswartz | okay well this is important because if we need an RC2, then the sooner we cut it the better | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | As a reminder, we've branched already so it's okay to merge the fix into master as soon as the fix is ready, and we can take the decision to backport it seaparately | 15:36 |
| tbarron | bswartz: remind us of the rules w.r.t. doc fixes, etc. now. | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | doc fixes are always okay to merge, and those go into master | 15:36 |
| bswartz | I don't think we've ever backported docs changes | 15:37 |
| bswartz | The main thing that shouldn't be going into master are large/risky changes that could complicate any backports to queens | 15:37 |
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| tbarron | so if we have missing api doc it won't be in o.o.docs for queens then, right? | 15:38 |
| bswartz | Once the release is done, then we open the gates for anything into master | 15:38 |
| bswartz | tbarron: IDK id the new docs process requires us to maintain docs in stable branches of manila | 15:39 |
| bswartz | s/id/if/ | 15:39 |
| bswartz | We can look at how the docs builds are being done | 15:39 |
| tbarron | well if it *allows* us to, then we can backport those | 15:39 |
| tbarron | we have several api update reviews pending | 15:40 |
| bswartz | Yes but it's a huge hassle to maintain stable docs in addition to the master docs | 15:40 |
| bswartz | The question would be, is anyone going to read anything other than the master version of the docs? | 15:40 |
| tbarron | bswartz: I'm not saying we have to do it indefinitely, just that we have some outstanding and it may be worth doing it right after the release. | 15:40 |
| ganso | bswartz: perhaps, if the person is using an older version of OpenStack, the master version will not make sense | 15:40 |
| tbarron | well I'm not sure what oo./*latest*/ points to | 15:41 |
| bswartz | ganso: one would hope we don't change things so much that the master docs are nonsensical w.r.t. stable version of the code | 15:41 |
| * tbarron needs to check, I think we're pointing to pike rather than master atm | 15:41 | |
| * bswartz sighs | 15:41 | |
| ganso | IIRC we have /latest/ and previous ones, like /ocata/, /pike/ | 15:41 |
| bswartz | Okay perhaps we need to do some docs backports | 15:41 |
| tbarron | atm I'm just arguing for having *latest* up to date | 15:42 |
| bswartz | The master docs should be as correct as we can make them | 15:42 |
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| ganso | updating /latest means less things to worry about in the future =) | 15:42 |
| bswartz | If we need to backport some docs changes to stable branches, then so be it | 15:42 |
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| * dustins wishes he had time to be docs guy again | 15:43 | |
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| bswartz | okay dustins, what other bugs do you have? | 15:43 |
| ganso | I believe gouthamr is the current docs guy | 15:43 |
| bswartz | gouthamr is the newlywed guy | 15:43 |
| dustins | ganso: Ah, didn't know that! | 15:43 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1747695 | 15:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1747695 in Manila "neutron network multi segment ip version" [Undecided,New] | 15:44 |
| dustins | This one seems to have been found in Pike | 15:44 |
| bswartz | Related to the IPv6 changes? | 15:44 |
| bswartz | The multi-segment binding feature is not well covered by tests | 15:45 |
| dustins | I'm not even sure what that is, honestly | 15:45 |
| bswartz | ganso: do you know if any tests that NetApp runs could catch this regression (if that's what this is)? | 15:45 |
| ganso | bswartz: I believe tests we run aren't able to catch this | 15:46 |
| tbarron | There's a good chance that maurice will propose a fix, he has two in review right now | 15:46 |
| bswartz | Since it's pike-targeted, we don't have to consdier it for Queens until after the release | 15:46 |
| bswartz | But the bigger concern here is that the regression was able to happen due to poor test coverage | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I don't know how we could cover this better in the gate, but 3rd party CI can and should cover this kind of use case | 15:47 |
| ganso | Maurice links to stable/pike code, so this is not something we changed in queens, we actually might have fixed it (unlikely) | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I doubt it | 15:47 |
| tbarron | does he claim (or do we know) that it's a *regression*? | 15:48 |
| bswartz | Presumably he was running Ocata and it was working fine | 15:48 |
| tbarron | do we know know it's OK in ocata? | 15:48 |
| bswartz | And on pike it stopped working -- that's when the ipv6 stuff merged | 15:48 |
| tbarron | k, but I'll ask explicitly in the bug | 15:48 |
| dustins | tbarron: Thanks! | 15:49 |
| tbarron | bswartz: but I agree, it would be good to detect this ourselves rather than having large enterprises discover it for us. | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: that could be a PTG topic then -- how to test multisegment binding in the gate | 15:50 |
| tbarron | done | 15:50 |
| ganso | bswartz: +1 | 15:51 |
| bswartz | I'm not optimistic we'll find a solution | 15:51 |
| bswartz | But it's worth discussing | 15:51 |
| bswartz | dustins: next? | 15:51 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1746725 | 15:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1746725 in Manila "LVM driver is unable to remove addresses in different IP versions belonging to the same interface properly" [Undecided,New] | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | I would like to fix this bug with my new export helper | 15:52 |
| bswartz | Already a PTG topic | 15:52 |
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| tbarron | awesome | 15:53 |
| bswartz | dustins: anything else? | 15:53 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1744084 | 15:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1744084 in Manila " DocImpact: Add MapR-FS native driver" [Undecided,New] | 15:54 |
| dustins | This one's just a simple "are the docs there for this" bug | 15:54 |
| bswartz | Yes, let's check if there are docs | 15:54 |
| bswartz | #link https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/doc/source/configuration/shared-file-systems/drivers/maprfs-native-driver.rst | 15:54 |
| bswartz | Close bug? | 15:55 |
| dustins | Looks good to me | 15:55 |
| bswartz | next? | 15:55 |
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| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1733286 | 15:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733286 in Manila "snapshot share data Sync with the source share" [Undecided,New] | 15:56 |
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| dustins | An older one that I think we've looked at in the past | 15:56 |
| bswartz | Oh | 15:57 |
| ganso | dustins: indeed, looks like nobody volunteered to try to reproduce it | 15:57 |
| bswartz | This is generic driver specific | 15:57 |
| bswartz | I think there are caching/timing issues with how it does snapshots | 15:58 |
| bswartz | We just take a cinder snapshot and assume that the right thing happens | 15:58 |
| bswartz | If there's unwritten data in the service VM's cache though, it can get missed by the snapshot | 15:58 |
| dustins | bswartz: I guess it depends on how driven we are to fix this thing with the Generic driver | 15:59 |
| bswartz | The correct behavior would probably be to flush the write caches of the service VM before taking the cinder snasphot | 15:59 |
| ganso | time check | 16:00 |
| bswartz | Yeah given that it's probably not easy to reproduce this problem, it would be tough to test a fix | 16:00 |
| bswartz | But the fix could be as easy as SSH to service VM and invoke "sync" before cinder snapshot | 16:00 |
| bswartz | yeah we're out of time | 16:00 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| bswartz | I have to run to my next meeting | 16:00 |
| bswartz | tbarron: i'll be back later this afternoon | 16:00 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 15 16:01:04 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-02-15-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-02-15-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-02-15-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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| fungi | lhinds: was there a meeting planned today? | 17:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 17:00 |
| * fungi has a terribad memory | 17:00 | |
| * gagehugo doesn't remember either | 17:01 | |
| lhinds | fungi: yup | 17:01 |
| lhinds | hey gagehugo | 17:01 |
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| fungi | nice | 17:01 |
| browne | o/ | 17:02 |
| lhinds | sorry a little late.. | 17:02 |
| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 15 17:02:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:02 |
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| lhinds | #topic agena | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agena (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:02 | |
| lhinds | #undo | 17:02 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic agena | 17:02 |
| lhinds | #topic agenda | 17:02 |
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| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:02 |
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| lhinds | browne: do you want a slot for the bandit migration, or no news yet? | 17:03 |
| browne | no news yet. I haven't sent an email yet to PyQCA. Will do that today | 17:04 |
| lhinds | no worries browne | 17:04 |
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| lhinds | I think the main time its needed is before the PTG, so we have another meeting before then | 17:04 |
| lhinds | #topic PTG Planning | 17:05 |
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| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-ptg-rocky | 17:05 |
| lhinds | Main one I would be interested in feedback is the SIG and how we kick things off, what we would like to see, expect etc.. | 17:06 |
| lhinds | so please do add to that session if you have any ideas | 17:06 |
| lhinds | also other topics are welcome, but at the same time we have a good amount to justify a days room allocation now. | 17:06 |
| lhinds | fungi: do you know if room info has been released (such as who is where?) | 17:07 |
| fungi | yeah, it should be current on ptg.openstack.org now i believe | 17:07 |
| fungi | finding | 17:08 |
| gagehugo | oh nice | 17:08 |
| gagehugo | many suites | 17:08 |
| lhinds | Suite 691 | 17:08 |
| lhinds | cool! | 17:08 |
| fungi | #link http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html Scheduled tracks | 17:08 |
| fungi | check teh monday tab | 17:08 |
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| fungi | i see security booked into suite 691 | 17:09 |
| fungi | also ttx posted some good ptgbot reminders to the -dev ml: | 17:09 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/127413.html ptgbot HOWTO for track leads | 17:09 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/127414.html Booking reservable rooms with the ptgbot | 17:09 |
| lhinds | nice! | 17:10 |
| lhinds | k, anyone have anything more on PTG? | 17:10 |
| lhinds | #topic docs | 17:11 |
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| lhinds | pretty good shape here, nothing to look at from what I can see: | 17:12 |
| lhinds | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/security-doc | 17:12 |
| lhinds | #topic bandit | 17:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bandit (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:12 | |
| lhinds | clean queue! https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/bandit | 17:12 |
| lhinds | anything for bandit browne / gagehugo ? | 17:13 |
| gagehugo | the pycrypto blacklist caused an issue | 17:13 |
| gagehugo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bandit/+bug/1749603 | 17:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1749603 in Bandit "import blacklisting false positive for prefix matches" [Medium,New] - Assigned to jessegler (je808k) | 17:13 |
| gagehugo | but shouldn't be too bad to fix | 17:13 |
| lhinds | is that the one by Tin Lam? | 17:13 |
| gagehugo | yeah he did the patch to add it to the blacklist | 17:13 |
| browne | yeah, that's a new one. i think shouldn't be too bad to fix | 17:13 |
| lhinds | looks like jessegler will be putting a patch up | 17:14 |
| browne | I did a little triage yesterday. One of the bugs wasn't referenced properly, so I marked it Fix commited | 17:14 |
| jessegler | Yup | 17:14 |
| fungi | prometheanfire also struck up a new -dev ml thread on moving remaining projects from pycrypto to pyca/cryptography | 17:14 |
| lhinds | that might be a good topic for the PTG | 17:15 |
| lhinds | will add it.. | 17:15 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/127382.html Migration from pycrypto | 17:15 |
| fungi | in case anyone missed it | 17:15 |
| gagehugo | fungi thanks | 17:15 |
| * fungi serves as a meat-based mailing list index | 17:16 | |
| gagehugo | heh | 17:17 |
| lhinds | its in a ton of requirements, but not seeing anyone making an import | 17:18 |
| fungi | right, it could be fairly straightforward to get cleaned up in a lot of places | 17:18 |
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| fungi | i'm betting many of those were just cargo-culted in requirements lists for no good reason when copying from existing projects to start new ones | 17:18 |
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| gagehugo | possibly | 17:19 |
| lhinds | oh, hold on: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=from%20Crypto.*&i=nope&files=&repos= | 17:19 |
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| lhinds | unless cryptography has the same namespace as pycrypto? | 17:19 |
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| lhinds | no, that looks like its pycrypto | 17:20 |
| fungi | oh, yeah they won't always be direct imports | 17:21 |
| lhinds | let's look at this at the PTG | 17:21 |
| lhinds | ok, any other bandit matters? | 17:22 |
| gagehugo | we can discuss tatu's pycrypto usage if they'll be in the room :) | 17:22 |
| lhinds | gagehugo: yup..not that I know how they are. | 17:22 |
| gagehugo | lhinds I think we are good | 17:22 |
| lhinds | when I was a young lad, we had five projects I tell thee | 17:22 |
| fungi | yeah, i do see them importing from it | 17:22 |
| fungi | though tatu seems to have cargo-culted some other stuff | 17:23 |
| lhinds | the only way of using that name space is 'import from cryptography as crypto" | 17:23 |
| lhinds | so they are using the naughty one | 17:23 |
| fungi | for example, i was noticing earlier today when we started talking about new projects deciding to use eventlet due to cargo-cult behavior, that tatu has it in their requirements.txt | 17:23 |
| fungi | but they don't _actually_ seem to use eventley | 17:24 |
| fungi | eventlet | 17:24 |
| lhinds | redundant code that's not called? | 17:24 |
| fungi | eventlet is included in their requirements.txt but never imported that i can see | 17:24 |
| lhinds | see what you mean. | 17:25 |
| fungi | probably worth encouraging them to generally revisit their dependency list (beyond just the pycrypto usage) | 17:25 |
| lhinds | #topic OSSN | 17:25 |
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| lhinds | oh I need to get my finger out here. | 17:25 |
| lhinds | anyone else fancy authoring some notes with me? | 17:25 |
| lhinds | I did put out a blog as an outreach thing, but no one has tugged on the line and hook yet | 17:26 |
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| lhinds | I guess I can bang out a lot of these during PTG week | 17:27 |
| lhinds | everyone else, take a look, and see if one tickles your fancy | 17:27 |
| fungi | on a related note, the vmt always appreciates anyone in the community taking an interest in the various open public ossa bugs: | 17:27 |
| fungi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossa/ OSSA bug list | 17:28 |
| lhinds | fungi: +1 | 17:28 |
| fungi | usually those are sitting open purely due to lack of community interest in confirming exploitability of reported issues or coming up with backportable fixes | 17:29 |
| lhinds | fungi: I added the list to the agenda. | 17:29 |
| * gagehugo makes a bookmark | 17:29 | |
| lhinds | fungi: just thought of something, is there a VMT meeting agenda/room at the PTG? | 17:29 |
| fungi | not really, no | 17:29 |
| lhinds | do you need a slot in the security room? | 17:30 |
| fungi | probably not, but happy to participate in discussions there if needed | 17:30 |
| lhinds | sounds good | 17:30 |
| fungi | as i noted on the planning etherpad, just give me a heads up if there's something that comes up and i can usually arrange to drop in | 17:30 |
| lhinds | ack, thanks! | 17:31 |
| lhinds | ok, we are at that time already! | 17:31 |
| lhinds | so next week, will be the last one before the PTG | 17:31 |
| lhinds | thanks all! | 17:31 |
| fungi | thanks! | 17:31 |
| gagehugo | thanks | 17:31 |
| lhinds | #endmeeting | 17:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 15 17:31:44 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-02-15-17.02.html | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-02-15-17.02.txt | 17:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-02-15-17.02.log.html | 17:31 |
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