| *** ssathaye has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:00 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:04 | |
| *** _jbadiapa has quit IRC | 00:13 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:14 | |
| *** lbragstad has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:20 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:21 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:21 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:21 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:22 | |
| *** hiro-kobayashi has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:25 | |
| *** panda has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:26 | |
| *** lbragstad has quit IRC | 00:27 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:28 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:29 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:34 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:35 | |
| *** panda is now known as panda|off | 00:38 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:39 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:39 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:50 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:51 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:54 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:54 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:57 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 01:03 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:04 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 01:08 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:15 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 01:20 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 01:35 | |
| *** hongbin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:36 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:37 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 01:41 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:42 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:47 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 01:50 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:51 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 01:52 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 01:52 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:01 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:03 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 02:05 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 02:11 | |
| *** links has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:11 | |
| *** lbragstad has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:15 | |
| *** yangyapeng has quit IRC | 02:30 | |
| *** salv-orl_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 02:45 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
| *** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:08 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 03:12 | |
| *** lbragstad has quit IRC | 03:29 | |
| *** qwebirc859 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:37 | |
| *** qwebirc859 has quit IRC | 03:38 | |
| *** yangyapeng has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:44 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 03:56 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 04:00 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:00 | |
| *** rmcall has quit IRC | 04:02 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 04:05 | |
| *** rmcall has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:12 | |
| *** sridharg has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:28 | |
| *** trinaths has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:47 | |
| *** dalgaaf has quit IRC | 04:50 | |
| *** dalgaaf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 04:50 | |
| *** dave-mccowan has quit IRC | 04:53 | |
| *** coolsvap has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:03 | |
| *** coolsvap has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:08 | |
| *** anilvenkata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:10 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:17 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 05:22 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:34 | |
| *** janki has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:38 | |
| *** yamamoto_ has quit IRC | 05:38 | |
| *** bhavik1 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:52 | |
| *** hongbin has quit IRC | 05:53 | |
| *** chandankumar has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 05:57 | |
| *** bhavik1 has quit IRC | 06:00 | |
| *** skramaja has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:03 | |
| *** jbadiapa has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:24 | |
| *** alexchadin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 06:42 | |
| *** pgadiya has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:02 | |
| *** mjura has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:02 | |
| *** rcernin has quit IRC | 07:11 | |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:15 | |
| *** maciejjozefczyk has quit IRC | 07:23 | |
| *** alexchadin has quit IRC | 07:27 | |
| *** kobis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:28 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| *** alexchadin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:39 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:41 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:43 | |
| *** dsariel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:43 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 07:46 | |
| *** vds has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 07:48 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 07:48 | |
| *** links has quit IRC | 07:55 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:03 | |
| *** links has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:07 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 08:10 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:10 | |
| *** florianf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:14 | |
| *** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:14 | |
| *** tesseract has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:15 | |
| *** rmcall has quit IRC | 08:31 | |
| *** oidgar has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:35 | |
| *** krtaylor has quit IRC | 08:38 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 08:39 | |
| *** bauwser is now known as bauazs | 08:53 | |
| *** bauazs is now known as bauzas | 08:53 | |
| *** skramaja has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:01 | |
| *** jtomasek has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:03 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:06 | |
| *** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:06 | |
| *** derekh has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:21 | |
| *** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:26 | |
| *** oidgar has quit IRC | 09:28 | |
| *** fzdarsky has quit IRC | 09:31 | |
| *** links has quit IRC | 09:32 | |
| *** alexchadin has quit IRC | 09:36 | |
| *** florianf has quit IRC | 09:41 | |
| *** oidgar has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:43 | |
| *** links has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:45 | |
| *** oidgar has quit IRC | 09:47 | |
| *** florianf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 09:54 | |
| *** salv-orl_ has quit IRC | 10:02 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:03 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 10:07 | |
| *** kmalloc has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:14 | |
| *** zames2 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:16 | |
| *** erlon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:26 | |
| *** rmart04 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:34 | |
| *** zames2 has quit IRC | 10:39 | |
| *** panda|off is now known as panda | 10:45 | |
| *** zames2 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:48 | |
| *** dsariel has quit IRC | 10:54 | |
| *** erlon has quit IRC | 10:57 | |
| *** alexchadin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 10:58 | |
| *** priteau has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:19 | |
| *** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:22 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:25 | |
| *** pbourke has quit IRC | 11:37 | |
| *** pbourke has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:38 | |
| *** erlon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 11:41 | |
| *** bnemec is now known as bnemec-pto | 11:41 | |
| *** erlon has quit IRC | 11:52 | |
| *** alexchadin has quit IRC | 11:59 | |
| *** raildo has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:04 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:07 | |
| *** zames2 has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| *** anilvenkata has quit IRC | 12:10 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 12:12 | |
| *** dave-mccowan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:16 | |
| *** belmoreira has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:16 | |
| *** slagle has quit IRC | 12:16 | |
| *** trinaths has quit IRC | 12:19 | |
| *** slagle has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:20 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 12:21 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:25 | |
| *** stevebaker has quit IRC | 12:25 | |
| *** dsariel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:26 | |
| *** stevebaker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:29 | |
| *** stevebaker has quit IRC | 12:29 | |
| *** stevebaker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:29 | |
| *** stevebaker has quit IRC | 12:36 | |
| *** bfernando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:37 | |
| *** links has quit IRC | 12:37 | |
| *** hiro-kobayashi has quit IRC | 12:41 | |
| *** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 12:57 | |
| *** rfolco|away is now known as rfolco | 13:02 | |
| *** erlon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:09 | |
| *** edmondsw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:12 | |
| *** jokke__ is now known as jokke_ | 13:14 | |
| *** oidgar has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:28 | |
| *** anilvenkata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:33 | |
| *** pgadiya has quit IRC | 13:38 | |
| *** jokke_ has quit IRC | 13:41 | |
| *** jokke_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:41 | |
| *** jcoufal has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:44 | |
| *** belmorei_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:46 | |
| *** belmoreira has quit IRC | 13:48 | |
| *** dustins has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:50 | |
| *** cdent has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:56 | |
| *** takashin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:59 | |
| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
|---|---|---|
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 19 14:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| efried | @/ | 14:00 |
| cdent | hola | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Good UGT morning! Who's here? | 14:00 |
| jroll | \o | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| leakypipes | o/ | 14:00 |
| *** arvindn05 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:00 | |
| edleafe | Should be a quick meeting today | 14:01 |
| * leakypipes currently reading stephenfin's numa vswitch spec. thanks cdent for ruining my next couple hours. | 14:01 | |
| *** ttsiouts_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:01 | |
| * bauzas waves | 14:01 | |
| *** armaan has quit IRC | 14:01 | |
| * edleafe has the numa vswitch open in a safely buried tab | 14:01 | |
| ttsiouts_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| *** leakypipes is now known as jaypipes | 14:02 | |
| cdent | jaypipes: sorry about that. it's got pictures at least. The formatted version is a much better read than the rst version. | 14:02 |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:02 | |
| jaypipes | cdent: link to the html version? | 14:03 |
| efried | http://logs.openstack.org/90/541290/4/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/da8d825/html/specs/rocky/approved/numa-aware-vswitches.html | 14:03 |
| cdent | thanks efried | 14:03 |
| efried | I win | 14:03 |
| jaypipes | danke | 14:03 |
| * edleafe hands efried a cookie | 14:03 | |
| efried | nomnomnom | 14:03 |
| *** zames2 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:03 | |
| *** zames2 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:04 | |
| edleafe | #topic Specs & Reviews | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs & Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:04 | |
| jaypipes | ok so what's on the docket? more spec reviews I presume? | 14:04 |
| edleafe | Lots of new specs this week | 14:04 |
| edleafe | Rather than go over them all, are there any that need discussion? | 14:04 |
| jaypipes | nothing that shouldn't be discussed on the specs, IMHO | 14:05 |
| arvindn05 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541507/ -glance image traits | 14:05 |
| efried | I'm going to abandon resource class affinity. | 14:05 |
| *** florianf has quit IRC | 14:05 | |
| jaypipes | efried: k. I'm going to abandon hope. | 14:05 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: sure, but immediate feedback/discussion can clarify quicker | 14:05 |
| arvindn05 | i got good comments on the spec and updated it...needs to know if they are any major gotchas to address | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: ack | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | arvindn05: will review this morning. | 14:06 |
| efried | There's still a hole that needs to be filled, and I'll be interested to see how we plan to fill it. | 14:06 |
| arvindn05 | * thanks jaypipes | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | arvindn05: you're in the top 5 of the queue. | 14:06 |
| edleafe | #link Glance image traits https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541507/ | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | efried: re: affinity, I'm inclined to punt on it to at least "S" | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | efried: and keep affinity stuff in nova-scheduler filters for now | 14:06 |
| efried | jaypipes: We talking NUMA affinity? I got the impression that wasn't going to wait for S. | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | efried: yes, including NUMA affinity porting to placement. | 14:07 |
| efried | people are going to implement it right now, whether we "enable" them or not. | 14:07 |
| bauzas | mmm | 14:07 |
| * arvindn05 thanks jaypipes | 14:07 | |
| efried | Just hope we don't get painted into a corner. | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | efried: err, we already support NUMA affinity. just not in placement. | 14:07 |
| bauzas | I was planning to implement NUMA affinity for vGPUs by Rocky | 14:07 |
| bauzas | so maybe we should be discussing about that in the PTG | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: there's no reason that cannot be done as a weigher. | 14:08 |
| *** armaan has quit IRC | 14:08 | |
| efried | Yes, there's a number of NUMA topics in the etherpad. | 14:08 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: maybe, I just want to discuss the design with the community :) | 14:08 |
| bauzas | I don't have any concern :) | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | sure, I have no issues with NUMA stuff. it's just a priority thing. I'm not prioritizing NUMA work (*in placement*) compared to other items, mostly the update_provider_tree() work and solving the many issues around aggregates we have. | 14:09 |
| jaypipes | IOW, I want to solve the bugs we created for folks like mgagne before adding yet more features to placement. | 14:10 |
| efried | Cool. Let's merge u_p_t this week :) | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | so, getting RBAC in placement API would be higher priority, for instance, than NUMA affinity | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | again, this is just my opinion on where priorities should be for R | 14:10 |
| edleafe | Great fodder for PTG! | 14:11 |
| jaypipes | I'm eager to hear others opinions on prioritization of various items. | 14:11 |
| cdent | jaypipes: did you see my latest response on mgagne's rbac requirements? Summary is "I still don't get it" (no need to discuss it here, just noting it for sake of reminder) | 14:11 |
| bauzas | honestly, fine | 14:11 |
| jaypipes | cdent: yes, I saw it. I think dansmith responded? | 14:11 |
| *** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:14 | |
| cdent | jaypipes: if he did, I missed it, will go digging | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Anything else for specs/reviews ahead of PTG? | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | nothing from me. | 14:17 |
| *** florianf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:17 | |
| edleafe | moving on then... | 14:17 |
| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:17 | |
| *** bobmel_ has quit IRC | 14:17 | |
| edleafe | #link Bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement&orderby=-id&start=0 | 14:17 |
| edleafe | A few new ones this week | 14:18 |
| edleafe | efried is on the non-sharing bug | 14:18 |
| efried | patch is up for that 'un | 14:19 |
| edleafe | #link Placement returns 503 when Keystone is down https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1749797 | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1749797 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "placement returns 503 when keystone is down" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:19 |
| edleafe | That one is interesting | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | hmm. | 14:20 |
| edleafe | seems more like a keystone thing than placement, no? | 14:21 |
| *** belmorei_ has quit IRC | 14:21 | |
| cdent | not keystone itself, keystonemiddlware | 14:21 |
| *** belmoreira has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:21 | |
| jaypipes | edleafe: well, either way, placement shouldn't return a 503 should it? or maybe it should? not sure actually... | 14:21 |
| *** fnaval has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:21 | |
| cdent | it _kinda_ maps | 14:21 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: well, I did say "interesting" :) | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | yeah, I guess so | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | :) | 14:21 |
| arvindn05 | for other api's is 503 expected when keystone is down? i would guess o | 14:22 |
| *** lbragstad has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:23 | |
| edleafe | I agree that improving the error message for all would be a good step forward | 14:24 |
| cdent | I don't see any real alternative? | 14:25 |
| edleafe | cdent: agree | 14:25 |
| edleafe | other than "don't upgrade keystone ever" :) | 14:26 |
| edleafe | So... Anything else for Bugs? | 14:26 |
| arvindn05 | slightly related question | 14:27 |
| edleafe | go ahead | 14:27 |
| arvindn05 | for some nova api calls when no host could be found we just return "no valid host" | 14:27 |
| arvindn05 | would improving the error message there be a good improvement? | 14:27 |
| edleafe | arvindn05: improved in what way? | 14:28 |
| arvindn05 | since we now have traits, filters etc it would good to let the end user know what went wrong or where empty results are coming from etc | 14:28 |
| edleafe | arvindn05: we don't want to report details of the infrastructure to end users | 14:29 |
| edleafe | operators can see that info in the logs | 14:29 |
| arvindn05 | for example if placement api could not find host for traits, have it return that instead of user having to guess filter vs traits etc | 14:29 |
| arvindn05 | edleafe: got it... | 14:29 |
| arvindn05 | should be the same here right? why do want the 503 error message to be specific | 14:30 |
| edleafe | Because it's (we hope) a temporary thing? | 14:31 |
| arvindn05 | operators are doing the upgrade and they can get the information of keystone not available in logs and dont really need to be exposed to end user right? | 14:31 |
| edleafe | Generally if there aren't the right resources to match the request, that won't change in the near future | 14:31 |
| edleafe | But a 503 at least tells the user that the problem isn't theirs | 14:32 |
| edleafe | It's not perfect, so that's why we're trying to figure out the best way to deal with it | 14:32 |
| arvindn05 | yep got that. i thought the bug in question is asking to change the message from "503 Service Unavailable" -> Bad response code while validating token: 503: ServiceUnavailable: Service Unavailable (HTTP 503) | 14:33 |
| *** florianf has quit IRC | 14:34 | |
| arvindn05 | 503 definitely makes sense for me...i can add comments to the bug...we can move on...thanks for the info/discussion | 14:34 |
| edleafe | arvindn05: the bug was that returning 503 in general felt wrong to the bug reporter | 14:34 |
| *** florianf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:34 | |
| jroll | edleafe: but now I realize the error of my thoughts :P | 14:35 |
| edleafe | the error message change was in the discussion about it | 14:35 |
| jroll | I think it's fine to expose that to the placement user, I suspect we don't intend end users to use placement anyhow? | 14:35 |
| * edleafe realizes most of his thought are in error | 14:35 | |
| edleafe | jroll: zactly | 14:35 |
| edleafe | #topic Open Discussion | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:35 | |
| jroll | I hope my operators already know that keystone is down :P | 14:35 |
| edleafe | So I have a question: who is or is not going to be at PTG? | 14:36 |
| * edleafe will be there | 14:36 | |
| * jroll will | 14:36 | |
| cdent | o/ | 14:36 |
| takashin | will | 14:37 |
| efried | o/ | 14:37 |
| arvindn05 | except for the traits api within placement...placement API is not intended to be exposed to end user, as i understand it | 14:37 |
| efried | There's an attendance list at the top of the etherpad. | 14:37 |
| efried | oh. There was. | 14:37 |
| efried | Now it's at the bottom. | 14:37 |
| efried | Make sure you're updated on there. | 14:38 |
| cdent | jaypipes: you're at ptg, yes? | 14:38 |
| cdent | they have crunchie bars in IE? | 14:39 |
| efried | L329 | 14:39 |
| edleafe | #link Nova Rocky PTG etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-rocky | 14:39 |
| *** rmart04 has quit IRC | 14:40 | |
| edleafe | If you're going, add your name to the list near the bottom of ^^ | 14:40 |
| *** links has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:41 | |
| edleafe | If it isn't obvious yet, no meeting next week | 14:41 |
| edleafe | ...at least on IRC | 14:41 |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:42 | |
| *** apetrich has quit IRC | 14:42 | |
| edleafe | The following week (5 March) I will be in transit and not able to run the meeting. If the rest of you want a meeting then, someone else will have to chair it | 14:42 |
| *** apetrich has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:43 | |
| edleafe | If there's nothing else, let's wrap this up | 14:43 |
| cdent | nada | 14:43 |
| *** rmart04 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:43 | |
| edleafe | Thanks everyone! Looking forward to seeing many of you in Dublin! | 14:44 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 19 14:44:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-02-19-14.00.html | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-02-19-14.00.txt | 14:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-02-19-14.00.log.html | 14:44 |
| cdent | thanks edleafe | 14:44 |
| arvindn05 | unrelated question...tried the question in openstack-dev no responses...so trying it out here if we have the folks :) | 14:44 |
| arvindn05 | i got a nitpick comment...if i fix it i lose the +1 from the author...what is the expected workflow for this so i dont lose the +1's | 14:45 |
| *** takashin has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:45 | |
| edleafe | arvindn05: if you'd just lose the +1 and the fix is legitimate, I'd fix it and then ping them to re-apply their +1 | 14:46 |
| *** cdent has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:46 | |
| edleafe | If it were a +2, I'd fix it in a follow-up patch (assuming it's not a bug) | 14:46 |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:46 | |
| arvindn05 | ahh...ok...ping on IRC i am guessing? | 14:47 |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 14:47 | |
| *** jroll has quit IRC | 14:47 | |
| arvindn05 | thanks edleafe will try to catch my reviewers in IRC to get them to reapply the +1's | 14:48 |
| *** jroll has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:48 | |
| edleafe | yeah | 14:48 |
| *** armaan has quit IRC | 14:48 | |
| *** links has quit IRC | 14:49 | |
| *** stevebaker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:49 | |
| arvindn05 | ooh...one of the reviewers is you edleafe :) | 14:50 |
| arvindn05 | dont do the +1 yet...will fix a nit comment from cdent and also another one from matt | 14:50 |
| arvindn05 | hopefully updated one will be available tommorow | 14:51 |
| *** arvindn05 has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:52 | |
| *** lbragstad has quit IRC | 14:53 | |
| *** lbragstad has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:55 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:56 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 14:58 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:58 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:01 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:01 | |
| *** links has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:01 | |
| *** ttsiouts_ has quit IRC | 15:02 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:02 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:02 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:03 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:04 | |
| *** zames2 has quit IRC | 15:05 | |
| *** stevebaker has quit IRC | 15:07 | |
| *** rmart04_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:08 | |
| *** rmart04 has quit IRC | 15:08 | |
| *** rmart04_ is now known as rmart04 | 15:08 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:09 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:10 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:10 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:10 | |
| *** oidgar has quit IRC | 15:12 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:17 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:17 | |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:19 | |
| *** rmart04 has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| *** rmart04 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:21 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:22 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:23 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:26 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** adisky__ has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:29 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 15:31 | |
| *** sridharg has quit IRC | 15:31 | |
| *** dsariel has quit IRC | 15:33 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 15:33 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:34 | |
| *** caowei has quit IRC | 15:35 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:35 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 15:35 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:35 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:36 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 15:36 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:37 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 15:37 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:38 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 15:39 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:40 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:40 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:42 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 15:44 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:45 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 15:45 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:47 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:47 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:48 | |
| *** dsariel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:48 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| *** chyka has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:58 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 15:59 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:00 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 16:09 | |
| *** _pewp_ has quit IRC | 16:11 | |
| *** _pewp_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:14 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:17 | |
| *** mjura has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 16:21 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:23 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:23 | |
| *** kobis has quit IRC | 16:23 | |
| *** kobis has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:24 | |
| *** kobis has quit IRC | 16:24 | |
| *** rmart04 has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 16:27 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:27 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 16:29 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:29 | |
| *** slunkad_ has quit IRC | 16:31 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:32 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 16:37 | |
| *** ttsiouts_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:38 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:42 | |
| *** ttsiouts_ has quit IRC | 16:44 | |
| *** armaan has quit IRC | 16:44 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 16:48 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:00 | |
| *** trinaths has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:01 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:02 | |
| *** matrohon has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** chyka has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:03 | |
| *** belmoreira has quit IRC | 17:04 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 17:06 | |
| *** bfernando has quit IRC | 17:07 | |
| *** links has quit IRC | 17:09 | |
| *** chyka has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:09 | |
| *** myoung is now known as myoung|bbl | 17:11 | |
| *** felipemonteiro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:18 | |
| *** dsariel has quit IRC | 17:27 | |
| *** rmart04 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:34 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:35 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 17:36 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:36 | |
| *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:37 | |
| *** ijw has quit IRC | 17:38 | |
| *** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:39 | |
| *** dsariel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:40 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:47 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 17:52 | |
| *** felipemonteiro has quit IRC | 17:54 | |
| *** felipemonteiro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:54 | |
| *** felipemonteiro has quit IRC | 17:59 | |
| *** derekh has quit IRC | 18:00 | |
| *** anilvenkata has quit IRC | 18:00 | |
| *** armaan has quit IRC | 18:05 | |
| *** hongbin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:07 | |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:08 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:08 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 18:08 | |
| *** rmart04 has quit IRC | 18:16 | |
| *** rwsu has quit IRC | 18:17 | |
| *** oikiki has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:21 | |
| *** stevebaker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:26 | |
| *** rwsu has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:29 | |
| *** vds has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** tesseract has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** oikiki has quit IRC | 18:31 | |
| *** oikiki has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:32 | |
| *** rwsu has quit IRC | 18:46 | |
| *** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:48 | |
| *** edmondsw has quit IRC | 18:55 | |
| *** edmondsw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:56 | |
| *** edmondsw has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| *** rwsu has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:01 | |
| *** felipemonteiro has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:02 | |
| *** harlowja has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:03 | |
| *** egallen has quit IRC | 19:04 | |
| *** myoung|bbl is now known as myoung | 19:07 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:09 | |
| *** ijw has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| *** alexchadin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:24 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 19:26 | |
| *** alexchadin has quit IRC | 19:28 | |
| *** dsariel has quit IRC | 19:33 | |
| *** alexchadin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:33 | |
| *** alexchadin has quit IRC | 19:36 | |
| *** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:50 | |
| *** alee has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:57 | |
| *** hongbin_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:01 | |
| *** hongbin has quit IRC | 20:03 | |
| dave-mccowan | Barbican meeting is in the #openstack-barbican channel | 20:03 |
| *** alexchadin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:04 | |
| *** alexchadin has quit IRC | 20:04 | |
| *** shobhar has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:09 | |
| *** shobhar_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:09 | |
| *** dave-mccowan has quit IRC | 20:14 | |
| *** cloudrancher has quit IRC | 20:22 | |
| *** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:23 | |
| *** janki has quit IRC | 20:28 | |
| *** edmondsw has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:30 | |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:31 | |
| *** armaan has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
| *** felipemonteiro_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:32 | |
| *** felipemonteiro has quit IRC | 20:35 | |
| *** dsariel has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:37 | |
| *** tobiash has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:46 | |
| *** MarkBaker has quit IRC | 20:49 | |
| *** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:59 | |
| *** MarkBaker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:04 | |
| *** Ender948 has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:05 | |
| *** Ender948 has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:05 | |
| *** vds has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:15 | |
| *** dtrainor has quit IRC | 21:22 | |
| *** dtrainor has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:23 | |
| *** clayton has quit IRC | 21:28 | |
| *** hongbin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:29 | |
| *** hongbin_ has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| *** dprince has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** matrohon has quit IRC | 21:34 | |
| *** rcernin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:36 | |
| *** salv-orl_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:42 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 21:44 | |
| *** felipemonteiro_ has quit IRC | 21:45 | |
| *** felipemonteiro_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:45 | |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:52 | |
| *** felipemonteiro__ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:53 | |
| *** priteau has quit IRC | 21:53 | |
| *** priteau has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:54 | |
| *** jcoufal has quit IRC | 21:55 | |
| *** felipemonteiro_ has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| *** priteau has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
| corvus | any zuul folks around? | 22:01 |
| clarkb | hello | 22:01 |
| *** Shrews has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:01 | |
| pabelanger | o/ | 22:01 |
| corvus | #startmeeting zuul | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 19 22:01:44 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is corvus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:01 |
| corvus | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:01 |
| corvus | let's talk about v3 blockers | 22:02 |
| corvus | #topic Release blockers | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release blockers (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:02 | |
| corvus | #link roadmap https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/53 | 22:02 |
| corvus | there are 4 items on that list | 22:02 |
| corvus | the first is the zuul_json fix | 22:02 |
| corvus | dmsimard is working on that | 22:02 |
| dmsimard | hi | 22:02 |
| fungi | awesome | 22:02 |
| corvus | dmsimard: do you need any help on that? | 22:03 |
| *** dustins has quit IRC | 22:03 | |
| dmsimard | I'm working on that *right now*, I sent a patch that should reproduce the issue and if it does I'll see from there (might toggle keep or autohold) | 22:03 |
| corvus | dmsimard: oh you mean you're trying to reproduce it in infra's zuul? | 22:04 |
| *** raildo has quit IRC | 22:04 | |
| dmsimard | corvus: I'm unable to reproduce it locally by exercising zuul_stream and zuul_json by themselves (through the test-logs tool script) | 22:04 |
| dmsimard | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545994/ should hopefully trigger it | 22:05 |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 22:05 | |
| mordred | dmsimard: if it does, is the next step to figure out what needs to happen with that same test playbook in a zuul unittest to be able to cause the error there? | 22:06 |
| dmsimard | mordred: the next step is to see if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543633/ fixes it somehow | 22:06 |
| corvus | well, we need a test reproduction to see if it fixes it | 22:07 |
| dmsimard | as I recall, that patch on it's own wasn't enough to fix everything because the feature/zuulv3 version of that patch (same code) wasn't enough to fix it at one point, see the finger URLs here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504238/ | 22:07 |
| dmsimard | This may have changed with ansible dot releases or whatever might have happened since then, I'm just not confident to let that merge without additional validation first | 22:08 |
| dmsimard | so validation is being done | 22:08 |
| mordred | yah | 22:08 |
| corvus | dmsimard: well, you said the test in the change didn't fail without the fix | 22:08 |
| *** rbergeron has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:08 | |
| corvus | so it's not actually a test of the fix | 22:08 |
| mordred | right | 22:09 |
| *** florianf has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| * rbergeron sneaks into a seat ever so inconspicuously | 22:09 | |
| *** florianf has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:09 | |
| *** florianf has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| dmsimard | corvus: right, so I might need help understanding why that is once we figure out how to properly reproduce it | 22:09 |
| dmsimard | I didn't need more than that to validate the fix for ara | 22:09 |
| dmsimard | https://github.com/openstack/ara/commit/6fd7a95ab940d7a78ade0040232a1ffdaf41ccfc | 22:10 |
| corvus | so if there's still a problem (apparently there is, since we saw this, what, 1 or 2 weeks ago?) we need a test case to show the problem, so that we can confirm the fix and verify it doesn't regress in the future | 22:10 |
| mordred | dmsimard: well, let me know if you hit a wall on making it break again | 22:10 |
| mordred | corvus: agree | 22:10 |
| dmsimard | mordred: ack | 22:10 |
| dmsimard | corvus: yes, we need some sort of test indeed | 22:10 |
| corvus | i'm also happy to help | 22:11 |
| corvus | okay, so that's thing 1/4 -- hopefully we'll sort it out soon | 22:11 |
| dmsimard | ok, I'll shout once I get more info | 22:11 |
| mordred | dmsimard: honestly - give it SpamapS - he can get anything to break :) | 22:11 |
| corvus | thing 2/4 is, incidentally, to refactor zuul_stream so we have better testing :) | 22:11 |
| dmsimard | mordred: nod, I also need to work on that exit code thing we discussed the other day | 22:11 |
| corvus | mordred: i saw patches for that; what's the state? | 22:12 |
| mordred | corvus: yah - I started work on part of that, but have shifted to the javascript stack for now | 22:12 |
| corvus | okay, so we shouldn't focus on that yet.. javascript first | 22:12 |
| corvus | javascript is thing 3/4 | 22:12 |
| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:zuul-stream-rework is the work started down the streaming piece of the puzzle | 22:13 |
| corvus | mordred: is there anything anyone can do to pitch in on that now? or should we just wait? | 22:13 |
| mordred | it needs to be reworked a little bit to have the stream listener be tied to the job and not to the playbook | 22:13 |
| dmsimard | I'll take a look at those patches and review | 22:14 |
| mordred | corvus: anyone who feels like hacking should be able to take what's there and move forward if they want to - main thing is the lifecycle of the listener needs to be essentially the same as the ssh agent | 22:14 |
| mordred | this is because of the controlpersist | 22:15 |
| mordred | which can only forward something _once_ - not every time - since subsequent connections just re-use the previous forwarded port | 22:15 |
| *** shobhar has quit IRC | 22:15 | |
| mordred | so when we forward it the first time, the thign we forward needs to continue to exist for the next times | 22:16 |
| corvus | that means the listener can't start in the callback, right? it needs to be started by the executor | 22:16 |
| *** shobhar_ has quit IRC | 22:16 | |
| mordred | corvus: that's right. and it probably needs to be started as a subprocess rather than a thread, otherwise we've got a bazillion threads running around | 22:16 |
| mordred | corvus: so it may take a few more stabs to find the right thing | 22:17 |
| corvus | ok. so if anyone feels like poking at that, talk to mordred | 22:17 |
| mordred | yah - my feelings will not be hurt if someone wants to dive in :) | 22:18 |
| corvus | we're blocking the v3 release on this basically because there's so little testing of this right now, if someone comes in with a bug, we can't fix it | 22:18 |
| mordred | but also - if nobody else does, I should be able to return to it in a little bit | 22:18 |
| corvus | okay, thing 3/4 is javascript | 22:18 |
| mordred | that's very close - although I've still got two of the patches marked WIP | 22:19 |
| corvus | mordred: we merged 4 pre-req patches today -- does https://review.openstack.org/538099 need any reworking because of that? | 22:19 |
| mordred | corvus: yes - it does - that's the next thing on my list | 22:19 |
| mordred | that reworking shouldn't take long - I just wanted to be able to verify it against the live status page in addition to the unit tests | 22:20 |
| mordred | cause, you know - moving parts | 22:20 |
| *** vds has quit IRC | 22:20 | |
| corvus | ya | 22:20 |
| corvus | that's the best way to find out what extra unit tests to add :) | 22:21 |
| mordred | EXACTLY :) | 22:21 |
| mordred | http://logs.openstack.org/55/545755/1/check/build-javascript-content/0012b09/npm/html/status.html <-- however, is the end of the stack, and you can see it working | 22:21 |
| corvus | and speaking of tests, that one now includes the test that we can serve the js files in all 3 ways we know zuul is deployed | 22:21 |
| mordred | yup. thanks for that - it's already been helpful :) | 22:21 |
| *** andreykurilin has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:22 | |
| *** priteau has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:22 | |
| corvus | i'm looking forward to not breaking openstack-infra's zuul everytime we land a web change :) | 22:22 |
| clarkb | ++ | 22:22 |
| mordred | RIGHT? | 22:22 |
| fungi | will be nice | 22:23 |
| corvus | okay, so if mordred and dmsimard ask for help about any of those 3 efforts, please pitch in -- those are our internal release blockers, and we're so close | 22:23 |
| corvus | thing 4/4 on the list is the github3.py release | 22:23 |
| * mordred is curious on the state of 4 ... | 22:23 | |
| corvus | jlk: around? | 22:23 |
| jlk | in fact, I am. | 22:24 |
| corvus | yay! | 22:24 |
| pabelanger | I'll read up 2/4 tonight | 22:24 |
| jlk | I have no real change in news, other than continued work on teh open issue. https://github.com/sigmavirus24/github3.py/pull/773 | 22:24 |
| jlk | A pile of my work was merged into that PR, but there is more to do yet it seems. | 22:25 |
| corvus | jlk: if folks had time to pitch in on that, are there more units of work to hand out? | 22:25 |
| corvus | or it it mostly in the hands of the maintainers at this point? | 22:26 |
| jlk | well... not easily no. It's mostly in the hands of the maintainer. I know part of the work that needs to be done, but a lot of this is kinda beyond me too. It's a fairly big restructuring of how the objects interact, but it's mostly opaque to the API users. | 22:26 |
| jlk | I think it's down to the last few files to go through, but they all intertwine a bit. I don't know what the maintainer's strategy is tor the rest, but I'll ask. | 22:27 |
| corvus | cool | 22:27 |
| corvus | we probably aren't going to be ready to release zuul this week, so we still have a bit of time | 22:28 |
| corvus | but once we clear the first 3 things on that list, and this is all that remains... i think we need to consider a backup plan | 22:28 |
| corvus | which i think is probably to vendor github3.py into zuul temporarily. | 22:28 |
| corvus | hopefully it won't have to live there for long | 22:29 |
| fungi | vendoring code copies is the way of the world these days | 22:29 |
| jlk | I think that's the right thing to do | 22:29 |
| mordred | yah. much as I'm not a fan of vendoring things like that, it seems like an ok choice in this instance | 22:29 |
| corvus | but i think that's the best way we can get zuul out there without making a big fuss. | 22:29 |
| mordred | fungi: so is electing fascists ... but that doesn't mean I want to continue the trend :) | 22:29 |
| fungi | fair! | 22:30 |
| corvus | mordred: ahem | 22:30 |
| jlk | o_O | 22:30 |
| mordred | uhoh. /me politicaled | 22:30 |
| * rbergeron fans herself | 22:30 | |
| * mordred backs slowly out of the room | 22:30 | |
| jlk | oh now I get the context. I was missing it for a moment. | 22:30 |
| corvus | okay, so we'll see how things shake out, and if it comes to that, i'll volunteer to do the vendoring | 22:30 |
| mordred | corvus: kk. I will volunteer to review | 22:30 |
| corvus | and of course, we'll remove it and release as soon as github3.py releases | 22:31 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:31 |
| fungi | sounds like a reasonable approach | 22:31 |
| corvus | okay, that's the whole release-blocker list... thanks everyone whose working on those, and everyone else who's assisting :) | 22:32 |
| fungi | hopefully that doesn't take long enough that we have to start worrying about tracking security bugs in a vendored unreleased depndency | 22:32 |
| corvus | #topic open discussion | 22:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:32 | |
| mordred | corvus: is it worth going ahead and doing that since we have the git url in our requirements now anyway? | 22:32 |
| corvus | fungi: yeah | 22:32 |
| clarkb | worth noting a few behavioral changes have merged recently in zuul. We've updated how timeouts work and the status api moved | 22:32 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ ... .json have been removed from rest api calls | 22:32 |
| * rbergeron haz a thing for open discussions when the moment presents itself :) | 22:32 | |
| corvus | mordred: i don't think it's going to be very impactful for folks until we're nearly ready to release... | 22:33 |
| mordred | corvus: kk | 22:33 |
| * mordred presents rbergeron a moment | 22:33 | |
| mordred | oh. wait. that's an old loaf of bread ... | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | ooh. neat | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | oh, not so neat. I guess i should obtain a moment from corvus instead | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | ;) | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | anywayyyyyyy | 22:33 |
| rbergeron | So: Some of you may have seen the lovely message from mr. rich bowen on the dev list re: video things at the PTG - I chatted with him a few weeks ago and... | 22:34 |
| pabelanger | Over the weekend, we had another issue where zuul.o.o lost access to nodepool.o.o (zookeeper) a few times. This results in zuul unlocking nodes, and nodepool mass deleting all in-use nodes, which deletes them under running jobs. Aside from moving to zookeeper cluster, plan for PTG. Is there other way to help protect running jobs from not losing their nodes under them and resulting in a bunch of | 22:34 |
| pabelanger | SSH failures | 22:34 |
| rbergeron | he was super willing to record some interviews (like, group style, 2 or 3 humans, plus anyone who might be using zuul aside from openstack who wants to talk as well) | 22:34 |
| rbergeron | for us, which might be useful / interesting fodder to add to the website. | 22:35 |
| rbergeron | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/127525.html | 22:35 |
| mordred | rbergeron: \o/ that sounds like good | 22:35 |
| corvus | i would love more website fodder! | 22:35 |
| rbergeron | So i am here to procure wranglings of a few of you to do such things. | 22:35 |
| fungi | that'd be neat | 22:35 |
| mordred | rbergeron: I'm always happy to sit in front of a camera - especially when I don't have to prepare before-hand | 22:35 |
| dmsimard | I can vouch for rbowen doing great work with the interviews, had a few in the past | 22:35 |
| dmsimard | He's on #rdo (rbowen) if you want to chat | 22:35 |
| rbergeron | (i also said I'd try to wrangle someone into volunteering to also chat about broader infra things, and I should poke dmsimard about talking about ARA, and maybe mordred talking about ansible / shade / modules along with other humans) | 22:35 |
| rbergeron | (and, you know, wrangling is my thing, so, yeah) | 22:36 |
| dmsimard | rbergeron: spoiler, I already had an interview about ARA | 22:36 |
| corvus | tobiash: is usually not around for these meetings, but he will be at the ptg and is a non-openstack user; we should see if he'd be willing to chat | 22:36 |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 22:36 | |
| rbergeron | in any case: lest we all say "yeah yeah" and then find ourselves exhausted on thursday night: | 22:36 |
| clarkb | ya I tend to avoid adding too much for ^ that reason | 22:36 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 22:36 |
| rbergeron | he's doing things tues-thurs, though he might make an exception for a monday thing for anyone who is only around on monday (AHEM COUGH JLK) | 22:36 |
| jlk | hai. I mean, I could talk about our failed/cancelled CI project, but uh... | 22:37 |
| * jlk wonders if Clint would be around | 22:37 | |
| rbergeron | so: I can either voluntold a few of you, but i know infra as well as zuul folks have some cross-project things going on / help sessions etc, so if anyone is willing to pinpoint an afternoon or moning where they feel safe :) | 22:37 |
| *** dave-mccowan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:37 | |
| jlk | oh, I mean IBM is still using it internally with great success as far as I know. | 22:37 |
| fungi | jlk: or you could unveil your secret plans for world domination | 22:37 |
| *** MarkBaker has quit IRC | 22:38 | |
| rbergeron | jlk: mostly highlighting "yay github works with zuul" is the thing. it's nicer to highlight it with the human who has done a bunch of that work :) but... after, post-thing-via-video, whatever is cool. | 22:38 |
| clarkb | I think clint said he won't be making it | 22:38 |
| rbergeron | or i can dress up as you | 22:38 |
| jlk | oh yeah I can talk about that too. | 22:38 |
| *** priteau has quit IRC | 22:38 | |
| rbergeron | and also: it'd be neat if like, you know, not just people employed by my gracious employer overlords | 22:39 |
| mordred | yah. also - since jlk works at github now - an interview on how awesome zuul github integration is from him would be neat | 22:39 |
| rbergeron | pretty please | 22:39 |
| jlk | yup, I think I can toe that line and make it clear I did the work before joining GitHub, and that it's not an official GitHub effort :D | 22:40 |
| mordred | then I can take words out of context and say "github endorses using zuul for all CI" | 22:40 |
| rbergeron | jlk: but he can do things monday if you have things to say, or if we can pair you up with a human, and maybe we can do another pair of humans in a few days :) | 22:40 |
| mordred | jlk: oh - darn - you anticipated my evil | 22:40 |
| rbergeron | mordred: you're always evil, is anticipaaaaation really a thing there? | 22:40 |
| corvus | rbergeron: cool, with jlk, and maybe asking tobiash tomorrow, we might get 2 non-openstack folks | 22:40 |
| mordred | rbergeron: good point | 22:40 |
| fungi | mordred: careful editing of his interview in post production can get around it | 22:40 |
| corvus | are there any other non-openstack folks going to the ptg? | 22:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: the stephen colbert treatment? | 22:40 |
| jlk | I should be back in Dublin again on Thursday and could slip away for an hour or so if it doesn't workout otherwise. | 22:41 |
| rbergeron | non-openstack or not-just-openstack? :) | 22:41 |
| corvus | rbergeron: not-just-openstack -- i guess folks that can give a non-openstack-infra perspective on zuul | 22:41 |
| mordred | rbergeron: also - melvin is signed up for an interview about openlab, so that should be another non-redhat-zuul talk | 22:41 |
| rbergeron | jlk: ack, I will see what we can do for monday and also keep that in mind. | 22:41 |
| jlk | thanks | 22:42 |
| rbergeron | mordred: oh good, that was a thing i brained for a moment before the squirrels came earlier today | 22:42 |
| corvus | there's the software factory perspective | 22:42 |
| dmsimard | there'll be some folks involved in software factory at the PTG | 22:42 |
| corvus | and maybe anyone using zuulv3 for openstack third-party testing | 22:42 |
| rbergeron | so: should I pick some times on the sheet and propose them on the zuul list -- or just sign up for things and also eyeball the infra plan and hope that if we screw up that it will still be okay? :) | 22:42 |
| mordred | rbergeron: have I mentioned that squrrels have literally been trying to eat through our roof above our bedroom? | 22:42 |
| rbergeron | dmsimard: ahh, do you know who exactly? | 22:42 |
| rbergeron | mordred: TMI | 22:43 |
| clarkb | rbergeron: did you see my rough schedule for infra rooms? | 22:43 |
| fungi | texas-sized squirrels | 22:43 |
| dmsimard | rbergeron: I'll double check and get back to you | 22:43 |
| mordred | very loud dubstep scares them away, fwiw | 22:43 |
| clarkb | rbergeron: tldr is monday tuesday is more infra office hours for random projects. Expect to have a bit of zuulv3 related stuff there | 22:43 |
| rbergeron | clarkb: I did eyeball it, or maybe i only eyeballed the etherpad and not an actual schedule of activities | 22:43 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: rbergeron I know jpena and apevec are also attending from SF | 22:43 |
| clarkb | then wednesday and first half of thursday just focus on zuul and transition into more general infra topics thursday afternoon and friday | 22:43 |
| rbergeron | clarkb: yep, caught that | 22:43 |
| rbergeron | *nod* | 22:44 |
| *** armaan has quit IRC | 22:44 | |
| fungi | clarkb: fwiw, i'm expecting monday/tuesday to be a _lot_ of zuul v3 job config q&a | 22:44 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 22:44 |
| * fungi predicts a line out the door | 22:44 | |
| corvus | everything good around here has a line out the door, so ++ | 22:44 |
| fungi | (okay, hopefully not *that* bad) | 22:44 |
| * rbergeron will be the gatekeeper with the marshmallows | 22:44 | |
| rbergeron | ...and bad jokes and puns | 22:45 |
| Shrews | what, no calamari? | 22:45 |
| rbergeron | okay, so: i'll find slots and do my best to make them work with times and will just blather at y'all on the channel. i think that's probably best (and probably in the morning because wow, i have been typing for like 11 hours) | 22:45 |
| corvus | rbergeron: why don't you send something to the zuul list (whether it's "i think you should do these times", or "i signed you up for these times") since it may get better exposure there, especially for the not-just-openstack folks | 22:46 |
| *** armaan has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:46 | |
| mordred | Shrews: nicely played | 22:46 |
| rbergeron | corvus: sounds good, and thank you for the "yes, more humans will see that" reminder :) | 22:46 |
| rbergeron | (even i forget this here and there despite reminding others of it all the time!) | 22:46 |
| rbergeron | shrews: only if you want me to vanish | 22:47 |
| rbergeron | #action rbergeron to mail list with times she signed people up for after thorough research and hope for non-conflict to do zuul interviews for yayyyy, content | 22:48 |
| rbergeron | unrelated: corvus, can we mail the meeting logs to the zuul list? (I thought this happened automagically but i may be thinking of fedora instead) | 22:48 |
| rbergeron | (or maybe they go to infra) | 22:48 |
| rbergeron | (i guess it is slightly related as it made me think of this) | 22:48 |
| mordred | rbergeron: they go to web | 22:49 |
| clarkb | rbergeron: the logs are hosted at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org but aren't emailed otu | 22:49 |
| rbergeron | (and with that: that is all the squirrels that i have) | 22:49 |
| rbergeron | ah, okay. i may be confuzzled | 22:49 |
| corvus | we could (manually) email logs (and agenda reminders) if folks would find that useful... | 22:49 |
| mordred | rbergeron: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-13-19.01.html | 22:49 |
| rbergeron | (i can see how that would be miserable on openstack-dev, but maybe not on the zuul list) | 22:50 |
| corvus | if we do that, we should start with the next meeting cause i totally haven't been #ing | 22:50 |
| mordred | corvus: it's possibly not a terrible idea to email log summary and links | 22:50 |
| rbergeron | corvus: i have mostly found it useful in that sometimes folks are like "OH HEY NEAT I HAD NO IDEA THERE WERE MEETINGS" | 22:50 |
| fungi | we used to have someone doing some of that, but determined that people used their calendars and knew where to find the logs/minutes anyway | 22:50 |
| clarkb | also no meeting next week? It will be middle of the night almost right? | 22:50 |
| corvus | oh, speaking of next meeting, let's not have one next week? | 22:50 |
| rbergeron | "and i can see i might have things to yap about" | 22:50 |
| fungi | yeah, it'll be like 10-11pm local | 22:50 |
| *** HeOS has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
| rbergeron | corvus: ack :) and yes, no meets next week plz | 22:50 |
| corvus | also, i won't be around for the meeting after that -- do folks want to have it, or call it a PTG recovery day? | 22:50 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 22:51 |
| corvus | i'll probably be drinking whiskey to warm up after tramping through a bog or something | 22:51 |
| clarkb | I will be traveling so will be ptg recovery day for me | 22:51 |
| clarkb | I'll be on a plane | 22:51 |
| rbergeron | my friend is in dublin and he saw an actual tanker truck of guinness | 22:51 |
| fungi | convenient bit of trivia, while we're in dublin they'll be on utc basically, so i won't need to spend the week converting times to add them to my calendar (for once) | 22:51 |
| pabelanger | rbergeron: OMG | 22:52 |
| rbergeron | pabelanger: right. like, super cliche yet also awesome | 22:52 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 22:52 |
| *** MarkBaker has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:52 | |
| corvus | pabelanger: to your question earlier -- no we don't have a way of avoiding that other than "fix whatever communication problem is between zuul and zookeeper" | 22:52 |
| corvus | so hopefully this gets better with the cluster | 22:53 |
| rbergeron | https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/28061721_10213872342754761_459075879379154238_o.jpg?oh=7b377a0a69bb3df528ad5cac28837917&oe=5B11639B | 22:53 |
| pabelanger | corvus: yah, that is what I figured. Wanted to ask | 22:53 |
| mordred | ++ cluster | 22:54 |
| corvus | okay, i saw no objections to canceling next 2, and some support | 22:54 |
| corvus | #info no meeting on feb 26 or mar 5 | 22:55 |
| corvus | anything else? | 22:55 |
| pabelanger | safe travels | 22:55 |
| rbergeron | plz to have safe metal tubing | 22:55 |
| rbergeron | and respond to pabelanger's infra dinner things! | 22:56 |
| corvus | ++. thanks all, see some of you soon :) | 22:56 |
| fungi | thanks! | 22:56 |
| corvus | #endmeeting | 22:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 22:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 19 22:56:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2018/zuul.2018-02-19-22.01.html | 22:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2018/zuul.2018-02-19-22.01.txt | 22:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2018/zuul.2018-02-19-22.01.log.html | 22:56 |
| *** Shrews has left #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:56 | |
| *** dave-mccowan has quit IRC | 23:05 | |
| *** jbadiapa has quit IRC | 23:22 | |
| *** egallen_ has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:23 | |
| *** egallen has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** egallen_ is now known as egallen | 23:24 | |
| *** felipemonteiro__ has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** hongbin has quit IRC | 23:27 | |
| *** trinaths has quit IRC | 23:32 | |
| *** jbadiapa has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:35 | |
| *** oikiki has quit IRC | 23:36 | |
| *** panda is now known as panda|off | 23:37 | |
| *** fnaval has quit IRC | 23:39 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 23:54 | |
| *** kumarmn has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:54 | |
| *** chyka has quit IRC | 23:58 | |
| *** chyka has joined #openstack-meeting-alt | 23:59 | |
| *** kumarmn has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.3 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
