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edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 16 14:00:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
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jaypipes | o/ | 14:00 |
efried | ō/ | 14:00 |
mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
tssurya | o/ | 14:00 |
takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
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edleafe | #link Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:00 |
cdent | hello | 14:00 |
edleafe | Hope that everyone had an enjoyable weekend | 14:01 |
jaypipes | icing my elbow was just ... awesome. | 14:01 |
edleafe | oooh, sounds like fun! | 14:02 |
edleafe | #topic Specs | 14:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Specs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:02 | |
edleafe | Once again I'll bulk list them here (courtesy of cdent) | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link VMware: place instances on resource pool https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549067/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Proposes NUMA topology with RPs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552924/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Account for host agg allocation ratio in placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544683/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Spec for isolating configuration of placement database https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552927/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Support default allocation ratios https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552105/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Spec on preemptible servers https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438640/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Handle nested providers for allocation candidates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556873/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Proposes Multiple GPU types https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557065/ | 14:03 |
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edleafe | #link Standardize CPU resource tracking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555081/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Network bandwidth resource provider https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502306/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Propose counting quota usage from placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509042/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Add history behind nullable project_id and user_id https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560174/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Return resources of entire trees in Placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559466/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | #link Numbered request groups use different providers https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560974/ | 14:03 |
edleafe | Are there any specs anyone would like to discuss? | 14:03 |
cdent | only to reiterate: I'd really like to see " Spec for isolating configuration of placement database" merge. | 14:04 |
cdent | it doesn't have to mean anything changes, it just means things _can_ change | 14:04 |
bauzas | \o (even if in another private corp discussion too) | 14:05 |
edleafe | Anything else on specs? | 14:05 |
efried | jaypipes seems like a good second +2 on that spec | 14:05 |
efried | watch out for that bus overhead, jaypipes | 14:05 |
jaypipes | efried: I will review it. | 14:05 |
jaypipes | efried: you are referring to cdent's placement db spec, yes? | 14:06 |
efried | jaypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552927/ | 14:06 |
jaypipes | ya | 14:06 |
jaypipes | on it | 14:06 |
efried | thanks | 14:06 |
edleafe | cool | 14:06 |
edleafe | Next up: | 14:07 |
edleafe | #topic Reviews | 14:07 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:07 | |
edleafe | Keeping with our decision last week to use the placement update as our priority tracker, here are the main themes: | 14:07 |
edleafe | #link Update Provider Tree https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/update-provider-tree | 14:07 |
edleafe | #link Nested providers https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/nested-resource-providers | 14:07 |
edleafe | #link Nested providers in allocation candidates https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/nested-resource-providers-allocation-candidates | 14:07 |
edleafe | #link Mirror nova host aggregates to placement https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/placement-mirror-host-aggregates | 14:08 |
edleafe | #link Forbidden Traits https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/placement-forbidden-traits | 14:08 |
edleafe | #link Consumer Generations https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/add-consumer-generation | 14:08 |
edleafe | # Extraction https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/placement-extract | 14:08 |
edleafe | I am currently working on the consumer_generation stuff. I have some POC for using the Consumer object posted, but still need to add tests | 14:08 |
efried | Granular should be on that list. | 14:09 |
efried | I'm working on that - very sparsely, desperately trying to make time for it. | 14:09 |
edleafe | efried: want to add a #link? | 14:09 |
efried | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/granular-resource-requests+status:open | 14:09 |
efried | Or if you prefer | 14:10 |
efried | #link Granular Resource Requests https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/granular-resource-requests+status:open | 14:10 |
edleafe | much better | 14:10 |
cdent | I'm happy to add Granular as a theme on the weekly report, but that list of main themes was a result of some post-ptg summaries. Have we declared granular a proper (whatever that means) theme? (we probably should, but just checking to be sure) | 14:10 |
edleafe | cdent: please add that on the next update. I'll update the meeting page | 14:10 |
edleafe | It seems pretty critical for nrp to work | 14:11 |
efried | It's been a central assumption of pretty much every placement-using spec we've got approved or proposed for Rocky and beyond. | 14:11 |
* cdent nods | 14:12 | |
cdent | I think mentally I just had it lumped under nested, but can make it standalone for clarity | 14:12 |
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cdent | there's room with forbidden already merged | 14:13 |
efried | :) | 14:13 |
cdent | (thanks for that, btw) | 14:13 |
efried | has anyone considered how we're going to consume that from the nova side? | 14:14 |
bauzas | consuming what? | 14:14 |
bauzas | request groups ? | 14:14 |
bauzas | or forbidden traits ? | 14:14 |
bauzas | if the former, my own spec tries to use it | 14:14 |
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efried | I saw a spec somewhere that mentioned using forbidden traits too, but I think it was tangential. Do we have a real use case for it yet? | 14:15 |
cdent | the ptg sure made it seem so | 14:16 |
cdent | but don't know how it's flowed since | 14:16 |
efried | It was an ironic thing, maybe? | 14:16 |
edleafe | efried: one of the suggested use cases was a flavor where the instance should not land on an SSD host | 14:16 |
efried | okay, so if any of our use cases involve "flavor" then we need a new spec. | 14:16 |
edleafe | why? | 14:17 |
efried | because right now we don't have anything specified that translates flavor syntax to placement syntax. | 14:17 |
efried | The work cdent did was just on the placement side. | 14:17 |
efried | We never decided how the flavor would look | 14:17 |
efried | Whether it was going to be with ! or =forbidden or what. | 14:17 |
edleafe | I thought we had settled on ! | 14:18 |
efried | and have nothing lined up to decide that, or implement it once decided. | 14:18 |
efried | We settled on ! for the placement side, yes. | 14:18 |
cdent | I thought we decided =forbidden in flavors and ! on the placement side | 14:18 |
efried | But we never even discussed the flavor side, to my recollection. | 14:18 |
efried | See? :P | 14:18 |
cdent | different because the language was already different | 14:18 |
cdent | mostly because extra specs are already kinda weird | 14:18 |
efried | But even if we did "already decide", there's nothing lined up to actually implement it. | 14:18 |
efried | so | 14:18 |
edleafe | You may be right, but that wasn't my recollection | 14:18 |
efried | do we need to add THAT for rocky? | 14:19 |
cdent | trait:FOO={required,forbidden} | 14:19 |
jaypipes | efried: what cdent says ^^ | 14:19 |
cdent | it's small thing | 14:19 |
cdent | adding great power | 14:19 |
cdent | if nobody else has the time/cycles I can do it | 14:19 |
jaypipes | I thought we'd settled on required:FOO=forbidden? | 14:19 |
edleafe | cdent: so something like: required=foo&forbidden=bar ? | 14:20 |
efried | flavor trait:FOO=forbidden translates to placement qstring ?required=!FOO | 14:20 |
jaypipes | w.r.t to the flavor extra spec format. | 14:20 |
efried | edleafe: No, the placement syntax is definitely already settled. | 14:20 |
jaypipes | right, sorry trait:FOO=forbidden | 14:20 |
efried | So let's not have this design discussion here. | 14:20 |
cdent | efried: yes, that translation | 14:20 |
efried | Cause we need to write a spec for it anyway. | 14:20 |
jaypipes | efried: haven't we already had the design discussion on this? | 14:21 |
cdent | we have | 14:21 |
cdent | and I'm not sure we need a spec, maybe just a blueprint | 14:21 |
jaypipes | efried: it should be trait:FOO=forbidden. | 14:21 |
efried | jaypipes: Informally, verbally, but to my recollection never completely landed. | 14:21 |
cdent | becquse all we're doing is implementation a translation of extra spec to query string | 14:21 |
efried | I'm fine with that. Needs a spec regardless, so let's do that there. | 14:21 |
efried | but | 14:21 |
efried | do we have room for it in rocky? | 14:21 |
efried | and/or is it important enough to prioritize over other things we would rather enslave^W task cdent with? | 14:22 |
jaypipes | I don't see a) why this needs another spec (it's an implementation detail) and b) why we can't do this in Rocky | 14:22 |
edleafe | It would seem to be a low priority, though | 14:22 |
efried | needs spec because has all the impacts that the spec template was written to make us address. | 14:23 |
efried | and because we need it written down how it's going to work. | 14:23 |
efried | that's my take, anyway. | 14:23 |
* jaypipes burned out on writing specs... someone else can throw one up. | 14:24 | |
cdent | like I said I'll take this action if we say it should be done. I don't agree that it needs a spec, but if people think it does, I'm happy to do that part too. | 14:24 |
edleafe | When the spec creation/discussion takes longer than the coding would... | 14:24 |
bauzas | btw. I have a spec that I'll probably abandon and just write code | 14:25 |
jaypipes | edleafe: right.... | 14:25 |
cdent | i'll take this ball, in whatever form, let's move on | 14:26 |
edleafe | thanks cdent | 14:26 |
* alex_xu waves late | 14:27 | |
edleafe | Anyone else want to discuss one of these Main Theme reviews? | 14:27 |
* edleafe waves back at alex_xu | 14:27 | |
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edleafe | Coming up: a dump of all the other reviews listed in the placement update: | 14:28 |
edleafe | #link Purge comp_node and res_prvdr records during deletion of cells/hosts https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546660/ | 14:28 |
edleafe | #link A huge pile of improvements to osc-placement https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/placement-osc-plugin-rocky | 14:28 |
edleafe | #link Add compute capabilities traits (to os-traits) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546713/ | 14:28 |
edleafe | #link General policy sample file for placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524425/ | 14:28 |
edleafe | #link Provide framework for setting placement error codes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546177/ | 14:28 |
edleafe | #link Get resource provider by uuid or name (osc-placement) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527791/ | 14:28 |
edleafe | #link placement: Make API history doc more consistent https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477478/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Handle agg generation conflict in report client https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556669/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Remove usage of [placement]os_region_name https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557086/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Add unit test for non-placement resize https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537614/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Address issues raised in adding member_of to GET /a-c https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554357/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link cover migration cases with functional tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493865/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Update check to ensure compute is using placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558089/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Bug fixes for sharing resource providers https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1732731 | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link normalize_name helper (in os-traits) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560107/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Fix issues with unicode uppercasing in normalizing resource classes https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1762789 | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link WIP at granular in allocation candidates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517757/ | 14:29 |
edleafe | #link Fix a bug with syncing traits. It can fail, ruining the whole service. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1760322 | 14:29 |
cdent | as a point of order, since these are "other" can we just leave them to email. repeating them here seems | 14:30 |
cdent | seems an ack that people don't read email or look at their gerrit dashboards, which we should encourage or accept | 14:30 |
edleafe | I add them for the sake of completeness to anyone reading the meeting minutes. | 14:31 |
cdent | let's establish the precedent that people do read and are reviewing, and will raise issues here based on thinks they can link in if necessary | 14:31 |
edleafe | I think that that precedent was established when we switched from one-by-one listing of specs and reviews to the overall listing | 14:31 |
efried | That wfm. The repetition of the whole list of links makes it more like noise than like actionable | 14:32 |
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efried | The comprehensive list was good for a week or two of "whoah, we've got a lot of stuff on the table" | 14:32 |
edleafe | ok, if that's the consensus, next week I'll replace that with link to the most recent placement update email. How does that sound? | 14:34 |
cdent | +1 | 14:34 |
efried | +1 | 14:34 |
edleafe | kewl | 14:34 |
efried | and of course folks can still link in specific ones they want to discuss in the meeting. | 14:35 |
edleafe | #agreed Stop posting all the links to reviews in the meeting, and replace that with a link to the most recent placement update email | 14:35 |
edleafe | Let's move on | 14:36 |
edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:36 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:36 | |
edleafe | #link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement&orderby=-id | 14:36 |
edleafe | One new one this week, with backport potential | 14:37 |
edleafe | There's already a fix proposed | 14:37 |
edleafe | Anything else bug-related? | 14:37 |
cdent | no sir | 14:38 |
edleafe | #topic Open Discussion | 14:38 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:38 | |
edleafe | What's on your respective minds? | 14:38 |
cdent | Spring is late this year. | 14:39 |
edleafe | Not here it ain't | 14:39 |
edleafe | Probably more like your summer - days going up to the 80-90F range | 14:40 |
efried | oh? It was mid-40s up here in Central TX | 14:40 |
mriedem | we got 8 inches of snow this weekend | 14:40 |
efried | What is this snow of which you speak? | 14:40 |
mriedem | i played xmas music on saturday morning | 14:40 |
efried | Oh, that stuff we had in Dublin. | 14:40 |
* cdent considers tracking snow in placement | 14:40 | |
cdent | are we done? | 14:40 |
edleafe | with snow? I sure am! | 14:41 |
edleafe | OK, thanks everyone! | 14:41 |
edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:41 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:41 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 16 14:41:25 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:41 |
cdent | thanks edleafe | 14:41 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-04-16-14.00.html | 14:41 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-04-16-14.00.txt | 14:41 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-04-16-14.00.log.html | 14:41 |
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