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| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 15 09:01:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:02 |
| masahito | hi blazar folks | 09:02 |
| masahito | #topic RollCall | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:02 | |
| priteau | o/ | 09:02 |
| masahito | priteau: hi | 09:03 |
| masahito | Today's agenda is | 09:03 |
| masahito | 1. the Forum session | 09:03 |
| masahito | 2. Next weekly meeting | 09:03 |
| masahito | 3. AOB | 09:03 |
| masahito | anything else? | 09:03 |
| masahito | #topic the Forum session | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "the Forum session (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:04 | |
| masahito | The forum session I proposed is accepted and scheduled on Monday in the Vancouver summit. | 09:05 |
| masahito | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Vancouver2018 | 09:05 |
| hiro-kobayashi | hi | 09:05 |
| priteau | Great news! | 09:05 |
| masahito | I created etherpad for the session. Feel free to write down your idea. | 09:06 |
| masahito | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR18-forum-reservation-requirements | 09:06 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: hi | 09:06 |
| masahito | The page now has only the copy of my proposal. | 09:06 |
| priteau | The parallel tracks don't have conflicting topics as well, that's good. | 09:06 |
| masahito | right. | 09:07 |
| masahito | Additionally, I found Preemptive instances has one session. I'll join the session. | 09:08 |
| masahito | [1350-1430] Preemptible instances - the way forward - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR18-pre-emptible-instances | 09:08 |
| priteau | It could be interesting to join the placement sessions too | 09:08 |
| priteau | [1510-1550] Building the path to extracting Placement from Nova https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-placement-extraction | 09:08 |
| priteau | [1620-1700] Planning to use Placement in Cinder https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-cinder-placement | 09:08 |
| priteau | (on Monday) | 09:09 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Thanks for sharing session info | 09:09 |
| priteau | The preemptible instances session is on Tuesday | 09:09 |
| hiro-kobayashi | it's better at least one of us join above sessions | 09:10 |
| masahito | I hope the cinder one helps us to make an idea using Placement in Blazar. | 09:11 |
| priteau | And also how to integrate non-compute services with Blazar | 09:11 |
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| masahito | hiro-kobayashi and I will be in the summit. We could join the sessions. | 09:12 |
| masahito | priteau: right. | 09:12 |
| priteau | If Cinder moves to using placement, maybe there will be a generic way we can support any service using placement | 09:12 |
| masahito | yes. Anyway, lots of forum sessions are in the summit. | 09:14 |
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| masahito | another comment? | 09:16 |
| priteau | That's all from me | 09:17 |
| hiro-kobayashi | me too | 09:17 |
| masahito | got it. let's move on to next | 09:18 |
| masahito | #topic Next weekly meeting | 09:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next weekly meeting (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:18 | |
| masahito | Next week is the summit week as you know. | 09:18 |
| masahito | If possible, I'd like to skip next meeting. | 09:19 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I'm at the summit, too. I'm okay to skip it. | 09:20 |
| priteau | That works for me too as I wouldn't be able to join anyway. | 09:20 |
| priteau | I will be in Chicago next Tuesday. | 09:21 |
| masahito | got it. let's skip next meeting. | 09:21 |
| masahito | priteau: Safe trip to Chicago. | 09:21 |
| masahito | #topic AOB | 09:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:22 | |
| masahito | less topics today. | 09:22 |
| masahito | Does someone have something to share/discuss? | 09:22 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | I reviewed masahito's multi-freepools patch today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564138/ | 09:23 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I posted one comment but now I have another question. | 09:23 |
| masahito | thanks | 09:24 |
| hiro-kobayashi | it uses 'resource_properties' for instance reservation but 'hypervisor_properties' for host reservation | 09:24 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Which is better, hypervisor_properties or resource_properties? | 09:25 |
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| priteau | hypervisor_properties are dynamically imported from Nova when the operator calls add-host | 09:26 |
| priteau | resource_properties query extra_capabilities | 09:26 |
| masahito | Actually, either hypervisor_properties or resource_properties works for the host reservation. | 09:27 |
| priteau | Shouldn't it be hypervisor_properties everywhere? | 09:27 |
| masahito | but for the meaning of az as priteau mentioned, I choose hypervisor_properties. | 09:28 |
| masahito | The az info is imported from Nova. The hypervisor_properties looks good to me. | 09:28 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Got it. Current implementation calls Nova hypervisors API and get az when the add-host is called. So, it is a hypervisor properties. make sense. | 09:28 |
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| priteau | We should check whether that | 09:30 |
| priteau | information is kept up to date | 09:30 |
| priteau | i.e. if you add-host to Blazar, then change the AZ in nova, is it reflected in Blazar? | 09:30 |
| priteau | I am not sure it is | 09:30 |
| hiro-kobayashi | We should investigate it. | 09:31 |
| masahito | Current implementation doesn't apply the change. | 09:32 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | A polling of notification listener is needed for such capability, right? | 09:33 |
| hiro-kobayashi | s/of/or | 09:33 |
| masahito | IIRC, It's described in the spec. | 09:33 |
| priteau | Or a periodic query of Nova | 09:33 |
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| masahito | Or re-add the host to Blazar. | 09:33 |
| priteau | The operator will be prone to forget | 09:34 |
| priteau | I think Blazar should automate it | 09:34 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | From operators point of view, I think changing az is rare operation. So I think priority of automation is not so high. | 09:35 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Anyway, changing of az can cause reallocations :-( | 09:36 |
| masahito | IIRC, the az info is managed by nova.conf. At least, the host is need to be reboot. | 09:37 |
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| masahito | I'll update the patch set with some change. | 09:38 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | masahit: for handling change of az? | 09:40 |
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| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: refrecting your comment and add comments or releasenote. | 09:40 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: OK. thanks! | 09:40 |
| masahito | looks nothing more to talk. | 09:41 |
| masahito | let's finish the meeting early. | 09:41 |
| masahito | thanks all. bye! | 09:41 |
| hiro-kobayashi | thanks! bye | 09:42 |
| masahito | Safe trip to Vancouver or Chicago! | 09:42 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 09:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 15 09:42:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-05-15-09.01.html | 09:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-05-15-09.01.txt | 09:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-05-15-09.01.log.html | 09:42 |
| priteau | Thank you, safe trip! | 09:42 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 15 16:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he, wxy, sonuk | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 16:00 |
| wxy| | o/ | 16:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:01 |
| ayoung | He, Ho. Lets go! | 16:01 |
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| gagehugo | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | we'll give folks another minute to join | 16:02 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:03 |
| jgrassler | o/ | 16:03 |
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| lbragstad | ok - let's get started | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | #topic specifications | 16:04 |
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| lbragstad | reminder that our next project deadline is milestone 2, which is specification freeze | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | we have a couple specs left that are looking good, and need reviews | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540803/ | 16:04 |
| lamt | o/ | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | ^ is the unified limits specification and it details the first hierarchical enforcement model we'll be targeting | 16:05 |
| hrybacki | ^^ looks like it's in solid shape | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | thanks wxy| for keeping that updated | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | an earlier iteration of that proposal actually got a +1 from tim bell | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | nice. | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | it would be cool to get his sign off again | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | and possible yankcrime or johnthetubaguy | 16:06 |
| kmalloc | good to hear that the Cern folks are happy with the general direction, and ++ his +1 again would be good. | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | possibly* | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | next: default roles | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566377/ | 16:07 |
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| lbragstad | that one is super close too | 16:07 |
| hrybacki | aye, I commented on your comment lbragstad | 16:07 |
| hrybacki | AFIAC it's g2g | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | cool - i'll revisit that after the meeting for sure | 16:08 |
| hrybacki | thanks lbragstad | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464678/ is also shaping up | 16:08 |
| hrybacki | aye, still needs to be moved into the stein specs folder | 16:08 |
| kmalloc | cool, i'll get eyes on it too post meeting | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | if anyone has time to review those, that would be fantastic | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | does anyone else have anything for specifications/ | 16:09 |
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| hrybacki | lbragstad: is it feasible to land the default roles spec before Monday? | 16:10 |
| hrybacki | asking for a friend | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | afaict - i don't have any objections and my comments have been addressed | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | pending a look this afternoon - i'll likely put my +2 on it | 16:10 |
| hrybacki | ack ack | 16:10 |
| knikolla | I’ll review also | 16:11 |
| hrybacki | thanks knikolla | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | thanks knikolla | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | anything else specification wise? | 16:11 |
| knikolla | Jwt? | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | looks like we got some feedback from someone who is familiar with k8s | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541903/ | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | but - other than that, it hasn't really been reviewed in the last month or so | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | oh that is fantastic (the feedback) | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | we still need to figure out how we would incorporate that support, and how opinionated we would be | 16:13 |
| knikolla | Should we discuss this at the summit? | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | we can | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | likely going to be isolated to hallway tracks | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | we don't have a formal session for it | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | i think we should. i think we need to be very opinionated, but i want to be sure we are flexible enough get k8s cross support as described | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | hallway track should be fine | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | just a warning, we'll need to be on top of documenting what we come up with and reviewing it right away | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | we can also focus on scafolding and push the opinionated discussion to the next PTG if we can't come to a conclusion here | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | if we still plan to target this to rocky | 16:15 |
| knikolla | i'd really like to see this for rocky. | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | let's make a point to discuss it then | 16:16 |
| knikolla | i can take more ownership pushing the discussion since i have almost nothing on my keystone plate. | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: that'd be great | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | a word about the technical discussions on this stuff | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | i'm a slow reader, but there is a lot of material about this stuff | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | either within the k8s community, the jwt/jwe/jws RFCs, etc.. | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | if anyone is looking to participate in those discussion, that might make for some fruitful reading if you're on a plane | 16:19 |
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| lbragstad | only saying this because i vastly underestimated the amount of time needed to get up to speed on the stuff | 16:20 |
| ayoung | I've got some K8S familiarity | 16:20 |
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| lbragstad | are you familiar with how the token system within k8s works? | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | (not that we need to get into the details now) | 16:21 |
| ayoung | yeah, I can take that one | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | but that knowledge will be helpful if we plan to discuss this next week | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: you want to work with knikolla on some of that then? | 16:22 |
| ayoung | Sure | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | thanks | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | i'll ride along w/ ayoung | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | oh - good deal | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | just so we have a couple folks familiar | 16:22 |
| ayoung | K8S is important to my new life, too | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | besides, i'm poking at k8s so good to have knowledge | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | sounds like a productive car ride | 16:23 |
| hrybacki | I'm envisioning kmalloc reading aloud in a melodic voice to Adam as he drives | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | anything else specification wise? | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | LOL | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | I'd just put him to sleep and then that is bad. | 16:23 |
| hrybacki | autotunkens | 16:23 |
| ayoung | Probably other way around. Kar belongs to Kmalloc and I am the one tending to sing | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | LOL | 16:24 |
| hrybacki | lol | 16:24 |
| hrybacki | I think we're good on specs lbragstad :) | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | cool | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | #topic community goals | 16:24 |
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| lbragstad | we don't have anything to do with the mox community goal this release | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | but we're in an interesting position with the other | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | yay, we're out from under Mox! | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | [we have been for a while] | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | jroll: and knikolla brought it up on the mailing list | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | #link #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130467.html | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | i attmpted to knock this out yesterday, but it was a little more involved than i was expecting | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | i wanted to run the options by the group and hopefully figure out what the best way forward is | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/rocky/enable-mutable-configuration.html | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | ^ that's the community goal | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: between the two of us where we're digging around we can probably make that happen | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | (me with flask stuff and you with the config bits) | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | right - we have some refactoring to do in that area | 16:27 |
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| kmalloc | actually... we can consistently rely on etcd existing, right? | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | in an openstack deployment, right? | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | can we lean on something like that for toggling some config overrides? | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | etcd/zk/consul/something | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | i know it's a base service | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | but that's about all i know | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | lets see how reliable that is. | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | it might meet our needs for debug [make it a ks-manage commange to toggle] | 16:29 |
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| kmalloc | i have some other ideas | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | if that doesn't work | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | like what? | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | looking into the socket communication, etc like we touched on yesterday | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | but i'll need to see how the wsgi-runners will work and if the parent process can listen. | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | ^ that's the point where the wheels fell off yesterday when i was thinking about this | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | but we have ot be super careful because a number of our configs cannot be changed without a hard restart, due to how the managers/drivers are loaded | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | so i *think* we need to slowly edge into mutable configs, i think debug is 100% a good place to start. | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | so far, debug is the only concrete example in the community goal | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | i am ok-ish leaning on an external service. | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | if it's reliably in place | 16:32 |
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| kmalloc | i'll take a closer look at uwsgi and mod_wsgi to see how we can handle reload of config at runtime, mod_wsgi might be an apache reconfigure | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | and the _only_ real option, short of etcd. | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | sure | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | but i *think* we can issue some interesting things to uwsgi (almost certain, or we could provide an extension to it) | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | otherwise - we're going to be listening for a specific event and just doing a re-init of the logger as far as i can tell | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | and gunicorn would be similar to uwsgi, once we can use it [if we decide to test it] | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: i don't think we need to even re-init the logger. we might be able to just override the config, most of our debug just checks for debug in config. | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | oh - it's reloaded at runtime? | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | no, if we set the loglevel to DEBUG we are just skipping the noop check | 16:35 |
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| kmalloc | we are already debug logging, but python logger is just not emitting anything because level is > DEBUG | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | s/emitting/doing work/ | 16:35 |
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| kmalloc | and in some cases we have a if debug: logic check | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | so we may not need to re-init the logger we may just need to set the log-level on the logger object. | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | oh - sure | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | and ensure our oslo.config object has the right value | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | so - every other project is going to be using mutable configs it sounds lie | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | like* | 16:37 |
| lbragstad | which means the "event" is changing the configuration option | 16:37 |
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| lbragstad | ideally it would be nice to maintain that experience instead of coming up with a different event to signal this off of | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | i can see how inotify works for multiple listeners. | 16:37 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad+1 | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | and ++ | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | but if we can't, lets make it as easy as possible | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | let me look at the mutable config mechanism(s) and see how we can read the event[s] with our wsgi containers | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | i only bring that up because picking up notifications off other files that aren't configuration files was another possible solution | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | cool - thanks kmalloc | 16:38 |
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| lbragstad | does anyone else have questions on the gaol? | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | goal*? | 16:43 |
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| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:44 |
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| * hrybacki has nothing | 16:44 | |
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| lbragstad | alrighty - i appreciate everyone's time | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | reminder that office hours will be starting in about 15 minutes | 16:46 |
| hrybacki | likewise lbragstad | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | thanks folks | 16:46 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 15 16:46:40 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-05-15-16.00.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-05-15-16.00.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-05-15-16.00.log.html | 16:46 |
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| hogepodge | #startmeeting refstack | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 15 17:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hogepodge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 17:00 |
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| mguiney | o/ | 17:00 |
| hogepodge | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-18-05-15 agenda | 17:00 |
| hogepodge | going to give everyone a few minutes | 17:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 17:02 |
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| hogepodge | #chair tosky | 17:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hogepodge tosky | 17:03 |
| hogepodge | #topic python-tempestconf | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "python-tempestconf (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 17:03 | |
| hogepodge | take it away tosky | 17:04 |
| tosky | as you may noticed on the IRC channel, there was a lot of work | 17:04 |
| tosky | the main goal being addressed is one of the stories coming from the PTG, namely | 17:05 |
| tosky | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001696 Refactor tempestconf in order to integrate with refstack_client tool | 17:05 |
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| tosky | chandankumar is working on | 17:06 |
| tosky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541273/ Generate tempest.conf automatically using refstack-client | 17:06 |
| tosky | and other changes are related to it, for example: | 17:06 |
| chandankumar | tosky: the above is ready, still depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567820/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562672/ | 17:06 |
| tosky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567798/ Make tempestconf easier to use as an library | 17:06 |
| tosky | chandankumar: and also ^^ | 17:06 |
| tosky | chandankumar: because it will change the API a bit | 17:06 |
| tosky | uhm, sorry, I messed up the review numbers | 17:07 |
| chandankumar | tosky: the devstack zuul job is failing due to permission issue to write tempest.conf file in devstack job | 17:07 |
| chandankumar | tosky: the code is ready for testing, if we pull the patches | 17:07 |
| tosky | #undo | 17:07 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567798/ | 17:07 |
| tosky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562672/ Make tempestconf easier to use as an library | 17:08 |
| tosky | the latter needs a rebase after other changes | 17:08 |
| tosky | chandankumar: yes, and the other patches are not (totally) ready | 17:08 |
| chandankumar | One help is needed here how to use pip3 here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541273/42/tox.ini@14 when tox -e py35 is called | 17:08 |
| chandankumar | hogepodge: there was one more confusion related --os-cloud flag | 17:09 |
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| chandankumar | so when refstack-client config --os-cloud <cloud name> will be used does, it needs to generate tempest account file? | 17:10 |
| chandankumar | since we donot to set expose credentials in tempest.conf | 17:10 |
| tosky | chandankumar: we can discuss about it later, are trying to install a package from git master? | 17:10 |
| chandankumar | tosky: yup | 17:10 |
| hogepodge | tempest will need to get the credential from somewhere | 17:11 |
| luzC_ | o/ | 17:11 |
| hogepodge | I think the choice is either tempest.conf or accounts.yaml | 17:11 |
| hogepodge | accounts.yaml is what isolates the credentials from tempest.conf | 17:11 |
| hogepodge | chandankumar: I'm not sure how to switch between pip and pip3, is there a variable that can be set to choose? | 17:12 |
| chandankumar | when os-cloud is used, we are taking credentials from os-client-config and dumping it in tempest.conf using tempestconf, the question stays the same, do we need to create accounts.yaml or better not expose --os-cloud with refstack-client? | 17:13 |
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| tosky | I guess that we are talking about | 17:15 |
| tosky | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001693 Generate accounts.yaml when --os-cloud is used with python-tempestconf | 17:15 |
| tosky | ? | 17:15 |
| chandankumar | hogepodge: that would be doable adding small script under command section to export pip3 when py3 is ised | 17:15 |
| chandankumar | tosky: yes | 17:15 |
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| tosky | chandankumar: re pip3: I think that the release team would probably advise to release a version of tempestconf and depend on it | 17:16 |
| chandankumar | tosky: that is also another option, I will check with them | 17:16 |
| tosky | with the normal requirements.txt | 17:16 |
| tosky | but yes, better check with them | 17:16 |
| hogepodge | +1 to that | 17:16 |
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| luzC_ | chandankumar: refstack requires 'test_accounts_file' to be set up on tempest.conf | 17:18 |
| luzC_ | in this case accounts.yaml must exist or refstack-client will throw an exception | 17:18 |
| mguiney | fortunately, there's already tooling that generates that | 17:19 |
| mguiney | so the generation hopefully won't be awful | 17:19 |
| tosky | chandankumar: about --os-cloud: I think we may have discuss it already and I hope I'm not contradicting myself, but: | 17:19 |
| tosky | why should not we create accounts.yaml? What do you mean by "expose --os-cloud"? | 17:19 |
| tosky | what is the problem that you foresee? | 17:19 |
| hogepodge | I don't see any problem. If an cloud file exists, we have the necessary information to populate both accounts.yaml with credentials and tempest.conf with endpoints. | 17:20 |
| luzC_ | I'm looking at refstack-client if there is no account.yaml it can work with 'username' and 'password' under 'identity' section at tempest.conf | 17:21 |
| chandankumar | tosky: hogepodge we can create accounts.yaml from os-cloud, tosky last time we discussed on that but we were not able convince why we need accoints.yaml from os-cloud as tempest account-generaotr already does that | 17:23 |
| hogepodge | yeah, refstack-client isn't enforcing this. it's all tempest | 17:23 |
| chandankumar | that's why i wanted to confirm | 17:23 |
| chandankumar | that's it from myside | 17:24 |
| hogepodge | I'm confused as to why this is an issue. If we have tooling to generate the config we need it should all be fine. No need to reproduce what's already there. | 17:24 |
| tosky | uhm, tempest account generator creates new users, so it does not work if you have no admin credentials | 17:25 |
| tosky | at least checking https://docs.openstack.org/tempest/latest/account_generator.html | 17:25 |
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| hogepodge | Oh yeah, it's different use cases. | 17:25 |
| chandankumar | tosky: yup it does not work with non-admin credentials | 17:25 |
| hogepodge | With tempest the presumption is your credentials are non-admin. | 17:25 |
| mguiney | right. i forgot you needed admin for that | 17:25 |
| chandankumar | with case of os-cloud, we have already credentials | 17:26 |
| hogepodge | So you should pull the credentials from the cloud config and populate accounts.yaml and tempest.conf with the correct values. | 17:26 |
| tosky | chandankumar: we don't have necessarily admin credentials even with os-cloud | 17:26 |
| tosky | the credentials available through --os-cloud may not be admin | 17:27 |
| chandankumar | tosky: yes | 17:27 |
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| tosky | we could discuss if the tempest account generator can be used internally by tempestconf to replace the custom code which creates the account, but that's unrelated to the present discussion | 17:28 |
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| chandankumar | tosky: so, i think we need custom code to generate account.yaml from os-cloud in python-tempestconf | 17:29 |
| hogepodge | I think we're all on the same page now. custom code needed to generate account.yaml and tempest.conf from a cloud config file | 17:30 |
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| tosky_ | umpf, network | 17:31 |
| tosky_ | sorry for the possible duplicate | 17:31 |
| tosky_ | chandankumar: not just from os-cloud; from the information that tempestconf has; you could pass the credentials from the command line too | 17:31 |
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| hogepodge | ok, we good on this? | 17:33 |
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| tosky_ | I would say yes | 17:33 |
| chandankumar | tosky_: so if we are using os-cloud or sourcing keystonerc file, in both cases, if accounts.yaml is need we can create | 17:34 |
| chandankumar | yes we are good | 17:34 |
| tosky_ | chandankumar: yes, the source is not really relevant | 17:34 |
| hogepodge | #topic refstack | 17:35 |
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| chandankumar | thanks hogepodge tosky_ mguiney luzC_ for the inputs:-) | 17:35 |
| hogepodge | chandankumar: of course :-) | 17:36 |
| mguiney | o7 | 17:36 |
| hogepodge | some other refstack-clients patches in flight | 17:36 |
| hogepodge | luzC_: do you want to cover these? | 17:36 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564080/ Remove usage of tempest install_venv scripts | 17:36 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562956/ Refstack-client should use stestr for tempest testing | 17:37 |
| hogepodge | the first looks straight forward to me | 17:37 |
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| hogepodge | looks like the second needs a bit of testing, but also looks like it covers old and new cases | 17:39 |
| hogepodge | I can try to test next week once my summit obligations are out of the way (need to finish writing my talk...) | 17:40 |
| hogepodge | mguiney: if you have a chance to user test them that would be great. | 17:40 |
| mguiney | can do! | 17:41 |
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| hogepodge | On RefStack, new guideline rendering merged | 17:42 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547246/ New Capability Sources (merged) | 17:42 |
| hogepodge | We should decide if we want to release now with that capability (and major version bump, since we changed an undocumented but still public API), or wait until the subunit patches land | 17:42 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530681/ RefStack Subunit Upload API | 17:43 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538786/ RefStack Client | 17:43 |
| hogepodge | mguiney: any comments? | 17:43 |
| mguiney | still in flight, working through a few issues | 17:44 |
| mguiney | oh wait no, thats the other one | 17:45 |
| mguiney | im considering just modifying the existing subunit handling, rather than building a whole new thing | 17:45 |
| hogepodge | yeah? | 17:45 |
| mguiney | it ocxurs to me that a full rebuold isnt neccesaary | 17:45 |
| mguiney | i still need to finish teating that hypothesis, but we do have a subunit upload | 17:46 |
| mguiney | *testing. apologies, tiny keyboard | 17:46 |
| mguiney | but we already have a subunit upload, its just that it converts immediately to test result, which it shoulsnt newd to do, since we are switching over regardless | 17:47 |
| mguiney | *shouldnt need | 17:47 |
| hogepodge | ah, ok | 17:48 |
| hogepodge | I thought refstack-client converted it client side. Where is the code to handle it server side? | 17:50 |
| mguiney | its in the api utils | 17:50 |
| mguiney | the core coversion utilities, that is | 17:51 |
| mguiney | it makes more sense to convert it serverside, i think | 17:52 |
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| mguiney | otherwise youd have to send two separate payloads | 17:52 |
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| hogepodge | ok. can you send pointers to me? | 17:54 |
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| mguiney | plus, if we maintain the front facing part of the clientside util, there will be no appreciable change for end users | 17:54 |
| mguiney | absolutely. | 17:54 |
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| hogepodge | just a few minutes left | 17:55 |
| hogepodge | last items, npm update, still need to work out a strategy for getting our javascript house in order | 17:55 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559459/ | 17:56 |
| hogepodge | Once all of these patches are in, we're probably going to put the server into maintenance mode unless there's a need for new features. | 17:56 |
| mguiney | so the method suggested to me was to use webpack as well as one of its plugins | 17:56 |
| hogepodge | Ok, cool on that. | 17:57 |
| mguiney | it looks like that may not even be neccessary, i'm just hunting down a few JS errors that are causing rendering issues | 17:57 |
| hogepodge | That seems like a common solution | 17:57 |
| hogepodge | Last three minutes, who will be at the summit? | 17:57 |
| mguiney | i can try and make it work, but i'm a little baffled by the use of so heavy a tool to (as far as i can tell) simply copy the files into a more appropriate location | 17:58 |
| hogepodge | tosky_: chandankumar: luzC_ ? | 17:58 |
| hogepodge | mguiney: because why do something simple when you can use a framework to obscure it! ;-) | 17:58 |
| tosky | no summit for me | 17:58 |
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| mguiney | bummer | 18:00 |
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| hogepodge | ok, that's it. Thanks everyone! | 18:01 |
| hogepodge | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 15 18:01:56 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2018/refstack.2018-05-15-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2018/refstack.2018-05-15-17.00.txt | 18:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2018/refstack.2018-05-15-17.00.log.html | 18:02 |
| hogepodge | tosky: sorry you won't be there | 18:02 |
| mguiney | have a good week, all | 18:02 |
| tosky | o/ | 18:02 |
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