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| tbarron | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 28 15:00:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
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| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| tbarron | manila courtesy ping: gouthamr zhongjun xyang markstur toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc vgreen erlon | 15:00 |
| zhongjun__ | Hi | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:00 |
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| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
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| * tbarron waits a minute | 15:01 | |
| tbarron | Hi all | 15:01 |
| tbarron | between World Cup and a long weekend for many here in the US | 15:02 |
| tbarron | we may not have very many folks today | 15:02 |
| dustins | Slackers :) | 15:02 |
| tbarron | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
| tbarron | #Topic: Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| bswartz | Long weekend? | 15:03 |
| tbarron | I just want to make sure everyone saw the email from ttx w.r.t. PTG | 15:03 |
| tbarron | bswartz: well, 4 July is midweek next week so | 15:03 |
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| tbarron | people here tend to take off before, after, or on both ends | 15:03 |
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| * bswartz needs to take more vacation... | 15:04 | |
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| tbarron | #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131881.html | 15:04 |
| tbarron | There's a picture attached that shows the proposed schedule | 15:04 |
| tbarron | manila would meet Monday and Tuesday | 15:05 |
| tbarron | cinder, nova, tripleo, etc. Wed through Friday | 15:05 |
| tbarron | anyone have fundamental issues with that proposal? | 15:05 |
| ganso | was this change from what we had in Dublin (Tue and Fri) suggested? | 15:05 |
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| tbarron | ganso: I don't recall suggesting it, but honestly I prefer the continuity | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | The only downside I see is conflict with Monday cross-project sessions. In Dublin there weren't many sessions that were important for us | 15:06 |
| bswartz | And the set of people who care about cross project stuff at all is small | 15:06 |
| bswartz | So it seems like a good change | 15:07 |
| ganso | the advantage I see in Tue and Fri is that on Friday we can discuss things that we saw in other projects throughout the week | 15:07 |
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| tbarron | yeah, if we see some that are really important maybe we can take a break or something | 15:07 |
| tbarron | ganso: good point, so if we do Monday Tuesday then we'll need to make an effort to collect those issues and bring them to this meeting, #openstack-manila, dev mail list, etc. | 15:08 |
| bswartz | Or Friday afternoon when the Cinder people have worn themselves out | 15:08 |
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| tbarron | We're going to need to bring some stuff back from PTG anyways since not everyone will be able to attend in person | 15:08 |
| tbarron | Yeah, we could informally synchronize at the Friday afternoon cinder session | 15:09 |
| tbarron | though I suspect some of us will already be at the airport | 15:09 |
| tbarron | I'm not hearing any fundamental objections to Monday-Tuesday, right? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | +1 | 15:09 |
| tbarron | Main implication, plan to fly in Sunday or earlier, not Monday morning | 15:10 |
| tbarron | #topic: stable/branch gates | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": stable/branch gates (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:10 | |
| tbarron | They aren't as stable as we'd like so I'll make an etherpad with issues | 15:10 |
| tbarron | in pike the lvm voting job is failing | 15:11 |
| tbarron | I noticed it with | 15:11 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576227/ | 15:11 |
| tbarron | which led to a global requirements review for stable/pike | 15:12 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578558/ | 15:12 |
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| tbarron | This is a bit of a precedent setter but in discussion in the requirements meeting yesterday | 15:13 |
| tbarron | the req folks decided that with long term releases we're going to have to do stuff like this | 15:13 |
| tbarron | stable/<branch> requirements get frozen with everything working then | 15:13 |
| tbarron | over the lifetime of the branch the OS underneath may change with accompanying libraries | 15:14 |
| tbarron | libvirt in this case | 15:14 |
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| tbarron | so that requirements on stuff like libvirt-python have to change | 15:14 |
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| tbarron | Anyways, I'll send out an etherpad for gate issues and would like to engage all y'all's help keeping it up to date | 15:15 |
| tbarron | Anything else on this topic? | 15:15 |
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| tbarron | #topic review focus | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review focus (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:15 | |
| tbarron | as agreed last week I made a review focus etherpad and announced it on the dev list | 15:16 |
| tbarron | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-rocky-review-focus | 15:16 |
| zhongjun__ | Thanks | 15:16 |
| tbarron | Please use it to see what needs review and | 15:16 |
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| tbarron | sign up to review some of the reviews there | 15:16 |
| tbarron | bswartz: gouthamr thanks for doing review stuff this week | 15:17 |
| tbarron | also anyone else I may have missed | 15:17 |
| tbarron | Let's keep momentum so we don't have last-minute crunch. | 15:18 |
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| tbarron | Reminder: Milestone 3 is 26 July | 15:18 |
| bswartz | So I raised the question of functional tests for the metadata stuff | 15:18 |
| tbarron | feature freeze, driver merge deadline | 15:18 |
| bswartz | zhongjun__: you said that the patch was coming "soon" | 15:18 |
| bswartz | Can I assume that we don't plan to merge the medatachanges until that tempest plugin change is ready? | 15:19 |
| zhongjun__ | Yeah, “as soon as possible “ | 15:20 |
| zhongjun__ | I am coding | 15:20 |
| bswartz | If so I'll hold off on the +2 | 15:20 |
| tbarron | zhongjun__ is good at coding and chatting at the same time | 15:20 |
| bswartz | And I'll run the tests when they're ready | 15:20 |
| tbarron | sounds good | 15:21 |
| tbarron | anything else on this topic? | 15:21 |
| tbarron | #topic bugs | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:21 | |
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| tbarron | dustin you are up | 15:21 |
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| dustins | tbarron: Awesome, thanks | 15:22 |
| dustins | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:22 |
| dustins | Let's start with the stuff to follow up on | 15:23 |
| dustins | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1762900 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1762900 in Manila "tearDownClass manila_tempest_tests.tests.api.test_share_networks_negative.ShareNetworksNegativeTest Failed" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Tom Barron (tpb) | 15:23 |
| tbarron | As you see gouthamr followed up on this one | 15:24 |
| bswartz | Is gouthamr out today? | 15:24 |
| dustins | Yeah, was just gonna say | 15:24 |
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| tbarron | maybe just sleeping | 15:24 |
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| dustins | hehehe | 15:24 |
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| tbarron | anyways, this one is waiting for a response to his question from the bug submitter | 15:25 |
| dustins | We can come back to this next week then | 15:25 |
| * bswartz pokes gouthamr with a moderately sharp stick | 15:25 | |
| dustins | Doesn't seem critically urgent | 15:25 |
| tbarron | someone set its importance to High :D | 15:25 |
| tbarron | someone who likes tempest a lot | 15:26 |
| tbarron | but yeah we can move along | 15:26 |
| * dustins smacks forehead because past self once again was a dolt | 15:26 | |
| vkmc | hmm, if only we had that person | 15:26 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1760644 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1760644 in Manila "API reference contains mistakes" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc) | 15:26 |
| dustins | vkmc: I know you need more things to do :) | 15:26 |
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| vkmc | working on that, I'm afraid we need to go over the whole API to make sure docs are correct | 15:27 |
| vkmc | so I kinda left that aside | 15:27 |
| tbarron | I don't like this bug because it's too open-ended. | 15:27 |
| vkmc | yeah | 15:27 |
| tbarron | not clear when it would ever be fixed | 15:27 |
| vkmc | it's almost as broad as "fix the docs" | 15:27 |
| dustins | Heh, not wrong on all accounts | 15:28 |
| tbarron | we've merged several api doc fixes since it was opened | 15:28 |
| vkmc | I can submit a small fix for the two items the reporter mentions though | 15:28 |
| tbarron | vkmc: that seems reasonable and close the bug then with a comment to open new specific bugs as issues are encountered | 15:28 |
| vkmc | s/POST/GET and list share params | 15:29 |
| dustins | +1 | 15:29 |
| vkmc | but... Also, some request options have descriptions clearly copy-pasted from POST methods (e.g is_public). | 15:29 |
| vkmc | not sure how to address | 15:29 |
| dustins | Not exactly a small effort | 15:29 |
| vkmc | yeah... I was trying to look for an efficient way to check the whole api | 15:30 |
| dustins | vkmc: I'm willing to help you out with the audit/fixes/etc | 15:30 |
| tbarron | vkmc: just fix the couple obvious things and ask the submitter to open new bugs for anything else. | 15:30 |
| vkmc | but we need to go to the code directly | 15:30 |
| vkmc | tbarron++ | 15:30 |
| vkmc | sounds good | 15:30 |
| vkmc | dustins, awesome! | 15:30 |
| tbarron | and of course feel free to fix any other stuff you see while you are in there, but don't postpone fixing the obvious for more investigation | 15:31 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1755795 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1755795 in Manila "manila_tempest_tests.tests.scenario.test_share_basic_ops create share failed because share type not found" [Undecided,New] | 15:31 |
| dustins | The ever-popular "un-suck the scenario tests" one | 15:31 |
| bswartz | No no, this is the default share type one | 15:31 |
| bswartz | It's not related to scenario tests | 15:32 |
| dustins | That's not what the title says | 15:32 |
| bswartz | The test just needs to make sure it creates the share type it plans to use | 15:32 |
| bswartz | (and cleans it up after) | 15:32 |
| vkmc | oh the default share type one strikes again | 15:32 |
| dustins | But yes, you're right bswartz | 15:32 |
| tbarron | vkmc: can you update this bug to indicate that your review WIP addresses its concern? | 15:32 |
| vkmc | tbarron, sure thing | 15:32 |
| dustins | Thanks, vkmc | 15:33 |
| tbarron | maybe add Related-bug: tag in your commit msg for this bug too | 15:33 |
| vkmc | cool | 15:33 |
| dustins | Alright on to some new ones | 15:33 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1778971 | 15:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1778971 in OpenStack Global Requirements "stable/pike libvirt / python-libvirt incompatability" [Undecided,New] | 15:34 |
| tbarron | dustins: that's the one I linked to earlier, looks like requirements team is going to merge the fix | 15:34 |
| dustins | tbarron: Sweet | 15:34 |
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| dustins | So we can move on then | 15:35 |
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| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1778975 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1778975 in Manila "Quota Update API does not Require a Quota Value to Update" [Low,Triaged] | 15:35 |
| dustins | This came from gouthamr, vgreen and I messing around with the Quota APIs the other day | 15:35 |
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| gouthamr | o/ | 15:36 |
| dustins | It comes from an ambiguity in the API, where the quota update API lists all quota values that can be updated as optional parameters | 15:36 |
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| dustins | Which means that we can generate a request that has an empty body that does nothing | 15:37 |
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| dustins | Which isn't technically wrong, but can be confusing to users who see that a command succeeded that may or may not have side effected something | 15:37 |
| tbarron | dustins: do you think this empty-body-in-request issue is quota specific or may exist in other apis too? | 15:38 |
| dustins | Good question | 15:38 |
| dustins | Maybe something I can look out for while helping vkmc with the API doc clean up | 15:38 |
| tbarron | should we be erroring out or somehow warning on these? or do we figure that api users should just know what they are doing? | 15:39 |
| tbarron | dustins: can we get to this situation from the client or from horizon? | 15:39 |
| dustins | That's partially why I brought this up, it isn't technically wrong to issue a request with nothing to update, but could cause confusion | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | the json schema validation change may help us do the right thing here | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | dustins: it is wrong, if you're expecting it to do anything :) | 15:40 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: I'm going to try out that patch in the coming week ... | 15:40 |
| dustins | tbarron: Yeah, if you do "manila quota-update <project_id>" or "manila quota-update <project_id> --share-type <type>" it will not error out | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: yes, i started reviewing it with this bug in mind, but it looks like there are no follow on patches | 15:40 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: they're probably waiting for us to merge the first one | 15:41 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: which so far looks good to me but I just wanted to try it and see that it does no harm | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | oh, sure | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | yeah, we should have some tempest tests | 15:42 |
| * dustins grins | 15:42 | |
| tbarron | so are folks agreeing that empty body should produce an error? | 15:42 |
| dustins | I think it should, yes | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:42 |
| zhongjun__ | I agree | 15:43 |
| ganso | +1 | 15:43 |
| tbarron | ok, someone other than dustin please run the commands above and mark the bug confirmed | 15:43 |
| dustins | Sounds good | 15:43 |
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| tbarron | and we can use it as a guinea pig with the json schema validation | 15:44 |
| dustins | Even better :) | 15:44 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1777647 | 15:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777647 in Manila "gluster nfs job always fails" [Medium,New] | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | #action: gouthamr confirm LP 1778975 | 15:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1778975 in Manila "Quota Update API does not Require a Quota Value to Update" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778975 | 15:45 |
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| gouthamr | what's gluster | 15:45 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: thanks for the AI | 15:45 |
| tbarron | on the gluster issue I was hoping to entice some of the folks who are using it to fix | 15:46 |
| tbarron | our gate job | 15:46 |
| bswartz | Do we know who those folks are? | 15:46 |
| tbarron | the glusterfs devstack plugin tries to download a version of gluster that is no longer in the PPA | 15:46 |
| tbarron | way old | 15:46 |
| tbarron | bswartz: well we know China Mobile has been doing great work with gluster in their own fork | 15:47 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: but otherwise I don't know who | 15:47 |
| bswartz | Why a fork? Is there a reason not to collaborate with upstream gluster? | 15:48 |
| tbarron | so dustins not sure what to do about this one atm | 15:48 |
| tbarron | bswartz: we politely asked that question at summit | 15:48 |
| bswartz | If they do upstream work too, then it's reasonable for them to fix the PPA and fix the driver | 15:48 |
| bswartz | If not, then perhaps gluster support is not going to continue in the future | 15:48 |
| tbarron | bswartz: currently they don't appear to be authorized to propose their work upstream though as individuals they would like to do so. | 15:49 |
| tbarron | bswartz: yes, that is the issue | 15:49 |
| zhongjun__ | As I know. They may don’t have enough time to fix upstream bug | 15:49 |
| dustins | tbarron: I guess we can leave it be for now? I don't know of anyone doing upstream stuff with Gluster at the moment | 15:49 |
| bswartz | Oh it's a legal problem | 15:49 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: dunno exactly why, legal or time or resources or ... | 15:49 |
| bswartz | dustins: we can't just leave a job that fails constantly | 15:49 |
| tbarron | I think lots of folks find it more economical short term to just do their own forks rather than deal with the hassle of upstream reviews | 15:50 |
| bswartz | Turn the job off, and paint a scarlet letter on the driver | 15:50 |
| dustins | bswartz: Right, so can we just kill the job? | 15:50 |
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| tbarron | dustins: bswartz: eventually we'll do that, just want to keep options open a little while | 15:50 |
| tbarron | I'd love to have another production quality open source | 15:51 |
| bswartz | It's extremely rude to the rest of the openstack community to consume resources running something that's broken and we don't intend to fix | 15:51 |
| tbarron | software defined back end than ceph | 15:51 |
| tbarron | W.r.t. scarlet letters there are a number of back ends that should get them. | 15:51 |
| bswartz | tbarron: +1 | 15:51 |
| tbarron | What do folks think about adding a WARNING at init time for drivers that don't ever pass CI | 15:52 |
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| tbarron | we have decided not to kick them out of the codebase | 15:52 |
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| tbarron | but warning would be fair I think. | 15:52 |
| bswartz | I'd prefer docs in the source code | 15:52 |
| bswartz | Warnings will create backport issues if the status ever changes | 15:52 |
| tbarron | ah, good point I think | 15:53 |
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| tbarron | but we are digressing from current #topic, we can return to the digression in a future meeting | 15:53 |
| bswartz | It's sufficient to say, "Nobody is paid to maintain it, we believe it's broken. Use are your own risk" | 15:53 |
| tbarron | dustins: more bugs? | 15:54 |
| dustins | Yup! | 15:54 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1777551 | 15:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777551 in Manila "all_tenants value is not handled correctly" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to jiaopengju (pj-jiao) | 15:54 |
| bswartz | s/Use are/Use at/ | 15:54 |
| tbarron | there is a fix proposed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576332/ | 15:55 |
| tbarron | and active review | 15:55 |
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| * tbarron thanks gouthamr | 15:55 | |
| dustins | So this one's in progress it seems | 15:55 |
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| * dustins updates bug | 15:56 | |
| dustins | Alright, next one | 15:56 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1772029 | 15:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1772029 in Manila "ganesha library: update of export counter and rados object url index object racy" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Ramana Raja (rraja) | 15:56 |
| tbarron | this one is in progress and will be addressed in the ceph_volume_client outside openstack proper | 15:57 |
| tbarron | i'll mark it in progress | 15:57 |
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| dustins | tbarron: already did | 15:57 |
| tbarron | oh ganesha library will also need an update, but after ceph_volume_client | 15:58 |
| tbarron | dustins: ty | 15:58 |
| dustins | Of course! | 15:58 |
| dustins | Think that's all for me today, the other bugs in the list already have assignees | 15:58 |
| * dustins updates their status | 15:59 | |
| tbarron | #topic open discussion | 15:59 |
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| tbarron | time check | 15:59 |
| tbarron | just note anything and we can go to | 15:59 |
| tbarron | #openstack-manila to continue as | 15:59 |
| bswartz | meeting next week? | 15:59 |
| tbarron | needed | 15:59 |
| bswartz | yes/no/maybe? | 15:59 |
| tbarron | bswartz: are you on holiday thursday? | 15:59 |
| tbarron | anyone else? | 15:59 |
| bswartz | unknown | 16:00 |
| tbarron | I plan to be here if there are others. | 16:00 |
| bswartz | No plans at this time, but I'll take some time off TBD | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | i might be off too.. tbd | 16:00 |
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| tbarron | kk | 16:00 |
| tbarron | let's go to #openstack-manila | 16:00 |
| tbarron | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 28 16:00:40 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-06-28-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-06-28-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-06-28-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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