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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 27 09:00:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Rollcall | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
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| masahito | o/ | 09:01 |
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| bertys | o/ | 09:01 |
| priteau | Hi masahito and bertys | 09:01 |
| priteau | tetsuro: Are you here too? | 09:02 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:02 |
| priteau | We decided that today we would do some code review | 09:03 |
| priteau | Let's do AOB first | 09:03 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:03 | |
| priteau | Anything to discuss before we start discussing reviews, which might take the full hour? | 09:04 |
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| priteau | As mentioned last week, we will cancel next week's meeting due to travel of masahito and tetsuro | 09:04 |
| priteau | If nothing let's start with the reviews | 09:06 |
| priteau | #topic Code review | 09:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:06 | |
| priteau | In openstack/blazar, the two main patch series are resource-availability-api (resource allocation blueprint) and placement | 09:07 |
| masahito | sorry, I have to leave few mins. please start tetsuro's patches. | 09:08 |
| priteau | Otherwise we have various small fixes. | 09:08 |
| priteau | tetsuro has only one pending patch now, it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584744/ | 09:08 |
| tetsuro | I saw your comments, priteau. Will submit another patch set. | 09:09 |
| priteau | I reviewed it yesterday, I think maybe a code path were we need to delete the inventory was missed, but I am not sure | 09:09 |
| tetsuro | Your point is fair. | 09:09 |
| tetsuro | Good catch. Thanks. | 09:09 |
| priteau | OK. While masahito is away, let's look at smaller patches. | 09:11 |
| masahito | I'm back :-) | 09:11 |
| priteau | Ah great. | 09:11 |
| priteau | We're looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/blazar+branch:master+topic:bp/resource-availability-api | 09:11 |
| priteau | I reviewed it yesterday and, while the code approach is good, I have concerns about the format of the API response | 09:12 |
| masahito | got it. | 09:12 |
| masahito | The sample response is this: http://logs.openstack.org/72/584272/8/check/build-openstack-api-ref/69d2e28/html/v1/index.html?expanded=list-allocations-detail#list-allocations | 09:13 |
| priteau | To summarize, the response looks like this: http://logs.openstack.org/72/584272/8/check/build-openstack-api-ref/69d2e28/html/v1/index.html?expanded=list-allocations-detail#list-allocations | 09:13 |
| priteau | I am thinking it would make more sense for it to look like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/736064/ | 09:14 |
| priteau | What changed: inverted "allocations" <-> "reservations", and changed the main "id" to "host_id" | 09:15 |
| priteau | With my proposed API response format, when you look at the "reservations" list, the "id" fields are actually reservation IDs, so I think it makes more sense | 09:16 |
| priteau | A more minor comment is that in the "Get Allocations" case (http://logs.openstack.org/72/584272/8/check/build-openstack-api-ref/69d2e28/html/v1/index.html?expanded=list-allocations-detail,get-allocations-detail#get-allocations), we do a GET /reservations (plural), but get back an object saying "reservation" (singular) | 09:17 |
| masahito | And your suggest is changing the URI to /v1/oshost/allocations, right? | 09:17 |
| priteau | Yes, change the endpoint name as well | 09:18 |
| priteau | What do you think? | 09:18 |
| masahito | Make sense to me. | 09:19 |
| priteau | Any though on the naming of the host ID field? Could be host_id or computehost_id. I don't know if we have any existing reference in the API already. | 09:20 |
| masahito | Ah, AFAIK you have proposed another allocation API for USER API at Denver PTG? | 09:20 |
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| priteau | Are you talking about the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/query-reservation-candidates blueprint? | 09:21 |
| masahito | To match the host APIs, what about just "host" for the key? | 09:21 |
| priteau | "host" could work as well. | 09:22 |
| priteau | In the host API we never mention the "compute" part, so we shouldn't use "compute" actually. | 09:23 |
| masahito | No, this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/reservation-consumers-api | 09:23 |
| priteau | reservation-consumers would be under the lease API endpoint | 09:24 |
| masahito | This bp uses consumers not allocation. Never mind, it was my fault. | 09:24 |
| priteau | I need to spec it. I don't think it is related though. | 09:25 |
| priteau | If you're happy with the proposed change of API response, would you be OK updating your patches? The rest of the code looks good so I can approve quickly. | 09:26 |
| masahito | Of course. | 09:26 |
| priteau | tetsuro, bertys: any comment about this? | 09:27 |
| masahito | priteau: Now that I'm thinking about it, 'host' or 'host_id' is not better because it can't be applied to network resource. | 09:28 |
| priteau | Right. It's under /os-hosts though. But we can make it abstract enough so that the same client code can be used to parse the results. | 09:29 |
| priteau | resource_id? | 09:29 |
| masahito | Great idea! | 09:29 |
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| priteau | With API documentation explaining that in this case, resource_id == host ID | 09:30 |
| masahito | It really make sense. | 09:30 |
| priteau | OK, I think we are in aggreement. | 09:31 |
| priteau | *agreement* | 09:31 |
| masahito | 1. change the endpoint to allocations, 2. follow the response body to http://paste.openstack.org/show/736064/ except 'host_id', and 3. use resource_id instead of host_id in the body. | 09:33 |
| priteau | There's also the issue of "allocations" vs "allocation" in the "Get allocations on a host." case. I am unsure what is the best approach for this. | 09:35 |
| priteau | Maybe it's the endpoint that should be v1/os-hosts/{host_id}/allocation? | 09:36 |
| masahito | It looks like there is only one allocation on the host. | 09:36 |
| masahito | Another idea is removing 'resource_id' key from the response because host_id is already in the URI. | 09:37 |
| masahito | like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/736065/ | 09:39 |
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| priteau | It's a tricky one. The way you've originally proposed it, it looks similar to the lease and host APIs. | 09:40 |
| masahito | that's true... | 09:41 |
| priteau | I guess it could be considered as one allocation of a hosts to many reservations. | 09:42 |
| priteau | bertys: tetsuro: any thoughts on this API? | 09:44 |
| priteau | If you're happy to change the endpoint to v1/os-hosts/{host_id}/allocation (since it would return a single allocation dictionary), let's do that | 09:46 |
| priteau | Only 15 minutes left in the meeting so we should discuss other patches. | 09:46 |
| priteau | List of Blazar master patches that can be merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/blazar+is:open+label:verified+branch:master+is:mergeable | 09:47 |
| priteau | Easy one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620136/ | 09:48 |
| priteau | Noticed it yesterday in logs, we've moved the option in config but not updated the DevStack plugin | 09:48 |
| masahito | Thank. LGTM. If others doesn't have objections, I merge it. | 09:49 |
| priteau | tetsuro: Is this something that you are implementing already? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578641/ | 09:51 |
| priteau | masahito: There's a +2 from bertys already, go ahead. | 09:51 |
| tetsuro | No I've not yet started this spec. | 09:51 |
| priteau | tetsuro: Is the spec still compatible with your approach, i.e. would you give it a +1? | 09:52 |
| priteau | I haven't looked at it in a long time | 09:52 |
| tetsuro | I'll give it a +1 | 09:52 |
| tetsuro | this is compatible with what I'm doing now. | 09:53 |
| priteau | OK, great. I will give it another look as well | 09:53 |
| priteau | Mutable config patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585847/ | 09:54 |
| priteau | I tested it yesterday and found issues, but now realize that the issues already exist without the patch | 09:54 |
| priteau | blazar-manager doesn't like receiving SIGHUP. Maybe an eventlet issue? | 09:55 |
| priteau | I will open a Launchpad bug. | 09:55 |
| priteau | Another easy patch, just to clear the queue: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619464/ | 09:56 |
| masahito | I guess RPCServer in blazar.utils.service should need to have SIGHUP signal handler. | 09:56 |
| priteau | OK, thanks for the pointer. We will need to look into it. In the meantime I think we can merge the mutable config patch. | 10:00 |
| priteau | We're running out of time. I think most patches now have a -1 with action to update them, so we made good progress. | 10:00 |
| masahito | priteau: I'll update the floating ip spec in this week. please review it. | 10:01 |
| priteau | Thanks masahito | 10:01 |
| priteau | No meeting next week, then code review again the week after (December 11) | 10:01 |
| priteau | Thanks everyone! | 10:01 |
| priteau | Have a good trip | 10:01 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 27 10:01:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-11-27-09.00.html | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-11-27-09.00.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-11-27-09.00.log.html | 10:02 |
| masahito | thanks, bye | 10:02 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 27 16:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 16:00 |
| wxy| | o/ | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | we can give folks a couple minutes | 16:01 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 16:02 |
| jdennis | jdennis: o/ | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | alright - let's go ahead and get started | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:03 | |
| lbragstad | #info we're just over a month away from milestone-2 | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | reminder that milestone-2 is going to mark specification freeze | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | and feature proposal freeze is only a couple weeks after that | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | there are still several specifications up for review that we're planning on implementing this release | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | please take a look if you have time | 16:04 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599491/ | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541903/ | 16:05 |
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| lbragstad | and a bunch of those ones for the edge/multi-region/federated use cases we talked about in Berlin | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | also | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | #info keystoneclient-devstack-functional is failing | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | frickler brought this to us this morning | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | it's been failing consistently for some time | 16:06 |
| gagehugo | mysql password incorrect? | 16:06 |
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| lbragstad | #link http://logs.openstack.org/39/605539/24/check/keystoneclient-devstack-functional/9fff540/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-11-27_04_39_26_939041 | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | yeah - it's strange | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | I noticed other projects have similar scripts, nearly identical actually | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | but they their functional jobs aren't failing | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | but their* | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | so it might be something with zuul + how we set things up in keystone | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | anyway - wanted to plug it here in case it piqued anyone' | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | anyone's interest* | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #topic Keystone as an IdP | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone as an IdP (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:09 | |
| lbragstad | i'm not sure kmalloc is around | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | but the plan is to go through all the bits for this in more detail, since it was discussed at length in Berlin | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | and there are more than a handful of new specs related to it | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | we'll circle back if kmalloc hops on | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | #topic default roles and system-scope progress | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "default roles and system-scope progress (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:10 | |
| lbragstad | this is one of the bigger initiatives we're tackling this release | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | i apologize for all the IRC bot and bug spam recently | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | but I broke everything out into smaller bug reports, hoping that it will help enable people to pick things up | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | O/ | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | so they don't feel pressured into committing to a whole pile of work | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | they can just pick up a couple things here or there if they have time, but would still be a huge help | 16:11 |
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| lbragstad | ultimately, i created bugs for all keystone policies/apis that aren't currently using the defaults roles work hrybacki did in rocky | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=default-roles | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | here. | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | sorry | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | no worries - i'll wrap up my topic quick and hand the floor over | 16:12 |
| ayoung | works for me | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | no arch diagram that will be next week. | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | here is what an example fix for the default role bugs looks like | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | but we can go over stuff otherwise. | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620156/1 | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | it's mostly tests that showcase the behaviors for each scope | 16:13 |
| ayoung | there are some subtlties on the implied roles one, I added a comment. Lets us keep a place for those convos, so, I like the smaller bug reports | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | i also have other reports dedicated to system-scope gaps | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=system-scope | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | ideally - they go hand-in-hand | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | but depending on the API, there isn't a dependency between those two bugs if they affect the same API | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | just trying to make sure we track how much work it takes to fix all this | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have comments, questions, or concerns about system-scope or default roles work? | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | or wants to jump in and pick up one or two? | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | ;) | 16:16 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, we are ok with breaking people with these, right? | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | break people how? | 16:16 |
| ayoung | changing roles for APIs will not match the old policies. | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | yeah - so we have tooling in oslo.policy to handle that for us | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | and make it graceful for operators | 16:17 |
| ayoung | Hopefully in a "it not longer works" way as oppposed to "oops we let something else in" way | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | my goal is to be explicit with the former | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | as long as we support the model of: [override-new] > [override-old] > (DEFAULT NEW || DEFAULT OLD) | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | we should be 100% ok | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | so it's *really* clear what we support by default from an authorization perspective upstream | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | and not letting random stuff fall through | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | just adding additional permissions that operators can opt into | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | (for transition) | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614195/ should help with that | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | and then it becomes Override NEw > Default New (eventually) | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | same with #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613635/ | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | once transition is done | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | long view. | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | we'll also need #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611443/ | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc those cases might be addressed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614195/5/oslo_policy/tests/test_policy.py | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: i'll check | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | thanks | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | i want to be sure | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | :) | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | ultimately, everything under keystone.tests.unit.protection.v3 should explicitly test each scope against each default role | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | i need to leave as soon as the meeting is over btw. | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | ok - that's about all i had for this | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | feel free to ping me if you'd like to chip in on a couple of those bugs, or have questions | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | otherwise, i have fixes for several of them up (i need to update the branch) | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bug/1788415 | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | and they are all dependent on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605539/ | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | once ^ merges, I'll rebase them | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | any other questions? | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | ... "lance, where do users come from?" :P | 16:25 |
| ayoung | Are we going to go into this detail for the other services? | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | HTTP 403 | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | ayoung how do you mean? | 16:25 |
| ayoung | Nova | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: we will provide help as we did for in-code policy | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | like helping them consume these changes? | 16:25 |
| ayoung | Neutron and so on. Bug reports for the APIS? | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | i'll likely leave that to each project | 16:26 |
| ayoung | a way to have the convos about what scope a given API should really have? | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | the plan is to support and make it a community goal | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | similar to how we did policy-in-code | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | right | 16:26 |
| ayoung | Yeah...and GLance will get around to it. | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | glance needs help | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | it is probably a place we need to explicitly step up | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | before we can do that we'll need to have it working in keystone first | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | =/ | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | but i think the order is Keystone, Nova, Community Goal... and supporting glance | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | jokke and i had a conversation about how policy-in-code works | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | i think he's up to speed now | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | glance will get there | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | he told me a couple days ago that he's going to poke with the changes locally | 16:27 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501360/ Still -1. I'll rework that | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | they might get policy-in-code and new defaults in short succession | 16:27 |
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| ayoung | Cool. This really needs to be in across the board to be usable | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | that is the plan. | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | i agree | 16:29 |
| ayoung | We need a banana test in Tempest | 16:29 |
| ayoung | create a "banana" role and assign it. It should not be able to do anything | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | gmann is working on the system-scope stuff from the tempest side | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: sorryk, but our new super-admin role is named banana | 16:30 |
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| kmalloc | /s | 16:30 |
| ayoung | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CjxR7w-1iHA/UvfAaZCCr6I/AAAAAAAAJtk/G-Knih6Ze7M/s400/We%2520Are%2520in%2520a%2520Book%2520Mo%2520Willems%25202.jpg | 16:31 |
| ayoung | You guys don't know Elephant and Piggy. yet. | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | anything else before we move on? | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | #topic Keystone as an IdP Proxy | 16:32 |
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| lbragstad | kmalloc you're up | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | ok | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | quick note: I am working on an architecture diagrame | 16:32 |
| knikolla | awesome | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | it should be done for the next meeting. but with holiday/travel/other things... it's a bit delayed | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | cc ildikov ^ | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | it will cover the forward looking goals I see for Keystone, specifically how it works as an IDP and an IDP Proxy | 16:33 |
| ayoung | Why do we call it a Proxy? | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | officially that is the wrong term | 16:34 |
| knikolla | broker? | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | i am trying to reword that to be Broker | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | yes | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | because the idea was to shuffle identities between formats | 16:34 |
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| ayoung | And not just IdP? | 16:34 |
| ayoung | Ah | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | it's some rewiring in my head to keep saying Identity Broker | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | so if you have a google user | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | we will be a full featured IDP but also have the ability to broker from one form to another | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | IDP[s] -> Keystone -> SP[s] | 16:35 |
| ayoung | Translation from SAML to OIDC and so on? | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | you can use keystone to convert whatever google gives you to prove your identity, to something else | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | yes | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: the SPs will consume whatever they consume, keystone will broker from one form to that form for the SP. | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | or the *best* form for the SP in the case it supports many | 16:35 |
| knikolla | right now we already do that but with SAML ECP. | 16:35 |
| ayoung | Adapter | 16:35 |
| knikolla | for the k2k pieces. | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | the industry(ish) term is broker for this | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | well - we do have a great track record for naming things | 16:36 |
| ayoung | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adapter_pattern | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | it is an adapter pattern | 16:36 |
| ayoung | But...Broker is right | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | yep. | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | 100% | 16:36 |
| ayoung | because we are not making an Adapter, we are converting one to the other | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | so, the core bits we need from today. | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | 1) Auth will be split from CRUD (backlogged SPEC) | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | this is so our well-defined endpoints for auth are located at /auth/XXXX | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | /v3/auth will reamin | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | remain* | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | no one will be broken on that front | 16:37 |
| ayoung | But...we are going to add additional auth attributes in addition to the original assertion. Specifically, we add the Keystone role assignment data. THey can ignore it, but they can consume it, too, right? | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | the goal is here 2 fold: let us iterate on crud independant of auth *and* auth can be exposed in isolation from crud for auth to the SPs | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: correct. we will pass through but also allow for applying keystone permissions directly | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: that is the "virtual organization" parts. | 16:38 |
| ayoung | Cool. This is going to explode on us, but, I think, in a good way | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | the second bit we need (2) | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | is the principal object | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | this is to replace shadow users. | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | and be fully featured | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | hopefully we can just extend shadow users | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | keystone will maintain a single consistent user object that many AuthN sources can hook onto | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | it is either "extend and fix shadow users" or "replace shadow users and drop shadow users" | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | it looks to be about the same amount of work | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i just hope its the first and not the second :) | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | and i worry how deep / odd shadow users is due to where it left off | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | Key bits: Users are principals | 16:41 |
| kmalloc | Groups are groupings of principals | 16:41 |
| kmalloc | app creds are principals | 16:41 |
| kmalloc | projects are *most likely* a group of principals | 16:41 |
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| ayoung | app creds contain a principal and a delegation | 16:41 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: ++ | 16:41 |
| lbragstad | i think the next step in that work is to grok the current state of things | 16:42 |
| kmalloc | the key is normalizing the data structure and making sure we have a clear object that AuthN hooks into, a source of AuthN will be the SQL (password) backend or LDAP backend | 16:42 |
| lbragstad | and see if we can trace steps that rderose and dstanek were workings towards | 16:42 |
| kmalloc | these will not implement the entire identity driver anymore, they will be a source of Auth hooked onto the user principal | 16:42 |
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| kmalloc | any questions so far? I can keep moving on the rest of the bits needed | 16:43 |
| ayoung | Are we going to support a basi-cauyth mechansim under /auth? | 16:43 |
| ayoung | basic-auth | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: the plan would be to be more fully featured on that front | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | and implement as much as we can directly in python | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | we may offload to a web server/module | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | ayoung like #link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_access_authentication ? | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | but we should implement the functionality 100% in python where possible | 16:44 |
| ayoung | Yeah, basic auth would have to be Python | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: yeah, both basic and digest mode. | 16:45 |
| ayoung | and work based on a GET | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | part of that deal is there will be a UI added to keystone. | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | we are a standalone IDP, deployers need a way to interact with keystone | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | in isolation of horizon etc | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | we will continue support for horizon (of course) | 16:46 |
| ayoung | "All My plans are coming together" | 16:46 |
| kmalloc | BASIC AUTH, SAML, OIDC, Digest+Basic will work | 16:46 |
| kmalloc | we will also implement support for U2F/FIDO in the ui for Multi-factor Auth | 16:46 |
| kmalloc | the UI will be something akin to React based (may change the framework) | 16:47 |
| kmalloc | the goal is to strictly reference the API not be a layer inbetween with more python (e.g. django) | 16:47 |
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| ayoung | Do we have an HTML renderer for Flask? | 16:48 |
| kmalloc | there will be discussions about a V4 crud api along the way for supporting the UI because we may want to restructure how the API works for this (breaking changes, but mostly cruft cleanup/re-homing) | 16:48 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: flask easily supports it | 16:48 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: we already use it in a couple places, notably in 404 errors | 16:48 |
| kmalloc | unrouted-404 errors | 16:49 |
| kmalloc | and some other cases (ec2) | 16:49 |
| kmalloc | the V4 CRUD api will be discussed one the core bits of Keystone are worked through | 16:49 |
| kmalloc | once* | 16:50 |
| kmalloc | that would be in support of the UI. restructuring the API under flask is much faster if we decide to do this. | 16:50 |
| kmalloc | a couple additional security bits will be needed | 16:50 |
| ayoung | Excellent | 16:50 |
| kmalloc | JWT (for full OIDC support) | 16:50 |
| kmalloc | yes i classify that as security | 16:50 |
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| lbragstad | <shameless-plug>The jwt stuff is up for review along with the specification</shameless-plug> | 16:51 |
| kmalloc | i want to fully support the timestamp protocol as well for signing when things occur (creation/cadf/tokens) as well | 16:51 |
| kmalloc | we will need to look at the at-rest data storage in SQL and ensure we are being good at PII, and can support PCI-DSS/NIST recommendations as well as cover GDPR concerns | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | time check - 7 minutes left | 16:52 |
| kmalloc | thanks | 16:52 |
| knikolla | this, adjutant, and athenz makes me so happy. | 16:53 |
| ayoung | kmalloc, you do all your keystone development in containers, right? Do you have a document contributors can follow? Should we get that into keystone/doc/source? | 16:53 |
| kmalloc | we will finally need to add much much much better autoprovisioning | 16:53 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: i plan to get that codified into git (the dev docs) | 16:54 |
| ayoung | ++ | 16:54 |
| kmalloc | and yes, i use containers for everything | 16:54 |
| * lbragstad has ideas for that based on what penick was talking about | 16:54 | |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: exactly | 16:54 |
| ayoung | I'll revisit. Its been a year | 16:54 |
| ayoung | or more | 16:54 |
| kmalloc | so, in Stein: I want these things to land | 16:54 |
| kmalloc | 1) Auth support at /auth | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - i was going to wait for recordings to get posted for posting by summary | 16:54 |
| knikolla | with the above things aligning with what i need to get done for the MOC, y'all get 60% of my time. | 16:55 |
| lbragstad | but that's going to be a bit, so i'll just publish today and update later | 16:55 |
| kmalloc | 2) principal work (shadow users rework) | 16:55 |
| knikolla | up from 20% | 16:55 |
| kmalloc | 3) Federation support (brokering) changes | 16:55 |
| kmalloc | 4) JWT | 16:55 |
| kmalloc | (no particular order) | 16:55 |
| kmalloc | autoprovisioning becomes a #5 if we can | 16:56 |
| kmalloc | v4 API, UI, Timestamp protocol, those will likely be post Stein | 16:56 |
| kmalloc | we will also need a LOT of cleanup on our internal SQL store. | 16:56 |
| kmalloc | oh one last bit we need to clearly work out | 16:57 |
| kmalloc | E-Tag/Cache-Control | 16:57 |
| ayoung | Videos are slow to land this summit. Something is not working right in the process. Used to be up during the week of. | 16:57 |
| kmalloc | which comes post UI | 16:57 |
| kmalloc | so i see 3-4 specs in Stein. | 16:57 |
| kmalloc | still to do. | 16:58 |
| kmalloc | JWT is almost done, so that is easy | 16:58 |
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| knikolla | kmalloc: i can take on some of that during office hours. together with polishing the renewable app creds specs. | 16:58 |
| kmalloc | cool. | 16:58 |
| knikolla | so let's sync up | 16:58 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:58 |
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| kmalloc | oh yeah refreshable app creds needed too | 16:58 |
| kmalloc | haha | 16:59 |
| lbragstad | one minute left if anyone has anything | 16:59 |
| kmalloc | i am AFK for a few hours post meeting | 16:59 |
| kmalloc | fyi (knikolla) | 16:59 |
| kmalloc | not IDP related | 16:59 |
| kmalloc | we should explore gabbi for functional tests | 16:59 |
| kmalloc | cdent has done a good chunk of work on it. | 16:59 |
| kmalloc | it's awesome. | 16:59 |
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| kmalloc | gyee: you're off by an hour :P DST! | 16:59 |
| lbragstad | alright - let's wrap up | 16:59 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming, all | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | reminder office hours in -keystone | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-11-27-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-11-27-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
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