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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 09:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
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| priteau | Hello tetsuro | 09:01 |
| tetsuro | Hi | 09:01 |
| priteau | Is masahito going to join? | 09:02 |
| tetsuro | No idea. Let me ping to him in our NTT internal chat. | 09:02 |
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| bertys | o/ | 09:03 |
| priteau | Hi bertys | 09:03 |
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| priteau | We're waiting for masahito | 09:05 |
| priteau | Today we're supposed to do code review | 09:07 |
| priteau | Anyone has comments on the floating IP reservations spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609302/ | 09:08 |
| priteau | I am very happy to see this new approach that Masahito learned at the summit | 09:08 |
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| masahito | hi. sorry late. | 09:09 |
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| priteau | Hello masahito | 09:10 |
| priteau | We can start! | 09:10 |
| priteau | #topic Code review | 09:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:10 | |
| priteau | I was asking comments about the floating IP reservation spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609302/ | 09:11 |
| priteau | I reviewed the diff against patch set #4, the new approach sounds great to me | 09:11 |
| priteau | I added a small comment about what we store in the DB | 09:12 |
| masahito | One network can have multi subnets. That's why I added column in the floating ip table. | 09:13 |
| masahito | So I'm wondering whether the floating IP APIs and floating ip resource_type should have subnet_id or not. | 09:14 |
| priteau | Do we need it for allocation / deallocation later? | 09:16 |
| priteau | I also see `subnet_id` is not in any of the API queries and requests, does it need to be included? | 09:18 |
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| tetsuro | masa says he's disconnected due to the network | 09:20 |
| tetsuro | he's at Kubernetes summit | 09:20 |
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| priteau | Oh, I didn't realize he was on travel this week too | 09:21 |
| priteau | He's a busy guy :-) | 09:21 |
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| masahito | sorry, disconnected. | 09:22 |
| priteau | masahito: If network is not good we can continue discussion on Gerrit. I think the new approach is very good and we're just discussing implementation details now. | 09:22 |
| masahito | priteau: thanks. | 09:22 |
| priteau | I also took a quick look to your resource allocation series but some patches are not passing tests, looks like they still need to be updated? | 09:23 |
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| priteau | We lost him again :( | 09:24 |
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| masahito | I try to create a PoC in this year and push the patch to the gerrit. | 09:24 |
| priteau | Sounds great | 09:24 |
| priteau | Not sure if you saw my other message | 09:24 |
| priteau | I also took a quick look to your resource allocation series but some patches are not passing tests, looks like they still need to be updated? | 09:24 |
| masahito | I'm seeing the meeting logs. | 09:25 |
| masahito | looks like so. I'll update it again. | 09:27 |
| priteau | Thank you | 09:27 |
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| priteau | We have one open patch from tetsuro, I left a comment on it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584744/ | 09:29 |
| priteau | tetsuro: What are your thoughts on the issue? | 09:30 |
| tetsuro | Looking, will have a comment back or have a new PS. | 09:31 |
| priteau | Thank you | 09:31 |
| priteau | masahito: I know you have an issue with this small patch on python-blazarclient, but would be OK with merging it so we can clear the pending patch queue? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591971/ | 09:32 |
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| priteau | Easy +2s: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621859 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621849/ | 09:35 |
| priteau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621925/1 | 09:36 |
| tetsuro | About https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584744/, this seems to be my mistake, will submit another PS soon. | 09:36 |
| priteau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622566/1 | 09:36 |
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| priteau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622556/ | 09:36 |
| priteau | Those are all openstack-dev -> openstack-discuss patches, please approve so we can get them out of the way | 09:37 |
| priteau | Thanks tetsuro, I am looking forward to your next patch | 09:37 |
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| priteau | It would be good to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621488/ as well. Asmita has been contributing to Blazar, she need to encourage it! | 09:38 |
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| masahito | I've reviewed the ML change pathces. | 09:44 |
| priteau | Thanks masahito | 09:45 |
| bertys | priteau: regarding 621488, I will check as I remember having some discussion with OSA team few months ago | 09:45 |
| priteau | OK, thanks bertys | 09:47 |
| priteau | I think we've reviewed most of the open patches that are passing Zuul checks | 09:48 |
| priteau | Anything else to discuss? | 09:51 |
| priteau | masahito: I didn't realize you were on travel and just saw that you are in Seattle! It's very late for you, you should go! | 09:52 |
| priteau | I think we can end the meeting early for this week. Thanks for joining! | 09:54 |
| masahito | I completely forgot telling you all I'm in travel. Never mind, I'm in jet lag :-) | 09:54 |
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| priteau | Enjoy the conference! | 09:55 |
| priteau | That's all for today folks, let's continue on Gerrit. | 09:57 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 09:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 09:57:04 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-12-11-09.00.html | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-12-11-09.00.txt | 09:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-12-11-09.00.log.html | 09:57 |
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| masahito | priteau: thank. | 09:58 |
| masahito | bye | 09:58 |
| priteau | Good bye | 09:58 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 16:00:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
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| lbragstad | we'll give folks a few more minutes to join | 16:02 |
| * kmalloc snoozes. | 16:02 | |
| * kmalloc keeps hitting the snooze button. | 16:02 | |
| * kmalloc waits for meeting to get going. | 16:02 | |
| cmurphy | o/ i'm in another meeting this hour :( | 16:03 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: boo-urns | 16:03 |
| gagehugo | 2x meetings = 2x fun | 16:04 |
| wxy| | o/ | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | gagehugo: i hear you like meetings in your meetings.... | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | alright - we have a pretty light agenda anyway, so we can get started | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | #topic Previous Action Items | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous Action Items (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:05 | |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | last week we talked about documenting the admin role deletion discussion we talked about | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | i guess that was me | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | i haven't done that yet | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | ack | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - i've never really kept track of action items from previous meetings, explicitly | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | so this is kinda new for me, too | 16:06 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy feel free to ping if you need a hand | 16:07 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: if you have free cycles feel free to take it ;) otherwise i'll get to it soonish | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | i'll put a reminder on my calendar for the end of the week | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | hopefully i can chew threw some of my work by then and free up some cycles | 16:09 |
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| lbragstad | if you haven't taken a crack at it by friday-ish, i'll see what i can at least get started in review | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | anything else on this? I assume nothing really changed in the last week | 16:10 |
| cmurphy | not from me | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | ack - moving on then | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | #topic Release Schedule | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Schedule (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:10 | |
| lbragstad | as noted in the friday newsletter | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | #info we're just under a month away from specification freeze | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | and a couple weeks after that we have feature proposal freeze | 16:11 |
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| lbragstad | just a friendly psa if your name is on something feature-wise and it still isn't in review | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | keep in mind zuul and gate resources could very well be a big factor this cycle | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | #link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | on spec freeze | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624162/ | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | that was highlighted as something we should implement scaffolding for - resource options outside of user | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | ok | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | it proposes no new options just implementing the underlying support so we can add Resource Options to projects/domains/roles/etc | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | so - this isn't going to impact anything externally, yet | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | it will add the resource_options key in the responses | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | but it will be an empty list | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | no external impact beyond that | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | functionally - it should be the same | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | yep. | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | it's going to be a big set of DB migrations | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | and some minor code that mirrors the user bits and some empty "here is where Resource Options go" files. | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | i don't think we have a formal process of approving/socialize specifications after specification proposal freeze (unlike spec freeze) | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | does the team have thoughts on how we handle those cases? | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | yeh we usually ask for an exception | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | the only reason i proposed this as a spec vs strictly a bug was for the comment bits | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | however this is a little odd since it's no functional changes | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | i can see it being a feature, so a spec makes sense | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | yeah. | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | i think that's a within-team thing, not something we have to ask someone else for | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | i don't think many other teams even have spec proposal freeze | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | right. sorry was more we ask for a spec-exception from the team :P | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | e.g. from ourselves | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | we haven't hit that deadline, yet | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | yeah so i think it's on lbragstad to make the final call :) | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | hehe | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | yup | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | i can go both ways... here's my perspective | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | it's a formal deadline and we bother adding it to a formal release schedule | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | which makes me feel like we should formally use exceptions | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | the reason for this spec was based upon convos @ the summit | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | on the other hand... we really just use it to push people to not wait until the last minute | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | otherwise it might not have been bubbled up for any number of cycles | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | how much work is this going to be to implement? | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | mostly DB migrations | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | adding tables | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | and some sql-model joins to load | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | my worry is that we have a ton of work on our plate already and it would be nice if we keep some focus | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | most of the code exists for users, it's just replicating the pattern for the other resource types | 16:19 |
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| kmalloc | this can be deferred | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | it is proposed for comment. | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc maybe backlog if we can't get to it this cycle? | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | i would hate to lose the context from the summit | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | eh, i'll just repropose it for next cycle | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | it'll sit open. | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | that works, too | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | i largely view the backlog as a place where specs go to die | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | at the meoment | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | s/meoment/meowment/moment | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | and we *just* gave cmurphy an action to write a backlogged spec :) | 16:21 |
| cmurphy | :P | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | sorry | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | really the backlog is bad atm and needs to be cleaned up | 16:22 |
| cmurphy | we put the jwt spec in the backlog and it is still alive | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | it's the exception | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | really | 16:22 |
| * kmalloc is going from past experience | 16:22 | |
| lbragstad | yeah - maintaining the backlog is a process thing that sometimes gets forgotten | 16:22 |
| cmurphy | maybe we should make it a regular thing at the ptg | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | i would support that | 16:23 |
| cmurphy | go through the list and promote or kill | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | ^ that's what i always envisioned | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | we always have a pretty good idea of what we're going to be doing, but specs linger | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | or do a kill-spec pass at spec-freeze | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | each cycle | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | i'd love it if we just addressed them before we got on the plane to go home | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | it's less important to promote, it is important to determine if the specs should be killed | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | so i would almost do a promote @ the ptgf | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | (but people sometimes have to leave early, things come up, networks deteriorate, etc...) | 16:24 |
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| kmalloc | and kill at some other point in the cycle | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | that way we are worried about defining the work for the next cycle @ ptg/summit | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | and we can play cleanup like we do say office hours one day... or bug triage. create a list of lingering non-promoted specs and do a pass of "kill-or-consider for next cycle" | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | kill is more "comment on a review to delete spec from backlog, imo" | 16:25 |
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| kmalloc | promote may or may not happen even if we keep it | 16:25 |
| * kmalloc gets off soapbox. | 16:25 | |
| lbragstad | ok - i think we'll just need to make sure we schedule time to do a couple things on this front at the next PTG | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | first is probably cleaning things up | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | second would be making sure try and leave the Train PTG with a better idea of what we plan to do for that release - represented by the specs repo | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | third - refine the process and make sure we stick to it? | 16:27 |
| gagehugo | sounds like a decent plan | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | wfm | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | cool | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | anyone else have anything related to this? | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | #topic Outstanding Reviews | 16:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Outstanding Reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:28 | |
| lbragstad | last week we brought up a bunch of reviews that needed eyes | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | the only two that didn't merge were | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604201/ | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615384/ | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | and | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605043/ | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | i'm suffering off-by-one errors today | 16:29 |
| cmurphy | 615384 is ready now | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | thanks cmurphy | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have reviews that need attention? | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | the ksa one just needs eyes to make sure people are happy with it | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | it wont land until the SDK functional test is green | 16:30 |
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| lbragstad | yeah - i saw that | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | the -2 is to hold it until SDK is ready | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | please ignore the -2 on that front. real review of the code would be appreciated | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604926/ | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | right? ^ | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | barring the functional test, it's pretty good. | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | yeah | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | that one | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | ok - i'll keep tabs on it | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | i'll take a closer look at the ksa patch once the functional tests are squared away for sure | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | right now looking at the KSA code would be good. | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | because the functional tests may or may not change it, but if there is something you don't like about it... it's doing semaphore/shared state work | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | we should address that before a ton goes into the functional tests | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | as the functional tests are based upon the interface defined in the KSA patch | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | i'm kinda wondering if the process of functional testing will make improvements on that front or not | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | i don't think so | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | ok | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | it will be minor if anything | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | barring a major issue. but we've done iterations on the semaphore code. | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | i think we have shaken out the worst of the "the interface doesn't work" bits. | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | or "can't work" | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | sounds good | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | does anyone else have things up for review that need attention? | 16:35 |
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| lbragstad | y'all are probably gonna hate me for a while... but | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | i wont. | 16:37 |
| kmalloc | i'm going to be on vacation :P | 16:37 |
| * kmalloc announces vacation starting next week and will be back middle-ish of January. | 16:37 | |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:implement-default-roles | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | it's a lot - but there are a few easier series in there (endpoints, services, regions) | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | and likely will have another week off between january 14 and fed 15. | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | feb* | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc ack | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | i also have some code up for jwt that'd i would like to get some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/json-web-tokens | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | (specifically the certs and whatnot) | 16:38 |
| kmalloc | i'll be doing what i can to review it... you reviewed the flask stuff | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | :) | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | but... once vacation hits i really need to unplug | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | so i might check in and say hi, but the plan is to not look at openstack stuff for almost a month | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: also...unless you hit ~100 patches ... it isn't as bad as flask conversion :P | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - the implement-default-roles patches are broken into linear series | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | and we all suffered through that | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | they usually start by implementing system reader -> system member -> system admin -> domain users -> project users | 16:41 |
| lbragstad | if anyone has questions on that stuff, just let me know | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | oh. i'm doing a final pass on JWT spec | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | if nothing looks bad i'm +1ing it | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | +A. | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | unless someone else wants another pass at it | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | cool - sounds good | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | but warning, that is at the top of my list today. sooooooo | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | i think the big thing was that we wanted to double check with simo | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | speak now | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | yeah i think really the configurable crypto was the big deal | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | and multi-crypto support | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | for rotation | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | and hrybacki got feedback from him that i added in a follow-on | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | yeah | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | crypto-agility is important. | 16:44 |
| hrybacki | o/ -- thanks lbragstad | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | but straight forward as an add-on | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki no problem | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | alright - looks like we're safe to move on | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:45 |
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| lbragstad | floor is open if anyone has anything | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | alright - thanks for coming | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | reminder we have office hours in 15 minutes if you're available | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 16:47:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-12-11-16.00.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-12-11-16.00.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-12-11-16.00.log.html | 16:48 |
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