Tuesday, 2019-02-05

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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  5 09:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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priteau#topic Roll call09:00
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masahitoo/09:01
priteauHi masahito09:01
priteauIs tetsuro_ around as well?09:02
tetsuro_0/09:02
priteauHi tetsuro_09:02
tetsuro_Hi09:02
priteau#topic stein-3 milestone09:03
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priteauWe're getting closer to the stein-3 milestone which is at the end of February09:04
priteauActually, it moved, it is now March 709:04
priteauWe should try and merge as much as possible before then09:05
priteauI've reviewed the floating IP patch set and left various comments09:05
masahitoThanks your review. I checked your comments.09:06
masahitoI'll soon update it.09:06
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priteauThanks masahito09:06
priteauI've also started to revisit bug fixes from Chameleon, but I ran into a placement-related issue testing them09:06
priteau#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/181459409:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1814594 in Blazar "Failure to create a host" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tetsuro Nakamura (tetsuro0907)09:07
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tetsuro_I'll look into that. Could you add some more explanation to reproduce the bug, not only traceback?09:09
priteauI am not sure why we haven't seen that in our gate jobs. This is on a DevStack deployed yesterday.09:09
priteauI just added steps to reproduce09:11
priteau1) deploy DevStack with blazar plugin09:11
priteau2) `source openrc admin admin`09:11
priteau3) blazar host-create <hostname>09:11
tetsuro_Okay, I will see that asap.09:11
priteauI ran the same thing last week and it worked fine at the time, so it could be an upstream issue with nova or placement09:11
priteauI will try submitting a basic patch to see if gate has the same problems09:13
tetsuro_That's a good idea. Anyway I'll check the IRC openstack-blazar tomorrow morning.09:14
priteauCheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634890/ in an hour or so. If Zuul fails, it's probably an issue with an upstream change09:14
priteauOr tomorrow. I forgot it was already late for you :-)09:15
tetsuro_That's okay. I've put myself in as a reviewer of that patch.09:15
priteauNext on my list is to review tetsuro_'s affinity patches.09:16
tetsuro_Regarding to placement-related bugs, we also need more eye on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1813252.09:17
priteauOK, will check09:18
tetsuro_thanks09:19
priteaumasahito: Did you have a chance to look at tests for allocation API? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586859/09:22
masahitoI'm working on the patch.09:23
masahitoLooks I didn't figure out gabbits itself.09:23
masahitoI try to understand gabbits well again, then I'll update it.09:24
priteauOK. Let me know if you need some help.09:25
masahitothanks09:26
priteauAnything else to discuss for stein-3?09:27
priteauIf not, let's move to AOB09:29
priteau#topic AOB09:29
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priteauIf you've missed it, there was an interesting discussion on the mailing list about reservation of bare-metal nodes09:30
priteau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/002223.html09:30
priteauAmong the features they wanted, it included:09:31
priteau- leasing: a mechanism for marking nodes as available, requesting nodes for a specific length of time, and returning those nodes to the available pool when a lease has expired.09:31
priteauOf course I advised them to use Blazar for this purpose :-)09:31
priteauSo it's possible that in the future we will have a baremetal plugin09:32
masahitoI saw the interesting discussion, too :-)09:32
masahitoIs the baremetal support Chameleon the different approach?09:33
priteauThey09:34
priteauThey are referring to different approaches09:34
priteauIn Chameleon's case, Nova is used as the interface to provision Ironic nodes. There is some adaptation needed only because host aggregates don't work for Ironic.09:35
priteauIn the scenario discussed on the ML, Nova is not involved, and even Ironic is much less involved than normal. They want to reserve nodes for some time, and be able to deploy them with their own baremetal provisioner, which could be something else than Ironic (e.g. Foreman)09:36
priteauIt will require some changes to Ironic, or an additional proxy service above it, to be implemented first09:37
masahitoI see.09:38
priteauIt would be amazing if it brings new contributors to Blazar.09:39
masahitoright.09:39
priteauWe need to make sure Blazar doesn't have bad bugs when they try it!09:40
masahitoAnd he/she has real usecases. It's nice.09:40
priteauAnything else to discuss for AOB?09:40
priteauIf not I would suggest an easy code review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/628469/09:40
priteauIt's just little syntax changes to make the new hacking happy09:42
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priteauI forgot another thing to mention09:47
priteautetsuro_: I added you to blazar-core on Launchpad09:47
priteauI also gave admin privileges to all currently active cores09:47
tetsuro_Thank you!09:47
priteauI think that's all for today then. Have a good rest of the week!09:48
priteau#endmeeting09:48
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cmurphylbragstad: did you make it?16:00
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone16:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  5 16:01:37 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
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lbragstadcmurphy thanks for covering16:01
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting16:01
lbragstadagenda ^16:01
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lbragstadrelatively short schedule today16:02
kmalloco/16:02
gagehugoo/16:02
knikollao/16:02
vishakhao/16:02
lbragstad#topic Previous action items16:04
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lbragstadi think the only thing we had from last week was the technical vision statement16:04
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-technical-vision-notes16:04
cmurphyI think that was my action but I don't think I'll get to it until a little closer to ptg16:05
lbragstadsounds good16:05
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kmalloc++16:05
lbragstadit is redundant to have this on the weekly meeting?16:05
lbragstadi don't want to keep bugging you if we know it's not going to happen until we get closer to the PTG16:05
cmurphyyeah i don't think i need a weekly reminder16:05
lbragstadack16:05
cmurphyit's on my trello board16:06
lbragstadthat wraps up action items then16:06
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lbragstad#topic reviews that need attention16:06
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lbragstaddoes anyone have reviews they need eyes on?16:06
cmurphyI want to call attention to imus's (outreachy intern) patch https://review.openstack.org/630301 esp kmalloc16:07
* kmalloc nods.16:07
kmallocit's on my short list.16:07
kmalloci've seen the iterations on it16:07
kmallocit's been looking good.16:07
kmalloci figured today was where it was going to get full review from me.16:07
lbragstadoh - nice16:08
kmallocI also would like some passing "does this look ok" eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605043/ it's something we are working on a functional test for16:09
kmallocbut i really would like feedback early if we need to change interfaces on16:09
kmallocit will greatly improve SDK and some consumers of SDK.16:09
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lbragstadadded16:10
cmurphyi think i forgot about it since there is a -216:10
kmallocyeah the -2 is very much procedureal16:10
kmallocwe need a functional test, it's not been straight forward because rate-limiting is never straightforward, especially multi-threaded ratlimiting16:11
kmallocif we're ok with the interface, we'll get that test up and running so we can land it16:11
lbragstadany other patches we want to draw attention to?16:12
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lbragstadi still have a bunch up - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:implement-default-roles16:13
lbragstadbut i appreciate everyone that's been taking time to review those16:13
lbragstadi know it's a lot16:14
kmalloccmurphy: +2/+A on imus's patch16:14
kmalloccmurphy: it's good.16:14
lbragstadhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/614549/14 could use some eyes, too (but all the prerequisite patches merged)16:14
cmurphykmalloc: woot16:14
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kmalloccmurphy: i also just fixed the minor pep8 issue on the followup patch, it might be ready to land as well.16:15
kmalloccmurphy: on my list to review today too.16:15
cmurphykmalloc: um read the comments on that one, it should have been abandoned16:15
cmurphyit's due to a git learning experience16:16
kmallocah16:16
kmallocnvm16:16
kmalloccmurphy: abandoned then.16:17
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lbragstadanything else review-wise?16:19
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lbragstadi would like to note that some of the scope work might force us to relook at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624794/16:20
lbragstadi stumbled across that a couple months ago in order to get some of the new system scope policies to work with tempest16:21
lbragstad(tempest has a setting where if a token is domain-scoped, it assumes the user is a cloud administrator)16:21
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lbragstadmy question is if we should continue reinforcing that idea if gmann is already working on system-scope support in tempest auth clients16:22
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cmurphyprobably not, we should probably have tempest do it properly16:23
gagehugo++16:23
lbragstadi don't think i understood why that assumption was made16:23
lbragstadso i want to make sure i understand why the fence was put up before we rip it down16:23
lbragstadit could have been something related to the original approach with is_admin_project? but it's not clear to me if that's the case16:24
lbragstadeither way - i wanted to float it by the group so that you're aware of it if you're reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605485/1816:25
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lbragstad#topic open discussion16:26
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lbragstadfloor is open16:26
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cmurphyI'm on vacation tomorrow-sunday, probably not 100% afk but won't plan on being around much16:26
lbragstadenjoy the time off cmurphy16:26
lbragstadsomewhat related to reviews: just a reminder that the gate has been super flaky16:27
kmalloccmurphy: don't come around if you're on vacation ;) enjoy time off16:27
kmalloccmurphy: it's not that we don't want you here, you deserve time off!16:27
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vishakhahave a great time cmurphy16:27
vishakhaFor https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1601910, as this is invalid now.16:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1601910 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "drop support for EPHEMERAL user type in mapping" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Vishakha Agarwal (vishakha.agarwal)16:28
lbragstadbased on comment #12, i would say so16:29
vishakhaShouldn't we update the document too?16:29
lbragstadbut i'm curious why it was opened in the first place, if the original reporter had an idea for removing ephemeral that we're not seeing16:29
vishakhaAs user_type is not set anywhere?16:30
cmurphykmalloc: ^16:30
kmallocuhm.16:30
kmalloci don't remember the context there :P16:30
kmalloceven reading the comments.16:30
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kmalloci *think* it was just "drop ephemeral users in favor of shadow users* 100%16:31
kmallocso uh, sure, close it invalid?16:31
cmurphyif type is ephemeral does that cause the shadow user not to be created?16:31
kmalloci think so16:32
kmallocor that was the intent16:32
cmurphyhmm16:32
kmallocanswer hazy, ask again later </magic 8 ball>16:32
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kmallocthe down side is shadow users leave records in the db.16:33
kmallocif you have a lot of churn, it could bloat the db16:33
kmalloc(please don't have a lot of churn in your identity system)16:33
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kmallocrealistically we should just drop ephemeral users and promote everything to the shadow user implementation (or new form)16:34
kmallocit should not be api breaking16:34
kmallocthis is housekeeping internal to keystone16:34
lbragstadwell - the mapping would break, right?16:34
cmurphyokay i think i was thinking that "ephemeral" users will shadow users as opposed to local users which are actually in the local_user db16:34
kmallocah16:34
kmallocmaybe that's it?16:34
kmallocunfortunately i've stacked a long vacation on top of a "haven't touched this code in forever"... so I am guessing at intent... i should stop guessingh16:35
lbragstadbecause ephemeral is set in the mapping, so if we remove that then we're changing the behavior of the mapping if a deployment is using an ephemeral mapping?16:35
cmurphysounds like in either case we may want to keep support for ephemeral users16:36
lbragstadok16:36
vishakhaok . So I think I need not to touch this thing16:36
lbragstadi think this ties in with the whole shadow user deep dive we want to do16:37
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lbragstadanything else for open discussion?16:38
kmalloclbragstad: ++ def. part of the shadow user deep dive16:38
* kmalloc wishes Ron, Steve, and dstanek were still working on this16:39
lbragstadyeah, me too16:39
lbragstadlooks like that's about it for today16:40
lbragstadi appreciate everyone being here16:40
lbragstadreminder that office hours starts in about 20 minutes if you're around16:40
lbragstadthanks!16:40
lbragstad#endmeeting16:40
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cmurphythanks for bringing that up vishakha I had forgotten to16:40
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