Thursday, 2019-02-28

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lujinluo#startmeeting neutron_upgrades14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 28 14:00:05 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lujinluo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades'14:00
lujinluowaiting for my friends14:00
lujinluook, i will post the updates here just in case people come back to read the log14:02
lujinluo#topic OVO14:02
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lujinluo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db+(status:open)14:02
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lujinluowe do not have much progress since last meeting14:02
lujinluoI respinned port binding one, but it still has one UT failure14:02
lujinluo#link port binding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544206/14:03
lujinluoi will push another patch, then reviews are welcome!14:03
lujinluoand that's all i have for now.14:04
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lujinluo#topic engine-facade14:05
*** openstack changes topic to "engine-facade (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)"14:05
lujinluo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/enginefacade-switch14:05
lujinluowe do not have updates on this one either14:05
lujinluoi will have more time to work on neutron next week, so hopefully i can push out more patches next week!14:06
lujinluoand that's it!14:06
lujinluohave a good day!14:06
lujinluo#endmeeting14:06
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tbarron#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 28 15:00:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
amitoo/ hey15:00
bswartz.o/15:00
gansohello15:01
carlos_silvahi15:01
bswartzI'm back from traveling15:01
tbarronbswartz: welcome back!15:01
dviroel_o/15:01
tbarroncarlos_silva: welcome15:01
tbarrondviroel_: hello!  not sure I've seen you here before15:01
lsekihello15:01
erlonhey15:02
tbarronping gouthamr xyang toabctl ganso tpsilva15:02
tbarronlseki: welcome!15:02
tbarronlseki: and thanks for patches15:02
lsekitbarron: thank you!15:02
carlos_silvatbarron: thank you :)15:02
tbarronagenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:03
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* tbarron waits a couple minutes15:03
dviroel_tbarron: actually it is my second time.15:03
erlontbarron, dviroel_ has joined our team!15:03
tbarrondviroel_: that's great!15:03
vkmco/15:04
tbarrono/15:04
tbarron\o15:04
vkmcbswartz, wb, thanks for the review in the tls patch :)15:04
tbarronok let's get started15:04
tbarron#topic announcements15:05
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tbarronThe TC election has started.15:05
tbarronunfort we don't have bswartz as a candidate this time15:05
* tbarron nudges him for next time15:05
tbarronBUT15:05
tbarronwe have till 5 March to vote15:06
tbarron#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/003227.html15:06
tbarronPlease vote if you are eligible.15:06
tbarronParticipation is valuable for its own sake.15:07
gouthamro/15:07
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tbarronIn that healthy participation helps keep Open Stack with open governance vital.15:08
amitogouthamr: hey!15:08
tbarrongouthamr: \o15:08
tbarronNext: Forum submission topic deadline is next Friday.15:08
tbarronI intend to submit after our meeting next week.15:08
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tbarronWe have a brainstorming etherpad here:15:08
tbarron#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/003059.html15:09
tbarronoh that's the email saying where it is15:09
tbarronjust follow the links15:09
tbarronso far I'15:09
tbarronso far I'm the only one who has put anything on that etherpad15:09
tbarronFinally, feature freeze is 7 March - one week from today15:10
amitotbarron: do we have an etherpad for the PTG as well?15:10
tbarronthat's also client library change15:10
tbarronamito: not yet, I'll post it15:10
tbarronstein schedule again is:15:10
tbarron#link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html15:11
tbarronamito, all: we will be at PTG and at summit we will have onboarding and project status and Forum sessions for manila15:11
tbarronif you will be there and want to help with these ping me15:11
tbarronAny questions/comments on these announcments?  Any other announcements?15:12
tbarron#topic Tracking our work15:12
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tbarron#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/SteinCycle15:13
tbarronin light of feature freeze, the most important thing to do is reviews on the manage with multi-tenancy work15:13
tbarron#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/manage-unmanage-with-share-servers+(status:open+OR+status:merged)15:13
tbarroni've been reviewing and goutham has done some good review work here as well I think as toabctl15:14
tbarronbut we need more eyes!15:14
tbarronThis is a significant change for manila and we want to merge it.15:14
tbarronThanks to ganso and his team for their great work.15:15
gansoindeed, the closer we get to feature freeze, the riskier it is to have our gate broken, as other projects such as cinder, nova, neutron, etc may merge changes that break our gate15:15
tbarronAll that said, there are probably things that more review eyes will see and that we should fix up.15:15
tbarronSo please review.15:15
gansoso, the best thing is to do reviews as soon as possible while our gate is stable, so we don't have to fix things in the last minute, risking not being able to merge the features that are ready now waiting for review15:15
tbarronDon't think "oh I can't review that whole thing" -- do what you can15:16
tbarronDon't think - oh I'm not a core, etc. etc.15:16
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bswartzGah, gerrit crashed my browser15:16
tbarronDon't say: oh my browser crashed, I can't review :)15:16
tbarronok, nuf said15:17
bswartzPress "Open All" at your own risk15:17
lsekilol15:17
gouthamrganso crashed your browser15:17
tbarronWhat else is vital for next week's deadline?15:17
tbarronvkmc: how goes the uswgi stuff?15:18
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vkmcit's going well, I'm currently working on a bug that was spotted yesterday15:18
vkmc#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/181808115:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1818081 in Manila "Problem using version specific endpoints when deploying with uWSGI" [High,New] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc)15:18
vkmchopefully this unblocks cephfs gate15:19
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gouthamro/ vkmc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639805/15:19
vkmcthanks gouthamr for getting to the bottom of it15:19
vkmcaaaand fixing it15:19
vkmc:D15:19
tbarronyeah this is an interesting story about our test coverage15:19
gouthamr:D sorry, bothered me quite a bit15:19
tbarronwhy is this a cephfs only issue?15:19
tbarronwhat does uswgi have to do with the cephfs back end?15:20
vkmcwe need that one and also, to unblock the third party cis, we would need to update the version of the client they are using... not sure how we can do that15:20
vkmcI'll let gouthamr address this one since he found that15:20
gouthamri actually don't know about this client incompatibility15:21
gouthamrdid we introduce something in the client that breaks third party CIs?'15:21
vkmcno, I was referring to tbarron's question15:21
gouthamrohh15:21
tbarroni think the third party  failures we saw are a separate issue that we need to investigate but15:22
gouthamryeah, all of our first party drivers run some version of a regex to remove tests that don't pertain to the manila-share service15:22
tbarronyeah, talk about that one ^^15:22
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gouthamrganso observed we're only running 7 tests (out 500+?) on the container driver15:23
tbarronno wonder it's so reliable15:23
gansogouthamr: I already enabled the full regex on the core manage/unmanage patch15:23
gansogouthamr: and it added something like 5 minutes to the job15:23
gouthamrthe container driver is not feature complete, it should be running more than 7 tetss15:23
gansofrom 43 to 48 IIRC15:23
gouthamrtests*15:23
gouthamrganso: nice, good, are you specifying a regex at all15:24
gansogouthamr: no, it is picking up the default now15:24
gansomanila_tempest_tests.api15:24
gouthamrganso: good stuff... my current thought is we don't care about the 5-10 min losses to run the full test suite against these driverd15:25
tbarronanyways because we had those regexes there were tests that would have failed on other back ends than cephfs with uwsgi15:25
tbarrongouthamr: why does uwsgi cause those tests to fail?15:26
gouthamroh, when deploying with uwsgi we have a proxy, and the proxy path shows up in the URLs15:26
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tbarronso it's not uwsgi, it's that theres a proxy involved?15:27
gouthamrand there's code in the manila API to only accept either /v1/xyzzy or /v2/xyzzy as the URL paths, and no proxy components15:27
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gouthamri suspect we will have further issues here, besides the ones that vkmc and i have already addressed15:28
gouthamrtbarron: yes15:28
gouthamrthe other issues could be in the object links ('href') or pagination, either of which we currently don't test with tempest15:28
tbarronso we can treat these as bugs but i want to get enough of this stuff fixed by next week that the uwsgi changes can merge15:28
tbarronso folks please prioritize these reviews15:29
gouthamryes, unless the uwsgi change is breaking some gate, i think it can merge15:29
tbarronamito: you've done some good work on the openstack sdk15:29
vkmcyeah, that fix you submitted should fix ceph gates15:29
amitotbarron: thanks :)15:29
amitotbarron: hope it gets reviewed soon15:29
tbarronamito: do you know if the feature deadline freeze applied to it?15:29
vkmcand third parties needs to be fixed by updating the python-manilaclient version15:29
gouthamrvkmc: i still don't get that part15:30
amitotbarron: I don't think so, gouthamr - you said they don't have a release, right?15:30
vkmcin non third parties we are using python-manilaclient==1.26.1.dev715:30
tbarronamito: i think that's right, just checking ...15:30
vkmcin third parties we are using python-manilaclient==1.2615:30
amitotbarron: I still need to complete some unit-tests though15:31
tbarronamito: kk15:31
vkmcand there is a recent fix we merged in the client that fix how we resolve urls15:31
gouthamroh!15:31
vkmcdevstack fails if we try to deploy manila with uwsgi and without that client side fix15:31
gouthamrouch, yes :(15:32
vkmc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634345/15:32
vkmcthis is the fix I'm talking about15:32
tbarronvkmc: will this be fixed if we release a new client to pypi?15:32
vkmctbarron, yes15:32
gouthamr+115:32
tbarrongouthamr: vkmc: k, we'll propose that asap15:32
vkmcassuming third party ci's update their client version if we release a new client to pypi15:33
toskytbarron: you need to release one next week anyway15:33
tbarronanything else we need to get into the client?15:33
gouthamrvkmc: don't think they need to update anything15:33
vkmcnope, that's all15:33
tbarrontosky: ack15:33
vkmcgouthamr, cool15:33
gouthamrthey're not using the LIBS_FROM_GIT devstack var, which makes them get python-manilaclient from pypi15:33
vkmc<vkmc> nope, that's all  <- last famous words... I want to see that ci go green with gouthamr patch15:34
tbarroni'll propose the release today then.  If anyone thinks of something else that we need in the client let me know but I don't see outstanding reveiws.15:34
tbarronoh15:34
tbarronmanage-unmange for share servers :)15:35
tbarronganso must be sleeping15:35
gansoI'm here15:35
* bswartz gets his large trout ready15:35
tbarronbecause he's been working all night15:35
gansolol15:35
tbarronganso smells fishy now15:35
tbarronganso are you running libs_from_git in netapp ci for python-manilaclient in order to get your patch?15:36
gansotbarron: we don't run netapp-ci on python-manilaclient15:37
gansotbarron: and tempest doesn't need python-manilaclient15:37
tbarronganso: ack15:37
tbarronvkmc: gouthamr ^^ then why does their 3rd party CI fail with uswgi?15:37
tbarronI think we'll take this one to #openstack-manila -15:38
gouthamrhttp://13.56.179.158/logs/38/631338/18/upstream-check/manila-cDOT-no-ss/bc0a2a2/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2019-02-25_17_02_00_92615:38
vkmcganso, devstack needs it15:38
tbarronwe need to get the manage share servers stuff and the uwsgi stuff merged, let's review and figure out how to do it.15:38
gouthamrhttp://13.56.179.158/logs/38/631338/18/upstream-check/manila-cDOT-no-ss/bc0a2a2/logs/local.conf.txt.gz15:38
gouthamrsame problem as vkmc mentioned15:39
gansoI was looking at the wrong patch <facepalm/>15:39
gouthamri see "LIBS_FROM_GIT="15:39
gansowe could trigger run netapp-ci there just in case it is a random failure15:39
tbarronso netapp CI can add the uwsgi patch additionally and we'll know that pypi will work for 3rd parties15:40
tbarronwhen we publish to pypi15:40
tbarronafter the manage pythonclient patch merges15:40
tbarron#topic bugs15:41
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tbarronjgrosso you are up15:41
jgrossoYAY!15:41
jgrosso:)15:41
gouthamrjgrosso: welcome back!15:41
jgrossothanks !! PTO for ever very rusty15:41
jgrossohttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad15:42
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jgrossoWe have a section called NEW15:42
jgrossoI am trying to triage these as soon as they come in15:42
vkmctrue history ^15:43
tbarronjgrosso++15:43
vkmcI saw him triaging my wsgi bug 3 minutes after I reported it15:43
openstackbug 3 in mono (Ubuntu) "Custom information for each translation team" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315:43
vkmcjgrosso++15:43
jgrossoso I am going to try and get all new bugs set with Importance15:44
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jgrossofirst if there is nothing there15:44
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jgrossocan some explain this bug15:45
jgrossohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/181648615:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1816486 in Manila " Allow configuring availability_zones in share types" [Undecided,New]15:45
gouthamrooh, doc bug15:46
tbarronanother good thing if it's obvious is low hanging fruit b/c we have a bunch of outreachy folks interested in picking these up15:46
vkmctbarron++15:46
gouthamrthanks jgrosso, that was a tracker for me to go add docs, will probably get to it after milestone 315:46
jgrossook15:46
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gouthamrjgrosso: i'll modify the title to say [Doc] in the title15:47
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jgrossohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/181731615:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1817316 in Manila "security service password is stored in plaintext" [Undecided,New]15:47
tbarronjgrosso: when you see DOCIMPACT like that at the top it's auto-generated b/c someone put a tag in their mainline commit ...15:47
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jgrossotbarron: got it15:47
tbarronjgrosso: this is an interesting one15:47
tbarronreported by SAP15:47
tbarronand I asked about it some this morning15:48
jgrossoplaintext just scares me15:48
jgrossowhen attached to password15:48
tbarronwell it's plaintext only visible to cloud admins, not to cloud users15:48
vkmcnot the best combination, I agree15:48
tbarronbut SAP security auditors still don't like that15:48
tbarronand I bet govt auditors too15:48
jgrossoyeah I bet not15:49
tbarronso I asked whether any projects are using barbican to protect these secrets yet15:49
tbarronasked via our downstream openstack security team15:49
tbarronso far it appears not15:49
tbarronbut I think this should be a PTG topic15:49
tbarronanyone know of any projects doing this?15:49
bswartzWe could do a better job of handling secrets like the ones in security services15:50
tbarronI wonder if we should add this as a potential cross-project forum session15:50
bswartzAt the time the feature was added, there wasn't a facility to make that easy15:50
tbarronI don't think the issue is at all unique to manila15:51
tbarronany project that stores passwords for external storage, external network equipment, external security/identity services, etc.15:51
tbarrons/passwords/credentials/15:51
tbarronwould have this kind of issue15:52
tbarronprobably we should ask not WWCD15:52
tbarronwhat would Cinder do?15:52
tbarronbut WWKD15:52
tbarronkeystone15:52
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tbarronkeystone allows one to use LDAP etc. as back end right?15:52
bswartzUltimately what manila does is slighly unique and there are real security risks15:53
bswartzBut there should be a generalized way to avoid the worst of those risks, and we should take advantage of it15:53
tbarronbswartz:+115:53
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tbarronso let's find out the best practice as a baseline and go from there15:54
bswartzOne issue early in the life of OpenStack was that no project wanted to depends on any other project because it created deployment complexity15:54
gouthamri feel we can remove password if present, technically it's not in the API15:54
bswartzNow perhaps there's a well-accepted thing we can depend on15:54
tbarronbswartz: well we can try to do encryption with a plugin maybe15:54
gouthamri.e, the NetApp backend is storing it in its driver-specific "backend_details" field15:54
bswartztbarron: it's not our core strength, we'd either do a poor job, or waste a lot of time duplicated work others have done in order to do a good job15:55
bswartzduplicating15:55
jgrossotbarron: Have we had a deep bug scrub recently for the manila upstream bugs?15:56
gouthamri.e, whatever we're going to implement, we've to figure out if a backend wants to store a secret in teh database... so, if a backend's currently doing that, we can just remove it from the API response citing security impact15:56
tbarronbswartz: agree and that's why I want to find out if there's a best practice in some other project already15:56
tbarronjgrosso: no15:56
tbarronjgrosso: that's why we hired you :)15:56
jgrossogood so I would like to have one :)15:56
* tbarron is joking, jgrosso was hired for many jobs15:56
gouthamrjgrosso: +100 :)15:56
tbarronjgrosso: consider yourself fully deputized to drive it15:57
jgrossocan we all agree on an hour meeting to go through some of these bugs ?15:57
jgrossoI will try an organize them the best I can15:57
jgrossobefore said meeting15:57
dviroel_0,15:57
tbarronjgrosso: so just propose it on openstack-discuss with [manila] at front of $subject15:58
jgrossoI shall :)15:58
tbarronjgrosso: make sure to do it early in the morning east coast time so gouthamr has to get up early15:58
jgrossoalso have not touched storyboard but did get a sandbox15:58
jgrossotbarron: yeah we can get that slacker up early ;)15:59
* gouthamr sigh, trout coffee15:59
tbarrontime check15:59
tbarronif there's anything else for today please take it to #openstack-manila15:59
gansotbarron: I do16:00
tbarronThanks everyone!  We're making some good progress.16:00
gansotbarron: will discuss there16:00
tbarronganso: thanks16:00
tbarron#endmeeting16:00
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vkmcthanks o/16:00
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