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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 08:59:58 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
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| masahito | o/ | 09:00 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:01 |
| priteau | Hi masahito & tetsuro | 09:01 |
| priteau | I see bertys is online as well. | 09:02 |
| bertys | o/ sorry I am late, hi all | 09:02 |
| priteau | Agenda for today: | 09:02 |
| priteau | 1. Denver Summit Project Update | 09:02 |
| priteau | 2. Stein release | 09:02 |
| priteau | 3. Train PTL | 09:02 |
| priteau | 4. AOB | 09:03 |
| priteau | #agenda Denver Summit Project Update | 09:03 |
| priteau | #topic Denver Summit Project Update | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Denver Summit Project Update (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:03 | |
| priteau | Our project update is now listed on the schedule: https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23722/blazar-project-update | 09:03 |
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| priteau | bertys isn't displayed in the speaker list, I just emailed them to rectify | 09:04 |
| priteau | Thank you tetsuro and bertys for volunteering! | 09:04 |
| masahito | Thank you | 09:04 |
| tetsuro | :) | 09:05 |
| priteau | I have created a new slide deck which I dropped in our shared folder, you should all be able to edit it. | 09:06 |
| priteau | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/177YVZhWH25E_FeBXfiWbZ_FwL3cFczbh5zmxHvbEGug/edit | 09:06 |
| priteau | I updated the first slide with date / location / speakers, rotated the release slides, and created a new slide to talk in more details about our work with Neutron | 09:07 |
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| priteau | Please, update as you see fit | 09:09 |
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| priteau | Do you have any questions? | 09:09 |
| priteau | masahito: It would nice if you could add some details about floating IP reservation | 09:10 |
| masahito | okay. | 09:10 |
| priteau | tetsuro: Can you please check that all the placement information is up to date? | 09:12 |
| tetsuro | sure. I'll update that slide. | 09:12 |
| priteau | Thank you. | 09:12 |
| priteau | We can decide in another meeting who talks when. Unless you have other comments, let's talk about the Stein release. | 09:13 |
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| priteau | #topic Stein release | 09:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein release (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:14 | |
| priteau | RC1 is very close now. A release patch has been proposed already: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644304/ | 09:15 |
| priteau | We have a deadline of Thursday to update it. | 09:15 |
| priteau | I would like to merge floating IP reservation and the affinity code by then. | 09:16 |
| priteau | Affinity patch series only has two minor open patches: | 09:17 |
| priteau | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642969/ | 09:17 |
| priteau | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636817/ | 09:17 |
| priteau | bertys and masahito, could you please review? | 09:17 |
| masahito | ah, Added +2 and W+1 right now. | 09:18 |
| masahito | For the latter. | 09:19 |
| priteau | Thank you | 09:19 |
| priteau | For floating IP reservation, what is the status? I did review and testing at the end of last week and noticed that the update_lease patch had been dropped from the series and was out of date (it didn't support multiple requested IPs) | 09:21 |
| masahito | Its statuses are | 09:22 |
| masahito | 1. reserved_floatingips key in Get or List lease API are not implemented yet because it needs some change to db_api.lease_get or lease_list method to query allocation info. | 09:23 |
| masahito | 2. the releasenote has not been pushed to the gerrit b/c I want to discuss it include "the floating ip reservation is experimental" or not. | 09:25 |
| masahito | 3. I missed the patch for the update API. I try to update in one day. | 09:26 |
| masahito | that's a current status. | 09:26 |
| priteau | Thanks masahito | 09:26 |
| priteau | Having tested floating IP reservation, I think it works well enough, it doesn't have to be called "experimental" | 09:27 |
| priteau | But, it isn't fully implemented since we won't ship client support in Stein and we haven't even started working on blazar-dashboard support | 09:28 |
| priteau | We could call it "incomplete", following this categorisation of Nova features | 09:28 |
| priteau | #link https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/feature-classification.html#feature-group-maturity | 09:28 |
| masahito | Make sense to me. | 09:29 |
| masahito | We don't have enough docs for the floating ip reservation as well. | 09:29 |
| priteau | I've started working on a CLI doc based on my client implementation | 09:30 |
| masahito | I try to write the release note. | 09:30 |
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| masahito | For the client side, the CLI works for the floating IP reservation unless an user doesn't specify required_fip key. | 09:31 |
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| bertys | FYI. As soon as I get the okay from Zuul, will merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644514 | 09:32 |
| priteau | masahito: I thought I had tried it on Friday and it worked, maybe I got confused | 09:32 |
| priteau | Now that the spec is merged, can we also start merging the base patches for floating IP? | 09:33 |
| priteau | Once bertys has approved 644514 | 09:33 |
| priteau | masahito: have you tested my CLI patch? | 09:35 |
| masahito | priteau: Not yet. Sorry, I didn't notice the patch. | 09:36 |
| priteau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639763/ | 09:37 |
| masahito | thanks | 09:38 |
| priteau | bertys and tetsuro, would you be able to review masahito's code? We can start merging the base patches, they don't need to merge all at the same time | 09:39 |
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| tetsuro | I'll start to review them though I don't have enough time to review all of them this week. | 09:41 |
| priteau | This will be too late for RC1 and it will be hard to justify merging this code past RC1 :( | 09:44 |
| priteau | We are already doing an exception as we're past feature freeze | 09:44 |
| priteau | bertys: do you have some time for review? | 09:45 |
| bertys | Quite challenging as I am out of office tomorrow. | 09:46 |
| priteau | Given that this new feature is not changing any of the instance/host reservation code, would you be OK with me merging it with just my +2? And of course the code comes from a core reviewer so it has masahito's implied +2 :-) | 09:47 |
| masahito | :-) | 09:48 |
| tetsuro | Okay. | 09:49 |
| priteau | I know this is bending the rules, but we will still have some time after RC1 to fix issues. | 09:49 |
| priteau | I don't think there would be any though. The extra plugin first has to be loaded via blazar.conf to even work. | 09:50 |
| priteau | bertys: what do you think? | 09:51 |
| bertys | It is okay. Please go ahead. | 09:51 |
| priteau | Great, thank you. | 09:52 |
| priteau | We just have a few minutes left with the meeting. | 09:52 |
| priteau | Sorry, I missed the first call for cycle highlights | 09:53 |
| priteau | I just noticed the reminder this morning. | 09:53 |
| priteau | "cycle-highlights are due with your rc1" | 09:53 |
| priteau | Reminder, cycle highlights are short sentences focusing on the major changes of the release | 09:54 |
| priteau | e.g. in Rocky: https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/highlights.html | 09:54 |
| priteau | I think ours should be anti-affinity/no affinity support, floating IP reservation, and the allocation API | 09:55 |
| priteau | I will draft something and share with you for review, OK? | 09:56 |
| tetsuro | +1 | 09:56 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:56 |
| bertys | +1 | 09:56 |
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| priteau | Great. Please let me know if we should add another feature that I forgot. | 09:57 |
| priteau | #topic Train PTL | 09:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Train PTL (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:57 | |
| priteau | The election period is not finished yet, but since there are no other candidates I guess I will be PTL for the Train cycle | 09:57 |
| priteau | Thank you for your support :-) | 09:58 |
| priteau | First focus is on finishing the Stein release, then we can think about Train | 09:59 |
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| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:59 | |
| priteau | Anything else? | 09:59 |
| masahito | Nothing from my side. | 10:00 |
| tetsuro | nothing | 10:00 |
| priteau | Looks like we're done. Thanks a lot! | 10:01 |
| priteau | Bye everyone | 10:01 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 10:01:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-03-19-08.59.html | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-03-19-08.59.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-03-19-08.59.log.html | 10:02 |
| masahito | thanks, bye | 10:02 |
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| tetsuro | thanks! | 10:02 |
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| cmurphy | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:01 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: uh so who is chairing this meeting? | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | is this my last week? | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | i think so? | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | lbragstad: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 16:01 |
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| * cmurphy unclear | 16:01 | |
| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 16:01:56 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 16:02 |
| wxy| | o/ | 16:02 |
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| lbragstad | relatively light schedule today | 16:03 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:04 |
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| lbragstad | #topic RC1/RC2 | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1/RC2 (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:04 | |
| lbragstad | cmurphy o/ | 16:04 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:04 |
| ayoung | hey ho lets go | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | so wrt rc1 I think we should cut it once https://review.openstack.org/641128 and https://review.openstack.org/642026 land | 16:04 |
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| lbragstad | ++ | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | then there are three bugs that i think are candidates for rc2 | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | wfm, i'll have the cache fix today | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | so we can RC2 those | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1801873 | 16:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1801873 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Unable to delete domains when users was managed by LDAP back-end" [Medium,New] | 16:05 |
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| cmurphy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1819957 | 16:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1819957 in keystonemiddleware "Caching with stale data when a server disconnects due to network partition and reconnects" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Morgan Fainberg (mdrnstm) | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1817313 | 16:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1817313 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "RBAC Enforcer Programming Error raised for malformed federation protocol request" [High,Triaged] | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | the RBAC Enforcer will be harder to fix. | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | might be later this week | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | and if we agree we want an rc2 then that also gives us some extra time to land other system scope changes | 16:05 |
| * kmalloc is already voting for RC2 | 16:05 | |
| lbragstad | agreed | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | yeah | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | cache bug alone | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | the others are important to fix. | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | fwiw | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | are there other high priority bugs to highlight? | 16:06 |
| kmalloc | but the cache one is likely to break things in weird ways and probably has in production | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | the python3 ldap fixes just landed so those are good | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642102/ and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624794/ landed so we should be able to get some of the system scope patches for users and projects moving | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | yay | 16:06 |
| gagehugo | cool | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | are people leaning towards an RC2? | 16:08 |
| * cmurphy is | 16:08 | |
| * gagehugo thinks it's a good idea for the caching issue | 16:08 | |
| lbragstad | do we want to track the patches we need for rc2 somewhere? | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | dashboard, etherpad, post-it notes? | 16:09 |
| gagehugo | couldn't hurt to etherpad it | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | we can create a milestone thingy in launchpad and target rc2 bugs to that | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:09 |
| * cmurphy does that | 16:09 | |
| lbragstad | what about patches in review? just trace through the bugs? | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | maybe an etherpad is good for that | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | ack | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | anyone interested in wrangling that up? | 16:11 |
| gagehugo | separate etherpad? or make it part of the weekly schedule until the due date? | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | either or? | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | i don't think i have a preference | 16:12 |
| gagehugo | I can make one real quick then | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | #action gagehugo to whip up an etherpad for patches that need to land for RC2 | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | thanks gagehugo | 16:14 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-stein-rc2-tracking | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | i assume we should get content in there by EOD and start pushing people to review them | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | anything else for release candidates? | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | nothing from me | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | #topic Revisiting meeting time | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Revisiting meeting time (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:15 | |
| lbragstad | cmurphy again o/ | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | so it's the end of the cycle which is a good time to revisit the meeting time | 16:16 |
| cmurphy | I'm also about to move to the US west coast and I think I'm the only person who currently attends from europe | 16:16 |
| cmurphy | so it's a good opportunity to make this less painful for wxy| and vishakha | 16:16 |
| knikolla | ++ | 16:17 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:17 |
| gagehugo | ++ | 16:17 |
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| knikolla | so what time would work best? | 16:18 |
| cmurphy | I can draw up a doodle poll to find a new time | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | #action cmurphy to organize a doodle to find a new meeting time | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | thanks | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | I'll send the poll to the mailing list | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | awesome | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | anything else on meeting times? | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | we can probably keep the current time for next meeting and announce the new time then? | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i'd give at least a week or two before adopting the new time, whatever that is | 16:20 |
| knikolla | ++ | 16:20 |
| gagehugo | sounds good | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | mmk | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | anything else on the meeting time? | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | not from me | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | #topic review | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:20 | |
| lbragstad | er - reviews* | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have things that need reviews? outside of what we already discussed for RC2? | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | additionally, if you do have things that are needed for RC2, you should add them to the etherpad :) | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | #Link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-stein-rc2-tracking | 16:21 |
| cmurphy | I don't have anything to highlight atm | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | sounds good | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | if something does come up - please be loud and let people know, now is the time to get eyes on things we need for stein | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:23 | |
| lbragstad | so i responded to a note to the mailing list about duplicate forum sessions | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | is anyone else following that? | 16:23 |
| * gagehugo looks at his email | 16:24 | |
| kmalloc | as an FYI, i may or may not be at the summit | 16:24 |
| * lbragstad nods | 16:24 | |
| kmalloc | discussing some timing with brie now to see how this all will work out timing wise | 16:25 |
| knikolla | schrodinger's kmalloc | 16:25 |
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| * cmurphy torn on duplicate sessions | 16:25 | |
| kmalloc | nah, it's the heisenberg-uncertaintey kmalloc | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | you can either know where i am or where i am going. | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | :P | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | i might just pass over the summit | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy what are your thoughts? | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | i feel like nova is always the first target for changes like these so ironing things out with them is probably going to end up applying to everyone else | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | but they're also pretty big topics and maybe worth taking double time? | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | idk | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | oh - that's true | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | or maybe scope should be two sessions and limits condensed to one session? | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | literally, my *only* hesitation for keeping both sessions for unified limits and policy is splitting the audience | 16:29 |
| cmurphy | yeah | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | also - i'm trying to remind myself that this is forum specific | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | so - operators should be at the fore-front of our intended audience, imo | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | since we can push developer conversations to the PTG | 16:30 |
| cmurphy | hmm i thought forum was more about cross collaboration than operator-specific | 16:31 |
| gagehugo | operators like to come to forums though | 16:31 |
| gagehugo | s/like to/often | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | that's the part i'm kinda concerned about | 16:31 |
| gagehugo | but idk about the center concept | 16:31 |
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| cmurphy | lbragstad: so if you think operators should be the intended audience, does that mean you think the sessions should be condensed or left separate? | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | hmm | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | i was thinking condensed... but... | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | that was because the forum sessions would be specific to relaying information operators need to know about unified limits or policy migrations | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | then we have those conversations fresh in our minds for developers specific conversations later in the week? | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | i think i was expecting a forum session for each to suffice | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | but, maybe not? | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | i know some groups do 'part 1' and 'part 2' sessions at the forum? | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | s/?// | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | idk if people think that makes sense here | 16:36 |
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| kmalloc | i think for big topics it makes a lot of sense to part 1/2 it | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | reading melwitt's email it looks like she's also focused on gathering feedback from operators and users in both cases, and i think the feedback for nova will most likely apply to other projects, so i think it makes some sense to condense them and then dive deeper during the ptg if we need to | 16:37 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i certainly think those sessions will be useful for other services | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc how would you break it up into two sessions? | 16:39 |
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| cmurphy | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003894.html | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003951.html | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003994.html | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | nice - thanks | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | not sure | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | usually it's just been extended conversations with a focus on the groups present | 16:41 |
| kmalloc | e.g. nova/others | 16:41 |
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| lbragstad | does anyone else have opinions on what we should do here? | 16:44 |
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| lbragstad | otherwise - i would mind hearing from the foundation or melwitt on how we can consolidate and what that even looks like if we can do that | 16:46 |
| cmurphy | I think I lean toward either a) condensing both or b) condensing limits and keeping scope as part1/part2 | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | ok | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | i assume a is your preference? | 16:46 |
| cmurphy | only because it means slightly less running around :) | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | hey, i'm all for that | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | we should loop in melwitt and maybe diablo_rojo though? | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | if we consolidate, we might have to amend descriptions and whatnot | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | and we might still have to do that if we don't consolidate in order to differentiate the sessions | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | alright | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | sounds like we need to catch up with those two or jamesmcarthur | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | but we can do that at some point today | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have anything else to go over? | 16:49 |
| jamesmcarthur | hello | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | jamesmcarthur yo | 16:50 |
| lbragstad | we have some questions on forum sessions that probably need your help with | 16:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | sure, hit me | 16:50 |
| lbragstad | but we need melwitt to discuss it, too | 16:50 |
| lbragstad | i think | 16:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | ok - np | 16:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | i should be online most of today, otherwise feel free to email | 16:51 |
| lbragstad | can we ping in -dev if we congregate today? | 16:51 |
| lbragstad | alright - i don't have anything else | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | we have office hours in about 10 minutes for those interested | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | thanks for the time everyone! | 16:54 |
| cmurphy | thanks lbragstad!! | 16:54 |
| * lbragstad slides the keys to cmurphy | 16:54 | |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
| * cmurphy promptly drops them | 16:54 | |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 16:54:52 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-03-19-16.01.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-03-19-16.01.txt | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | lol | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-03-19-16.01.log.html | 16:54 |
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| diablo_rojo | lbragstad, what did you need me for? | 17:30 |
| diablo_rojo | forum changes? | 17:30 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo yeah - we'd like to sit down with some folks from the foundation about the forum schedule and melwitt | 17:30 |
| diablo_rojo | lbragstad, sure | 17:31 |
| diablo_rojo | I would get jamesmcarthur in discussions too | 17:31 |
| lbragstad | ack | 17:31 |
| lbragstad | i'll ping as soon as we get a group together | 17:31 |
| lbragstad | -dev maybe? | 17:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Works for me | 17:31 |
| lbragstad | ack thanks diablo_rojo | 17:31 |
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| diablo_rojo | There is technically a forum channel too, but not many people are in it so dev is probably easier | 17:32 |
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