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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  4 15:00:39 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
gouthamro/ hey!15:00
carlosshi :)15:00
gansohello15:00
erlon_Hola15:00
bswartzcourtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso15:01
bswartztbarron can't join us for the first ~30 minutes, so he asked me to chair the meeting today15:01
vhaririahey :)15:01
jgrossoHi15:01
erlon_bswartz, welcome back to the chair :)15:01
lsekihi15:02
carthacaHello15:02
amitohey. Here but my irc client is dying for some reason...15:02
vkmchey15:02
bswartz#topic announcements15:03
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)"15:03
bswartzSo the main thing is that the release is scheduled for April 1015:03
bswartzThere are no more RCs planned, so I hope there are no lurking bugs15:03
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bswartzAny questions/issues about the Stein release?15:04
bswartzAny other announcements?15:04
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:05
bswartz#topic DevStack plugin changes15:05
*** openstack changes topic to "DevStack plugin changes (Meeting topic: manila)"15:05
bswartzAttn: Third party CIs and devs: DevStack plugin changes - we will no longer support installing manila-tempest-plugin15:05
xyanghi15:05
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/646037/15:05
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/648716/15:06
bswartzgouthamr: is this your topic?15:06
gouthamrthanks bswartz15:06
* bswartz hands gouthamr a stein full of coffee15:06
* gouthamr hit and piping15:06
gouthamr:P15:06
gouthamrokay, wanted to call out attention to those patches ^15:07
gouthamrfor a couple of releases, we have been installing manila-tempest-plugin within manila's devstack plugin15:07
gouthamrwe're fixing that approach by adding devstack-plugin mechanism to manila-tempest-plugin15:08
gouthamrwhich means we'll stop installing manila-tempest-plugin and third party CIs must add another line to their manifests so they don't fail15:08
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bswartzOh interesting15:09
gouthamr"enable_plugin manila-tempest-plugin https://git.openstack.org/openstack/manila-tempest-plugin"15:09
* bswartz clicks links15:09
bswartz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/648716/7/devstack/README.rst15:10
bswartz^ This readme has the instructions for what developers need to do15:10
gouthamryeah, two motivations for this: 1) devstack's plugin mechanism understands all other devstack context (python version, what ref/branch to install, etc) - by not utilizing this we were going to have to do all of those things within manila's devstack plugin15:10
bswartzgouthamr: neither of these patches are merged yet...15:10
bswartzWhen do we want to merge them?15:11
gouthamr2) It's a lot cleaner for users to just set this line in their local.conf and have it install manila-tempest-plugin... :)15:12
gouthamrthese docs have asked to do it that way for a while now: https://docs.openstack.org/manila/latest/contributor/development-environment-devstack.html15:12
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gouthamrbswartz: i was holding off my +2 on it so we can have 3rd party CI maintainers ack this change..15:13
gouthamrnot many of them may be looking at those patches to see why it failed..15:13
bswartzSo should we ask for +1s from 3rd party CI maintainers?15:14
bswartzHow many do we want?15:14
gouthamror we can possibly merge and then send an email to openstack-discuss15:15
bswartzI see 7 3rd party CIs voted on this patch (if you count all the Dell ones as 1)15:15
erlongouthamr, so, after that merge there will be a window where both methods will work right?15:15
gouthamrerlon: not really, not having the "enable_plugin manila-tempest-plugin ..." will mean their CIs will break15:15
bswartzDo we have the contact info for all the CI maintainers?15:16
erlongouthamr, so, we will need to change it as soon as the patch merges?15:16
gouthamr#LINK https://review.openstack.org/#/c/646037/12/playbooks/legacy/manila-tempest-dsvm-generic-no-share-servers/run.yaml@3315:16
bswartzMaybe we should just blast them in addition to the ML15:16
bswartzA brief period of breakage doesn't sound terrible, maybe it will tell us who's paying attention and who isn't15:17
gouthamrbswartz: yes, i think we do, else i'll reach out to you and get it.. dustins had it at some point. I'll check15:17
bswartzProbably the best thing to do is to pick a date in the future and advertise that date15:17
bswartzThen make the change on that date15:18
gouthamrthat makes sense15:18
gouthamri'll take an AI to do this15:18
bswartzThanks15:18
bswartzAnything else on this topic?15:18
gouthamr#ACTION: gouthamr gather list of 3rd party CI maintainers and plan date for breaking-devstack plugin changes15:19
bswartz#topic Bugs15:19
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: manila)"15:19
bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad15:19
bswartzgrosso: you're up15:19
gouthamrbswartz: nope, that's it... anyone else, please ping tbarron/me if you need help. I think i know a thing or two about zuul and jenkins to help15:20
gouthamrbswartz: this one can be me as well, jgrosso is in an all-week-training session15:20
jgrossohey all dont have anything new today, still pushing to cleanup of older defects15:20
gouthamror not15:20
jgrossoin training but cheating15:20
gouthamr:) hey jgrosso15:20
jgrossohey :)15:20
gouthamrjgrosso: we have that on record now15:21
bswartzOh your name is misspelled in the agenda jgrosso15:21
jgrossoI dont have anything really new everyone has been doing great15:21
jgrossokeep it mispelled ;)15:21
jgrossono traceability15:21
jgrossokidding15:22
bswartzOh we have way of finding you15:22
gouthamrhahaha15:22
bswartzEverything leaves a trace on the internet15:22
gouthamri have one bug/fix that needs reviews15:22
jgrossohaha15:22
jgrossoyikes15:22
gouthamrAPI Ref fixups: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:+openstack/manila+message:%255Eapi-ref+status:open15:22
gouthamrmostly deletions and cleanup ^15:23
gouthamrand we had some users report some usability bugs with manila-ui that we fixed here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:+openstack/manila-ui+status:open15:23
bswartzOkay I'll put those on my list'15:24
bswartz#topic Open Discussion15:24
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)"15:24
gouthamrthanks bswartz15:24
bswartzAnything else for today?15:24
bswartzIf we end the meeting before 11:30, tbarron might come and find an empty room15:25
gouthamrnope, please add any PTG topics here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-denver-train-ptg-planning15:25
gouthamryour regularly scheduled friendly PTG reminder ^ :)15:25
bswartzOkay sounds like we're done15:26
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bswartzs/an/and/15:26
gouthamr+115:26
bswartzThanks all15:26
bswartz#endmeeting15:26
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Apr  4 15:26:58 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:27
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-04-04-15.00.html15:27
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-04-04-15.00.txt15:27
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-04-04-15.00.log.html15:27
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gouthamrthanks bswartz!15:27
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