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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 14 08:59:58 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:00 |
| priteau | Hi tetsuro | 09:00 |
| masahito | o/ | 09:00 |
| priteau | Hi masahito | 09:00 |
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| priteau | Good morning bertys_ | 09:01 |
| bertys_ | Hi | 09:02 |
| bertys_ | o/ | 09:02 |
| priteau | Agenda for today: | 09:03 |
| priteau | 1. Summit and PTG feedback | 09:03 |
| priteau | 2. AOB | 09:03 |
| priteau | #topic Summit and PTG feedback | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit and PTG feedback (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:03 | |
| priteau | We had a good summary from bertys_ last week | 09:03 |
| priteau | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-05-07-09.00.log.html | 09:04 |
| priteau | tetsuro: Do you have things to add to the summary that were not covered by bertys_? | 09:04 |
| priteau | In particular with regards to placement and ironic | 09:05 |
| masahito | I read the log. Thank you for the update session and feedback. | 09:05 |
| priteau | Thanks again tetsuro and bertys_ for participating in the summit and PTG :-) | 09:06 |
| * tetsuro looking | 09:06 | |
| tetsuro | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/005951.html | 09:08 |
| tetsuro | ^This note from Dmitry is also worth reading (the PTG: Ironic, Placement, Blazar section) | 09:09 |
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| priteau | I noticed this summary. I was wondering if you had more details to share on this topic or on other placement-related discussions, for example for making Blazar compatible with Ironic+Nova | 09:11 |
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| tetsuro | In Nova, we agreed we take https://review.opendev.org/#/c/609960/ and move on | 09:13 |
| tetsuro | ^ Support filtering of allocation_candidates by forbidden aggregates spec | 09:13 |
| tetsuro | which would be used as well for Ironic+Nova case, I think | 09:14 |
| priteau | Thanks. Somehow I missed the fact that this merged and even your comment from April 27 | 09:15 |
| priteau | I'll take another look at it and see how it compares with the experimental patch I've been working on (still WIP) | 09:16 |
| priteau | It's good news that this is moving forward! | 09:16 |
| tetsuro | Yes, this is nice. | 09:16 |
| priteau | Anything else interesting from Denver? | 09:18 |
| tetsuro | Bison meat is nice | 09:20 |
| masahito | :-) | 09:20 |
| priteau | heh | 09:21 |
| bertys_ | Just FYI - I have uploaded project update material to OpenStack website | 09:22 |
| tetsuro | Yes, I noticed that. Thank you bertys_ | 09:22 |
| priteau | Thanks bertys_, I forgot we could upload slides | 09:22 |
| priteau | I've got various AOB items to discuss, should we move on? | 09:23 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:24 | |
| priteau | We had the first IRC meeting in an Americas-friendly timezone last week | 09:25 |
| priteau | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-05-09-16.01.log.html | 09:25 |
| priteau | We had four participants in addition to me: two from University of Chicago, one from Indiana University and one from Red Hat | 09:26 |
| priteau | There was an interesting discussion about reservation usage enforcement | 09:26 |
| priteau | I will make a summary and send to the mailing list as it's worth continuing the discussion further | 09:27 |
| priteau | tzumainn from Red Hat is interested in Ironic compatibility, both as standalone and with Nova. | 09:27 |
| priteau | We should keep him updated as we make progress | 09:28 |
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| priteau | There are also several open patches on Gerrit that are easy to merge, if you can take a look in the next few minutes | 09:30 |
| priteau | Switch from git.openstack.org to opendev.org: | 09:30 |
| priteau | - blazar: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654821/ | 09:30 |
| priteau | - blazar-dashboard: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654824/ | 09:30 |
| priteau | - blazar-nova: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654825/ | 09:31 |
| priteau | - blazar-tempest-plugin: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654828/ | 09:31 |
| priteau | - python-blazarclient: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654755/ | 09:31 |
| priteau | Exception message fix: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/653647/ | 09:31 |
| priteau | Short patch but very useful fix for SIGHUP support: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/650635/ | 09:32 |
| priteau | I have tested the last one in DevStack, works great! | 09:34 |
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| priteau | masahito: Do you have an expected timeline for finishing the floating IP support? | 09:40 |
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| masahito | I don't have the timeline. I'm sticked to some tasks right now. | 09:41 |
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| priteau | No problem, I understand the feeling! | 09:42 |
| masahito | I'm heading to KubeCon next week. At least, I will be able to start this from end of May. | 09:42 |
| priteau | I just want to make sure we get it done early rather than late in the Train cycle :-) | 09:43 |
| priteau | Anything else for AOB? | 09:43 |
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| priteau | If not we can finish the meeting early | 09:46 |
| priteau | Thanks all for joining! | 09:46 |
| masahito | thanks! | 09:46 |
| priteau | masahito: will you skip the meeting next week? | 09:47 |
| masahito | maybe. The KubeCon is held in Barcelona. If the network works, I'll join. | 09:48 |
| priteau | Nice place for a meeting. Enjoy! | 09:48 |
| masahito | I guess the network at the keynote is not good :-) | 09:49 |
| masahito | Thank you. | 09:49 |
| priteau | Talk to you next week. | 09:49 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 09:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 14 09:49:36 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-05-14-08.59.html | 09:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-05-14-08.59.txt | 09:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-05-14-08.59.log.html | 09:49 |
| tetsuro | Thanks! | 09:49 |
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| cmurphy | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 14 16:00:24 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:00 |
| bnemec | Hey, my meeting notification works! | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | nice :) | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda | 16:01 |
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| kmalloc | bnemec: my meeting notification is "oh crap, I'm late... wait it's not tuesday, it's monday today" then I remember on tuesday normally | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | sounds very efficient | 16:01 |
| kmalloc | it happens every single week. so... sure? | 16:01 |
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| bnemec | Consistency is key | 16:02 |
| cmurphy | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:02 | |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:03 |
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| cmurphy | we discussed at the PTG about making the office hours more useful by planning them ahead of time, so I created a topic etherpad and will announce the topics beforehand | 16:03 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-office-hours-topics office hours topics | 16:04 |
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| cmurphy | so the office hour after today's meeting will be about liaison review and/or bug triaging | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | nice | 16:04 |
| gagehugo | ok | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | I also added the hour to the eavesdrop schedule - https://review.opendev.org/658909 I'm not sure if we had already documented it somewhere, lbragstad ? | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | oh - i don't think it was documented formally | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | that's a good idea | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | now there's an ics calendar people can import if they want to | 16:06 |
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| vishakha | nice | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | any questions/comments on this? | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | #topic Summit/PTG recap | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit/PTG recap (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:08 | |
| cmurphy | First of all we did a cycle retrospective which had some useful outcomes | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | #link https://trello.com/b/VCCcnCGd/keystone-stein-retrospective cycle retrospective | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | not all of the action items are super actionable but I will try to make a point of checking in on them at meetings | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | I wrote a keystone-focused recap, feel free to provide feedback: | 16:10 |
| cmurphy | #link http://www.gazlene.net/denver-forum-ptg-2019.html recap | 16:10 |
| cmurphy | did anyone else write a recap they want to share? | 16:10 |
| * lbragstad did not | 16:11 | |
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| ayoung | Nope | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | i recapped TC-related things and was about to start on a keystone one, then i read cmurphy's | 16:11 |
| ayoung | I'm just working on the doc I promised about Keystone sync | 16:11 |
| cmurphy | okay | 16:13 |
| cmurphy | we also worked through the roadmap board but it's still a bit of a mess, i'll do my best to organize it in a way that makes sense | 16:13 |
| cmurphy | #link https://trello.com/b/ClKW9C8x/keystone-train-roadmap roadmap | 16:13 |
| ayoung | That should be a rail map | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | haha | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | was great to see people that week, was sorry not everyone could join | 16:15 |
| knikolla | all aboard the keystone line | 16:15 |
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| cmurphy | any other comments about the forum or ptg? | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | great job organizing things cmurphy | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | :) | 16:17 |
| gagehugo | ++ | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | #topic retrospective actions followup | 16:19 |
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| cmurphy | there were a couple of things from the retrospective that i think are worth following up on already | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | #link https://trello.com/c/PaTQKtmC/62-use-fast8-for-local-pep8-testing Use fast8 for local pep8 testing | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | I don't think we assigned anyone to this | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | anyone want to volunteer? | 16:20 |
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| vishakha | I can | 16:21 |
| bnemec | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tools/flake8wrap.sh | 16:22 |
| cmurphy | awesome thanks vishakha | 16:22 |
| vishakha | np cmurphy | 16:22 |
| cmurphy | #action vishakha to take on fast8 tooling | 16:22 |
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| cmurphy | #link https://trello.com/c/QJbxGGb6/53-discuss-the-evolution-of-bug-tags Discuss the evolution of bug tags | 16:24 |
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| cmurphy | This was about expanding the use of things like the low-hanging-fruit tag to better describe sizing of bugs | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | we didn't come up with a specific plan at the time, anyone want to voice thoughts on how this might look? | 16:26 |
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| gagehugo | hmm | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | my knee-jerk reaction was to associate timing to different tags, but i'm not sure if that's a great idea | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | for two reasons 1.) timing is different across individuals 2.) do we want a cambrian explosion of tags? | 16:27 |
| cmurphy | good points | 16:29 |
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| gagehugo | sizing as in amount of work required? | 16:30 |
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| lbragstad | yeah - as an estimate | 16:30 |
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| cmurphy | i think this came up because we were talking about how to get 20%ers more involved | 16:30 |
| cmurphy | so it also has a little bit to do with how much background and context you need to solve the problem | 16:31 |
| gagehugo | simplest range I've ever used before was t-shirt sizes (S M L) | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | (this was also related to being more diligent about breaking everything down into smaller pieces of work, iirc) | 16:31 |
| cmurphy | right | 16:31 |
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| cmurphy | one issue is we already are inconsistent about when to use the low-hanging-fruit tag so adding other sizes would probably also introduce inconsistency based on who is doing the sizing | 16:35 |
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| lbragstad | ++ | 16:36 |
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| lbragstad | we could start by defining what exactly we mean by "low hanging fruit" | 16:37 |
| lbragstad | (in contributor documentation) | 16:37 |
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| cmurphy | ++ | 16:37 |
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| cmurphy | want to take a stab at that? | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | sure | 16:38 |
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| cmurphy | cool | 16:38 |
| hrybacki | What if there were two types of tags: <scope: s, m l> and <type: lhf, ...> ? And then document what each grouping roughly means | 16:38 |
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| cmurphy | hrybacki: what would another "type" tag be? | 16:41 |
| hrybacki | cmurphy: one could be low-hanging-fruit, lump the rest into 'generic' or something as a catch all | 16:41 |
| hrybacki | understand the want to avoid masses of tags | 16:41 |
| hrybacki | also leaves you room to expand in the future if needed | 16:42 |
| cmurphy | what would the difference be between type:low-hanging-fruit and scope:s ? | 16:42 |
| hrybacki | you could have a small scoped bug that isn't necessarily appropriate for someone looking to get into contributing | 16:43 |
| hrybacki | think of something kmalloc could fix in 30 minutes that might take someone unfamiliar with the project a few days | 16:43 |
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| * hrybacki is generalizing | 16:44 | |
| cmurphy | gotcha | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | hey, i can't fix anything in 30 minutes :P | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | it takes at least a week >.> | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | <.< | 16:44 |
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| kmalloc | /snark | 16:44 |
| hrybacki | :P | 16:44 |
| * kmalloc finishes over estimating timeframes to look like a superhero again. | 16:44 | |
| kmalloc | ^_^ | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | <type: oh heck, i don't even know how this works> <scope: s> | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | maybe let's start with documenting the use of the low-hanging-fruit tag and circle back to adding sizing options afterward? | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | #action lbragstad propose definition of low-hanging-fruit tag in contributor documentation | 16:46 |
| hrybacki | +1 | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | sounds good - i'll try and get that proposed by EOW | 16:46 |
| gagehugo | sounds good | 16:46 |
| cmurphy | great | 16:46 |
| cmurphy | okay, we have 13 minutes left, we could either start doing liaison review (it might only take 5 minutes i'm not really sure) or we could go to open discussion -> break before office hours, preferences? | 16:47 |
| * lbragstad is indifferent | 16:48 | |
| kmalloc | move liason review to -keystone in either case | 16:48 |
| kmalloc | so we don't need to swap channels. | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | good point | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | #topic open discussion | 16:49 |
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| cmurphy | I'll open the floor | 16:49 |
| * kmalloc dances on the open floor. | 16:49 | |
| cmurphy | any reviews to highlight? | 16:50 |
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| cmurphy | okay, I'll close the meeting, back in 7 minutes in #openstack-keystone for office hours | 16:53 |
| cmurphy | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 14 16:53:29 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-05-14-16.00.html | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-05-14-16.00.txt | 16:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-05-14-16.00.log.html | 16:53 |
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