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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 4 09:00:07 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
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| priteau | Good morning bertys | 09:03 |
| bertys | o/ | 09:03 |
| bertys | Hi all | 09:03 |
| priteau | We're waiting for tetsuro and masahito | 09:03 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:04 |
| priteau | Hi tetsuro | 09:04 |
| tetsuro | Thank you for the mention | 09:04 |
| priteau | Do you know if masahito is planning to join today? | 09:04 |
| tetsuro | I don't know... | 09:05 |
| tetsuro | Let me see if he's on internal chat | 09:05 |
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| tetsuro | No, he does not respond. | 09:08 |
| priteau | Thanks for trying | 09:08 |
| priteau | Let's start then | 09:08 |
| priteau | #topic Code review priorities | 09:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review priorities (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:08 | |
| priteau | I'd like to highlight patches that require attention from the team | 09:09 |
| priteau | Folks from NTT Data have submitted several interesting patches | 09:09 |
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| priteau | Some of these patches have been up for a while, but didn't get much attention due to focus on other areas for the Stein release. | 09:10 |
| priteau | Hi asmita, we were just discussing your patches :-) | 09:10 |
| asmita | Hi | 09:10 |
| asmita | Thank you so much for your review. | 09:11 |
| priteau | In particular I would like to get more reviews of these two: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/637140/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655837/ | 09:11 |
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| priteau | asmita: Sorry it took so long. I think they're good patches, just need a bit of improvement | 09:13 |
| priteau | Did you try adding microversion support to python-blazarclient already? | 09:13 |
| asmita | Thanks Pierre. I will work on your review comments. Not yet, haven't worked on adding microversion support in client. | 09:14 |
| priteau | OK. I will try to test it with curl soon. | 09:15 |
| tetsuro | Will have a look on the branch this week. Sorry to keep you waiting, asmita, but thank you very much | 09:17 |
| priteau | asmita: Do you know if Neha Alhat will be able to revisit their request_id patch? | 09:18 |
| asmita | Yes , we can add "OpenStack-API-Version:reservation 1.0" in headers of curl.. | 09:18 |
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| asmita | request_id patch will be addressed by me | 09:19 |
| priteau | Great, thanks! | 09:19 |
| asmita | Fixing the review comments of request _id patch is in progress | 09:19 |
| priteau | Sorry for taking so long to review this patch. It wasn't a priority for Stein so I focused on other patches first. | 09:20 |
| asmita | Tetsuro san, Thank you so much. | 09:20 |
| asmita | Better late than never, Pierre:) | 09:21 |
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| masahito_ | hi. sorry late | 09:21 |
| priteau | Hi masahito_ | 09:21 |
| asmita | Hi masahito san | 09:21 |
| masahito_ | hi priteau, asmita | 09:23 |
| priteau | masahito_: We're discussing patches that should be reviewed as a priority. I highlighted the patches from NTT Data with topic bug/1740091 | 09:23 |
| priteau | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/blazar+topic:bug/1740091 | 09:23 |
| priteau | It would be good to get your input, as you know well the API layer. | 09:24 |
| masahito_ | okay | 09:25 |
| masahito_ | I'll check it. | 09:25 |
| priteau | Are there other patches that you want to highlight for review? | 09:26 |
| priteau | This one is an easy +2: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662777/ | 09:29 |
| priteau | Sorry, wrong link | 09:29 |
| priteau | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/628469/ | 09:29 |
| priteau | masahito_: Is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/606875/ something we should add with a microversion? | 09:30 |
| masahito_ | Yes, if blazar supports microversion. | 09:32 |
| priteau | That's what asmita implemented ;-) | 09:32 |
| masahito_ | The asmita's patches support the microvesion from V1? | 09:32 |
| asmita | Yes V1 | 09:33 |
| masahito_ | I didn't read the previous discussion yet. One of my concern is should blazar support microversion from V1? or should start from V3? | 09:33 |
| priteau | I think it's fine to add it to v1. If you don't provide the microversion header, you would get the regular v1 API | 09:34 |
| masahito_ | okay, just for clarification. Is the regular v1 API latest microversion? or oldest version? | 09:36 |
| priteau | oldest version | 09:36 |
| priteau | see e.g. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655838/1/blazar/api/v1/api_version_request.py | 09:37 |
| masahito_ | got it. LGTM :-) | 09:38 |
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| priteau | My understanding is that it is modelled after Nova's microversions | 09:38 |
| asmita | yes exactly. | 09:39 |
| asmita | Nova and Cinder have microversion support | 09:40 |
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| priteau | asmita: If you have some time to implement the client support, it would be good to see how it all works together. | 09:41 |
| asmita | Sure thing Pierre. | 09:41 |
| priteau | Thank you | 09:42 |
| asmita | I would like some suggestions regarding patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/625783. | 09:42 |
| asmita | any suggestion will help. | 09:43 |
| priteau | I think masahito_ has a relevant comment here, specifically about the help message | 09:44 |
| priteau | I would also say "reduce" is not the right term | 09:44 |
| priteau | Why not use "defer" like for the lease start/end time? | 09:45 |
| asmita | Right. | 09:46 |
| priteau | I added it to Gerrit | 09:47 |
| priteau | Any other patches that we should be focusing on? | 09:47 |
| tetsuro | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/661680/ can go if no objection is made | 09:48 |
| priteau | Good point, do we have a +2 from masahito_ or bertys? | 09:49 |
| masahito_ | masahito_ is reading it | 09:50 |
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| priteau | We're almost out of time. Let's continue discussion on Gerrit. | 09:54 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:54 | |
| priteau | Anything else to discuss today? | 09:54 |
| asmita | For this patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/625783, masahito san is suggesting that: The 2 options should be a relative value from the previous before_end_date, but before_end_date is not in response of lease get api. so in that patch Neha Alhat has calculated from start date and end date. | 09:55 |
| masahito_ | LGTM for the validation spec | 09:55 |
| asmita | If we have to calculate it from previous before_end_date then we can return before_end_date in lease response under particular microversion. Kindly suggest. | 09:56 |
| priteau | asmita: I'll have to take a look at the API again. Let's discuss on Gerrit. | 09:57 |
| asmita | Sure thing. Thanks. | 09:57 |
| shilpasd | priteau, Tetsuro, masahito_: thank you for spec review | 09:58 |
| priteau | Thanks all for the good discussion today | 09:59 |
| priteau | Talk to you next week and until then on Gerrit | 09:59 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 4 09:59:38 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-06-04-09.00.html | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-06-04-09.00.txt | 09:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-06-04-09.00.log.html | 09:59 |
| masahito_ | thanks | 10:00 |
| tetsuro | thanks | 10:00 |
| asmita | Thanks | 10:01 |
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| cmurphy | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 4 16:00:56 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda | 16:01 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | I don't have much for today's agenda...feel free to add things | 16:02 |
| cmurphy | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:03 | |
| cmurphy | based on the polling, the best time to do our M-1 retrospective/check-in is pretty much the same times as the meetings, with an edge toward having it next week (which also gives me more time to prepare) | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | so it's scheduled for June 11 at 15:00 | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | i'll set up some kind of video conference call for it | 16:05 |
| knikolla | cool | 16:05 |
| gagehugo | 1500 utc? | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | are we going to use trello? | 16:05 |
| gagehugo | nvm I can't read | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | gagehugo: yes utc | 16:06 |
| gagehugo | lemme make a calender meeting before I forget | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: probably, unless you have another tool you want to experiment with :) | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | nope | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | i'm happy to explore non-proprietary alternatives to trello if someone else wants to put in the effort to finding one :) | 16:08 |
| cmurphy | any other questions/concerns about it? | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | i don't have an alternative to propose | 16:09 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | next announcement is that spec proposal freeze is this week | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | eh, trello is fine for now | 16:11 |
| cmurphy | afaict we're on track with that | 16:11 |
| cmurphy | with what we were expecting from the ptg | 16:11 |
| cmurphy | but it means we only have six weeks until the spec freeze date and 10 weeks until feature proposal freeze :) | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | that's fast | 16:13 |
| cmurphy | ikr | 16:13 |
| cmurphy | #topic open reviews | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:14 | |
| cmurphy | anyone have open reviews they want to highlight? | 16:14 |
| knikolla | i renamed and updated the "expiring users" spec | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | i started reviewing it right before the meeting | 16:15 |
| knikolla | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/604201/ | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: anything you want to highlight about the update? | 16:16 |
| knikolla | sure | 16:16 |
| knikolla | so the expiry is on the user now, and it gets refreshed only by logging in through the idp | 16:17 |
| knikolla | the app cred doesn't expire, the user does. but the app cred will get invalidated if the user logs in with less roles than the app cred has. | 16:18 |
| knikolla | regardless of user expiry. | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | at the ptg - wasn't there a case to set expiry on local users, too? | 16:18 |
| knikolla | i'm not sure. that wasn't in my notes. | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: do you remember what the case was? | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | no | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | wait. | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | i thought there was someone in the room that asked about that? | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | i could be hallucinating | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | there would be no way to do that in a backwards compatible way since the ttl is on the idp the user comes from | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | so the expiry was strictly for federation granted groups and granted roles | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | but no expiry on the local user itself. | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | all federation originated grant information would be subject to the expiry | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | but otherwise would look like a concrete role assignment until such time as it expires. | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | and it can only be refreshed by logging in via the IDP. | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | so expiration is only going to be an attribute of federated users? | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | of federated conveyed grants | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | it won't be a first-class attribute of users | 16:21 |
| cmurphy | the spec right now is on the users, not the grants | 16:21 |
| cmurphy | which was my understanding from the ptg | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | same here | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | it was supposed to be the addition of the group to the user and the grants. | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | to the user | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | the grants/inclusion to a group would have a TTL | 16:22 |
| knikolla | discussion was also for disabling users, since federation leaves a lot of db cruft | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | concrete user or otherwise | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | so federated user or local user linked (future) to federation | 16:23 |
| * kmalloc only remembers talking about the grant bits | 16:23 | |
| knikolla | from an implementation perspective, i don't like the expire on role assignment bits too much. | 16:23 |
| knikolla | but from a ux perspective it makes more sense. | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | originally we talked just about the group inclusion | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | because that would unblock group-conveyed roles to app creds | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | but it was (at the end) brought up that non-group conveyed roles could/should also be covered | 16:24 |
| knikolla | the idea behind my spec update, was that: expiring users, and allowing creation of app creds with non concrete roles (but check them every log in), would give the same result with less work. | 16:26 |
| knikolla | (minus trusts) | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | if we ever support linking federation to a concrete user for logins (not just mapped) | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | that will need to be reworked. | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | s/concrete/local user. | 16:27 |
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| cmurphy | we do support that | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | e.g. MOC and Red Hat separate IDPs to the same knikolla, with different permissions | 16:27 |
| knikolla | kmalloc: i think that is less important if we do spectroscope and do that there | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | knikolla: i'm fine with either way | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | just making sure it's clear what we're punting on if the user itself expires | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | spectroscope is a ways out still | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | spectroscope? | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: identity broker project | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | *service, whatever | 16:29 |
| * cmurphy didn't know it had a name | 16:29 | |
| kmalloc | it does now ;) | 16:29 |
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| knikolla | i'll have a look at the code/model changes required for expiring role assignment | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | needed a name so i could start discussing it without saying "that identity broker service that does a thing" | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | ;) | 16:29 |
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| knikolla | or group membership | 16:30 |
| knikolla | cause it has to be on both. | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | and like i said, i'm fine with punting on it. | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | as long as we are clear on where the lines are drawn for support to the end consumers | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | i don't want folks to be too confused on what functionality is provided internal to keystone | 16:31 |
| knikolla | ++, i'll propose both approaches as different specs and we can have that discussion during the next meeting | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | eh, don't do that | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | evaluate and pick one | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | offer the other option as an alternative to the spec | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | (in the alternative section) | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | we can re-spin the spec to swap the alternative if needed. | 16:32 |
| knikolla | alright | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | i trust you to make the choice that makes the most sense in the spec (implementation and ux wise) | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | make sure to get cern's input in either case | 16:33 |
| * knikolla brushes away impostor syndrome | 16:34 | |
| knikolla | thanks for the input | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | sounds good, thanks guys | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | any other reviews people want to highlight? | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | i have some patches to undo the app cred access rules config which had already merged https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:undo-access-rules-config | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | and the spec update for same https://review.opendev.org/661784 | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | also some spec repo cleanup which were action items from the ptg https://review.opendev.org/658893 https://review.opendev.org/658894 https://review.opendev.org/659159 | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | and one more is the vision reflection update https://review.opendev.org/662106 | 16:38 |
| cmurphy | sounds like no other reviews to highlight | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | #topic open discussion | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:40 | |
| cmurphy | no office hours after this since there aren't any topics | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | if there's nothing else to discuss we can close early and get a few minutes back | 16:43 |
| cmurphy | thanks everyone | 16:43 |
| cmurphy | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 4 16:43:27 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-06-04-16.00.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-06-04-16.00.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-06-04-16.00.log.html | 16:43 |
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