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| haixin | gouthamr: cloud you please review my spec about share type? | 02:17 |
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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 18 09:00:22 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
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| masahito | o/ | 09:00 |
| priteau | Hi masahito | 09:00 |
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| tetsuro | o/ | 09:01 |
| priteau | Hi tetsuro | 09:01 |
| priteau | I think Bertrand should be back from holiday today. | 09:03 |
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| bertys | o/ | 09:03 |
| priteau | Hi bertys | 09:03 |
| priteau | Topics for today | 09:04 |
| bertys | Hi all | 09:04 |
| priteau | 1. Code review priorities | 09:04 |
| priteau | 2. Floating IP reservation | 09:04 |
| priteau | 3. Placement API integration | 09:04 |
| priteau | 4. AOB | 09:04 |
| priteau | #topic Code review priorities | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review priorities (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:04 | |
| priteau | There's been some discussions on Asmita's patches | 09:05 |
| priteau | It would be good to get more input on it, it's a fairly big change | 09:06 |
| priteau | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/637140/ | 09:06 |
| priteau | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655837/ | 09:06 |
| priteau | tetsuro: it would be nice to get your opinion in particular on the usage of the placement client in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/637140/ | 09:07 |
| tetsuro | Yes, will have a look, sorry for being late | 09:08 |
| priteau | No problem | 09:09 |
| priteau | Also, minor patch from me for fixing the gate when requirements change: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663946/ | 09:10 |
| priteau | Thanks for the review tetsuro | 09:10 |
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| priteau | And the same change in other repos: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663949/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663950/ | 09:11 |
| priteau | If we can approve these requirements fixes today, we will be able to merge again patches that change requirements | 09:13 |
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| priteau | Thanks masahito for the review | 09:14 |
| masahito | np | 09:15 |
| priteau | tetsuro and bertys, could you please review these patches that don't yet have a W+1? | 09:17 |
| tetsuro | Done | 09:18 |
| priteau | Perfect, thanks! | 09:20 |
| priteau | Let's move to the next agenda item | 09:20 |
| priteau | #topic Floating IP reservation | 09:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Floating IP reservation (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:20 | |
| priteau | masahito: Are you able to work on the remaining action items for floating IP reservation? | 09:22 |
| masahito | yes. I've working on it since yesterday. | 09:22 |
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| priteau | Great! | 09:25 |
| priteau | On Chameleon they've been using floating IP reservation and have noticed some issues that they are fixing. I will track them and share with you. | 09:26 |
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| priteau | I think they're separate to what you're working on | 09:26 |
| masahito | okay, thanks. Reporting a bug is useful to track it :-) | 09:27 |
| priteau | Yes it will go on Launchpad | 09:27 |
| priteau | Looking forward to review your patches | 09:28 |
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| priteau | #topic Placement API integration | 09:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Placement API integration (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:30 | |
| priteau | tetsuro: Can you share what's next for integration with placement? | 09:30 |
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| tetsuro | 1. instance reservation via nova (almost done, what’s left is to consider allocation_ratio) | 09:32 |
| tetsuro | 2. host reservation via nova | 09:32 |
| tetsuro | 3. instance(baremetal) reservation via nova + ironic | 09:32 |
| tetsuro | 4. baremetal reservation ironic stand reservation | 09:32 |
| tetsuro | 4. baremetal reservation via ironic stand alone | 09:33 |
| priteau | Are you planning to work on them in this order? Do you need help on a specific one? | 09:33 |
| tetsuro | Well, 2 is heavy but what we get from this is just clean up | 09:34 |
| tetsuro | 1 is already planned so I guess 1 -> 4 -> 3 -> 2 order is appropreate | 09:35 |
| tetsuro | I'll have a time to repropose https://review.opendev.org/#/c/578641/ to the current spec repo | 09:36 |
| tetsuro | which describes what is left for 1. instance reservation via nova (almost done, what’s left is to consider allocation_ratio) | 09:37 |
| priteau | Does it make sense to prioritize 4 though? Ironic stand alone is not deployed widely. | 09:37 |
| tetsuro | Sure, if you want I can start a spec | 09:38 |
| priteau | I think host or instance reservation via Nova+Ironic would have more impact | 09:39 |
| tetsuro | Oh sorry I misunderstood | 09:39 |
| priteau | Also if we need changes from Nova (new request filter?) they would need to be requested soon before specs freeze | 09:39 |
| tetsuro | then 1 -> 3 -> 4 => 2, at least for 1 we don't need any request filters. | 09:40 |
| priteau | 2. is the current host reservation but without filter? | 09:42 |
| tetsuro | If you meant "without BlazarFilter" yes, that is it. | 09:42 |
| priteau | Yes, that's what I meant | 09:43 |
| priteau | Sounds like a good plan then! | 09:44 |
| priteau | Anything else to discuss on this topic? | 09:45 |
| tetsuro | I would appreciate if I could have feedback(traceback) from someone trying Nova+Ironic reservation with *current* instance plugin | 09:48 |
| tetsuro | Before I move to 3 from 1 since I'm not familiar with Ironic. | 09:48 |
| tetsuro | But, meh, if you have time or if you find someone interested in. | 09:49 |
| tetsuro | That's all from my side | 09:49 |
| priteau | I'll ask Chameleon folks if I can get it from them. They use host reservation but they have a dev environment that could be configured with instance reservation specifically for this | 09:49 |
| tetsuro | Good to know | 09:51 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:51 | |
| priteau | Anything else to share today? | 09:51 |
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| masahito | nothing from my side | 09:52 |
| priteau | Reminder that the CFP for the Shanghai summit is open until early July | 09:53 |
| priteau | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019 | 09:53 |
| priteau | Project updates are requested separately, closer to the summit | 09:54 |
| priteau | We should start thinking about it though. Should we request a project onboarding session this time? | 09:55 |
| priteau | And who's planning to be there? | 09:56 |
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| tetsuro | I'm coming to Shanhai | 09:57 |
| bertys | priteau: need to check internally first | 09:57 |
| masahito | I haven't decided to go there yet. | 09:57 |
| priteau | I might be there especially since I missed the last one in Denver. I will know closer to the date. | 09:58 |
| priteau | Less than 4 hours flight from Tokyo, I am jealous! | 09:58 |
| masahito | haha. right. It's very closed. | 09:59 |
| tetsuro | :) | 09:59 |
| priteau | We're out of time for today. Have a good week everyone, thanks for joining. | 09:59 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 18 10:00:01 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-06-18-09.00.html | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-06-18-09.00.txt | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-06-18-09.00.log.html | 10:00 |
| tetsuro | thanks | 10:00 |
| masahito | thanks | 10:00 |
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| cmurphy | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 18 16:00:22 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:00 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | #topic unified limits update | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "unified limits update (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:02 | |
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| cmurphy | lbragstad: it's all you | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | ok - so you might have picked up on some spam about oslo.limit recently | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | i decided to get that rolling after the retrospective last week | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | this is really just an update on all that stuff and a summary of the discussion we had last week | 16:04 |
| bnemec | \o/ | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | first off... the existing documentation we have is really stale | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | it's missing the strict-two-level enforcement model | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | and the descriptions of the enforcement models in general is pretty vague | 16:04 |
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| gagehugo | o/ | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | fortunately, we have a bunch of good documentation in the specs | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | (the general unified limit spec, the flat enforcement spec, the strict two level spec) | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | i want to port the useful bits over to formal docs | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:05 |
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| lbragstad | feels weird to pass people links to specs as formal documentation | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | #link https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/latest/admin/unified-limits.html | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664933/ is the update | 16:06 |
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| lbragstad | ok - moving on to oslo.limit | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | i had a discussion with john garbutt | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | which was carry over from the PTG | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | and the idea is to make oslo.limit's enforcement strategy really simple | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | we're trying to do that in a couple of ways | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | 1.) oslo.limit isn't going to do verification for race conditions, initially | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | 2.) we'll drop the idea of abstracting everything into a context manager, initially (we can add this later and right now it complicates some of the usage without a need for verification) | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | this should hopefully make it even easier for people to pick up the oslo.limit work and start consuming it | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | but - this kinda lines up with what we talked about at the PTG, specifically just getting something out the door that people can use | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | that said - i started ripping apart oslo.limit last week | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/665708/ (starting here) | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | ^ that chain gets us back to the basics | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | next i'm going to start incorporating the interface john worked on in his fork #link https://github.com/JohnGarbutt/oslo.limit/commits/interface-v2 | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | #link https://github.com/JohnGarbutt/oslo.limit/commits/interface-v2 | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | i'll also be re-proposing some of the stuff wxy-xiyuan did with ksa and openstacksdk | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | i'd like to have all that ready for review by the EOW | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | if anyone's interested in helping out with that, just let me know | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | or if you just want to be a part of the interface planning bits, we can use tmate and hop on a call to work through stuff | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | for context | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | here is the discussion i had with john where we walked through the basic requirements we need to hit before nova can start using this | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2019-06-13.log.html#t2019-06-13T16:31:15 | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | and i also had an interesting discussion with another openstack developer about toggling oslo.limit to not query keystone for unified limit information and instead go into a local mode | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-oslo/%23openstack-oslo.2019-06-14.log.html#t2019-06-14T00:41:01 | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | i'm not sure how all that would work, yet... but i wanted to advertise it to the group in case anyone found that interesting | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | that's about all i have, does anyone have comments, questions, or concerns about the unified limit/oslo.limit work? | 16:13 |
| cmurphy | the point of having it in keystone is that's where the projects are, if you don't have keystone then you don't have projects | 16:13 |
| bnemec | That gets us back to the problem of the service owning the database definition, but oslo.limit needing to interact with it directly. | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy bnemec | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | right | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | is it safe to say we're not going to support that? | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | and that oslo.limit will be tailored to "unified limits" | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | i just think there can't be a concept of a project-based quota if there's no keystone involved | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | that's fair | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | i'm not sure if there was another aspect of non-project based enforcement i missed in that discussion | 16:15 |
| bnemec | lbragstad: I'm inclined to say yes. We couldn't find a sane way to do this without unified limits in the past, so I don't think we should try to support that case. | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | but it feels like doing that would go against openstack's concept of tenancy | 16:16 |
| * lbragstad nods | 16:16 | |
| bnemec | I suppose it's possible we could support non-keystone backends at some point, but that's waaaaay down my priority list at the moment. | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | sure | 16:17 |
| * lbragstad appreciates the sanity check | 16:17 | |
| lbragstad | any other comments, questions, or concerns? | 16:18 |
| * bnemec hopes this isn't an insane echo chamber ;-) | 16:18 | |
| bnemec | I've got nothing else. Thanks for pushing on this. | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | thanks for the update lbragstad | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | yep! | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | #topic | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:20 | |
| cmurphy | er | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | #topic Remove [signing] config | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Remove [signing] config (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:20 | |
| cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659434 | 16:21 |
| * bnemec notes that there is a #undo | 16:21 | |
| cmurphy | too late now | 16:21 |
| vishakha | Since all the options of [signing] are deprecated, and those options are used in os_simple_cert API. | 16:21 |
| vishakha | So I was wondering how to remove the options but not removing the API. | 16:21 |
| vishakha | I wasnt able to find the solution for that | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | vishakha i just left a comment | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | but you might be able to remove the implementations | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659434/9/keystone/api/os_simple_cert.py | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | and just return empty response objects | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | (don't use the CONF object at all) | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | the API would still exist but it would always return the same thing and we could remove the configuration | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | (i think we took a similar approach with the revocation list API?) | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | yep i think so | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | vishakha: does that make sense? | 16:26 |
| vishakha | lbragstad: Wont it create a problem when user will use this API https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/identity/v3/#list-revoked-tokens | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | users will still be able to call the API, but it will always return the same thing | 16:26 |
| * lbragstad digs up an example | 16:26 | |
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| lbragstad | was it https://opendev.org/openstack/keystone/src/branch/master/keystone/api/auth.py#L262-L268 ? | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | #link https://opendev.org/openstack/keystone/src/branch/master/keystone/api/auth.py#L262-L268 | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | there we're actually raising a 403, you can ignore that part i think | 16:29 |
| cmurphy | maybe kmalloc remembers ^ | 16:29 |
| vishakha | lbragstad: ohh yes. Ok thanks | 16:30 |
| cmurphy | okay great | 16:31 |
| vishakha | Skipping that part is a good option | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | hmmm. | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | like this | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | #link https://pasted.tech/pastes/5e06b00e9e7a050b973700f32c24a8668277b1d1.raw | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | just make it an empty request | 16:32 |
| vishakha | lbragstad: thanks I will update it | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | yeah a 403 was chosen there because it required signing certs | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | you can totally just make it respond with an empty json doc (the api in question) instead, as if no certs were defined. | 16:33 |
| vishakha | kmalloc: ok thanks | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | cool | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | #topic open reviews | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:34 | |
| cmurphy | anyone have reviews they would like to call out? | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/665231/ closes a couple of bugs | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | nice | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | i have some spec cleanups that have been open for a while | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/658893 | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | i saw one of those passing zuul now | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | i can take a look today | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/658894 | 16:35 |
| vishakha | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/665313/ just a url update | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/659159 | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/662106 mission statement update | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | vishakha what's the story behind updating https://review.opendev.org/#/c/665313/1 ? | 16:36 |
| bnemec | That's the recommended url for u-c now. | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | oh - sweet | 16:39 |
| bnemec | Let me see if I can find the thread about it. | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | so it was on the mailing list | 16:40 |
| bnemec | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006647.html | 16:41 |
| bnemec | Or maybe http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006478.html | 16:42 |
| bnemec | Which is linked from the first one. | 16:42 |
| lbragstad | thanks | 16:43 |
| vishakha | lbragstad: That was a long mail chain on which I read about it. I will summarize and will share it to you after meeting | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | it makes sense - i was just thinking it would be useful to link to that in the commit message | 16:44 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 16:44 |
| vishakha | lbragstad cmurphy Sure I will add it to commit message | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | great | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | #topic open discussion | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:45 | |
| cmurphy | no office hours after this | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | any other business to cover? | 16:45 |
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| cmurphy | alright we'll close the meeting and get a few minutes back | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | thanks everyone | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 18 16:48:24 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-06-18-16.00.html | 16:48 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-06-18-16.00.log.html | 16:48 |
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