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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 9 09:00:26 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
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| tetsuro | o/ | 09:01 |
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| bertys | o/ | 09:01 |
| priteau | Hi tetsuro and bertys | 09:01 |
| priteau | Masahito said he was on travel today | 09:03 |
| priteau | #topic Code review priorities | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review priorities (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:04 | |
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| priteau | tetsuro: I see you resubmitted the spec "Follow resource provider inventories" in the blazar-specs repo. Are there any functional changes to it? | 09:05 |
| tetsuro | Nope but I think I should amend the assignee and the history | 09:06 |
| priteau | Good idea | 09:06 |
| priteau | Are you planning to work on the implementation of this spec during Train? | 09:07 |
| tetsuro | Yes I am | 09:09 |
| priteau | Great, thanks. | 09:10 |
| priteau | Let's review this spec quickly then | 09:10 |
| priteau | What about other placement activities, do you have anything else planned? | 09:10 |
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| tetsuro | If I have time I'd like to look into ironic integration. | 09:13 |
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| priteau | That would be good especially if we need Nova changes in this cycle, freeze is going to happen soon. | 09:14 |
| priteau | Sorry, I haven't obtained the backtrace you requested yet. Let me send an email right now. | 09:14 |
| priteau | Done, I will try to get the backtrace this week | 09:16 |
| priteau | . | 09:16 |
| priteau | tetsuro: You said you had an answer for cdent's question at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666202/ ? | 09:17 |
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| priteau | There's also a new patch from Asmita: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669079/ | 09:21 |
| tetsuro | Right. I'll have a re-review | 09:21 |
| priteau | Easy reviews of the day: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666924/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669144/ | 09:23 |
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| priteau | Thanks for the reviews bertys | 09:27 |
| tetsuro | Thanks! | 09:28 |
| priteau | I'll take another look at the whole patch series from Asmita | 09:28 |
| priteau | Thanks for the patches for blazar specs tetsuro | 09:28 |
| bertys | thanks priteau and sorry for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668642/. I have missed this one | 09:29 |
| tetsuro | pleasure | 09:29 |
| priteau | Let's move to the next topic | 09:31 |
| priteau | #topic Network segment reservation | 09:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Network segment reservation (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:31 | |
| priteau | Network segment reservation has already been implemented downstream for Chameleon (by me) and now Jacob Colleran is pushing it upstream, which is great. | 09:32 |
| priteau | Patch is at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668749/ | 09:32 |
| priteau | There might still be some Chameleon-specific oddities in the code, I haven't reviewed fully yet. | 09:32 |
| priteau | It's also not passing many tests | 09:32 |
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| priteau | I've also started working on a spec so that we can approve the API and DB schema for this feature, will try to finish it soon. | 09:33 |
| priteau | It's a good feature to have in Train to complete our Neutron integration. | 09:33 |
| tetsuro | ...and looks like that Chameleon has ironic support. Is it possible to upstream it or make it open somehow? | 09:37 |
| priteau | Chameleon relies on Nova changes that were rejected upstream (changes to how host aggregate work) | 09:37 |
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| tetsuro | I see | 09:37 |
| priteau | Instead we've been advised to use placement aggregates | 09:37 |
| tetsuro | but we could re-use the ironic clients code? | 09:38 |
| priteau | The one that is in Jacob's patch? Yes, though it may need to be made smarter to detect when a host is an Ironic node. | 09:39 |
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| priteau | It can be added back later when we have Ironic support upstream | 09:40 |
| tetsuro | I got it. | 09:40 |
| tetsuro | Thanks | 09:41 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:43 | |
| priteau | Anything else to cover today? | 09:43 |
| tetsuro | nope | 09:44 |
| bertys | nope | 09:44 |
| priteau | Nothing from me either so we can end early. Thanks for joining folks. | 09:44 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 09:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 9 09:44:54 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-07-09-09.00.html | 09:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-07-09-09.00.txt | 09:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-07-09-09.00.log.html | 09:44 |
| tetsuro | Thanks pierre and bertys | 09:45 |
| bertys | thanks | 09:45 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 9 15:00:28 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | don't run away and don't be alarmed, i'm just filling in for cmurphy today since she has a conflict | 15:01 |
| * bnemec is being indoctrinated to IBM...again | 15:01 | |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: i think you're an hour early | 15:01 |
| * lbragstad sigh | 15:01 | |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 9 15:01:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| lbragstad | just kidding | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-09-15.00.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-09-15.00.txt | 15:02 |
| cmurphy | :) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-09-15.00.log.html | 15:02 |
| cmurphy | practice meeting | 15:02 |
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| bnemec | :-) | 15:03 |
| lbragstad | i just wanted to make sure the meeting bot was awake | 15:04 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 9 16:00:01 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:00 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | ^ agenda | 16:00 |
| bnemec | o/ | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | we'll give folks another minute or two to jion | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | join* | 16:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | #topic midcycle planning | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "midcycle planning (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:03 | |
| cmurphy | o/ | 16:03 |
| cmurphy | so the doodle poll results are in and we'll hold the midcycle monday/tuesday july 22/23 14:00-17:00 UTC | 16:03 |
| cmurphy | I could still use help with agenda planning though, if folks could add +1s to topics they think are most worthwhile to discuss that would help | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-train-midcycle-topics | 16:04 |
| gagehugo | cool | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | #info virtual midcycle will take place Monday, July 22nd 14:00 - 17:00 and Tuesday, July 23rd 14:00 - 17:00 UTC | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy do you have a hard cut off for when you want the schedule built out? | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: i'm hoping by the end of the week, but it's probably okay if it's a little fluid until week-of | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | ok | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | any other questions or thoughts about the midcycle? | 16:06 |
| gagehugo | not atm | 16:08 |
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| lbragstad | ok - sounds like we can move on then | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #topic including oslo.limit in train | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "including oslo.limit in train (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:08 | |
| lbragstad | bnemec o/ | 16:08 |
| bnemec | Hey | 16:09 |
| bnemec | I saw in the last release update email that the deadline for inclusion into Train is coming up. | 16:09 |
| bnemec | Which I _think_ means if we want to do a release of oslo.limit this cycle we need to do it soon. | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-July/007552.html | 16:09 |
| bnemec | Thanks | 16:10 |
| bnemec | I realize no one's going to have switched to it yet this cycle, but without a release it will be tougher to test in other projects. | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | i know we talked about oslo.limit stuff a couple of weeks ago during this meeting | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | i need to get started on those action items | 16:10 |
| lbragstad | but it sounds like we just need *a* release, right? | 16:11 |
| bnemec | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Just release it as-is so we have a placeholder and can do further releases later in the cycle. | 16:11 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:12 |
| cmurphy | that sounds fine to me | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | just a v 0.1.0 | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | ? | 16:12 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, whatever our minimum version is. | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | ok | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | i can take an action to do that today | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to propose an oslo.limit release and follow up with tonyb to make sure it is included in Train | 16:14 |
| bnemec | Cool, thanks. | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | np - thanks for raising that | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | #topic spec reviews | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "spec reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:14 | |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/624692 (immutable resources) | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | https://review.opendev.org/604201 (expiring group membership) | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/604201 (expiring group membership) | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/661837 (expose root domain) | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | looks like all of those need some eyes - i have some comments to address on the last one | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | so we're a couple weeks out from spec freeze so i thought it would be good to get some updates on the remaining open specs | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | immutable resources has 2 +2s but it would be nice to have someone else give it a last look and push the button | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | i guess i co-authored that one | 16:16 |
| gagehugo | I'll take a look | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | ty | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: any update on the expiring group membership spec? | 16:18 |
| knikolla | cmurphy: no updates as of now, the past few weeks i haven't had the change to touch anything keystone | 16:18 |
| knikolla | i have set time aside this week to catch up on work | 16:18 |
| knikolla | rest of today i will update the spec and respond to comments | 16:18 |
| cmurphy | okay | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: any concerns about the expose root domain spec? | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | i'll be responding to your comments today, too | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | i won't be able to work on it though | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | hmm okay | 16:20 |
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| cmurphy | can anyone else volunteer to pick up that work for this cycle? | 16:20 |
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| cmurphy | if not maybe we should change it from the train/ directory to backlog/ | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | that makes sense | 16:21 |
| gagehugo | ++ | 16:23 |
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| cmurphy | okay sounds like we may have to do that | 16:24 |
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| cmurphy | #agreed move https://review.opendev.org/661837 to Backlog instead of Train | 16:24 |
| * lbragstad left a comment on the review | 16:25 | |
| lbragstad | i'll address those today | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | thanks lbragstad | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | mhmmm | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | anything else on spec discussion? | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | that's all i had on those topics | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | cool | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | moving on | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | #topic open reviews | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:26 | |
| lbragstad | i wouldn't mind another set of eyes on the unified limits doc | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664933/ | 16:26 |
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| cmurphy | i wanted to bring attention to https://review.opendev.org/637305 though i just realized it's in merge conflict, will fix but otherwise it's ready to go | 16:27 |
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| lbragstad | cool | 16:27 |
| cmurphy | also this was one outcome from the ptg that i'd like feedback on https://review.opendev.org/669004 | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | i remember that conversation - i'll take a look | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | ty | 16:28 |
| vishakha | I added support for app creds in sdk https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669331/. Open for review | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | nice vishakha | 16:28 |
| vishakha | Also https://review.opendev.org/#/c/660609/ needs one more +2 | 16:30 |
| gagehugo | vishakha: done | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | nice | 16:30 |
| vishakha | cmurphy lbragstad gagehugo thanks | 16:31 |
| lbragstad | any other reviews that need attention? | 16:32 |
| vishakha | One last https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659434/ | 16:32 |
| cmurphy | oh that one i wanted to talk about here | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | i'm not sure i agree with changing the error message | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | anyone else have thoughts on it? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659434/21/keystone/exception.py | 16:33 |
| gagehugo | hmm | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | the status code remains the same | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | right | 16:34 |
| vishakha | sure. we can have more thoughts over it | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy you want to keep it the same? | 16:34 |
| gagehugo | I would assume it should say that the API is no longer supported or available | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | i'm on the fence, i guess the new error message is much more honest but the old one was kind of technically correct | 16:35 |
| lbragstad | after reading the old one, i wouldn't want operators to go digging in configuration files to fix a 500 when they can't really do anything about it anyway | 16:36 |
| gagehugo | maybe mix them together, keep the first sentence of the old one but change the second half to say it's no longer supported? | 16:36 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: that's fair | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | i think technicall we should be using a 410 for this? | 16:37 |
| lbragstad | technically* | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | gagehugo: that makes sense, maybe "Expected signing certificates are not available on the server because the OS-SIMPLE-CERT API is no longer supported" | 16:37 |
| lbragstad | +1 | 16:38 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: i wouldn't want to change the code for this | 16:38 |
| gagehugo | cmurphy: yeah | 16:38 |
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| lbragstad | because we technically can't, right | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | ? | 16:38 |
| cmurphy | right | 16:38 |
| cmurphy | well maybe we technically can change a 5XX->4XX but i don't think it's appropriate | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | how so? | 16:39 |
| cmurphy | we deliberately raised a 500 before and i think it makes sense to keep it because the reason for raising it isn't different (the server isn't set up to handle it) | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:41 |
| lbragstad | i guess with 500s a client might retry intermittently hoping the server issue has been resolved | 16:42 |
| lbragstad | with a 410 the server is explicitly saying "no matter how many times you ask for this resource, it no longer exists" | 16:42 |
| cmurphy | that's valid | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | i can see both sides | 16:43 |
| * lbragstad stops playing devil's advocate | 16:44 | |
| cmurphy | i feel like we're crossing the line of changing this API if we fully admit that it's Gone, where everything else in that patch tries to keep things mostly the same except for the removed config options | 16:45 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i can see that | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | it's like if we changed the revocation API to return a 410 instead of [] | 16:46 |
| cmurphy | that wouldn't have been right | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that would have been going from 200 to 410 | 16:46 |
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| lbragstad | so we have the following options | 16:48 |
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| lbragstad | 1.) keep the API the same and return a 500 | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | optionally improve the error message to be more informative that the API is actually gone | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | 2.) make the http status code reflect the error message and advertise a 410 Gone | 16:50 |
| cmurphy | i'm in favor of 1, but i imagine kmalloc might have an opinion on it and/or we can ask the api-sig for advice | 16:51 |
| lbragstad | #1 doesn't change the API but might be misleading to clients (especially non-human clients) | 16:51 |
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| lbragstad | #2 is a higher bar | 16:51 |
| lbragstad | +1 to asking the api sig | 16:52 |
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| vishakha | Should I ask api-sig team for this then? | 16:53 |
| cmurphy | we could bring it up at their next office hour session | 16:53 |
| vishakha | That seems a good option | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#API_Special_Interest_Group_office_hours | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | 4 minutes left | 16:56 |
| lbragstad | anything else for reviews? | 16:56 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:57 |
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| cmurphy | i don't have anything for office hours today | 16:58 |
| cmurphy | but i think we should do a bug triage next week | 16:58 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:58 |
| lbragstad | anything else? | 16:59 |
| cmurphy | thanks for chairing lbragstad | 16:59 |
| lbragstad | anytime cmurphy | 16:59 |
| vishakha | thanks all | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 9 17:00:10 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-09-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-09-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
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