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| tbarron | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 11 15:01:01 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:01 |
| lseki | hi | 15:01 |
| carloss | hey :) | 15:01 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
| ganso | hello | 15:01 |
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| tbarron | courtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel lseki carloss | 15:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| vhariria | hi | 15:01 |
| xyang | hi | 15:01 |
| * tbarron waits a minute | 15:02 | |
| amito | Hello | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ok, let's get started, Hi everyone! | 15:02 |
| tbarron | Agenda: | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:03 |
| tbarron | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:04 |
| tbarron | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
| tbarron | Anyone have any? | 15:04 |
| tbarron | I'll just remind that M2 is in two weeks. | 15:04 |
| tbarron | #topic Our Work - specs | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Our Work - specs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:05 | |
| tbarron | And M2 is our spec approval deadline | 15:05 |
| tbarron | We have two specs not merged yet. | 15:06 |
| tbarron | Both seem to be quite close. | 15:06 |
| tbarron | #LINK: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/644218 | 15:06 |
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| tbarron | This is the OSC client integration spec | 15:06 |
| tbarron | I've been watching this one and re-reading it as it has made progress | 15:07 |
| tbarron | Thanks to vkmc for getting it started and to | 15:07 |
| tbarron | enriquetasso and s0ru for continuing the work | 15:07 |
| tbarron | And to Goutham for lots of good review. | 15:08 |
| s0ru | tbarron, i'm making my best effort | 15:08 |
| s0ru | o/ | 15:08 |
| tbarron | I think we're probably ready to merge this and get the implementation under way. | 15:08 |
| tbarron | Does anyone else want to review this one first? | 15:09 |
| tbarron | OK, I plan to workflow this one later today then. | 15:09 |
| s0ru | gouthamr++ , thanks :) | 15:09 |
| tbarron | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/609537 | 15:10 |
| tbarron | This is dviroel's spec for creating share from snapshots in another pool or back end | 15:10 |
| tbarron | It's had lots of good review from gouthamr | 15:11 |
| dviroel | Yes, thanks gouthamr! | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | s0ru: you're welcome - imo we've settled some huge issues, but there may be things that will need to change further; we'll review that during implementation | 15:11 |
| tbarron | I'm of the opinion that this is about ready to merge and we can ^^^ | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:11 |
| tbarron | bswartz: do you want to give this one another read? | 15:11 |
| s0ru | gouthamr, sure! | 15:12 |
| bswartz | tbarron: sure | 15:12 |
| tbarron | bswartz: thanks, if you're ok with it then unless someone else says they want to do a review we'll go ahead and merge it | 15:13 |
| bswartz | Will do | 15:13 |
| tbarron | dviroel: nice work! | 15:13 |
| dviroel | tbarron: thanks | 15:13 |
| tbarron | #topic Cross-team cycle goals | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cross-team cycle goals (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:13 | |
| tbarron | gouthamr added this topic | 15:14 |
| tbarron | PDF doc creation | 15:14 |
| tbarron | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/train/pdf-doc-generation.html | 15:14 |
| tbarron | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007301.html | 15:14 |
| tbarron | I thought this one would be more or less done centrally and we wouldn't have a lot to do but ... | 15:15 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: you're up | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | ack, ty tbarron | 15:15 |
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| gouthamr | so, i can't open the ML link for some reason, but while i try: | 15:16 |
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| gouthamr | we need a volunteer to start this goal for us | 15:16 |
| tbarron | Yeah that email from the docs PTL solicits volunteers to help tweak our docs so that they can be convereted to PDFs | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | each project has its own documentation, and may use different sphinx extensions - so this makes it harder for a central doc team to drive this effort | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | so the sooner we get started, the easier it will get; is the message i get | 15:18 |
| tbarron | the team working on this includes some very high quality people: tosky, johnsom, bogdando, amotoki | 15:19 |
| tbarron | And donny Davis whose nick I don't know | 15:20 |
| tbarron | from nova | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | there are some patches from modred and bogdando that can be used as starting points | 15:20 |
| tbarron | So if you have an interest in this, let me know. | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | #LINK: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:build-pdf-docs | 15:21 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: do you have more on this topic? | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: nope.. | 15:23 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: thanks | 15:23 |
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| tbarron | #topic bugs | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:23 | |
| tbarron | jgrosso is on vacation so vhariria you are up, and thanks for filling in | 15:24 |
| vhariria | hey all | 15:24 |
| vhariria | we don't have any new open bugs | 15:24 |
| vhariria | can look at a few open sev MED bugs | 15:25 |
| vhariria | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad | 15:25 |
| vhariria | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1833766 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1833766 in Manila "Microversions tempest tests expect no other "Vary" headers" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Liron Kuchlani (lkuchlan) | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | ^ this one is fixed with https://review.opendev.org/668622 | 15:26 |
| tbarron | cool | 15:26 |
| vhariria | gouthamr: yes, it was merged | 15:26 |
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| gouthamr | yeah, for downstream consumers, i'm requesting a release here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670172/ | 15:27 |
| vhariria | gouthamr: I will update the bug ty | 15:27 |
| vhariria | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1617490 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1617490 in Manila "[doc] Add neutron driver for binding" [Medium,New] | 15:28 |
| vhariria | this one is unassigned - should it be assigned to Nabanita Dash for follow up? | 15:29 |
| tbarron | vhariria: yes, and we can adjust its milestone | 15:29 |
| tbarron | M3 stein would be appropriate | 15:29 |
| vhariria | tbarron: will do | 15:30 |
| vhariria | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1822415 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1822415 in Manila "[zfsonlinux] job migration tests are failing" [Undecided,New] | 15:30 |
| vhariria | this one's been out there for a while - any recent results on this one? | 15:31 |
| tbarron | vhariria: not that I know of, I can look to see if we're still seeing the issue | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | i look at this job from time to time, but haven't seen a bulk failure on teh migration tests as the bug indicates.. maybe we can query the infra grafana dashboard | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | this driver implements driver-optimized migration; so it's not exercising the data service | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | error however looks similar to | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1557636 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557636 in Manila "ZFSonLinux fails to unmount dataset sometimes" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Ben Swartzlander (bswartz) | 15:35 |
| * bswartz ducks | 15:35 | |
| bswartz | This is a thorny one | 15:36 |
| vhariria | tbarron / grouthamr: thanks .. any feedback is helpful to decide next steps | 15:36 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure how to fix the ZFS unmount problems | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | "From time to time, we see error in ZFSonLinux CI where some share cannot be unmounted because it is, as CI thinks, already unmounted." -> this might still be happening, bswartz? | 15:37 |
| bswartz | Could be | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | vhariria: ack, yeah.. low seems a good priority to assign to this one, since no-one has reported it outside of the CI jobs | 15:39 |
| bswartz | The original problem was very rare, and because I never fully understood it, we might never have added any code to work around it | 15:39 |
| vhariria | gouthamr: will do | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | these API tests don't try accessing the share on the data path | 15:40 |
| vhariria | any more thought on this one? | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | so possible that the share creation had some issue - i.e., setting up the mount | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | nope, just spitballing - tbarron | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | proposed a change to run the tests again | 15:41 |
| vhariria | :) | 15:41 |
| vhariria | k .. one more to look at | 15:41 |
| tbarron | yeah let's get a fresh look, thanks for bringing this one up vhariria | 15:41 |
| * gouthamr although we might have gotten a first look to the ipv6 implementation of the ceph-fs driver in there :D | 15:42 | |
| vhariria | tbarron: sure thing | 15:42 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: heh | 15:42 |
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| tbarron | will fix | 15:42 |
| tbarron | rough stuff that | 15:43 |
| vhariria | 3 2 1 ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1607422 | 15:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1607422 in Manila "[api] manila API returns HTTP 404 NotFound even when the resource that it raised the error for is not part of the URI" [Medium,New] | 15:43 |
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| vhariria | any chance this is dup of or related to bugs jgrosso suggested? | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | ... in the general category of API inconsistencies ... | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | vhariria: one of them is related | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | i'll copy over the comment from that bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1607405/comments/3 | 15:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1607405 in Manila "[API] not all manila APIs report asynchronous resource creation with the correct response code" [Wishlist,Opinion] | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | "It seems too small a gain to go fix past mistakes to adhere to HTTP standards. We can accept that our APIs are not perfect, and ensure (as we've been doing since OpenStack has had an API-SIG, and we nominated a liaison for it) that we don't repeat these mistakes." | 15:45 |
| vhariria | gouthamr: ack ty | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | echo bswartz | 15:45 |
| bswartz | :-p | 15:46 |
| bswartz | Is that something I said before? | 15:46 |
| bswartz | It sounds like something I would say | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | hehe, yes :) | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | it's true though, none of our new APIs have inconsistencies (TM) | 15:48 |
| tbarron | so we're going to go with WON'T FIX ... ? | 15:49 |
| tbarron | not challenging that, just being explicit | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: good point, probably better than wishlist | 15:49 |
| tbarron | less kicking the can | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | making changes will require microversion bumps; and this bug is too general.. | 15:49 |
| tbarron | agree | 15:50 |
| vhariria | agreed | 15:50 |
| tbarron | other fish to fry | 15:50 |
| * tbarron is working on his cliches today | 15:50 | |
| * gouthamr goes buys halibut | 15:50 | |
| tbarron | vhariria: let's look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1831983 for a minute | 15:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1831983 in Manila "Manila 8.0.0 stein GPFS Driver index error" [Undecided,New] | 15:50 |
| bswartz | so many fish references..... | 15:51 |
| * gouthamr wonder who works for IBM here | 15:51 | |
| * bswartz resists urge | 15:51 | |
| tbarron | for i in list; do /me slaps $i with trout; done | 15:51 |
| * gouthamr hey! | 15:52 | |
| tbarron | so it looks like these folks are getting output from gpfs back end with escaped newlines? | 15:52 |
| vhariria | interesting! | 15:53 |
| tbarron | so that split() isn't finding regular whitespace and they need to supply '\\n' | 15:53 |
| tbarron | I'm inclined to ask them if they want to propose their fix as a patch. | 15:54 |
| tbarron | There's a chance that someone else with a gpfs back end has a different software version on the back end or something | 15:54 |
| tbarron | and the change would break them. | 15:54 |
| tbarron | But unless we know specific gpfs back end customers to ask, I think maybe inviting these folks to submit a pathc | 15:55 |
| tbarron | and merging it would be the right thing to do. | 15:55 |
| tbarron | Thoughts? | 15:55 |
| vhariria | may need more testing to prove setup variances | 15:55 |
| tbarron | vhariria: the issue is that *we* have no way to test | 15:55 |
| tbarron | vhariria: need a gpfs back end | 15:56 |
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| tbarron | vhariria: and there are no maintainers for that back end currently in the manila community | 15:56 |
| vhariria | tbarron: ack | 15:56 |
| tbarron | OK, hearing no objection I'll invite them to submit a patch. | 15:57 |
| tbarron | #topic open discussion | 15:57 |
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| tbarron | ok, thanks everyone! | 15:58 |
| tbarron | See you in #openstack-manila !! | 15:58 |
| tbarron | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 11 15:58:20 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-07-11-15.01.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-07-11-15.01.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-07-11-15.01.log.html | 15:58 |
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