Tuesday, 2019-07-16

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priteau#startmeeting blazar08:59
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 16 08:59:59 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
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priteau#topic Roll call09:00
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tetsuroo/09:00
priteauHi tetsuro09:00
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priteauNo one else today?09:02
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priteauHi bertys09:03
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tetsuroI sent a message to masa in internal slack09:03
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priteauHi bertys09:06
tetsuro...I have got no response from masa09:06
bertysHi priteau, tetsuro09:07
tetsuroHi09:07
priteauLet's start, maybe masahito will join later09:07
priteauAgenda for today:09:07
priteau1. Shanghai attendance09:07
priteau2. Code review priorities09:08
priteau3. AOB09:08
priteau#topic Shanghai attendance09:08
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tetsuroI'll be there from Monday to Friday09:08
priteauI've been contacted to provide information about attendance to the Shanghai PTG09:09
priteauThe PTG will be held Tuesday, November 5th through Friday, November 8th in Shanghai, China.09:09
priteauWe need to tell the foundation whether the Blazar project team will meet.09:10
bertysAsked this morning internally. Will let u know once decision has been made09:10
priteauWe have to provide our response by August 11th, 2019 at 7:00 UTC09:11
priteauSo still almost a month to answer.09:11
bertysokay thanks for the info09:11
priteauThere are also some changes to the organisation of the PTG09:11
priteau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007079.html09:12
priteau- project onboarding is moving to the PTG09:12
priteauWe were encouraged to have a project onboarding session in the past, if we have enough people in Shanghai we should have one09:14
priteauI will wait a bit longer to provide our answer since we're not sure who can attend yet09:16
priteau#topic Code review priorities09:17
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priteauI wanted to test asmita's patches on DevStack but I am not sure which ones should be deployed together now09:18
tetsuroI tested that and it worked well]09:18
tetsurohttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/637140/11 is needed for local request id09:19
tetsuroBoth https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666202/1 and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669079/1 are needed for global (among project wide) request id09:20
priteauAre the global and local request ID patches independent?09:20
tetsuroGlobal depends on local one09:21
tetsuroand note that if you want global req id to show in the log, you need config logging_context_format_string in blazar.conf09:22
tetsurohttps://docs.openstack.org/oslo.log/latest/configuration/index.html#DEFAULT.logging_context_format_string09:22
priteauThanks for the information09:22
priteaubertys: I've updated https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669823/ on which you had a +2, but with minimal changes09:24
bertysThanks priteau for the wording improvements. LGTM09:25
tetsuroThanks for reviewing.09:26
priteautetsuro: Regarding the email discussion we had about Ironic integration: thanks for providing the details about how the flavor is configured. It may be that this enables Ironic integration in instance reservation mode already.09:27
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priteauI don't know yet if I can upgrade this test environment to Stein, but as a backup I am deploying an ironic devstack09:28
priteauI'll let you know if I can do an updated test09:28
tetsuroThanks!09:29
priteauAnything else to discuss for code review?09:30
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priteau#topic AOB09:32
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priteauI have some holiday and business travel coming up. I may have to cancel a few meetings09:33
priteauI won't be able to hold the meeting on August 6.09:33
priteauI will send an email if other meetings need to be cancelled.09:34
tetsurogot it09:35
priteauAny other announcements? Other holidays coming up?09:37
priteauLet's end the meeting early then.09:39
priteauHave a good rest of the week!09:39
priteau#endmeeting09:39
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tetsuroThanks all! Bye.09:39
bertysThanks09:39
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cmurphy#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 16 16:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda16:00
cmurphyo/16:00
knikollao/16:00
vishakhao/16:01
gagehugoo/16:01
kmalloco/16:02
cmurphylet's get started16:04
cmurphy#topic midcycle agenda draft posted16:04
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cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-train-midcycle-topics16:04
cmurphythe virtual midcycle will be happening next week16:04
cmurphyI started working out an agenda for discussion and hacking topics16:05
cmurphyposted in the above etherpad16:05
cmurphyfeedback welcome - any thoughts on it?16:05
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* gagehugo takes a look16:06
cmurphyit will be flexible too so if we decide at the time we need to rework the discussion we can do that16:07
bnemecThe Oslo meeting is during the caching tech review.16:08
bnemecBut maybe we just cancel the meeting next week and have interested people join the midcycle call.16:08
cmurphybnemec: it's easy enough to switch it around16:08
cmurphyalthough tuesday was iffy for kmalloc16:09
kmalloci'll most likely be around16:10
bnemecYeah, although it would be a bit weird to not have the hackathon for caching follow the tech review, which limits the flexibility there somewhat.16:10
kmallocmostly the caching tech review is to get more people on board with how caching works, concerns, and oslo.cache itself16:10
kmallocwe have a very small number of folks who understand it in depth16:10
bnemecI also have a conflict on Tuesday, although I may be able to skip that meeting.16:10
cmurphyso would it16:12
cmurphyer16:12
cmurphyso would it work to swap the hackathon days or still a conflict?16:12
cmurphyoh you said conflict same time both days16:13
bnemecIt may still be an issue for me.16:13
bnemecMonday is actually more flexible because I can cancel that meeting if I have to.16:13
knikollajust realize i have a conflict on tuesday too. but it's only for 1 hour out of the 3 of the meeting.16:13
cmurphybnemec: how about we move up the caching topics by an hour on monday16:14
cmurphythen you can be there for the review and do the hackathon only if you feel like canceling the other meeting16:15
bnemecSure, works for me.16:15
kmalloc++16:16
cmurphycool16:16
cmurphydone16:16
cmurphyknikolla: what time is your conflict on tuesday?16:16
bnemecAlthough that means I have to actually be awake right away on Monday. ;-)16:16
cmurphybnemec: kmalloc and i cry for you16:17
knikollaright in the middle of the midcycle. 11am EST to 12.00 EST16:17
bnemeccmurphy: I'm sure. :-P16:17
knikollaand i might miss the first few minutes on monday if my dental appointment goes long.16:18
cmurphyknikolla: okay so you can make it to the retrospective at least16:18
knikollasure16:18
cmurphyknikolla: gagehugo can you add your names to the attendees list too16:18
gagehugowill do16:19
gagehugoI shouldn't have any conflicts afaik16:20
cmurphyyay16:20
cmurphyany other questions concerns thoughts about the midcycle?16:20
cmurphy#topic PTG planning16:22
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cmurphyplanning all the events i guess16:22
cmurphyi sent a note to the ml, the foundation wants to know if we want space at the shanghai ptg16:22
cmurphyi almost just replied and said yes since we always use it, but i know this one is a little different16:23
cmurphyi'm looking for a very rough count of people who are thinking they probably intend to go to shanghai in november16:23
cmurphyi know nobody knows for sure at this point16:24
cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-shanghai-ptg shanghai ptg planning16:24
cmurphyplease add your names there if you think you're planning to be there16:25
cmurphyanyone besides kmalloc already know for sure that they *won't* be there?16:26
gagehugoI won't be there16:26
knikollai'm very unlikely to go, given the VISA pains I have to go through to leave the US and get back.16:27
cmurphy:(16:27
knikollai basically need to fly to albania from the us, to get a us visa, come back to the us, get a chinese visa, then travel to china.16:28
kmallocknikolla: that sounds... awful16:29
knikollakmalloc: ikr, having to get out of the us to be able to come back... is mind boggling16:29
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cmurphythat seems extremely inconvenient16:31
cmurphyi know sessions will be selected by the end of the month so presentation schedule will probably be out early august, so please try to let me know by around then whether you think you'll make it16:32
cmurphyif most of us can't make it then we should probably do a virtual ptg just before the event16:33
vishakhacmurphy: sure16:33
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gagehugothat might be a good idea16:34
cmurphy#topic Open reviews and ongoing work16:35
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cmurphythere are a few reviews to touch base on16:36
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/659434 Remove [signing] config16:36
vishakhaI was waiting for others opinion over it16:36
cmurphywe talked about this one last week, i think we're converging on changing the error code to a 41016:36
cmurphyanyone have other thoughts on it?16:37
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cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/655166 Allows to use application credentials through group membership16:39
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cmurphythis one is interesting, we've been back and forth on it for a while16:40
cmurphyi restored the original patchset from jose and explained in a comment why i think it's actually the right way to go16:40
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cmurphyinterested in hearing from knikolla about it and whether kmalloc had other thoughts since we talked about it last week16:40
knikollaso basically app creds didn't check if the user had permissions from the group and failed?16:41
cmurphyright, when the app cred gets created it looks at the effective role assignments but the token was only looking at regular role assignments16:42
cmurphyso the app cred could be created but not used16:42
knikollawill it distinguish between groups from mapping and groups concretely assigned to?16:43
cmurphyyes because only concrete groups can be looked up from the identity driver16:44
cmurphymapped groups go through a completely different code path in a completely different subsystem16:44
knikollai'm ok with this and it's actually a critical fix16:44
cmurphywe still need the expiring group membership to make this work for federated users but that's really a separate issue16:45
knikollayup, but the latter depends on this16:46
cmurphyyep16:46
knikolla++ will review16:46
cmurphyawesome16:46
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/633369 Add validation of app cred access rules16:46
cmurphythis one should be more readable now that kmalloc helped me with the regex implementation16:47
cmurphyi'd like to get that in and do a ksm release asap16:47
cmurphythe access rules work in keystone depends on that ksm patch16:48
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/669790 update documentation for X.509 tokenless auth16:50
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cmurphygyee has been doing amazing work fixing that document16:50
cmurphydefinitely worth reviewing just to learn more about it :)16:51
knikollanice!16:53
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/669959 discourage external auth16:54
cmurphyrelated change from gyee, this took me by surprise a little so i think it's worth discussing16:54
cmurphyexternal auth is one of the default allowed auth methods16:55
gyeeo/16:55
cmurphyhi gyee16:55
gyeeexternal auth is kinda dangerous in a multi domain env16:55
cmurphyis multidomain the only case when it's a bad idea?16:57
gyeeand v3 is all about multi-domain so we should discourage using external auth unless deployer have a flat, single-domain IDP16:57
gyeeand it cannot be used with multiple auth modules within apache either16:58
cmurphywe should probably remove it from the default list of auth methods too then16:58
gyeei.e. Kerberos and mod_ssl at the same time16:58
cmurphy1 minute remaining16:59
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666861/ stable/stein doc bug fix16:59
cmurphyone for the stable cores16:59
cmurphyany other reviews to highlight?16:59
cmurphyalright thanks everyone17:00
cmurphy#endmeeting17:00
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