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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 30 08:59:54 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 08:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 08:59 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
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| bertys | o/ | 09:02 |
| priteau | Hi bertys | 09:02 |
| bertys | Hi | 09:02 |
| priteau | Let's wait a few minutes in case tetsuro and masahito join | 09:04 |
| bertys | Sure | 09:04 |
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| priteau | Well, let's start | 09:09 |
| bertys | okay | 09:10 |
| priteau | #topic Shanghai Summit & PTG attendance | 09:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai Summit & PTG attendance (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:10 | |
| priteau | bertys: Do you have news about your own travel request? | 09:10 |
| bertys | Good news, I will be in Shanghai from Monday to Friday | 09:11 |
| bertys | What about you priteau? | 09:12 |
| priteau | Not sure yet as we haven't received notifications about accepted talks. | 09:12 |
| priteau | But with at least tetsuro and you over there, and maybe masahito and I, I think I can request PTG space for the project? | 09:13 |
| priteau | We have to give an answer before August 11 and with next week's meeting being cancelled, we really need to decide now. | 09:14 |
| bertys | Do you know when you will receive notifcations about accepted talks? We can also check offline with tetsuro and Masahito in the next few days | 09:16 |
| bertys | Same deadline for project update/onboarding or do we have more time to decide? | 09:19 |
| priteau | I can't find the information about talk acceptance. Voting was open until Monday last week, so I hope it won't be too long. | 09:19 |
| priteau | Usually the call for project update is closer to the actual summit. | 09:21 |
| priteau | However, project onboarding is different now: it is now part of the PTG | 09:21 |
| priteau | So if we want to have a project onboarding session, we need to request PTG space. | 09:21 |
| priteau | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007079.html | 09:22 |
| priteau | We can synchronise by email next week if that's preferable. | 09:22 |
| bertys | I see, you have my +1 to request PTG space / have a project onboarding session but let's synch with our Japanese colleagues | 09:23 |
| priteau | Sounds good. | 09:24 |
| priteau | Worst case we could have just a project onboarding session, if you are OK to manage it together with Tetsuro, and have a virtual PTG meeting separately. | 09:24 |
| priteau | #action Sync about PTG attendance by email next week | 09:25 |
| priteau | #topic Code review priorities | 09:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review priorities (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:25 | |
| priteau | Jake (Jacob Colleran) from Chameleon has been getting more involved upstream, so we have some new interesting patches to review | 09:27 |
| priteau | There is the implementation of network segment reservation (which I implemented downstream last year), and he's working on a spec for it | 09:27 |
| priteau | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668749/ | 09:27 |
| priteau | His implementation of floating IP reservation update: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672763/ | 09:28 |
| priteau | Performance improvements for resource allocation API: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672994/ | 09:28 |
| priteau | And resource allocation API support in client: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673106/ | 09:28 |
| priteau | I will try to review this week as I will be out all of next week | 09:29 |
| priteau | It's good that Chameleon folks are active upstream, we need to keep them engaged. | 09:30 |
| priteau | Do you have any comment about these patches? | 09:31 |
| bertys | Right, thanks. Will have some time in August to review those patches and be more visible upstream. | 09:31 |
| priteau | Great news :-) | 09:33 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:36 | |
| priteau | #info Reminder that next week's meeting (06/08) is cancelled | 09:37 |
| priteau | I will be out of the office all week and generally less responsive than usual | 09:37 |
| bertys | I will be out of office on August 15-16 | 09:38 |
| priteau | Is August 15 a holiday in Germany too? | 09:39 |
| bertys | It depends where you live, Munich yes | 09:41 |
| priteau | Anything else to discuss? | 09:41 |
| bertys | No, we can finish early today | 09:42 |
| priteau | Thanks for joining bertys! Have a good week. | 09:43 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 09:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 30 09:43:09 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-07-30-08.59.html | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-07-30-08.59.txt | 09:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-07-30-08.59.log.html | 09:43 |
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| cmurphy | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 30 16:00:13 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | anyone here for the keystone meeting? | 16:00 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
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| cmurphy | seems like it will be a short meeting today | 16:03 |
| gyee | I am trying to attend to meetings at the same time. Let's see how it goes. :-) | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | gyee: just do what i did and skip the other meeting ;) | 16:04 |
| gyee | yeah :-) | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | #topic announcements | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:05 | |
| cmurphy | if people are around, the topic for the office hours today will be a bug triage | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | i started a list in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-office-hours-topics | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | also, reminder that feature proposal freeze is August 16, so a little under 3 weeks from now | 16:07 |
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| * vishakha notes down the feature proposal freeze date | 16:08 | |
| cmurphy | feature proposal freeze means code is ready to review, no PoCs or WiP | 16:08 |
| vishakha | ok :) | 16:09 |
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| cmurphy | but I think that will only apply to code that implements specs, we'll apply just the general feature freeze to things like system scope/default roles updates and smaller features | 16:10 |
| vishakha | that makes sense | 16:11 |
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| cmurphy | #topic review requests | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review requests (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:12 | |
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| cmurphy | anyone have any special requests for reviews? | 16:12 |
| cmurphy | vishakha i'll take another look at your sdk change today | 16:12 |
| vishakha | I have https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669331/ app creds | 16:12 |
| gagehugo | I currently do not atm, need to update that ksm one I have | 16:12 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673476/ small one | 16:12 |
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| kmalloc | o/ | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | sorry, a little late | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | here now | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | hi kmalloc | 16:14 |
| vishakha | cmurphy: thanks | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | i need some more reviews on https://review.opendev.org/637305 | 16:15 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:16 |
| cmurphy | hi knikolla | 16:16 |
| cmurphy | also would be good to get the rest of https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/whitelist-extension-for-app-creds+NOT+label:workflow%253D-1 in sooner rather than later so that we can also do client work this cycle | 16:16 |
| knikolla | hi all, sorry for being late, had to run an errand. | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | no worries | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | i'm also hoping more of the team can chime in on https://review.opendev.org/669959 discouraging external auth with x.509 | 16:18 |
| gyee | I got Kerberos working, but it's kinda weird the way it is setup | 16:19 |
| gyee | don't know if anyone is using it in a production environment, usability is not the best IMO | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | could we just use basic auth as the example? | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: 637305 +2/+A | 16:20 |
| gyee | yeah, basic auth requires something else in conjunction i.e. ldap | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | or just an htdigest file | 16:20 |
| gyee | or some other pam module | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | imo, you need something that translates krb5 -> saml. | 16:21 |
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| kmalloc | or similar, direct krb5 to keystone is icky/always going to be...weird. | 16:21 |
| gyee | kmalloc, that's not how we advertise it | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | gyee: doesn't matter HOW we advertise it, it should be the direction we take | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | it's how most enterprise orgs manage SPs that aren't kerberized | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | keystone should be no different on that front | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | krb has never been well tested or maintained in keystone | 16:22 |
| gyee | yeah, but with krb, we only have the principal to work with, no other attributes | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | which is why you should be using a service that does the translation | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | or front the idp with something directly that does saml | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | keystone should drop/not care about krb support directly | 16:23 |
| gyee | yeah make sense | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | when we droped token bind (fernet), krb was mostly/is mostly dead (advanced features) | 16:23 |
| gyee | afaik, there's no horizon support either | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | exactly | 16:24 |
| gyee | at least I can't find any doc on it | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | just not worth putting energy in when it can be skinned another way, espe. with how difficult it is to do principal only -> keystone things. | 16:24 |
| gyee | yeah, I like the federation route with krb | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | :) | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | trying to save you some headaches and also making keystone easier to maintain long-term | 16:25 |
| gyee | no argument here :-) | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | so consensus is not to use krb as the external auth example? | 16:27 |
| cmurphy | what should be used instead, or should we start deprecating external auth altogether? | 16:27 |
| gyee | ++ on deprecating external auth | 16:27 |
| gyee | put it on the next user survey | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | i'd deprecate external auth | 16:27 |
| gyee | I am curious how many are using it in production | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | i think we just missed the bus for the next user survey | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | but i'm curious too | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | i can query the ml | 16:28 |
| gyee | sounds good | 16:29 |
| cmurphy | #action cmurphy ask for ops feedback on deprecating external auth on the mailing list | 16:30 |
| cmurphy | any other reviews to highlight? | 16:30 |
| cmurphy | #topic open discussion | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:32 | |
| cmurphy | any other business? | 16:32 |
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| cmurphy | i think we'll move straight into office hours after this because otherwise we lose people | 16:35 |
| cmurphy | thanks everybody | 16:36 |
| cmurphy | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 30 16:36:42 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-30-16.00.html | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-30-16.00.txt | 16:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-07-30-16.00.log.html | 16:36 |
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