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| cmurphy | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 6 16:00:22 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:00 |
| bnemec | o/ | 16:03 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | hi everyone | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | #topic Spec implementation/roadmap check-in | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Spec implementation/roadmap check-in (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:04 | |
| cmurphy | we're getting close to feature proposal freeze so i wanted to do a check-in about how our planned work is progressing | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/train/capabilities-app-creds.html app cred access rules | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | status of this is that server side work just needs reviews, i haven't started client side work but will do that this week | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | questions/concerns about that one? | 16:06 |
| kmalloc | nah no concerns | 16:06 |
| kmalloc | it looks fine and needs more eyes, but is on point | 16:07 |
| cmurphy | cool | 16:07 |
| vishakha | cmurphy: I too can give hands or client side, if needed | 16:07 |
| vishakha | s/or/for | 16:07 |
| cmurphy | thanks vishakha, maybe we can coordinate that | 16:07 |
| cmurphy | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/train/expiring-group-memberships.html expiring group membership | 16:07 |
| vishakha | cmurphy sure | 16:08 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: anything noteworthy about that one? ^ | 16:08 |
| knikolla | i'm on a good pace with the implementation | 16:08 |
| knikolla | haven't pushed anything yet though | 16:08 |
| cmurphy | awesome | 16:08 |
| kmalloc | nice. | 16:08 |
| cmurphy | anyone have questions/concerns about that? | 16:08 |
| cmurphy | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/train/immutable-resources.html immutable resources | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | I had started a WIP of this but was waiting on resource options for all to build on top of | 16:10 |
| cmurphy | i'll continue working on the keystone-manage part while we get the resource options part squared away | 16:10 |
| cmurphy | which brings us to | 16:10 |
| cmurphy | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/train/resource-options-for-all.html resource options for all | 16:10 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: how's that going? | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | slow | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | but it should speed up | 16:11 |
| kmalloc | mostly it's been slow because the code shuffle has been real | 16:11 |
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| kmalloc | mostly it's moving the user options to common | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | and migrations | 16:12 |
| kmalloc | the plan is to centralize the options themselves, and then allow any resource to "opt in" [code wise] to having them. | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | each resource opted into resource options will also be explicitly allowed to use any code definition (e.g. "immutable") of an option | 16:13 |
| kmalloc | this means we have 1 definition of the option and it may be shared across resource types | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | and lean on the validation in the same way | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | and we will have 1 option table with heavy indexing to make the option lookups as efficient as possible when loading the resource | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | i expect to have code up in the not-too-far out. | 16:15 |
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| * kmalloc kicks endless doctor appointments interrupting workflow (but those are now set on the calendar so i cna work around them)( | 16:15 | |
| cmurphy | sounds good | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | anyone have questions on that? | 16:16 |
| cmurphy | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/train/support-federated-attr.html federated attributes | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: looked like you started pushing patches up for that one ^ | 16:17 |
| knikolla | yup, rebasing and updating the release notes | 16:17 |
| knikolla | should be pretty straightforward | 16:17 |
| knikolla | i know adam had some concerns about the creating users with fed attributes part | 16:18 |
| knikolla | and if it conflicts with predictable ids | 16:18 |
| knikolla | so i'll check on that to make sure all is good | 16:18 |
| cmurphy | okay | 16:19 |
| gyee | where do we stash the fed attributes? in extras? | 16:19 |
| * gyee hides from kmalloc | 16:20 | |
| cmurphy | >.< | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | whatever, if that is the place you're going to stash em, just do it. | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | and don't tell me | 16:20 |
| knikolla | haha | 16:20 |
| knikolla | nothing as obscene. i think it mostly uses the federateduser table | 16:21 |
| knikolla | and the references from there | 16:21 |
| knikolla | no new models jumped out at me, except new driver methods | 16:21 |
| cmurphy | sounds like it will be straightforward | 16:24 |
| cmurphy | any questions about that one? | 16:24 |
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| cmurphy | the last priority effort i wanted to mention was finishing the system-scope/default-roles conversion | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | last cycle we rammed a bunch of these in after feature freeze and it was kind of a mess | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | this cycle i would really like if *all* of them were done before feature freeze | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | i would rather not keep piling on deprecation warnings for many cycles | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | and lance certainly can't get it done all by himself so i encourage anyone with extra time to pick some of these up | 16:27 |
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| cmurphy | anything else anyone wants to cover wrt the roadmap and specs? | 16:29 |
| knikolla | looks like train will arrive on time | 16:30 |
| knikolla | which is uncommon in the US, lol. | 16:30 |
| cmurphy | >.> | 16:31 |
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| vishakha | lol | 16:31 |
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| gagehugo | lol | 16:32 |
| cmurphy | #topic review requests | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review requests (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:33 | |
| cmurphy | any requests? | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | i need another review on https://review.opendev.org/674122 to fix a bug i helped write | 16:35 |
| knikolla | you got it. | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | tyvm | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: could you also slide https://review.opendev.org/655166 up your priority list | 16:38 |
| cmurphy | i know you have infinite time >.> | 16:38 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: if you could give that a onceover too ^ | 16:39 |
| knikolla | will do | 16:39 |
| knikolla | you, i have a picture which ages instead of me | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | ++ | 16:39 |
| kmalloc | will do | 16:39 |
| knikolla | yup* | 16:39 |
| cmurphy | lol | 16:39 |
| cmurphy | any other reviews that are ready to call out? | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | #topic open floor | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:42 | |
| cmurphy | as mentioned in the newsletter i didn't plan a topic for office hours so no office hours after this | 16:42 |
| cmurphy | anything else to discuss or should we call it early? | 16:42 |
| gyee | when are we deprecating those openidc auth plugins in keystoneauth1? same with v3kerberos | 16:42 |
| gyee | if anybody think they are still useful, I would like to know how are they being used. | 16:43 |
| cmurphy | i need to refresh myself on them but i think they may all still be useful for different types of oauth flows | 16:43 |
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| cmurphy | the oauth2/oidc specs mention all of them | 16:44 |
| knikolla | i use them | 16:44 |
| knikolla | the oidc ones | 16:45 |
| gyee | knikolla, as part of openstack CLI? | 16:45 |
| knikolla | https://osticket.massopen.cloud/kb/faq.php?id=16 | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | osc is not the only consumer of ksa either | 16:46 |
| knikolla | yup, either through osc, the clients or keystoneauth session directly | 16:46 |
| knikolla | granted, it would only take a couple of lines to rewrite what they do in plain requests, but since oidc isn't gonna change anytime soon they don't need maintenance. | 16:47 |
| kmalloc | gyee: krb should be fine to go. but keep in mind deprecation in keystoneauth is fine we can never remove them | 16:47 |
| knikolla | and they're already there. | 16:47 |
| kmalloc | gyee: ksa has a strict "we will not break you" contract, we can roll keystoneauth2 if we want to drop support wholesale for any api/thing | 16:47 |
| gyee | k | 16:48 |
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| cmurphy | anything else? | 16:50 |
| cmurphy | alright thanks everyone | 16:52 |
| cmurphy | #endmeeting | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 6 16:52:11 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-08-06-16.00.html | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-08-06-16.00.txt | 16:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-08-06-16.00.log.html | 16:52 |
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