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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 10 09:00:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
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| masahito_ | o/ | 09:00 |
| priteau | Hi masahito_ | 09:00 |
| priteau | Neither Tetsuro nor Bertrand are online | 09:03 |
| priteau | I don't see Asmita either | 09:04 |
| priteau | Agenda for today: | 09:04 |
| priteau | 1. Shanghai Summit: Forum Submissions | 09:04 |
| priteau | 2. Removal of API v2 | 09:04 |
| priteau | 3. Train release schedule | 09:04 |
| priteau | 4. Code review priorities | 09:04 |
| priteau | 5. AOB | 09:04 |
| priteau | #topic Shanghai Summit: Forum Submissions | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai Summit: Forum Submissions (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:04 | |
| priteau | The call for Forum topics is open, until Sep 20. | 09:05 |
| priteau | Would you like to submit a topic? | 09:05 |
| masahito_ | I don't have any idea for Forum right now. | 09:06 |
| priteau | We already have plenty of things on the backlog that we can prototype / implement (preemptibles, quota integration, etc.) | 09:07 |
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| priteau | I'll ask again next week, in case Tetsuro has ideas | 09:09 |
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| priteau | #topic Removal of API v2 | 09:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Removal of API v2 (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:10 | |
| priteau | We've deprecated the v2 API several releases ago. One of the patches from Asmita reminded me that the code is still there and I was thinking of deleting it | 09:11 |
| priteau | I would probably do it earlier in the U cycle | 09:11 |
| priteau | Any thoughts? | 09:11 |
| masahito_ | +1. | 09:12 |
| priteau | I'll propose a patch, but let's focus on Train first | 09:13 |
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| priteau | #topic Train release schedule | 09:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Train release schedule (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:14 | |
| priteau | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html | 09:14 |
| priteau | This week is Train-3 milestone, Feature freeze, Final release for client libraries | 09:15 |
| priteau | I'd like to merge all the patches from Asmita | 09:16 |
| priteau | I've also been working on a new patch for floating IP reservation update, based on Jacob's | 09:17 |
| priteau | There are updates that are tricky to handle with the current code, for example when `required_floatingips` are added | 09:17 |
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| priteau | Maybe we'll just need to deny updates of some fields | 09:18 |
| priteau | Hi tetsuro | 09:18 |
| priteau | masahito_: tetsuro: I would appreciate a review of this client patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680989/ | 09:20 |
| tetsuro | Sorry for being late. | 09:20 |
| priteau | tetsuro: We've mentioned Forum topics but didn't have any idea. Is there something you want to propose to discuss in Shanghai? | 09:22 |
| tetsuro | Not really. | 09:22 |
| priteau | OK, we won't submit any topics. | 09:23 |
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| priteau | For the Train release, I was just saying that I've been working on a new patch for floating IP reservation update, based on Jacob's | 09:24 |
| priteau | It still has some limitations but fixes several bugs | 09:25 |
| priteau | In the process I discovered issues with the client for supporting required_floatingips | 09:26 |
| priteau | Patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680989/ | 09:26 |
| priteau | I have also another pending patch to handle lease-update in the same way | 09:27 |
| priteau | This week is our last chance for a blazarclient release | 09:27 |
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| tetsuro | Ack, will review it shortly | 09:28 |
| priteau | Thanks | 09:29 |
| priteau | I am afraid we won't have time to review network reservation fully as the spec hasn't been approved yet. | 09:29 |
| priteau | I don't really want to include this feature without significant testing | 09:30 |
| priteau | Better to make sure floating IP reservation is well supported | 09:31 |
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| priteau | tetsuro: I discussed with Jacob your new patches for optimizing DB queries. He wasn't sure they would help much in their environment because apparently it was fetching allocations which took time. | 09:34 |
| priteau | Maybe we could write a script to populate a DevStack DB with lots of allocations, to make this problem reproducible. | 09:35 |
| tetsuro | I submitted two patch for that optimization, and was none of them helpful? | 09:36 |
| priteau | He's just back from holiday, I asked if he could test them | 09:36 |
| tetsuro | okay. | 09:37 |
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| tetsuro | But yes, having a lot of allocations in devstack sounds a good idea. | 09:37 |
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| priteau | I'll continue to do more reviews this week | 09:39 |
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| tetsuro | What I wonder is even with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679935/ it doesn't help, or he just tried https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678755/ and found it did not help | 09:39 |
| priteau | Let's see if he can test both this week | 09:40 |
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| tetsuro | I'll have a raw SQL scripts for this that can help you debug | 09:41 |
| priteau | Did you extract the queries generated by SQLAlchemy? | 09:42 |
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| tetsuro | I will. It's easy. | 09:43 |
| priteau | Thanks, that would be really useful. It's purely read-only queries, so we can run them safely at the MySQL prompt. | 09:44 |
| tetsuro | right | 09:44 |
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| priteau | Anything else to discuss about Train? | 09:47 |
| priteau | #topic Code review priorities | 09:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review priorities (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:48 | |
| priteau | We've covered this a lot already. Priorities are: | 09:48 |
| priteau | 1) client patches since this week is the last chance for the release | 09:49 |
| priteau | 2) blazar service patches: mostly Asmita's patches and DB optimization patches | 09:49 |
| priteau | Anything else? | 09:50 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:52 | |
| priteau | Anything else to share? | 09:52 |
| masahito_ | Is the room for Blazar PTG fixed? | 09:53 |
| priteau | We haven't heard back about rooms at the PTG. I believe most groups will be in a shared space anyway. | 09:53 |
| masahito_ | I'm trying to book a hotel and flight for the PTG. So if possible, I want to know the day and time. | 09:54 |
| masahito_ | okay. Thanks. | 09:54 |
| priteau | There will be project update during the summit and project onboarding during the PTG | 09:55 |
| priteau | Project update slots are not scheduled yet | 09:56 |
| priteau | I can send email to ask when they will be communicated? | 09:56 |
| priteau | masahito_: ^ | 09:59 |
| masahito_ | sorry. If possible, please send me once they announce. | 10:00 |
| priteau | OK | 10:00 |
| priteau | We're out of time, thanks for joining! | 10:01 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:01 | |
| masahito_ | thank. | 10:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 10 10:01:05 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-09-10-09.00.html | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-09-10-09.00.txt | 10:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-09-10-09.00.log.html | 10:01 |
| tetsuro | Thanks! | 10:02 |
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| cmurphy | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 10 16:00:10 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| * kmalloc pours coffee | 16:00 | |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda | 16:00 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:01 |
| bnemec | o/ | 16:01 |
| ayoung | o/ | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | #topic announcements | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:05 | |
| cmurphy | okay first announcement: | 16:05 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | thanks ayoung for joining - ayoung has let me know that he's stepping back from the keystone core team | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | :( | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | i want to sincerely thank ayoung for all the years he has put into this project, keystone would not be what it is today without him | 16:06 |
| ayoung | Thanks. | 16:06 |
| * lbragstad remembers ayoung helping him get onboarded to keystone back in 2013 | 16:06 | |
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| lbragstad | thanks for all your contributions ayoung | 16:06 |
| knikolla | I’ll buy you a beer Adam when I’m back in Boston. | 16:06 |
| ayoung | This is an acknowledgement that I no longer have my finger on the pulse of the project. I'll be around, and if anytthing changes, I can be back up to speed quickly | 16:07 |
| cmurphy | i'm sure we'll still pester you with questions | 16:08 |
| ayoung | :) | 16:08 |
| ayoung | I'm done. | 16:10 |
| gyee | ayoung, thanks for everything! I am sure not just Keystone, everyone in the OpenStack community have one of those "I remember ayoung helped me out" stories. | 16:11 |
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| gyee | so what are we going to do with those #FIXME(ayound) thingies in the code? :-) | 16:12 |
| cmurphy | haha | 16:13 |
| ayoung | Fix them | 16:13 |
| cmurphy | second announcement, now that the election is over i wanted to mention that at the moment i am not planning on running for a third term as ptl, unless there is really no other option, so if anyone has an inkling that they might want to step up and fill the role please let me know and i'll be happy to answer questions | 16:13 |
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| ayoung | [ayoung@ayoungP40 keystone]$ grep -rni ayoung keystone | 16:14 |
| ayoung | keystone/assignment/core.py:1330: # TODO(ayoung): Add notification | 16:14 |
| ayoung | keystone/auth/core.py:302: # TODO(ayoung): when trusts support domains, fill in domain data | 16:14 |
| ayoung | keystone/identity/backends/ldap/core.py:435: # NOTE(ayoung): LDAP_SCOPE is used here instead of hard- | 16:14 |
| ayoung | keystone/tests/unit/test_v3_protection.py:226: # TODO(henry-nash, ayoung): It would be good to expand this | 16:14 |
| ayoung | keystone/tests/unit/test_v3_auth.py:3811: # NOTE(ayoung): not deleting token3, as it should be deleted | 16:14 |
| ayoung | Heh | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | thanks for the heads up cmurphy | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | definitely not planning on going anywhere though | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | so don't worry about that | 16:14 |
| kmalloc | i'm not worried about another great PTL rising up to the challenge. we have great people in the community | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: soo... about LDAP integration in keystone </wink wink> :P | 16:15 |
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| ayoung | remove it | 16:17 |
| gyee | LOL | 16:17 |
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| cmurphy | let's move on, agenda is not small today | 16:18 |
| cmurphy | #topic reviews | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:18 | |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: you mentioned the ksa one on the agenda | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | yep - i'm just curious about following up this discussion | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | since there was discussion on it a while ago | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | i address some of the concerns, but wanted to give folks a chances to give it another look | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | or raise any issues they have with it | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | the retry bits? | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:20 |
| kmalloc | i don't like it. i think the alternative almost requires a ksa2 | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | the alternative? | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | adding in explicit retry settings for all auth-path | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | which impacts get_endpoint, get_auth, etc | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | or explicit retry options for each auth path method. | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | which i like less than global retry setting | 16:21 |
| kmalloc | s/global/session/ | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | oh - i think the current approach reuses the session object | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | yeah it does | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | which makes it the least obnoxious option for end users to consume | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | short of breaking the contract and making things cleaner in how KeystoneAuth processes auth path. which would require ksa2 | 16:22 |
| kmalloc | so... tl;dr, i don't like it but i don't have a good alternative if we need this retry logic in the session | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | auth is "special" (unfortunately) and we'll probably have subsequent questions in the future on retry's on auth | 16:23 |
| kmalloc | so... we can land it as is | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | sounds good - we can continue to discuss offline, too | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | i wanted to raise awareness | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | that's it from me cmurphy | 16:24 |
| cmurphy | thanks lbragstad | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | np | 16:24 |
| cmurphy | i want to specifically beg for reviews on the remainder of the stack starting at https://review.opendev.org/668238 | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: just +2'd that one | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | thanks kmalloc | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | and i think i have +2 on the rest of the stack | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | i have a talk on it and would be super sad if it didn't make it in | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | i'm just reading your response to my question now | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | so - access rules are reusable across users today, yeah? | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: no, access rules are owned by a user | 16:26 |
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| cmurphy | a user can reuse them in different app creds though | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | "An access rule record isn't specific to a particular app cred, they are only specific to a user, so they won't be duplicated except when different users create the same ones." | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | so - if we both create app creds and we both specify the same access rule | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | there are going to be two access rules persisted in the backend even though they're the same? | 16:27 |
| cmurphy | yes because we have a user_id in the model | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | ok - got it | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | in the future we could refactor and migrate to share app creds, it sounds like | 16:27 |
| cmurphy | yes i think so | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | awesome - sorry, i'm not trying to pre-optimize | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | :) | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | just something that cross my mind when i was looking at the object model | 16:28 |
| cmurphy | besides that i made a list of things we're aiming to land this week | 16:29 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-train-feature-freeze-todo feature freeze reviews | 16:29 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: i didn't include the expiring group work, it didn't look ready and isn't passing ci | 16:30 |
| cmurphy | so i think we need to let it slip unless i've missed something? | 16:30 |
| knikolla | Yeah, I’m sorry. Had to take a step back and focus on mental health. | 16:31 |
| cmurphy | i support that | 16:31 |
| knikolla | I’ll be on vacation through the 29th | 16:32 |
| cmurphy | nice, enjoy and thanks for the headsup | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:32 |
| vishakha | knikolla enjoy | 16:33 |
| knikolla | Thank you | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | on the topic of vacation | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | FYI I'll be starting vacation around sept. 30... and then uhm. i'll be dealing with new kid | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | so. yeah. | 16:33 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: just come back with baby pictures | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | hehe | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | on the topic of reviews, we bumped the timeouts for most of the tox jobs so that we could try to get more throughput (missed one https://review.opendev.org/681161 it's going through now) but i suggest that once all the policy changes are merged that we merge https://review.opendev.org/680788 which is a slightly more robust hack to workaround the issue | 16:37 |
| lbragstad | i like that idea | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | and any help reviewing everything in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-train-feature-freeze-todo is much appreciated | 16:38 |
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| cmurphy | anything else on the reviews topic? | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | i appreciate folks picking up the slack on the policy/system-scope/default roles work | 16:39 |
| lbragstad | i walked through most of the outstanding review last night and they look great | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | you laid solid groundwork to follow | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | thanks for all the reviews | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | it's the least i could do | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | #topic forum planning | 16:41 |
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| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PVG-keystone-forum | 16:41 |
| cmurphy | i split out the forum etherpad | 16:41 |
| cmurphy | I know most people aren't planning on being there | 16:42 |
| lbragstad | is the plan to cover things there and post recaps? | 16:42 |
| lbragstad | or are you planning on attempting to host a virtual presence of some kind? | 16:42 |
| cmurphy | i will certainly be taking notes and posting recaps | 16:42 |
| cmurphy | i definitely do not want to try to manage virtual attendance | 16:43 |
| cmurphy | in china | 16:43 |
| * lbragstad nods | 16:43 | |
| lbragstad | timezones are going to make that really tough anyway | 16:43 |
| lbragstad | (let along trying to find a VC solution) | 16:44 |
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| lbragstad | alone* | 16:44 |
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| cmurphy | there are only two topics proposed, personally i don't need to propose other topics - i think we're moreorless set wrt app creds and i think federation topics can be covered in the virtual ptg if we need to | 16:44 |
| cmurphy | but i'm open to moderating more sessions if people think there are other things worth proposing | 16:45 |
| vishakha | I would also add alembic migrations for PTG | 16:45 |
| cmurphy | vishakha: that was my next topic, go ahead and add it to the ptg etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-shanghai-ptg | 16:46 |
| vishakha | :) | 16:46 |
| cmurphy | bnemec: how do you feel about proposing/moderating the oslo.limit forum session? | 16:46 |
| bnemec | Sure, I can do that. | 16:47 |
| * lbragstad nods vigorously | 16:47 | |
| bnemec | I'm assuming that means lbragstad won't be there. :-/ | 16:47 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: did you figure out whether you would make it? | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | tbd | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | i'll know by eow | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | mmk | 16:48 |
| lbragstad | er - thursday actually | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | cool | 16:48 |
| cmurphy | i'll plan on proposing a session on policy | 16:49 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: you can co-moderate one or both if you end up making it :) | 16:49 |
| bnemec | +1 | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | sweet - if that means take notes, i'm all in | 16:49 |
| lbragstad | ;) | 16:49 |
| cmurphy | lol | 16:49 |
| bnemec | If it means I _don't_ have to take notes, +1000. :-) | 16:50 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 16:50 |
| lbragstad | moderating while attempting to take notes is a pain | 16:50 |
| cmurphy | last topic, few minutes left | 16:52 |
| cmurphy | #topic ptg planning | 16:52 |
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| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-shanghai-ptg | 16:52 |
| cmurphy | we discussed doing a pre- and post- virtual ptg | 16:52 |
| cmurphy | i wrote up a straw man schedule but not really sure how many hours/days to take | 16:52 |
| cmurphy | depends on how many topics there are to discuss | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | so - the virtual ptg is going to be similar to the one we did for Train, right? | 16:53 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: you mean the midcycle? | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | yeah - midcycle | 16:53 |
| cmurphy | yeah that's pretty much what i had in mind | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | cool | 16:53 |
| cmurphy | any other ideas for how to organize it? | 16:53 |
| cmurphy | any comments on the straw man schedule or any other topic ideas? | 16:55 |
| * lbragstad wonders what spectroscope is | 16:56 | |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: the proxy idp | 16:56 |
| lbragstad | oooooo | 16:56 |
| lbragstad | i didn't realize it had a name | 16:56 |
| cmurphy | if we keep it a short-ish session (2-3 hours) then i would probably suggest we hold it over the normal meeting time, one week before and one week after the summit | 16:57 |
| cmurphy | if we decide we need more time i'll start a scheduling poll | 16:58 |
| cmurphy | #topic open discussion | 16:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:58 | |
| cmurphy | anything else to bring up in the next two minutes? | 16:59 |
| cmurphy | okay thanks everyone | 17:00 |
| cmurphy | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 10 17:00:18 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-09-10-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-09-10-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-09-10-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| vishakha | bye everyone | 17:00 |
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