Thursday, 2019-09-19

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tbarron#startmeeting manila15:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 19 15:02:43 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:02
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carlosshi :)15:02
gouthamro/15:02
vkmc\o15:03
jgrossohello :)15:03
tbarron#topic Agenda15:03
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dviroelo/15:03
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lsekio/15:03
gansoo/15:04
tbarron#link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Manila/Meetings15:04
tbarronoh, sec15:04
tbarroncourtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel lseki carloss15:04
* tbarron waits a couple15:04
amitohey :)15:04
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bswartz.o/15:05
* bswartz rushes in out of breath15:05
tbarronbswartz: me too :)15:05
tbarronok, we've got 10 people or so,15:05
tbarronHi all!15:05
tbarronif you update the agenda pls. ping me so I reload :)15:06
tbarron#topic Announcments15:06
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tbarron#link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html15:06
tbarronNext week is our RC1 target, focus is on testing so we don't15:06
tbarronhave to do multiple release candidates15:07
tbarronI'll remind everyone that we are in String and Requirements freeze15:07
tbarronand also feature freeze of course15:07
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tbarronSo lets identify any must-have bugs and put reviews for them on the review focus etherpad15:08
tbarron(it's own topic later)15:08
tbarronDiscussion or comments on RC1 target and our work?15:08
tbarronOK,15:09
tbarrontomorrow I need to submit our Forum topic submissions15:09
tbarronusing this etherpad as a source:15:09
tbarron#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-shanghai-forum-brainstorming15:09
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tbarronNo one has updated it except me and noggin14315:10
tbarronThanks noggin143 :)15:10
tbarronSo this is your last chance.15:10
gouthamror else :)15:10
tbarronI'll remind that the Forum sessions are useful even if you can't be there for helping shape future directions.15:11
tbarrongouthamr: damn straight!15:11
tbarronAny other announcements?15:11
gouthamr"U and V goals for Manila" - is a good catchall topic to discuss plans with operators; Manila CSI is great for awareness and feedback15:11
gouthamrcan't think of any better to speak to deployers/operators/users about15:12
tbarron#topic tempest 3rd party CI15:12
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tbarron#link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Manila/TrainCycle&action=edit&section=1215:13
tbarronerr15:14
tbarron#link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Manila/TrainCycle#Python3_Testing15:14
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tbarronThis is a standing item - anybody have anything new to report?15:15
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bswartzPy3 specifically?15:15
tbarronamito: you're a manager now :) can you rally some resources to get infinidat CI working with python3?15:15
bswartzOr better testing in general?15:15
tbarronbswartz: well that is our concrete goal for this topic15:16
amitotbarron: is it still not working with py3? I asked the guys working on it and they said they did the conversion...15:16
amitotbarron: I'll check again15:16
tbarronamito: maybe it is, please update (or have them update) the wiki if it is15:16
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amitotbarron: no problem, I'll make sure it happens15:16
tbarronamito++ ty!15:17
tbarronAnything else on this one?  If not, we'll return to it next week.15:17
tbarron#topic Cross Project Goals15:17
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tbarronPDF docs15:18
tbarron#link  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008570.html15:18
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tbarronwe got manila, manila-ui, and python-manilclient done15:18
tbarronneed to get manila-tempest-tests and manila-specs at lest still15:18
tbarronleast15:18
tbarronThey shouldn't be too hard if you look at the other patches with topic: build-pdf-docs15:20
tbarronThe other Cross Project Goal for Train is testing with pure IPv6 devstack as15:21
tbarrondiscussed here:15:21
tbarron#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200547715:21
tbarrongman has put up a review that is making good progress:15:21
tbarronhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/682716/15:22
gouthamr^ needs a fix on the tempest side15:22
tbarrontempest needs to install oslo with py3?15:23
tbarrondevstack?15:23
gouthamryeah, i dunno how it works elsewhere15:23
gouthamrthe script bails early and doesn't do the verification intended - but, the job's configured properly, and the service endpoints are all IPv615:24
tbarronwell probably gman0 will get back to us on that ...15:25
tbarronIt's moving along, thanks for your review.15:25
gouthamrtbarron: gmann15:25
tbarrongmannnn15:26
tbarronsorry15:26
tbarron#topic Review Focus15:26
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tbarronEtherpad15:26
tbarronis here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-train-review-focus15:26
tbarronI've started to update it with reviews for bug fixes or test changes that we want to land prior to RC115:27
tbarronWhich -- again -- is next week.15:27
dviroelack15:27
tbarronI make no claim it's complete, so add stuff as appropriate.15:28
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676475/15:29
tbarron^^ share networks subnets tests15:29
tbarronhas a -1 from zuul but is being rechecked15:30
dviroeltbarron: yes, dummy has reported that 2 tests are failing,  we are working on this to reproduce them and do the fix15:30
dviroeltbarron: should not take too long to upload a new PS15:30
tbarrondviroel: good, thanks, feel free to ping me when that's ready15:30
dviroeltbarron: ok, thanks15:31
gouthamrdviroel: container driver job's failed the same tests15:31
dviroelgouthamr: I will take a look on this too, ty15:31
tbarronhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/677573/ looks like it's ready ?15:31
tbarronthat one does replication tests with DHSS=True15:31
dviroeltbarron: yes15:32
tbarrondviroel: k, thanks.15:32
tbarronand then the dummy driver tests just got workflowed I see15:33
dviroel=)15:33
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677576/15:33
gouthamryeah that'll need a recheck if dviroel uploads a new PS to the subnets change15:33
dviroelgouthamr: ack15:34
gouthamrbut we can w+1 the replication change too, they'll merge together if we +1 the subnets change15:34
tbarronDo we have any more tests/bugs pertaining to the share networks and replication work?15:34
dviroelHum, will wait for gouthamr review the latest PS on subnets, it may or may not need new tests15:35
tbarronNo15:35
tbarronkk15:35
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tbarrondviroel: thanks, just update the etherpad and ping if we have more15:36
dviroeltbarron: ok, ty15:36
tbarronI *think* we caught up on tests for the share-type update work so I don't have anything there on the review focus etherpad.15:36
tbarronI do have there a UI fix15:37
tbarronwhich isn't strictly for RC1 since we already released manila-ui15:37
dviroeltbarron: we also have the pagination fix that carloss is working on.15:37
tbarronbut it looks like a good bug-fix and we can cut another release15:37
tbarronbut it depends on a horizon fix that hasn't merged yet, so we'll see15:38
tbarrondviroel: ah yes,15:38
carlossdviroel: probably I'll have a PS soon with the changes15:38
dviroelcarloss: ok, thanks15:39
carlossresolved most comments but needed to stop to investigate the py37 issue15:39
tbarroncarloss: ok, you know what I'm gonna say, put it in the etherpad and ping when it's ready for review again if you want it before rc-115:39
carlossgood, ty tbarron15:39
tbarronit's not a release blocker, so better to get it in first15:39
tbarronotherwise we wait for U and consider backport15:40
tbarronAny other rc-1 considerations?15:40
tbarron#topic Bugs15:40
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tbarronjgrosso: What do you have for us?15:41
jgrossoHey all15:41
jgrossoi have some cleanup stuff :)15:41
jgrossohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/160715015:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1607150 in Manila "Tempest test for dr/readable replication fails because share has two active replicas" [Medium,New] - Assigned to NidhiMittalHada (nidhimittal19)15:41
jgrossogouthamr did you log this while at netapp?15:42
jgrossoand then it transferred to another person :)15:42
tbarronWe should probably unassign this one?  I don't think Niddi is working on Manila these days.15:42
* gouthamr looks15:42
tbarronNiddhi15:42
tbarrons/dd/d/ :)15:42
jgrosso:)15:43
gouthamrhmmm, have we seen this one occur lately?15:43
bswartzNo nidhi in this channel or manila channel15:43
gouthamri haven't, but i know we didn't address the problem either15:43
bswartzHas she been around lately?15:43
tbarronbswartz: I don't think so15:43
jgrossoshould I lower the priortity and unassign?>15:44
tbarronjgrosso: let's ask the people who support backends that do replication15:44
jgrossotbarron ack15:44
gouthamrjgrosso: yes, and perhaps dviroel/carloss can take a look15:44
jgrossook15:44
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tbarronit's annoying if this causes CI to fail, but may not be likely in the field ?15:45
carlossI haven't seen it happening but we can take a look15:45
gouthamrtbarron: yeah, tests are crazy15:45
carlossgouthamr: haha15:45
jgrossojust a general question on the following bug15:46
jgrossohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/180796915:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1807969 in Manila "[maniila image elements] custom image job fails to test the new image" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Tom Barron (tpb)15:46
jgrossois this fixed released?15:46
tbarronyes15:46
jgrossothanks tbarron15:46
jgrossoone other question15:47
jgrossoI noticed some docs are logged a medium and some are low15:47
jgrossodo we have a way to determine what is high or low for docs?15:48
jgrossosorry med or low15:48
tbarronjgrosso: we probably have many considerations, not some simple rule though.15:48
tbarronJust as for non-doc bugs :)15:48
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jgrossotbarron thanks15:49
gouthamrgood q, we should probably think about this one15:49
tbarronAnd as for non-doc bugs, it may be that too many are marked too high.15:49
jgrossoI just noticed there are alot of doc bugs15:49
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jgrossotbarron ack15:50
jgrossolast clean up bug15:50
jgrossohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/181643015:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1816430 in Manila "intermittent generic back end extend/shrink share failures" [Medium,Triaged]15:50
tbarronWe could have High doc bugs if we are telling people something just wrong and we know they are being led down very dangerous paths.15:50
jgrossohmm tbarron great point15:50
tbarronhmm, I reppored this oen and said it was Medium :)15:51
jgrosso:) sorry forgot to ask for milestone :)15:51
tbarronbut I haven't seen it recently.15:51
jgrossoI know they are intermittent so not easy to put a milestone15:52
jgrossook I can leave without a milestone :)15:52
tbarronWell it's more that no one is paid to work on the generic driver :)15:52
jgrosso:) makes sense15:52
tbarronso unless we can reproduce it in a straightforward way ...15:53
jgrossothanks tbarron for grabbing the new bugs that came in the last week and responding :)15:53
jgrossotbarron ack15:53
jgrossothat is all I have for bugs today !15:53
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tbarronjgrosso: I'll bump priority on that to low and say something asking others to add to this bug if they hit it15:54
tbarron#topic Open Discussion15:54
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jgrossotbarron thanks!15:54
tbarronbswartz: here's where we could discuss 3rd party CI more generally or other stuff :)15:55
tbarronI didn't mean to cut you off on that earlier topic ...15:55
bswartzNo I was just curious if we had other shortcomings related to 3rd party CI15:55
bswartzSuch as test coverage issues15:55
bswartzBecause that would be something I'd care about15:56
tbarronWell I'm not confident that 3rd party CIs run and pass regularly, quality varies.15:57
tbarronWe keep saying we'll make a report card but in my time as PTL I haven't made that happen :(15:58
bswartzYeah no doubt quality varies across vendors. I'm hoping that NetApp is among the best15:58
dviroelbswartz: ++15:59
carlossbswartz: ++15:59
tbarronNot until the replication tests are running regularly and passing :)(15:59
tbarron:)15:59
tbarronJust messing with you.16:00
dviroel=|16:00
tbarronok, see you on #openstack-manila16:00
tbarronThanks everyone!16:00
tbarron#endmeeting16:00
dviroelty16:00
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