Tuesday, 2019-10-08

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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct  8 09:00:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:00
priteau#topic Roll call09:00
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priteau\o09:00
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masahitoo/09:01
priteauHi masahito09:01
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tetsuroo/09:02
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priteauHi tetsuro and bertys09:02
priteauAgenda for today:09:03
priteauPTG and virtual PTG09:03
priteauTrain release09:03
priteauCode review priorities09:03
priteauAOB09:03
priteau#topic PTG and virtual PTG09:03
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priteauYou should all have received an invitation for the virtual PTG on October 3109:04
priteauPlease let me know if that isn't the case09:04
priteauI will circulate the meeting information on the list, in case others want to join.09:06
priteau#action Share virtual PTG meeting info09:06
priteauFor the PTG itself, the schedule is now finalized and Blazar is on it :-)09:06
priteau#link https://www.openstack.org/PTG09:06
priteauAll of Friday, November 809:07
priteauSo we have one month to prepare material for Project Onboarding09:08
priteauAny thoughts about what we should include in this session?09:09
priteauExamples of slides from onboarding sessions in Denver:09:11
priteauManila: https://object-storage-ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.net/swift/v1/6e4619c416ff4bd19e1c087f27a43eea/www-assets-prod/summits/26/presentations/23618/slides/ManilaProjectOnboarding.pdf09:11
priteauNova: https://tinyurl.com/DEN-train-nova-onboarding09:11
priteauHeat: https://goo.gl/eZ3bbH09:12
priteauKolla: https://object-storage-ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.net/swift/v1/6e4619c416ff4bd19e1c087f27a43eea/www-assets-prod/summits/26/presentations/23651/slides/Kolla-Project-Onboarding-Train.pdf09:12
tetsuroI remember hiro-kobayashi has given the onboarding session in Vancouver09:12
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priteauI didn't remember we did a project onboarding session!09:13
priteauSlides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vOYlFuIK4NX7C73xT-JQkkRdsPzjG1BMq_bXCMKvEe4/edit#slide=id.p09:13
priteauI'll copy these slides and update. I think we should also add the following:09:14
priteau* view of the various repos09:14
priteau(blazar, blazar-nova, python-blazarclient, etc.)09:14
priteau* layout of the blazar repo (api code, db code, manager, plugins, etc.)09:14
priteau* how to install with devstac, how to run tempest09:15
priteau* extend the demo to show floating IP reservation?09:15
priteauAnything else?09:16
priteauLooks like most onboarding sessions in Denver were 40 minutes long09:18
priteauNow that this is part of the PTG, we don't have a fixed timeslot.09:18
priteauI'll start with these changes if you're OK with it.09:19
tetsuroSure.09:20
priteau#action Create Project Onboarding slides based on Vancouver material09:20
priteauAlso I was away most of next week so I didn't do my action on project update09:20
priteau#action Create Project Update slides based on Denver material09:20
priteauI don't remember if I've shared this info: Jacob Colleran (Jake) should be available all of Friday for Blazar technical discussion09:22
priteauI mean Friday, November 8. In Shanghai.09:22
bertysGood to hear. Looking forward to meeting him in Shanghai09:23
priteauNext topic09:23
priteau#topic Train release09:23
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priteauThis week is final RC09:23
priteauJake has been testing RC1 on Chameleon. He reported one issue and provided a patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686844/09:24
priteauHe said he got this error just by running tox. Somehow I cannot reproduce it.09:24
tetsuroYeah, I was curious why some patches have passed the gate without this change.09:26
priteauThere must be something related to the environment09:26
priteauAnyway, I think we should backport and produce RC2?09:27
bertysblazar.conf by default now (using devstack) without this plugin?09:27
bertyse.g. https://openstack.fortnebula.com:13808/v1/AUTH_e8fd161dc34c421a979a9e6421f823e9/zuul_opendev_logs_24c/686844/3/check/blazar-devstack-dsvm-py35/24cb45a/logs/etc/blazar/blazar.conf.txt.gz09:28
priteauthis plugin is the default in the code, so if you don't have a blazar.conf, blazar-manager will load it09:28
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priteauBut when I try running blazar-manager in my local env without blazar.conf, it fails on lack of connection URL anyway09:29
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priteaubertys: I don't think it was in devstack that he saw the issue, but while running unit tests09:31
priteauI guess I need to create a release note as well to document what changed between RC1 and RC209:32
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priteauI will propose it this week and ping you for reviews ;-)09:34
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priteau#topic Code review priorities09:34
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priteauSame as last week:09:35
priteauDevStack cleanup: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683099/09:35
priteauAsmita's patch using microversion: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655838/09:36
priteauThanks tetsuro for the reviews09:36
priteauAnd Jake's spec for network reservation: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674089/09:36
priteauAnything else to highlight?09:37
priteau#topic AOB09:40
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priteauAnything else to share?09:40
priteauNothing from me09:43
tetsuroNothing09:43
priteauThanks for joining, have a good week!09:44
priteau#endmeeting09:45
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Oct  8 09:45:56 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:45
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-08-09.00.html09:46
masahitoThanks09:46
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-08-09.00.txt09:46
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-08-09.00.log.html09:46
tetsurothanks!09:49
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cmurphy#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct  8 16:00:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'16:00
vishakhao/16:00
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cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda16:01
bnemeco/16:01
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cmurphyhey everyone16:04
cmurphy#topic New roadmap platform16:04
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cmurphy#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/keystone-ussuri-roadmap/kanban16:04
cmurphy#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/009942.html16:05
cmurphysince we reached our limit with trello i started a new board on the platform that kmalloc discovered, so far i like it a lot16:05
lbragstad++ happy to be on an open platform16:05
gagehugonice16:06
cmurphyit should be publicly visible but to add team members i need emails, i didn't necessarily want to assume everyone wants to use the one they use for gerrit/lp/mailing list so haven't added everyone yet16:06
vishakha++16:06
cmurphyso send me emails so i can invite you and assign yourselves to the things you're already working on16:06
cmurphyand feel free to move things around and edit things16:06
cmurphyalso if anyone wants admin rights to play around with it i can make that happen16:07
cmurphyand let me know how you like it and if you want to change it16:07
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lbragstadi haven't played with it extensively, but it looks promising so far16:09
bnemecI used it very briefly with tripleo ci, but mostly I think I was just annoyed by having yet another platform to track things on. :-)16:10
bnemecSince you're dropping trello that won't be a problem.16:10
lbragstaddo other openstack projects use tiaga?16:11
cmurphynot that i'm aware of16:12
cmurphyi experimented with storyboard too but ran into issues (and filed a bug report)16:13
lbragstadnice16:13
cmurphythe experience with taiga has been really smooth16:13
vishakhacmurphy: Should I also email you the things to add on tiaga ?16:13
bnemecI only know of https://tree.taiga.io/project/tripleo-ci-board/timeline16:14
cmurphyvishakha: just send me the email address you want me to use to invite you16:14
vishakhacmurphy: okay16:14
cmurphyeveryone who was on the old trello board should also be on the new taiga board16:14
lbragstadcmurphy is the plan to have a new board for each release?16:15
lbragstadusing the same format/process we had with trello?16:15
cmurphylbragstad: that's how i laid it out for now, but there's also an option to enable "sprints" so in theory we could keep the same board and have each cycle be a "sprint"16:16
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cmurphythat felt a little clunkier when i was playing with it though16:16
cmurphybut definitely an option16:16
lbragstadnice16:17
* lbragstad wonders if milestones could be sprints16:17
cmurphywe could do that too16:17
lbragstadthat's an interesting way to organize work, i'm not sure if trello has that concept16:18
cmurphynot natively afaik, it has due dates and there's probably plugins to enable something like it16:18
lbragstadyeah, true16:19
lbragstadbut... money...16:19
cmurphylol yeah16:19
cmurphywe could talk about this during our cycle planning at the ptg if we want16:21
lbragstadsounds good16:21
cmurphyany other questions or concerns?16:23
cmurphy#topic PTG(s)16:25
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cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-shanghai-ptg16:25
cmurphyno one's given me any feedback on the timing or agenda so i'm considering it more or less finalish16:26
cmurphyi realized there was only a list of names of people who could/could not attend the real ptg so i started a new list for people planning on attending the virtual ones16:27
cmurphyso please add your name so i know how many people think they will make it16:27
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cmurphythat's all i had to say about it, anyone else have thoughts on it?16:29
cmurphy#topic review requests16:31
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cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686828/16:31
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682266/16:31
lbragstado/16:31
cmurphyo/16:31
lbragstadi tried overhauling the rbac docs we had16:32
lbragstadspecifically for operators16:32
lbragstadmy goal with that patch is to allow operators to fully understand what they get out of the box with rbac in keystone16:32
lbragstadi think there is more stuff to do and i'd like to generate a list of executable APIs per role+scope persona, but i don't think i'll have that done for a while16:33
lbragstadi'm hoping we can backport that doc to stable/train that way operators have something to go on when they consume that release16:34
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lbragstadsince we fully support it in keysotne16:34
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cmurphythat's awesome, will take a look16:34
lbragstadthanks - the other is just test cleanup that's finally passing16:35
cmurphyi think you linked the wrong one16:36
cmurphy682266 is merged16:36
lbragstadfixed - sorry16:36
lbragstad#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686297/16:36
cmurphywill have another look at that16:37
lbragstadthanks16:38
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/67758516:38
cmurphystill need reviews for access rules in ksc so we can add it to osc and horizon16:38
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676648/16:40
cmurphyoh i guess i'm on the hook for that one16:40
lbragstadi'll take a look at the ksc patches16:40
lbragstadi was going to do that and it slipped16:41
cmurphyty16:41
lbragstadyep - thanks for the ksa reviews16:41
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/68630616:42
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/68630516:42
lbragstadi looked at those but i wasn't sure if they were ready for feedback, yet?16:42
cmurphyi had started a conversation with gmann and put up some ideas on how we could bring rbac testing to tempest16:42
cmurphylbragstad: ready for feedback on the general idea and organization at least16:43
lbragstadok16:43
lbragstadcool16:43
vishakhaNice16:43
cmurphywould be great if the team had a look and we can discuss it more at the ptgs and the forum session16:44
cmurphyand this is an easy one https://review.opendev.org/68709616:45
cmurphyanyone else have reviews to highlight?16:45
bnemecTIL that keystone.openstack.org is a thing.16:47
vishakhashould I drop the patch for keystone tempest plugin pdf patch? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685026/16:47
cmurphyvishakha: imo we don't need it16:47
vishakhacmurphy: ok. Is it fine to have pdf for  ldappol and pycadf?16:48
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cmurphybnemec: same with nova.openstack.org etc ;)16:50
cmurphyvishakha: hmm so we do publish docs for pycadf https://docs.openstack.org/pycadf/latest/16:50
cmurphybut they seem to be developer-focused16:50
cmurphynot really useful to users16:50
cmurphyldappool we don't publish and i think those docs are also developer-focused16:51
cmurphybnemec: do you see any value in producing pdfs for pycadf?16:51
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bnemecUnless the docs have a user-focused section I'd say no.16:52
* bnemec has been largely ignoring the pdf goal16:52
bnemecI can't remember if that's because it doesn't apply to Oslo libs or if I just assumed Stephen would take care of it. :-)16:52
cmurphylol16:53
cmurphythe feedback from akihiro on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685026/ is that it's not really needed for most libs16:53
cmurphyi think keystoneauth and keystonemiddleware are user/operator-facing enough that it's worthwhile for them but i don't think the same applies to our other libraries16:54
bnemecAgreed.16:54
vishakhacmurphy: okay.  Agreed it will be useless to have pdfs for the other libraries16:55
bnemecI suppose if someone were trying to consume pycadf auditing info in a disconnected env they might want docs for it.16:55
cmurphyone way to look at it is that the point of the goal was for packagers and distros to be able to generate pdfs for their own documentation, if a distro asks why pycadf doesn't have pdfs then we can address it at that point16:56
cmurphyvishakha: thanks for working on them and helping us get it clarified :)16:57
vishakhacmurphy: yw :)16:58
cmurphy#topic open floor16:58
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cmurphytwo minutes left if anyone wants to bring anything else up16:58
cmurphyokay thanks everyone17:00
cmurphy#endmeeting17:00
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lbragstadthanks all17:00
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