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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 15 09:00:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic Roll call | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
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| priteau | Good morning bertys | 09:01 |
| bertys | o/ | 09:01 |
| bertys | Hi all | 09:01 |
| priteau | Let's wait for others to join | 09:01 |
| bertys | okay | 09:01 |
| priteau | tetsuro: Hi, are you around? | 09:02 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 09:03 |
| priteau | Hi tetsuro | 09:03 |
| priteau | Looks like masahito is offline | 09:03 |
| priteau | Agenda for today: | 09:04 |
| priteau | * Train release | 09:04 |
| priteau | * PTG activities (Update and Onboarding) | 09:04 |
| priteau | * Code review priorities | 09:05 |
| priteau | * AOB | 09:05 |
| priteau | #topic Train release | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Train release (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:05 | |
| priteau | Blazar RC1s will be tagged as final releases for Train: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/687991/ | 09:06 |
| priteau | We haven't merged the abstract method backport, maybe for a later bugfix release. I still haven't figured out how to replicate it... | 09:07 |
| priteau | Thanks to all who participated in making this release. | 09:08 |
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| priteau | Now it's time to focus on Ussuri | 09:09 |
| priteau | #topic PTG activities (Update and Onboarding) | 09:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG activities (Update and Onboarding) (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:10 | |
| priteau | I've created new files from the latest slides | 09:11 |
| priteau | Update: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1S5ieqf5N2_DGbHBy0M3Q7ur1OtChFeUDy1SZdBTwf_s/edit?usp=sharing | 09:12 |
| priteau | Sorry, that's Onboarding | 09:12 |
| priteau | Project Update: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1giKTi2t0Zchjkm72I-SZNPeyEM_gNzkb13vMFf60kbc/edit?usp=sharing | 09:12 |
| priteau | You should have edit access via your Gmail accounts | 09:13 |
| priteau | They were shared with Masahito with his NTT address, I will update | 09:13 |
| priteau | OK, I shared the whole folder with his new work address | 09:15 |
| tetsuro | I have edit access, thanks! | 09:16 |
| priteau | I haven't started updating content yet, feel free to do so if you have time this week. | 09:17 |
| priteau | How do you envision splitting the presentations? | 09:17 |
| priteau | Onboarding is generally 40 minutes (but we don't have a fixed time slot so it can be as long or as short as we see fit) | 09:19 |
| priteau | , Update is 20 minutes | 09:19 |
| priteau | Sorry, 15 minutes even | 09:20 |
| priteau | https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24373/blazar-project-update-november-2019 | 09:20 |
| tetsuro | I think beyond Stein slide should be just after the Stein new feature | 09:20 |
| tetsuro | s/stein/train | 09:20 |
| tetsuro | i.e. page 3 should be after how does blazar work section | 09:21 |
| priteau | I moved the slide | 09:21 |
| bertys | do we want to keep advertising instance reservation or focus on network reservation this time (how does blazar work section)? | 09:22 |
| tetsuro | and if 3 people talk, we can divide it (what is blazar + how it works) / (Train feature + Beyond Train) / (Cross project + How to give feedback) | 09:23 |
| tetsuro | bertys: having network reservation sounds a good idea | 09:23 |
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| priteau | bertys: You mean floating IP reservation? As network (segment) reservation is still in spec state. | 09:24 |
| tetsuro | or dividing it to 3 as 1. What is blazar + Train feature + Beyond Train / 2. How it works + cross project / 3. How to give feedback | 09:26 |
| bertys | priteau: yes, I can start editing this section this week | 09:26 |
| priteau | Thanks bertys | 09:26 |
| tetsuro | 1. What is blazar + Train feature + Beyond Train / 2. How it works / 3. cross project + How to give feedback may be better if we consider each volume size | 09:27 |
| priteau | tetsuro: I'll let you decide what's best. With Project Update being only 15 minutes, if we want to keep time for questions as well, if we have 3 speakers we have to make sure to change quickly between each | 09:27 |
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| tetsuro | I remember bertys added and explained how it works section, and we can go the same way as well, no? | 09:30 |
| priteau | Sure | 09:31 |
| priteau | I'll do a pass for updating both slide decks this week | 09:31 |
| tetsuro | i.e. 1. masa, 2. bertys, 3. tetsuro | 09:31 |
| bertys | works for me | 09:31 |
| tetsuro | thanks! | 09:32 |
| priteau | For Project Onboarding, it could be split this way: | 09:33 |
| priteau | 1. Intro, how does it work | 09:33 |
| priteau | 2. Use cases, Future plans, community | 09:33 |
| priteau | 3. Demo | 09:33 |
| priteau | Based on other onboarding slides I've seen, I will add information about repos we use | 09:34 |
| priteau | Any other comment on slides? | 09:36 |
| priteau | #topic Code review priorities | 09:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code review priorities (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:37 | |
| priteau | Same priorities as last week, plus a new bugfix patch from Chameleon | 09:38 |
| priteau | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688214/ | 09:38 |
| priteau | However it failed devstack checks | 09:38 |
| priteau | I couldn't find the error in the logs so I requested a recheck | 09:38 |
| priteau | If Zuul tests pass, please review | 09:39 |
| priteau | Potential backport to Train as well. I'll request a release note. | 09:39 |
| priteau | Reminder of other priorities: | 09:41 |
| priteau | DevStack cleanup: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683099/ | 09:41 |
| priteau | Asmita's patch using microversion: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655838/ | 09:41 |
| priteau | Jake's spec for network reservation: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674089/ | 09:41 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:41 | |
| priteau | Anything else to share this week? | 09:42 |
| tetsuro | Nothing from me. | 09:43 |
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| bertys | Same here. Thanks priteau and tetsuro | 09:43 |
| priteau | OK, thanks for joining today | 09:43 |
| priteau | Have a great rest of the week | 09:43 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 09:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 09:43:55 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-15-09.00.html | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-15-09.00.txt | 09:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-15-09.00.log.html | 09:44 |
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| cmurphy | #startmeeting keystone | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 15 16:00:34 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:00 |
| vishakha | o/ | 16:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda | 16:00 |
| cmurphy | i didn't prepare much due to meeting just before this | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:04 |
| cmurphy | #topic PTG reminder | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG reminder (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:05 | |
| cmurphy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-shanghai-ptg PTG agenda | 16:05 |
| cmurphy | reminder that we'll be doing our pre-PTG virtual meeting in two weeks | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | and please add your name to the etherpad if you plan on attending | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | #topic python2 | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "python2 (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:08 | |
| cmurphy | so I think starting this release we're allowed to drop python2 support | 16:09 |
| cmurphy | was wondering if the team has any thoughts on continuing to test python2 versus dropping those tests? | 16:09 |
| gagehugo | iirc kmalloc expressed great joy in ripping out the six library | 16:10 |
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| gagehugo | I'm up for dropping py2 support | 16:12 |
| cmurphy | personally i would prefer not to spend effort refactoring existing code that's currently working when we have so many other things to do | 16:12 |
| cmurphy | but i'm okay with dropping the zuul jobs | 16:12 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:13 |
| gagehugo | sure | 16:13 |
| vishakha | Yeah this can take our time to solve many errors by dropping py2 | 16:14 |
| bnemec | Note that this probably needs to be coordinated with the other projects. | 16:15 |
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| cmurphy | that was my next thought | 16:15 |
| bnemec | If Keystone breaks py2, even accidentally, while the other projects are still gating on it the world will be on fire. | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | good point | 16:16 |
| bnemec | I know there was some discussion in the tc meeting last week about coordinating this. | 16:16 |
| cmurphy | i think there was chatter in the tc channel about coordinating this but i'm not sure where it landed | 16:16 |
| cmurphy | yeah | 16:16 |
| bnemec | I can't remember if I saw that email afterward. | 16:16 |
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| cmurphy | I see one from stephen about nova but not a general one | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | I'll clarify with the tc about whether there's a coordinated plan | 16:18 |
| bnemec | Oh look, there's an etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/drop-python2-support | 16:18 |
| cmurphy | oh and there's a meeting planned | 16:19 |
| bnemec | Yeah, so probably need to wait until that is sorted before doing anything drastic. | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | agreed | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | thanks for finding that | 16:20 |
| bnemec | np | 16:21 |
| bnemec | Hehe, the same discussion is going on in #openstack-meeting | 16:21 |
| cmurphy | lol | 16:22 |
| cmurphy | well i think that's settled for now so moving on | 16:22 |
| cmurphy | #topic review requests | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review requests (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:22 | |
| cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/687753 drop project.id foreign keys | 16:22 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685260/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685402/ | 16:22 |
| vishakha | Small one | 16:23 |
| cmurphy | #link https://review.opendev.org/687756 reverts sql-only resource driver | 16:23 |
| cmurphy | wanted to bring those up to see if there were any concerns with the migration | 16:23 |
| lbragstad | so - we're going back to using other backends for domains and projects? | 16:24 |
| cmurphy | to being able/allowed to | 16:25 |
| cmurphy | how do you feel about that? | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | traditionally - we've moved to only allowing identity information to come from other backends | 16:25 |
| lbragstad | and we pushed everything else to sql | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | how have we done that? | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | all of the drivers are pluggable | 16:26 |
| cmurphy | except the resource driver | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | i think we did it by deprecating everything but the sql driver and leaving things pluggable | 16:27 |
| lbragstad | (e.g., giving people only one supported option upstream) | 16:27 |
| cmurphy | this isn't adding a new upstream driver, it's just re-allowing it to be pluggable | 16:28 |
| lbragstad | don't the FKs give us performance improvements? | 16:29 |
| cmurphy | how so? i don't think we do any kind of joins on them | 16:30 |
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| lbragstad | i'm can't remember the reason for introducing the foreign key | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | i can't* | 16:32 |
| cmurphy | https://review.opendev.org/409874 | 16:32 |
| cmurphy | i think it was just for db-level enforcement of existence | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | hmm | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | according to your commit message we check that constraint before we get to the database, anyway? | 16:34 |
| cmurphy | right | 16:34 |
| lbragstad | is someone asking for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/687756/2 ? | 16:36 |
| cmurphy | no, it's just something that's bothered me for a long time and something i had as an action item from the last ptg | 16:36 |
| lbragstad | ah | 16:36 |
| cmurphy | and as far as i can tell it seems to be an easy fix, but i could be missing something | 16:37 |
| cmurphy | like i think this should work fine with rolling upgrades but maybe it's more complicated than i imagine | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | i wish i could dust off discussions david and ron had when they were working on this | 16:38 |
| cmurphy | heh yeah | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | from a rolling upgrade perspective, we're being less restrictive, right? | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | keystone should always guarantee that a user maps to a domain | 16:39 |
| cmurphy | right, and also the manager code isn't changing and enforces the behavior we want to i think it's safe to make the db more permissive during the contract part of the upgrade | 16:39 |
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| lbragstad | so the migration doesn't technically have to do anything but remove the key | 16:40 |
| cmurphy | right | 16:40 |
| * lbragstad nods | 16:40 | |
| cmurphy | it's not terribly urgent so i can leave this up for a while if people want to mull it over | 16:41 |
| lbragstad | i wish i could remember if there was a pre-determined reason for that key | 16:41 |
| * lbragstad will think on it | 16:42 | |
| cmurphy | cool | 16:42 |
| cmurphy | any other review requests? | 16:42 |
| cmurphy | #topic open floor | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:45 | |
| cmurphy | anything else to discuss? | 16:45 |
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| cmurphy | okay thanks everyone | 16:47 |
| cmurphy | no office hour today | 16:47 |
| cmurphy | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 16:47:43 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | thanks all o/ | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-10-15-16.00.html | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-10-15-16.00.txt | 16:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-10-15-16.00.log.html | 16:47 |
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