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| gouthamr_ | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 24 15:00:45 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| lseki | \o/ | 15:00 |
| carloss | hey :) | 15:01 |
| gouthamr_ | wow, would have helped if i changed my nick before starting :P | 15:01 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:01 |
| jgrosso | hello | 15:01 |
| bswartz | Make me a chair and then rename yourself | 15:01 |
| gouthamr_ | courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel tbarron | 15:01 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr_ | #chair bswartz | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bswartz gouthamr_ | 15:01 |
| ganso | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr_ | #chair tbarron | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bswartz gouthamr_ tbarron | 15:01 |
| *** gouthamr_ is now known as gouthamr | 15:01 | |
| bswartz | #chair gouthamr | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bswartz gouthamr gouthamr_ tbarron | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | yay :) thanks bswartz | 15:01 |
| tbarron | ni | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | Thank you for joining, looks like we have our usual suspects here, as bswartz would say - let's begin | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | Meeting agenda: | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| gouthamr | nothing standing out this week, but, we're less than two weeks away to the Shanghai PTG (which we'll discuss a little bit about) | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | and about 30 weeks away from the Ussuri release, per | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html Ussuri Release Schedule | 15:04 |
| bswartz | I have announcement | 15:04 |
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| gouthamr | bswartz: go for it.. | 15:05 |
| bswartz | I've had 3 jobs since I stepped down as Manila PTL, and my newest job (starting this week) will take me further away from OpenStack | 15:05 |
| bswartz | NetApp is still very committed to OpenStack, but I'm going to stop attending these meetings | 15:05 |
| dviroel | =( | 15:05 |
| carloss | :( | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | sigh :( | 15:05 |
| lseki | ); | 15:05 |
| bswartz | I have too many new responsibilities to keep up my already minimal participation | 15:06 |
| tbarron | it better be a good one :( | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I'll be on IRC still and reachable for discussions | 15:06 |
| bswartz | My actual membership in the OpenStack foundation must have lapsed like a year ago since I have no commits to my name in a very long time | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: understandable... thank you so much for being available for this long though your focus changed a while ago | 15:07 |
| tbarron | Yes, I don't mean to be graceless :) Thanks for everything bswartz. | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: and ofcourse, we're going to need you! you're on my IRC speed-dial | 15:07 |
| bswartz | It's probably a good idea to revoke my core reviewer status. If my input is required in the future on patches, I'm happy to give +1/-1 reviews | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I'm very happy to see the project continue to be successful without much help from me | 15:08 |
| bswartz | tbarron and gouthamr you have both done a great job keeping the project going strong | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | :) are you going to be at KubeCon? | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | And I have faith that our NetApp devleopment team will continue to help drive forward the project goals | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | Well I have a ticket to kubecon, by my airfare is trapped in finance hell | 15:10 |
| bswartz | So fingers crossed, yes I will be a kubecon | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | oh, cross country drive not an option? | 15:10 |
| bswartz | Hehehe | 15:10 |
| bswartz | It's mostly the company reorg that's causing budget issues | 15:11 |
| bswartz | NetApp like most companies reorganizes fairly regularly | 15:11 |
| bswartz | Anyways that's all I have | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | I'm immensely pleased to see Manila continue to be successful | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | word only suggests negative stuff to me, although it's supposed to help with the company's growth and sustenance and all that | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | but, change's good we believe | 15:12 |
| tbarron | most companies reorg about the time you get the last one figured out | 15:12 |
| tbarron | and rename products | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | haha, true - recalls a colleague who stopped printing business cards | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | cool, bswartz - i do have a request - i'd like to take you off the core team post PTG | 15:14 |
| bswartz | Yeah please do | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | ofcourse, if my colleagues on the core team (including yourself) agree to this ^ | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | i have some proposals for core team expansion coming - but, we're working through them | 15:15 |
| * gouthamr turns and smiles at some cool contributors we have, stepping up to fill these roles | 15:15 | |
| gouthamr | any other announcements? | 15:16 |
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| gouthamr | #topic Release from stable/queens | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release from stable/queens (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:16 | |
| gouthamr | #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010161.html ML discussion on stable/queens going EM | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | alright, a few of us have been busy proposing backports and tagging candidate bugs that we'd like to get fixed in this branch | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | thank you for your efforts - the deadline for this transition is this week | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | although, not all projects are ready, including ours at the moment | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | we have a backport request from Dell EMC for their Unity driver | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1845135 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1845135 in Manila "Failed to enable ipv6 mgmt IP for Unity manila driver (queens)" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to DingDong (dingdino) | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | it's significant in the sense that, the driver has support for IPv6 in the queens release, but fails to start up | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | the bugfix is now in stable/stein and needs to be in stable/rocky and then stable/queens | 15:20 |
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| gouthamr | the owner's in China it appears, which adds to this lag to get this fixed... | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | so, we'll try to get this in, before we tag the final release | 15:20 |
| tbarron | shall i go on and do the next cherry-pick? | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | are there any concerns with this? | 15:20 |
| tbarron | no, let's just get it done IMO | 15:21 |
| * gouthamr correction... | 15:21 | |
| tbarron | ? | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | the owner's in China, and submits fixes during their daytime - most of our reviewers are asleep then, so can't give him quick feedback - that's the lag :) | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | China causes no lag :) | 15:22 |
| tbarron | :) | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | which reminds us, constantly that we need some reviewers in these timezones | 15:22 |
| dviroel | ++ | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | anyway, thank you tbarron - if you'd like to propose the backport, i'm okay with it | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | it is a simple change, ofcourse the tests and release notes are bigger | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | they version their driver, so on these older branches, they are bumping up the minor version | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | for this bugfix | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | that's all about this topic - thanks for reviewing tbarron dviroel | 15:24 |
| dviroel | yw | 15:25 |
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| gouthamr | #topic Python manilaclient breakage | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python manilaclient breakage (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:25 | |
| gouthamr | this has been a painful one | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | the breakage in the python-manilaclient gate can be seen here: | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686142/ (no-code-change patch) | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | the initial bug with this was worked around via tempest | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | we use tempest as a library here, and not as a "service" installed via devstack | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | so, the tempest team posted a workaround for a breakage in the underlying tooling (testtools, unittest) | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | and proposed a release | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | but, we hit this bug: | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849377 (share networks tests bug) | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1849377 in python-manilaclient "Share network create and update test is failing" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Carlos Eduardo (silvacarlose) | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | carloss has a fix up: | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/690411/ (fix for LP 1849377) | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | however, the tests are still failing | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | these functional tests on the client are a lot different from the unit tests and tempest tests that we run elsewhere | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | there appear to be no useful logs | 15:29 |
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| gouthamr | the failures are all skips, which leads me to believe the tempest workaround (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847749) didn't work entirely for us | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1847749 in tempest "Tempest tests fail with skip exception for stestr > 2.5.0 due to teststool #issue 272 " [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Ghanshyam Mann (ghanshyammann) | 15:31 |
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| gouthamr | bringing this up here to check if anyone has cycles to investigate this failure | 15:32 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: I may have some time to help on this, since I'm not going to Shanghai.. | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: nice, thank you for volunteering | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: i'll open a bug on LP and call your attention to it after this meeting | 15:33 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: ok | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | alright alright alright | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | #topic: Ussuri PTG | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Ussuri PTG (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:34 | |
| gouthamr | our in-person PTG is scheduled for 6th November 2019, Wednesday | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | it's between 9:00 AM and 4:30 PM local time (Shanghai) | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://object-storage-ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.net/swift/v1/6e4619c416ff4bd19e1c087f27a43eea/www-assets-prod/Uploads/PTG-Shanghai2019-Map-Schedule.pdf (Map and Schedule for the Ussuri PTG in Shanghai) | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | as mentioned in previous weeks, tbarron will be driving this gathering, and i'm working with him on the scheduling | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | for the most part, the meeting will not suffice, because many of our contributors aren't going to be in Shanghai | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | so, yesterday i posted a poll to the mailing list asking for a feasible date for a remote-only PTG | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://xoyondo.com/dp/qQbsoHtNhi4DCki Remote-only PTG Poll | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | if you haven't already, please take this poll ^ | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | feel free to not put your real name if you like :) | 15:38 |
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| * gouthamr looks like a bunch of us missed that opportunity | 15:38 | |
| dviroel | maybe next time =) | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | #link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010332.html (Mailing List post for the remote PTG) | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | that said, we have a bunch of topics already added here: | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-shanghai-ptg-planning PTG Planning Etherpad | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | if you'd like to discuss anything, please add your topic/s at the bottom of the etherpad | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | also, if you see any topic without a lead, please feel free to claim it - i'd appreciate spreading the responsibility around | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | you know i talk a lot | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | that's all i had regarding this - please note, if you're in shanghai that there's a team photo | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/lnupu1sx6ljl | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | tbarron signed us up for 11:50-12:00, local time on Thursday, 7th Nov | 15:42 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: ty for reminding | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | be there in your best attire and say zorilla | 15:42 |
| tbarron | no photos Wednesday or we would have just done it during a manila ptg session break | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | we should have some folks from other projects join us there: i know we'll have some who work on tripleo, ceph | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | feel free to invite more friends of manila | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | anything else regarding this $topic? | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | #topic: Add Horizon folks to manila-ui-core? (tbarron) | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Add Horizon folks to manila-ui-core? (tbarron) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:44 | |
| gouthamr | you're up, tbarron | 15:44 |
| tbarron | I just wanted to call attention to the question that the Horizon folks asked: | 15:45 |
| tbarron | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010303.html | 15:45 |
| jgrosso | People use Horizon? | 15:45 |
| jgrosso | :) | 15:45 |
| tbarron | where they are suggesting adding some horizon folks to each plugin | 15:45 |
| tbarron | since teams typically don't have django expertise and | 15:46 |
| tbarron | may not be up-to-date on all the initiatives coming in horizon itself | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | ack, +1 | 15:47 |
| tbarron | gouthamr will probably decide on this but it seemed worth seeing if anyone has objections to this idea. | 15:47 |
| tbarron | I don't, I like it. | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | personally, i'm sometimes clueless each time i see some refactor patch come through | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | i rely a lot on horizon cores' input | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | which is why, bswartz added them to manila-ui a long time ago | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/manila-ui,access (who has access to manila-ui) | 15:48 |
| tbarron | :) | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | so we're one of the few plugins that already allow horizon cores to +2/+W patches | 15:49 |
| tbarron | so we should just reply with endorsement | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | ack, +1 tbarron | 15:49 |
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| carloss | +1 tbarron | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | since they referenced meeting notes, i'll say - e0ne, amotoki, vishalmanchanda and many other horizon contributors have been incredibly helpful in helping us maintain our plugin | 15:50 |
| amotoki | as my hat of horizon, manila team is very responsible on reviews in manila-uicompared to other teams. much appreciated. I believe we can collaborate well so far and in future. | 15:50 |
| tbarron | perfect | 15:50 |
| tbarron | amotoki: thanks, and thanks for all your help | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | amotoki: +1, thank you! | 15:50 |
| dviroel | amotoki: ty | 15:50 |
| amotoki | you all too | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | thanks for bringing it up tbarron | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | anything else? | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | we're going to skip over our regularly scheduled "Bugs with jgrosso" programming for this week | 15:52 |
| jgrosso | :) | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | we have a few we're working on, and jgrosso hasn't seen any pop up that need our attention | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | #topic: Open Discussion | 15:53 |
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| gouthamr | #link: https://www.space.com/quantum-computer-milestone-supremacy.html | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | anyone going to investigate adding manila plugin there? | 15:54 |
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| tbarron | :) | 15:54 |
| tbarron | yes and no, you'll have to check to find which | 15:55 |
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| gouthamr | which backend? | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | generic ofcourse! | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | okay, if there's nothing else, heartiest Diwali greetings to those celebrating the festival of lights this week | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | thank you for joining | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | Thanks! | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:56:47 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-10-24-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-10-24-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-10-24-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 24 16:00:05 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 16:00 |
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| priteau | #topic Roll call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 16:00 | |
| jakecoll | hello | 16:02 |
| priteau | Hi jakecoll | 16:02 |
| priteau | Meeting agenda: | 16:03 |
| priteau | PTG Team Photos | 16:03 |
| priteau | PTG meeting preparation | 16:03 |
| priteau | AOB | 16:03 |
| priteau | #topic PTG Team Photos | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Team Photos (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 16:04 | |
| priteau | At every PTG the Foundation takes pictures of the team | 16:04 |
| priteau | The Blazar team is scheduled to be taken at 11:40-11:50 on Friday, November 8 | 16:05 |
| jakecoll | sounds good | 16:05 |
| priteau | As a contributor you're welcome to join them | 16:05 |
| jakecoll | Will do | 16:05 |
| priteau | I think we had someone from Heat on the picture one year | 16:05 |
| priteau | #topic PTG meeting preparation | 16:06 |
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| priteau | Thanks for adding content to the Etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-ptg-ussuri | 16:06 |
| priteau | At least I assume it was you? | 16:06 |
| jakecoll | Yea, it was me | 16:07 |
| jakecoll | added some of the things we didn't get through and some refactoring to maintenance | 16:07 |
| priteau | I am curious about the Refactor api/rpc/service calls item, I don't think it has come up before | 16:07 |
| priteau | Is it to make it more object oriented? | 16:07 |
| jakecoll | I think this convention of plugin.list_plugin creates a lot of redundant code | 16:07 |
| priteau | Removing redundant code sounds like a good idea :) | 16:08 |
| priteau | I am adding more items around allocations | 16:09 |
| priteau | Do you think you would be able to revisit your calendar implementation with the optimized database queries? | 16:10 |
| priteau | That would allow us to identify other potential blockers early in the cycle. | 16:11 |
| jakecoll | depends on timeline. We're going to prioritize upgrading to Train. Then that should be on my table | 16:11 |
| priteau | Fair enough. | 16:12 |
| priteau | So probably not before the PTG meeting, but maybe by end of year? | 16:12 |
| priteau | (calendar year) | 16:12 |
| jakecoll | Yea, that should be more than doable | 16:12 |
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| priteau | I will look in previous Etherpads for other ideas that are still relevant | 16:14 |
| priteau | This looks like a good priority list for now | 16:15 |
| priteau | Anything else to mention? | 16:16 |
| jakecoll | I don't think so. No real big feature ideas on our end | 16:17 |
| priteau | At some point we were thinking about some kind of meta-scheduler to manage multi-site reservations. Is this still on the agenda? | 16:18 |
| jakecoll | oh right, that was your brainchild | 16:18 |
| jakecoll | We would really like that | 16:18 |
| jakecoll | We trying to move to a federated user login | 16:19 |
| jakecoll | oh wait, I was think of your policy-based usage enforcement | 16:20 |
| jakecoll | What is the advantage of the meta-scheduler for multiple sites? | 16:20 |
| priteau | Yeah, the meta-reservations thing are from past discussions I had with Kate. | 16:21 |
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| jakecoll | I haven't heard her or jason mention it | 16:21 |
| priteau | Well, it was something to allow a user to say "I want a meta reservation for X compute at UC and Y storage at TACC and a VLAN linking both" | 16:21 |
| priteau | It was just at the idea stage. | 16:22 |
| priteau | Anyway, good reminder about usage enforcement. I will add it to the list | 16:22 |
| jakecoll | Yea, we might be able to help with that if we go down the road of migrating off TAS | 16:22 |
| jakecoll | Meta-scheduler sounds like a lot of work to give users a few less clicks. Not sure it would be high priority on our end. | 16:24 |
| priteau | OK | 16:24 |
| jakecoll | It also sounds very specific to chameleon's setup | 16:25 |
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| priteau | #topic AOB | 16:25 |
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| priteau | Nothing special from me to share this week | 16:25 |
| jakecoll | Nor I | 16:26 |
| priteau | Enjoy the PTG then! | 16:26 |
| priteau | Have a safe trip. | 16:26 |
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| jakecoll | Thanks! | 16:26 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 16:27:00 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-24-16.00.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2019/blazar.2019-10-24-16.00.txt | 16:27 |
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