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tbarron#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 16 15:01:48 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
lsekihi15:01
dviroelhi15:01
carlosshey! :)15:02
andrebeltramihi15:02
tbarronmanila courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel lseki carloss tbarron15:02
vharihey :)15:02
carthacaHi15:02
maaritammHi :)15:02
tbarronHi all!15:03
tbarronLooks like we've got a pretty good group, let's get started.15:03
tbarronAgenda:15:03
tbarron#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:03
amitohello15:04
tbarronif you update it, ping me so I'll refresh :)15:04
tbarron#topic Announcements15:04
amitoOn another meeting but will try to be here as well15:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)"15:04
tbarronamito: kk15:04
tbarronI have one announcement.15:04
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tbarrongouthamr is on a plane back to Seattle so manila and this meeting will15:05
tbarronbe back on their regularly scheduled channel real soon now!15:05
vhari(y)15:05
tbarronEverybody better quit slacking off now!15:06
tbarronAnyone else have announcments?15:06
tbarron#topic Tracking our Work15:07
*** openstack changes topic to "Tracking our Work (Meeting topic: manila)"15:07
tbarronFirst, just a reminder about Ussuri schedule15:07
tbarron#link https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html15:08
tbarronmilesone 2 is about one month  from now.15:08
tbarronThat's also our Spec Freeze.15:08
tbarronWe have two pending specs.15:09
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692330/15:09
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700776/15:09
tbarronIf you haven't read them yet, please do and record your support or concerns.15:10
tbarronPlease review whether you are a "core" or not, the reviews add value and if you have interest in15:10
tbarronbecoming a core they give you a track record.15:11
vkmco/15:11
tbarronAny discussion of these specs?15:11
tbarronvkmc: \o15:11
dviroeldon't think so15:12
tbarronOK, I've made a list of reviews that need attention, leaving out stuff that is failing CI, etc.15:12
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692079/15:12
tbarronsince gouthamr is on hiw way back I thought we'd let him look this one over before we workflow it, but15:13
tbarronit has two +2s15:13
tbarronIf anyone wants to learn how to add async user messages, or is curious about what these are, it's15:14
tbarrona good patch to look at.15:14
tbarronsmall and to the point.15:14
tbarronso don't let the votes already there put you off :)15:15
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697957/15:15
tbarrondviroel and I both think this one looks OK but it's a pretty important, structural change.15:16
dviroeltbarron: thanks for testing this one!15:16
tbarronMore critical eyes on this one would be great.15:16
tbarrondviroel: yw15:16
dviroeltbarron: yes, lets wait a couple more before merge this one15:17
tbarronwe'll merge this in the next week if no objections come up15:17
tbarrondviroel +115:17
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702639/15:17
tbarroncarthaca!!15:18
tbarronwant to tell us about this one?15:18
tbarronand welcome back.15:18
carthacaI'm just the messenger ;)15:18
carthacawe really had problems with performance of share list, so my colleagues had a deep dive15:19
tbarroncarthaca: how many shares do you folks list when you list shares in your manila deployment?15:20
carthacaour biggest installation has 4k shares15:21
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dviroel=O15:21
tbarroncarthaca: would you repeat that please?15:22
tbarron:)15:22
carthacaand our resource mgmt service polls that list quite often15:22
tbarronseriously, kee talking :)15:22
carloss:o15:22
tbarroncarloss: in particular, were you able to quantify the speedup?15:22
carthacaand to make that worse, we have a big customer that put his 1000 shares all in one keystone project15:23
carlossyes, tbarron... that change was mainly related to pagination operations15:23
carthacaso our customer himself is listing a lot, too15:23
carlossand it was tested under 1000 shares15:24
tbarroncarloss: yes, and thank you for that, but I meant to ask carthaca this question :)15:24
tbarrontab completion error, though it happened to get someone who also made a performance fix15:24
dviroelkkk15:25
carlosshaha15:25
tbarroncarloss will be a good person to review this change from carthaca15:25
tbarroncarthaca: are you able to quantify the speedup with this change?15:26
carthacaI'm just searching for the numbers15:27
carthacawe have them15:27
carlosssurely, tbarron15:27
tbarroncarthaca: cool.  I gave my positive vote because everything functions OK with the tests and logically the change makes sense.15:27
tbarroncarthaca: but if you can add that info to the corresponding launchpad bug that would be great.15:28
tbarronI guess we can make similar changes to  other queries if this one "pans out,"15:28
carthacabut it looks like it is a bit mixed with database tunings oO what I found is that we went from about 20 sec for listing 1000 shares down to 5 seconds15:29
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701340/15:29
tbarroncarthaca: the marketing people call that a 400% improvement!15:30
tbarronnot too shabby in any case15:30
tbarroneven if an engineer might say 75%15:31
carthacaif I were in marketing I would show the worstcase queries from before, that took 11 minutes :D15:31
tbarroncarthaca: well worst case is important15:31
tbarronlegitimately15:31
tbarronok, folks, please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701340/15:32
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tbarronI *think* it's OK, so please take that as a challenge to prove me wrong.15:32
tbarronAny questions/discussion of this one?15:33
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700833/15:33
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tbarronlast week we looked at this one and I asked ganso to take a look because these ssh connections from15:34
tbarrontempest itself are used a lot in areas where he worked15:34
tbarronhe remarked that the fix looks correct but that15:34
tbarron "other issues are blocking the CI tests so we cannot validate it at this moment"15:35
tbarronMy thinking was that the logs show that connections that used to have to fall back to password15:35
tbarronauthentication are now showing key authentication success, and that we don't have to wait to fix all15:36
tbarronthe other issues to fix this one.15:36
tbarronBut I wanted to see what others think on this.15:36
tbarronPlease chime in with your thoughts now, or later in the review.15:36
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tbarronOK, I guess no one is thinking right now.  When you do, please comment in the review.15:37
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/647538/15:38
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tbarronWe talked about this one last week but didn't succeed in getting any new reviews.15:38
tbarronI'll just say that just because it's vkmc's patch doesn't mean we want to wait to merge this in Victoria!15:38
carlosshahaha15:39
dviroellol15:39
tbarronLet's review and merge early enough in Ussuri that we can get some soak time on this!15:39
* tbarron was waiting all week to say that15:39
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698848/15:40
tbarronmaaritamm: I'm about to add my positive vote on this one, just want to try it out a little bit more.15:40
tbarronBut the client is not my area of expertise (I know, please don't ask what is)15:41
maaritammtbarron, cool, thanks! :)15:41
tbarronvkmc: lseki thanks for reviewing it, please just look at the latest patch set15:41
lsekiI will :-)15:42
tbarronthen we have the next, more significant one from maaritamm which adds osc support for share types15:42
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701229/15:42
tbarronmaaritamm: I'll pull that one in and use it in my devstack next15:43
tbarronall - let's aim to get that one reviewed, modified as required, and merged this next week.15:43
tbarronmaaritamm: you are making good progress, please keep it up!15:43
tbarronAny other reviews we need to cover?15:44
maaritammtbarron, thanks :)15:44
tbarronok15:44
tbarron#topic Bugs15:44
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tbarronThe first thing to note is that although I'm going to "call on"15:45
tbarronvhari15:45
tbarronshe has not assumed the role formerly held by15:45
vharitbarron, thanks have a couple of bugs to float out there15:45
tbarronthe former bug-Czar-for-life jgrosso15:45
tbarronshe's filling in for now but next week we need to talk about rotating duty or some such.15:46
tbarronvhari: take it away, and thanks.15:46
vharitbarron, glad to carry the torch in the meantime :)15:46
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/185054515:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1850545 in Manila "Manila allows the creation of unlimited share replicas" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Carlos Eduardo (silvacarlose)15:46
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vharican we get  a read on the suggestion/ approach?15:48
carlosswe have agreed to write a lite-spec for the fix of this bug. I've already started working on it15:48
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tbarronvhari likely wants to fill in the bug Importance and Milestone Target15:49
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tbarronand carloss thanks in advance for fixing this!15:49
carlossi intend to propose a patch with the lite-spec in the next few weeks15:49
carlossyou're welcome tbarron15:49
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vharitbarron, yes, I can add carloss's update ...15:50
tbarronwould you say Medium?  Milestone 3 for Ussuri?15:50
carlossI think is a medium15:50
dviroelI think that is Medium also15:50
carlossI think milestone 3 is ok15:51
dviroelcarloss++15:51
tbarroncool, ty15:51
vharicool, thanks all.. any more comment on this one?15:51
vharik, moving on to next one15:52
carlossnot from my side, tbarron15:52
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/181309515:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1813095 in Manila "SQLAlchemy error when Generic driver fails to provision a share server" [Medium,New]15:52
tbarronvhari: so this is a generic driver issue15:54
tbarronno one is paid to work on that driver and to my knowledge15:54
tbarronsomeone correct me if I'm wrong15:54
tbarronno one is using it in production15:54
tbarronbut we use it to good effect in our CI15:54
tbarronso, the  question is about importance15:55
vharitbarron, ack, should we  keep it as Med for now?15:55
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tbarrongouthamr marked it Medium but if he were here we'd ask him15:55
* vhari taking note 15:55
tbarrondoes it impact the tests in our CI?15:55
tbarronif so, then that importance is justified15:56
tbarronif not, I'd argue for downgrading it15:56
tbarronsince even though it may be an easy fix and is tagged as low hanging fruit15:56
tbarronno one has picked it up15:56
vharitbarron, k15:57
tbarronOthers may have other opinions, and I'm in *no way* trying to discouraage anyone from grabbing the low hanging fruit bug and doing a fix.15:57
vharithat's a wrap for bugs today.. thanks tbarron15:57
tbarronok, we have 2.5 min for15:57
tbarron#topic open-discussioon15:57
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tbarron#topic open-discussion15:57
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tbarronfor the record15:57
tbarronspell it right15:58
tbarronOK, thanks everyone, let's go to #openstack-manila.  See you next week here!15:58
dviroelthanks15:58
carlossTHanks tbarron15:58
tbarron#endmeeting15:58
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