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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  6 15:01:04 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
carlosshi :)15:01
dviroelo/15:01
lsekio/15:01
andrebeltramio/15:01
gouthamrcourtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso vkmc amito jgrosso tbarron15:01
vkmco/15:01
vharihi all :)15:01
tbarronhi15:01
carthacahi15:01
gouthamrhello o/15:02
maaritammo/15:02
gouthamrgood, we have quorum..15:03
gouthamrour agenda looks short today:15:03
gouthamr#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:03
gouthamrLet's get rolling15:03
vkmc<gouthamr> our agenda looks short today: <- last famous words15:03
gouthamrhaha :D15:03
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)"15:03
gouthamrsticky reminder to the Ussuri schedule, which, all of you imo are following diligently15:04
gouthamr#link: https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html (Ussuri schedule)15:04
gouthamrnext week is our new driver and specification freeze15:05
gouthamrwe'll talk about pending ones in a bit, but this is your reminder that any new specs must be submitted before next week15:05
gouthamrnext, ty dviroel for taking our discussion from the last meeting to the OpenStack discuss ML15:06
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012365.html (ML post on third party CIs)15:06
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dviroelgouthamr yw15:07
gouthamrthere are some AIs there for vendor driver maintainers, if you're one of them, please pay attention - we'll check back likely during M-315:07
gouthamrthat's all the new stories i had; anyone else got anything?15:08
gouthamr#topic Tracking our work15:08
*** openstack changes topic to "Tracking our work (Meeting topic: manila)"15:08
tbarrondviroel++15:09
gouthamrwe're making good progress with the specs, we have two unmerged specs:15:09
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700776/ (Update Create Share from Snapshot in Another Pool)15:09
dviroel^ new PS sent today15:10
dviroelWe are almost there I think15:10
gouthamrah, nice - i think my concerns are addressed with your latest PS15:10
dviroelgouthamr yes15:11
gouthamrlets watch out for reviews from the rest of us, and look to close on this15:11
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704793/ (Add lite spec to fix unlimited share replicas per share)15:12
gouthamryou folks are early risers15:12
gouthamrthere's a new patchset for this lite-spec too, please take a look15:13
gouthamrthis is the first time we're doing one of these "lite" specs, ty carloss15:13
dviroelcarloss++15:13
carlossmy pleasure :)15:13
gouthamrcool.. Reviews needing attention:15:14
gouthamrCan we backport these to Train? (mnaser/tbarron)15:14
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:manila/generic-improvements+(status:open+OR+status:merged)15:14
mnaseri think we should but im biased15:15
mnaser:P15:15
mnaserIMHO the changes are relatively small and localized, and help make me and users avoid running a fork to be able to use generic driver with no neutron-*-agent running15:15
mnaserand the tests are there too15:15
tbarroni'm inclined to see these as fixes/improvements rather than "new feature" but admit it's a grey area15:16
tbarronand I want to avoid forks15:16
gouthamr+115:17
gouthamr#link https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html (Stable branch policies)15:17
gouthamrmnaser: Train is the final destination for these15:17
gouthamr?15:17
gouthamralthough we tweaked the definition of the stable branches a while ago, and they no longer make a distinction between the last release and previous releases15:18
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gouthamrit's less risky for us to backport this to train than earlier versions, knowing that distributors are still actively following Train15:19
gouthamrand may not be tracking other branches as much, going by my limited knowledge of distros (i work for one)15:19
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gouthamrs/tracking/tracking, syncing, packaging, testing/g15:20
gouthamr...15:22
gouthamrokay, if there don't seem to be any objections here, please propose the backports and we'll take comments/concerns to review15:22
dviroel+115:23
gouthamr#link: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/owner:tamm.maari%2540gmail.com+status:open15:23
gouthamrmaaritamm: it looks like you need to rebase some of these15:24
gouthamrty for adding stuff to the osc repository15:24
* gouthamr adds it to review backlog15:24
maaritammyeap, will rebase15:25
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gouthamrty maaritamm, and for those that are actively reviewing these15:25
maaritamm:)15:26
vkmc++15:26
dviroelty maaritamm15:26
lsekity maaritamm15:27
gouthamrrest of you, please take some time to review these, there's a ton to do for OSC parity with our client - and maaritamm could use some feedback and motivation :D15:27
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701340/15:27
gouthamr^ solves an interesting problem for u15:28
gouthamrus*15:28
gouthamrit removes test classes from showing up as "skipped" when they don't make sense at all15:29
gouthamrfor example, tests that attempt running GlusterFS specific tests against the ZFSOnLinux driver15:29
gouthamrbecause of this refactor, we can now not have those tests show up in the test listing as well15:30
gouthamrit probably helps folks looking to certify manila backends - they can no longer worry about some types of skipped tests15:31
gouthamrso, ^ needs your reviews - please do so early, would like this to merge soon as well, so we can cut a new release for manila-tempest-plugin at M-215:32
gouthamrany other reviews that we should talk about here?15:33
gouthamr#topic Bugs (vhari)15:33
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gouthamr#link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad)15:34
* gouthamr paging vhari 15:34
vharigouthamr, ty15:34
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/186026415:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1860264 in Manila "Unitest failing with python 3.8" [Undecided,New]15:35
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vharithis one's new to triage15:36
gouthamrack ty vhari15:36
* gouthamr checks something real quick15:37
gouthamrso, we have `openstack-tox-py38` running against manila on the master branch for weeks now15:38
gouthamrhttps://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_2dd/706084/1/check/openstack-tox-py38/2dd0467/testr_results.html15:38
gouthamrall the hacking unit tests did pass on our CI15:39
gouthamrso am confused15:39
vhariinteresting!15:39
gouthamrlet me respond to this bug, and ask for a traceback15:40
gouthamralso haven't run py38 tests myself, i can take a look at this after this meeting15:40
vhariack (y)15:40
gouthamrand i'll set the flags necessary if we're able to reproduce the failure locally15:40
gouthamri'm*15:41
vharinext on the list, waiting for info .. could use some traction15:41
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/183818915:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1838189 in Manila "DevStack (./stack.sh) can not found test-requirement.txt dir" [Undecided,New]15:41
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gouthamrhmmm, we asked the reporter a couple of questions15:42
gouthamrlet's mark this one Incomplete15:42
tbarron+115:42
carloss +115:42
vhari+115:42
vharicool .. moving on15:43
vharinext 2 are to be reviewed as possible dups15:44
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/163131415:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1631314 in Manila "Tempest tests "test_promote_out_of_sync_share_replica" and "test_resync_share_replica" are concurrency-prone" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Douglas Viroel (dviroel)15:44
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/160715015:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1607150 in Manila "Tempest test for dr/readable replication fails because share has two active replicas" [Medium,New]15:44
gouthamrboth are results of racy operations, but they aren't duplicates15:45
vharik15:45
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gouthamrthe latter can occur for a minute duration if users query the manila API while database transitions are happening - the bug proposes two ways to mitigate this15:47
gouthamrwe need to find an owner to investigate15:47
gouthamrdviroel: any status on the first one?15:47
dviroelgouthamr not yet, the proposed solution will take extra effort15:48
gouthamrcool, don't see a reason to rush this - these aren't user reported issues, but would be nice to have them fixed15:49
vharicool, any more thoughts on this one?15:50
gouthamrit's highly unlikely that we'll hit these in production, and be negatively affected - i.e., a resource is already in the state you expect to put it in by the time you've pulled the trigger15:50
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gouthamranything else, vhari?15:51
vharithat's a wrap for this week :)15:52
gouthamrvhari: awesome, thank you15:52
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:52
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gouthamrlooks like we can take some time back :)15:53
gouthamrthank you all for joining, see you again next week15:53
dviroelthks!15:53
carlossthanks15:53
gouthamr#endmeeting15:53
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