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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 20 15:00:47 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:00 |
| lseki | o/ | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso vkmc amito jgrosso carloss | 15:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| maaritamm | o/ | 15:01 |
| carloss | hey :) | 15:01 |
| vhari | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | hello \o/ | 15:01 |
| andrebeltrami | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | Let's get started, we've what i see to be a short agenda today: | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | First off | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| * gouthamr ..exciting.. | 15:02 | |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012677.html (OpenStack Discuss ML post/proposal) | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | i know many of you have already looked and responded, thank you for that | 15:03 |
| amito | o/ | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | you're all kind to give me a rather quick turnaround :) | 15:03 |
| tbarron | I think we're just excited by the proposal :) | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | so lets not let this linger on the ML any longer... we don't have responses from 3 core reviewers (and we'll get to that in just a minute) | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | i'd like to formally welcome vkmc and carloss to the maintainers team, thank you for everything you do for this project | 15:05 |
| lseki | 🎉 | 15:05 |
| tbarron | +1000 | 15:05 |
| dviroel | carlos++ | 15:05 |
| dviroel | vkmc:++ | 15:06 |
| carloss | thanks! :) | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | i hope you continue to mentor and grow this community, it's your problem now on the paper | 15:06 |
| vkmc | <3 thanks folks, you are so great, hope to be able to fulfill expectations | 15:07 |
| vhari | +1000 (y) | 15:07 |
| vkmc | gouthamr, always, it's so exciting to be able to bring talented people like maaritamm to our team | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | great, i'll throw around some zen for the occasion: | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | "Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water." | 15:07 |
| vkmc | you are an amazing team for them to give their first steps | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | that makes /me very happy - that was our stated goal around here! | 15:08 |
| vkmc | zorilla high five o/ | 15:08 |
| vhari | \o/ | 15:08 |
| carloss | o/ | 15:08 |
| amito | o/ | 15:08 |
| tbarron | o/ | 15:08 |
| * gouthamr notes that vkmc looked up how many digits gorillas have on their limbs | 15:08 | |
| vkmc | hahah yes I did that | 15:08 |
| tbarron | I prefer a zorilla limb lift to a tail lift. | 15:09 |
| tbarron | But we have our defenses if needed. | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | i'll be in touch with you vkmc and carloss and give you an overview of do's and don'ts - you're probably familiar with 99% of them | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | that's all i had in terms of new announcements | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | We *just* completed Milestone-2 | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html (Ussuri Release Schedule) | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | please keep your work items in sync with the release schedule | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | any body got anything else? | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | alright .. | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | #topic Core team removals | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Core team removals (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:12 | |
| gouthamr | we have a few inactive cores that have expressed to be removed or haven't responded to my request to re-confirm their involvement | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | i'd like to discuss removing them, with your approval | 15:13 |
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| gouthamr | bswartz and zhongjun have been focussed on other things for a while | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | bswartz expressed to us that he'd no longer have time to review changes actively, and would like to be taken off | 15:14 |
| * gouthamr doesn't want to be blamed - it's been a while, and thought bswartz'd change his mind | 15:14 | |
| gouthamr | :P | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | i'd like to thank both of them for their immense contribution to manila, and tell them they can return to their role whenever | 15:15 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:15 |
| dviroel | +1 | 15:16 |
| carloss | +1 | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | #chair tbarron | 15:16 |
| openstack | Current chairs: gouthamr tbarron | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | my network is acting up a bit, just in case ^ | 15:16 |
| vkmc | +1 | 15:17 |
| vhari | +1 | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | cool, ty - i'll take them off the list | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | i'd like to reiterate what i said in the ML posts regarding the maintainers | 15:18 |
| * tbarron prepares to mix things up ... | 15:18 | |
| gouthamr | If you're interested in helping us maintain Manila by being part of | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | the manila core maintainer team, please reach out to me or any of the | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | current maintainers, we would love to work with you and help you grow | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | into that role! | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | moving on.. | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | #topic Tracking our work | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tracking our work (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:19 | |
| gouthamr | we're past M-2, all specifications have been merged at this point | 15:19 |
| dviroel | \o/ | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | i'd just like us to look at some reviews | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701108/ (Add uuid for tests) | 15:20 |
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| gouthamr | ^ this patch conforms manila-tempest-tests to a guideline from the tempest project | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | i'd like some more eyes on this... | 15:21 |
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| gouthamr | when this change merges, we need to be aware that every test must have a unique UUID | 15:21 |
| tbarron | So we'd need to generate a uuid and add a decorator line for each test case? | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | yes | 15:23 |
| tbarron | each *new* test case | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | yes, and i believe there is some tooling to do this automatically | 15:23 |
| tbarron | maybe we can get liron to document that | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:24 |
| tbarron | the tooling or whatever the new requirement would be | 15:24 |
| vkmc | maybe there is something already done, I'm aware this (uuids) is being used by main tempest so there should be something we can re utilize | 15:25 |
| tbarron | to me if that's the burden in order to conform to align with the other tempest plugins and core tempest it doesn't seem too burdensome | 15:25 |
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| tbarron | s/to conform to align/to align/ | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | sure, the benefit seems to be for those that want to use our tempest tests | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | as certification/validation against releases | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | and different installations of manila | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | i think we can make check_uuids run as a gerrit hook, and do the work for us - if that's not what some script somewhere does | 15:27 |
| tbarron | I'd argue that there is some benefit to manila just in aligning and not being a one-off. It's like driving on the same side of the road as others even though by | 15:27 |
| tbarron | itself there may not be a compelling reason to switch sides. | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | sure ty, please review this, and share your concerns on the change.. | 15:28 |
| tbarron | Though some might argue for a policy of "Manila Exceptionalism" :) | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | not exceptionalism, but, we haven't taken everything that's come our way for good reasons that it doesn't conform to the direction of the project | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | this one may not be one of those - i just wish there was a test somewhere that'd fail when requirements are hoisted upon test plugins | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | nevertheless, we're glad someone wants to fill this gap! | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707577/ (Add functional tests for OSC) | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | ^ speaking of testing - maaritamm has been busy | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | this is a good patch to get in as we continue to add more OSC coverage - please take the time to review this one | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688227/ ([Unity] Manage/unmanage share server/share/snap) | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | ^ this (and the next couple of patches) have been around for a bit | 15:33 |
| dviroel | their CI is passing now | 15:33 |
| tbarron | maaritamm: thanks for adding those functional tests! | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | dviroel carloss - you're in the best place to review this since you implemented the feature, along with your driver impl | 15:34 |
| dviroel | but without enabling manage/unmanage tests | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: oh, please ask for those to be run.. | 15:34 |
| carloss | yep... will take a look on it soon | 15:34 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: remember asking this before... | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: it's alright if they want to run them manually and post the results on the patch - sometimes special casing in CIs to handle unmerged changes may be hard.. | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: ack - pl note that with a -1 then; i'll follow up | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/687108/ (Add api-ref for share network subnets) | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697111/ (Update admin guide for share network subnets change) | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | ^ Doc changes - easy reviews :) | 15:36 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: ack | 15:36 |
| carloss | yep | 15:36 |
| carloss | there is one more, I think | 15:36 |
| carloss | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bug/1843953 | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | ah, didn't see that ty carloss | 15:37 |
| carloss | yw :) | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688412/ (Add user guide for share network subnets) | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | that's all the reviews i wanted attention on - anyone else got any? | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | okay, let's move on to our next segment | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | #topic Bugs (vhari) | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:38 | |
| vhari | o/ | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | Czarina is a thing, no? | 15:39 |
| vhari | :D | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | Tsarina or tsaritsa is the title of a female autocratic ruler of Bulgaria, Serbia or Russia. | 15:39 |
| vhari | well if you're ready, gotta few ones for ya'll :) | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | lol :) sorry vhari | 15:40 |
| vhari | haha | 15:40 |
| tbarron | or US | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad) | 15:40 |
| vhari | me no rule but nag | 15:40 |
| tbarron | definition is out of date | 15:40 |
| vhari | so here goes 1st one | 15:40 |
| vhari | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1863298 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1863298 in Manila "manila manage OverQuota - no good way out" [Undecided,New] | 15:40 |
| vhari | new one - needs a bit of tlc attention | 15:41 |
| tbarron | carthacs is trapped ^^^ | 15:41 |
| tbarron | carthaca | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | option (C) is a samuel colt invention | 15:42 |
| dviroel | he suggests check the quota earlier, but we use the share size got from back end | 15:42 |
| dviroel | another exceptions could change the share to a manage_error state. | 15:43 |
| carthaca | yep, that is the hard part | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | we could allow the quota to go over... | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | and log it, rather than raise an exception | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | this would prevent any new creation | 15:44 |
| carthaca | what just comes to my mind.. maybe I should unmanage as the opposite of manage and not delete? | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | carthaca: yes, the safe way to recover from this situation would be to reset-state and unmanage | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | you may not *need* to reset state too | 15:47 |
| dviroel | should we consider a different deletion for manage_error shares? | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | yes, that can work too - drivers probably a chance to rollback | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | let's not evolve the solution here, but, let's look for an owner and have them propose solutions that we can discuss | 15:50 |
| dviroel | like rolling back the share renamed on the back end | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: whatever they change on the original share | 15:50 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: yes | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: might be harder to implement, we got to work through it | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | is anyone interested to take a look? | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | *crickets* | 15:52 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: o/ | 15:52 |
| * vhari assigns bug to crickets | 15:52 | |
| gouthamr | dviroel: ty | 15:52 |
| vhari | :) | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | dviroel would probably like cricket | 15:52 |
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| vhari | ^^ done | 15:53 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: maybe, looks fun | 15:53 |
| dviroel | =) | 15:53 |
| carthaca | dviroel: thx | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: please toggle the buttons, and assign a target milestone, i'll follow up | 15:53 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: ack | 15:53 |
| dviroel | carthaca: yw | 15:54 |
| vhari | gouthamr, guess we're almost out of time so moar bugs next time | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | thanks for reporting this carthaca, sorry you had to go through the pain | 15:54 |
| vhari | ty all | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | vhari: ack, thank you! | 15:54 |
| vhari | yw | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:54 | |
| gouthamr | alright everyone, thank you for participating | 15:55 |
| carloss | thanks gouthamr | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | see you on #openstack-manila | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 20 15:56:17 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-02-20-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-02-20-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-02-20-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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